Brandon Jennings thinks he is better then "overhyped" Ricky Rubio.

[url]http://www.interbasket.net/news/2009/06/12/brandon-jennings-thinks-hes-better-than-overhyped-ricky-rubio/[/url]

well, tonight he sorta proved it.

[QUOTE=FULL CLIP]well, tonight he sorta proved it.[/QUOTE]
It was proven a while ago.

[QUOTE=FULL CLIP]well, tonight he sorta proved it.[/QUOTE]

Tony Delk once had a 53 point game. :rolleyes:

I'm not saying Jennings doesn't have a chance to become a fantastic Iverson-like scorer in the NBA, but already it's clear that he's not the [i]point guard[/i] that Rubio is. Jennings has been launching bombs pretty much with his eyes closed and his conscience turned off lately, and they're all going in.

It'll be interesting to see how long it lasts. As is widely known, Jennings has a HUGE ego and so far Skiles has pretty much pumped more hot air into his head by letting the kid to what he wants on the court. Anyone who thinks that will continue all season is a fool.

i hope his head stays with him..
he needs to remain cool and let things come to him

the article and story are old - back in june....



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People are caring about who's better than who too much. Whatever happened to just a team winning? Which is what the Bucks are doing. They're 5-2. Congratulations to Brandon Jennings. He's averaging 25PPG 7 games into the NBA and had a 50+ point game. Congratulations Jennings, you've done everything!

[QUOTE=ZOMG]Tony Delk once had a 53 point game. :rolleyes:[/quote]What's your problem? I have a hard time believing that you've seen Jennings play even one NBA game if you just typed that. As the second youngest player in the NBA (currently), his very first pro game resulted in 17/9/9. I was at that game, and he definitely had a few more passes that could have resulted in another assist. He was so close to being the second player [b]ever[/b] to record a triple double in his first game. That's something special dude.

In his second NBA game, he willed the Bucks to a win over the Pistons. He simply took over for a quarter when the team needed it, and dropped shot after shot, and got the crowd on their feet. Ended up with 24 points. Scored 25 points the next night in Chicago against Derrick Rose, who last year was supposed to be a top-5 PG already.

Jennings got his first test against a solid defender when he played Chauncey Billups, and instead of backing down he had his best game of the season - 32 points and 9 assists. 58% shooting. He lit Billups up!

And then last night, put up 55/5/5 on 62% shooting - that's a game that would have been a top-10 career game for Kobe Bryant or Dywane Wade. Forget Iverson.

Jennings is currently the 17th rated player in the league statistically according to the fantasy league I'm in. You don't get that from one single hot game. He's been doing it consistently. And you know Tony Delk never did anything like that a month after his 20th birthday.

[quote]I'm not saying Jennings doesn't have a chance to become a fantastic Iverson-like scorer in the NBA, but already it's clear that he's not the [i]point guard[/i] that Rubio is.[/quote]No it isn't clear. When you're out on the floor with four guys who can't shoot, and you take responsibility for the scoring yourself, it does not mean that you are selfish or don't understand the game or whatever. Every single coach alive would want Jennings taking the shots that he's been taking, because he is by far the best scorer on the team.

[quote]Jennings has been launching bombs pretty much with his eyes closed and his conscience turned off lately, and they're all going in.[/quote]Fail. He's shooting 50% on the season, leading a team that everybody thought would be atrocious to a great record. Give him some fricking respect. And if in the all-star game this season he fails to pass the rock to Lebron and Bosh, [i]then[/i] you can say he isn't a real like your man Rubio who isn't in the NBA at all.

The way Jennings and his Bucks have been playing, he's allowed to say anything he wants :oldlol:

He couldnt have made this statement prior to his NBA career though, Rubio was doing much better in Spain than Jennings was in Italy and Rubio was looking like the better prospect. I don't think many people expected Jennings to be this good coming in and I don't think that Rubio could perform at this level so early into his NBA career.

do you know that rubio and jennings are two completely DIFFERENT type of players?

It's like comparing iverson with kidd.

[QUOTE=Yuki Nagato]do you know that rubio and jennings are two completely DIFFERENT type of players?

It's like comparing iverson with kidd.[/QUOTE]

Yes, but who's better/ranked higher? Your post just got flipped.

I thought Jennings would be a bust but he's proven that to be false. That being said, I'm not wild about how many shots he puts up but he's no bum that's for sure. I think that Skiles will keep him under control and be able to teach him a few things. I don't care that he scored 55 pts in a game that's meaningless to me. As far as he and Rubio are concerned they are two totally different players. Rubio is unproven until he plays here regardless of what Jennings says. In addition, their games are not similar at all so it's not worth comparing them.

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]I don't care that he scored 55 pts in a game that's meaningless to me.[/QUOTE]
Then your priorities are out of whack. He willed his team to a victory when they were getting spanked by a red-hot offensive team. That's about the most meaningful thing an NBA player can do.

[QUOTE=Toizumi]The way Jennings and his Bucks have been playing, he's allowed to say anything he wants :oldlol:

He couldnt have made this statement prior to his NBA career though, Rubio was doing much better in Spain than Jennings was in Italy and Rubio was looking like the better prospect. I don't think many people expected Jennings to be this good coming in and I don't think that Rubio could perform at this level so early into his NBA career.[/QUOTE]
he DID make this statement before his NBA career though. The OP thought it was an appropriate time to start trolling which is the whole point of this topic

Isn't this way old?

Oh and where did this myth about him being a team cancer and having a bad attitude come from? What a load of crock.

[QUOTE=twolvesfan]he DID make this statement before his NBA career though. The OP thought it was an appropriate time to start trolling which is the whole point of this topic[/QUOTE]

My bad, didnt read the whole OP's post. Thanks for the heads up btw. I still remember him making that statement btw, there were topics about it then :ohwell: He shouldnt have said it though... Based on their careers prior to the NBA draft, Rubio deserved to go higher and he deserved the hype. Jennings was out of place with that statement... but there were threads about this back then. OLD stuff!!

Who cares, knicks have Chris Duhon

Why does it matter if he keeps shooting? who is taking shots away from? bogut? delfino? let the kid shoot, hes actually getting them wins... i dnt understand how people cant except it, he really is good.... btw when he was in HS every1 was comparing him to AI and saying he would b great... the only reason we r surprised now is cuz he went europe

[QUOTE=adamcz]Then your priorities are out of whack. He willed his team to a victory when they were getting spanked by a red-hot offensive team. That's about the most meaningful thing an NBA player can do.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that insight. What I'm more concerned about is a PG that's putting up 5ast to 3.5to and jacking up a bunch of shots. It's great that he had a nice game last night and he is definitely not a bust, but If he's just going to be another short guy that jacks up shots and not a PG, well than that concerns me. I'm thinking about his impact long term at his position, not how many points he scores in one game so, I would say that my priorities are in "whack". In case you weren't aware, the basketball world is filled with short guys that turn the ball over a bunch and want to take the most shots on the team. That's not going to get any team anywhere long term. As I said before, I think that he's good and has the potential to be really good but we'll have to wait and see how he develops.

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]Thanks for that insight. What I'm more concerned about is a PG that's putting up 5ast to 3.5to and jacking up a bunch of shots. It's great that he had a nice game last night and he is definitely not a bust, but If he's just going to be another short guy that jacks up shots and not a PG, well than that concerns me. I'm thinking about his impact long term at his position, not how many points he scores in one game so, I would say that my priorities are in "whack". In case you weren't aware, the basketball world is filled with short guys that turn the ball over a bunch and want to take the most shots on the team. That's not going to get any team anywhere long term. As I said before, I think that he's good and has the potential to be really good but we'll have to wait and see how he develops.[/QUOTE]

he has played 8 games in his career and your worried about his assits and turnovers while not watching him play a game. He has alredy had 10 assits games and has shown the ability to pass. Dude is not a gunner, he even said the reason he did it was because they disrespected his jumper than he just got insanely hot.

Not sure why at this point in their respective careers any one gives any credence to any quotes/stories of this manner.

[QUOTE=Younggrease]he has played 8 games in his career and your worried about his assits and turnovers while not watching him play a game. He has alredy had 10 assits games and has shown the ability to pass. Dude is not a gunner, he even said the reason he did it was because they disrespected his jumper than he just got insanely hot.[/QUOTE]
I think what you meant to say was that he had two games with 9 assists. He has not put up less than 15 shots in a single game. You must not have watched him play a game. Have you read anything that I've said? I said the kid was good and has the chance to be great. WTF is wrong with that? I have seen him play I have league pass. I'm not allowed to express my concerns about a young player? That's cool. He's perfect. He's gonna be the GOAT. Skiles needs to just unleash him. Yes I am worried about his turnovers. I am also worried that he will jack up shots. Maybe you've missed the trend for young basketball players over the last 15 years?

I really don't see why the OP posted this, without saying when the article is from.


He said this before the draft, when the media was all over the Rubio situation and Jennings' draft stock didn't seem to get as high as he (Jennings) expected. Brandon was probably a little frustrated at the point, having heard all over about his terrible stats of his season. True or not, it is a stupid and unnecessary comment.

Immature comment, but I think he has more than made up for it for the maturity and greatness he has displayed.

What was the point of this, again?

I've never been a Kobe Bryant fan. If not for (first) Knoe and later on, Loki, I might have been viewed as one of the board's biggest haters. But when he scored 81 points, I recognized a simple fact: criticizing such a magnificent performance is unreasonable and stupid. We watch basketball to see great athletes do great things, and that's what Bryant did that night. Similarly, in the political arena, there was a great deal of backlash when the President won the Nobel Peace Prize. While I certainly believe that there were others just as worthy if not more worthy, if you actually stood up and, where people could hear or read you proclaimed that Obama winning said prize was somehow bad for America? Then you're an idiot. You are forcing yourself to use some kind of convoluted logic to justify an irrational conclusion. Which brings us back to Jennings' performance.

I've been neutral about the guy, because all I've ever seen of him is some highlights. Way I see it, there's nothing wrong with not holding an opinion when you don't have much information. And I didn't see the 55-point game either. Also, I have nothing but disrespect for the Warriors d, much like NY "smallball" has crossed the line. But...

He's 20 years old and he was able to score 55 points in an NBA game. Give him his ****ing props. Even if the d was sucking (and it probably did), no one (at least that I can think of) has done this before at his age. This is an accomplishment. [I]Everyone[/I] isn't getting 50 point games against the Woe-is-yours. And he's been having an excellent statistical year so far. So why can't people (thankfully, this a minority) stop being stupid, give the young man some credit, and move on with their lives?

[QUOTE=Yuki Nagato]do you know that rubio and jennings are two completely DIFFERENT type of players?

It's like comparing iverson with kidd.[/QUOTE]
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No its not, jennings is more of a point than A.I.

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]Thanks for that insight. What I'm more concerned about is a PG that's putting up 5ast to 3.5to and jacking up a bunch of shots. It's great that he had a nice game last night and he is definitely not a bust, but If he's just going to be another short guy that jacks up shots and not a PG, well than that concerns me. I'm thinking about his impact long term at his position, not how many points he scores in one game so, I would say that my priorities are in "whack". In case you weren't aware, the basketball world is filled with short guys that turn the ball over a bunch and want to take the most shots on the team. That's not going to get any team anywhere long term. As I said before, I think that he's good and has the potential to be really good but we'll have to wait and see how he develops.[/QUOTE]


You can say that about everyone. People gotta realize that he plays with a ton of fire as well, not a mere gunner. When Redd gets back that'll increase his assists. And in the long run, once he is surrounded by shooters and athletes, those assist numbers will creep up. And can someone tell me who is the last NBA assist leader to win a championship the same season.

[QUOTE=mrhoopfan]You can say that about everyone. People gotta realize that he plays with a ton of fire as well, not a mere gunner. When Redd gets back that'll increase his assists. And in the long run, once he is surrounded by shooters and athletes, those assist numbers will creep up. And can someone tell me who is the last NBA assist leader to win a championship the same season.[/QUOTE]
It's about being a PG that gets his teammates involved. You don't have to lead the league in assists. Instead, why don't you find me the list of PGs that lead their team in shots and won a championship? That list would be really short. Again, I already said that he was good. I just expressed my concerns about what he needs to work on. It's called constructive criticism.

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]It's about being a PG that gets his teammates involved. You don't have to lead the league in assists. Instead, why don't you find me the list of PGs that lead their team in shots and won a championship? That list would be really short. Again, I already said that he was good. I just expressed my concerns about what he needs to work on. It's called constructive criticism.[/QUOTE]

8 games...

[QUOTE=Toizumi]The way Jennings and his Bucks have been playing, he's allowed to say anything he wants :oldlol:

He couldnt have made this statement prior to his NBA career though, Rubio was doing much better in Spain than Jennings was in Italy and Rubio was looking like the better prospect. I don't think many people expected Jennings to be this good coming in and I don't think that Rubio could perform at this level so early into his NBA career.[/QUOTE]

the article was back in june before jennings even got drafted.

[QUOTE=Younggrease]8 games...[/QUOTE]
Well if you're unable to criticize a player after eight games then I guess no one can say that he's good either? That's what you're saying right? These eight games show you absolutely nothing about the player? We can't laud him for any success nor point out any short comings? Ok, cool.

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]It's about being a PG that gets his teammates involved. You don't have to lead the league in assists. Instead, why don't you find me the list of PGs that lead their team in shots and won a championship? That list would be really short. Again, I already said that he was good. I just expressed my concerns about what he needs to work on. It's called constructive criticism.[/QUOTE]

Most recent NBA champs have had a dominant guard( not necessarily a point) that had the ball in their hands alot and took alot of shots. as for the bucks, Andrew Bogut seems to be getting involved quite well. Jennings had nice kick out passes to Meeks who hasn't quite found his touch yet. Hakim Warrick, Charlie Bell and Mbah a Moute are all 7th-10th men on good teams.

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]Well if you're unable to criticize a player after eight games then I guess no one can say that he's good either? That's what you're saying right? These eight games show you absolutely nothing about the player? We can't laud him for any success nor point out any short comings? Ok, cool.[/QUOTE]

you criticisms/conclusions are irrational based on 8 games...critucizing 3.5 to for a rookie pg is a joke

that article is old, but i believe the kid, rubio will have to come over and prove him wrong because i don't live in a world of "what ifs"

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]It's about being a PG that gets his teammates involved. You don't have to lead the league in assists. Instead, why don't you find me the list of PGs that lead their team in shots and won a championship?[/quote]I got a better question for you. How about you tell me when Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, John Stockton, Deron Williams, Chris Paul ever won a championship? If pure point guard play really leads to championships, you better come up with a really good excuse why those guys don't have them.

Brandon Jennings is by far the best scorer on the Bucks. Therefore smart coaching and smart decision making by himself says that he should take the most shots. Quit hating - you don't deserve to have any opinion at all, because you haven't been watching the games.

[QUOTE=adamcz]I got a better question for you. How about you tell me when Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, John Stockton, Deron Williams, Chris Paul ever won a championship? If pure point guard play really leads to championships, you better come up with a really good excuse why those guys don't have them.

Brandon Jennings is by far the best scorer on the Bucks. Therefore smart coaching and smart decision making by himself says that he should take the most shots. Quit hating - you don't deserve to have any opinion at all, because you haven't been watching the games.[/QUOTE]


:cheers:

You cant be too critical of a rookie in his/her infants stages. The kid is ballin. Milw is rebuilding. Playoffs is nowhere on the horizon. I have no problem with how Brandon Jennings is playing. He's fun to watch and a blur. There wasnt much to talk about before he arrived in Milw. Now there is. If he is 5-6yrs in the league with poor asst/to ratio stats? Then we can criticize. Outside of that? He's a rookie, go out there and show your ass. He's actually backing up everything he said that pissed off some fans over the summer. Go watch the Joe Budden videos. Altho Joe screwed him putting a PRIVATE convo into the PUBLIC. He's backing up what he said.

[QUOTE=adamcz]Brandon Jennings is by far the [B]best scorer[/B] on the Bucks. Therefore smart coaching and smart decision making by himself says that [B]he should take the most shots[/B]. Quit hating - you don't deserve to have any opinion at all, because you haven't been watching the games.[/QUOTE]

And this could be said about Allen Iverson career in Philly. Yet no one ever considered it. Kinda funny.

[QUOTE=adamcz]I got a better question for you. How about you tell me when Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, John Stockton, Deron Williams, Chris Paul ever won a championship? If pure point guard play really leads to championships, you better come up with a really good excuse why those guys don't have them.

[B]Brandon Jennings is by far the best scorer on the Bucks. Therefore smart coaching and smart decision making by himself says that he should take the most shots.[/B] Quit hating - you don't deserve to have any opinion at all, because you haven't been watching the games.[/QUOTE]

from when i picked up the game last night he was also shooting the ball well and taking good shots, i didn't see him just get the ball and chuck, he was still looking to get others involved and in the process finding his team the best shot

:bowdown:

[QUOTE=plowking]Oh and where did this myth about him being a team cancer and having a bad attitude come from? What a load of crock.[/QUOTE]
Jennings was a bit of a problem at Oak Hill. His time in Italy really did wonders for his maturity and self-entitlement issues. Also someone on here pointed out if you followed his blog from last season you could actually see the difference through his use of words and his changing outlook on things.

[I]Side Note: that maturity aspect is why some people think the Overseas option is best for the "One and Done" HS prospects. The reality of having to earn stuff can either be too much to deal with or give a kid perspective that he lacked.[/I]

[QUOTE=adamcz]I got a better question for you. How about you tell me when Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, John Stockton, Deron Williams, Chris Paul ever won a championship? If pure point guard play really leads to championships, you better come up with a really good excuse why those guys don't have them.

Brandon Jennings is by far the best scorer on the Bucks. Therefore smart coaching and smart decision making by himself says that he should take the most shots. Quit hating - you don't deserve to have any opinion at all, because you haven't been watching the games.[/QUOTE]
D o u c h e b a g- when was I hating? How many times did I say he was good and has the chance to be great? Get a grip.