Michael Jordan to return for the 2012/2013 season?

Apparently there are some rumors going on in Charlotte that MJ is actually planning to return for the 2012/2013 season. During this season Michael will turn 50 and it is said that Mike wants make a statement that age is not an obstacle anywhere in live. Therefore choosing the season in which he turns 50 would fit just perfectly. Furthermore this would make sense as the team could be built up the next two years so that in 12/13 they could have a real shot for going deep in the playofffs with MJ.
It is said that Jordans knee is know fully recovered and in a way better shape then it was in his Wizards years. As people in Charlotte claim Mike will work out hard for the next two years and is eager two return two the court in a better shape then he did in 2002.
What do you think? Is this just some smack talk or could there be some truth in those rumors. Somehow it sounds believable to mo on the other hand it just sounds to good to be true.
However with his knee fully recovered i am sure Mike would be at least as good as in 2003. Age is not a factor this days any more.

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Let's hope Henderson is still with the team so that he doesn't get lit up.

I could see him playing for the charity event, vets match, etc., but not competitive basketball 82 games + playoffs per year. As much as I respect MJ, I dont think its happening.

He'd be the biggest liability on defense and he wouldn't be able to score 5 points a game.

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LOL not happening...everyone(including jordan) has a limit...

Wasn't their some issue with him being a part of managment and a player as the Wizards? Can he be owner and player at the same time?

[QUOTE=plowking]He'd be the biggest liability on defense and he wouldn't be able to score 5 points a game.[/QUOTE]
He would be torched in the defense (maybe less than Nash, but its not the point :oldlol:), but if you leave him open in the offense, his shots are still the money, as seen from numerous videos in the last couple of years. Even with defender in his face, MJ fadeaway is silky smooth as always, just he cant jump high anymore.

[QUOTE=Harison]He would be torched in the defense (maybe less than Nash, but its not the point :oldlol:), but if you leave him open in the offense, his shots are still the money, as seen from numerous videos in the last couple of years. Even with defender in his face, MJ fadeaway is silky smooth as always, just he cant jump high anymore.[/QUOTE]

He will get his fade away shots thrown back at his face, there is no way he can still jump.

Jordan is no deity. He can't defy age, and if he comes back at age 50 the younger guys will embarass him.

[QUOTE=SAKOTXA]He will get his fade away shots thrown back at his face, there is no way he can still jump.[/QUOTE]
Bird couldnt jump either, it didnt affected him much. As long as MJ is free or creates space (which he is/was master of), his shot is reliable and I would take him over most current 35+ years old bench players.

[QUOTE=beermonsteroo]Apparently there are some rumors going on in Charlotte that MJ is actually planning to return for the 2012/2013 season. During this season Michael will turn 50 and it is said that Mike wants make a statement that age is not an obstacle anywhere in live. Therefore choosing the season in which he turns 50 would fit just perfectly. Furthermore this would make sense as the team could be built up the next two years so that in 12/13 they could have a real shot for going deep in the playofffs with MJ.
It is said that Jordans knee is know fully recovered and in a way better shape then it was in his Wizards years. As people in Charlotte claim Mike will work out hard for the next two years and is eager two return two the court in a better shape then he did in 2002.
What do you think? Is this just some smack talk or could there be some truth in those rumors. Somehow it sounds believable to mo on the other hand it just sounds to good to be true.
However with his knee fully recovered i am sure Mike would be at least as good as in 2003. Age is not a factor this days any more.[/QUOTE]


This is science fiction... I dont know if you made this up or somebody else made this up but you people need to go to doctor or something...

i like how everyone is taking this ridiculous fantasy scenario to bash MJ "HE'LL GET EMBARASSED!" "He'll get destroyed and owned and swatted!!!" "He wouldn't be able to score 5 points!" as if it means anything. i mean, wouldnt any 50 year old be torched? so what's the use of these statements?

and they're all people with Laker logo in their avatars :oldlol:

LOL this is a joke even if it is real.

[QUOTE=EricForman]i like how everyone is taking this ridiculous fantasy scenario to bash MJ "HE'LL GET EMBARASSED!" "He'll get destroyed and owned and swatted!!!" "He wouldn't be able to score 5 points!" as if it means anything. i mean, [B]wouldnt any 50 year old be torched?[/B] so what's the use of these statements?

and they're all people with Laker logo in their avatars :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Yes, but not all of them actually think they're better than most the players today.

And Harrison, Bird got some lift on his jumpshot in his prime, plus he was taller than MJ and not to mention a different player. Jordan wouldn't be doing sh!t in the league.

[QUOTE=beermonsteroo]Apparently there are some rumors going on in Charlotte that MJ is actually planning to return for the 2012/2013 season. During this season Michael will turn 50 and it is said that Mike wants make a statement that age is not an obstacle anywhere in live. Therefore choosing the season in which he turns 50 would fit just perfectly. Furthermore this would make sense as the team could be built up the next two years so that in 12/13 they could have a real shot for going deep in the playofffs with MJ.
It is said that Jordans knee is know fully recovered and in a way better shape then it was in his Wizards years. As people in Charlotte claim Mike will work out hard for the next two years and is eager two return two the court in a better shape then he did in 2002.
What do you think? Is this just some smack talk or could there be some truth in those rumors. Somehow it sounds believable to mo on the other hand it just sounds to good to be true.
However with his knee fully recovered i am sure Mike would be at least as good as in 2003. Age is not a factor this days any more.[/QUOTE]

Stop lying and making things up.

Jordan could still score in the NBA I'm sure with his size at the 2 guard position and fadeaway/mid-range jumper. I mean he averaged 20/6/4 on 45% shooting in 2003.

[QUOTE=plowking]Yes, but not all of them actually think they're better than most the players today.

And Harrison, Bird got some lift on his jumpshot in his prime, plus he was taller than MJ and not to mention a different player. Jordan wouldn't be doing sh!t in the league.[/QUOTE]

even if what you're arguing--that 50 year old Jordan is worse than 50 year old Bird or other 50 year old NBA players--is true, what does that prove or say? does it take away from what Jordan did in 97? 87? and Jordan thinking he can compete is just part of his personality. Just like 60 year old Wilt was sitting at home criticizing everyone and probably thinking he would drop 100 in any era against anyone. Great players have egos and don't just suddenly back down because they age. I bet you during any practice you'll hear former-players-turned-assistant-coach talk a little smack to current players. When Kobe reaches say, age 39, he wouldn't suddenly think some 21 year old rook would whup his ass. When Lebron's 55 he wouldn't admit that a 17 year old high school junior could beat him one on one. that's just how men are. we all have pride.

you just hate the man, don't you? i've seen you jump into any jordan thread and call him an as*hole or lowlife or something of that ilk.

all the replies on here reeks of immaturity. talking about how jordan would get swatted now or embarassed doesn't say or prove anything of value. it's just an immature way for immature people to get in some cheap shots. it's like me saying Kwame Brown could drop 50 on Kareem today if they played head to head and then throw in a bunch of smiley emoticons. :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=EricForman]even if what you're arguing--that 50 year old Jordan is worse than 50 year old Bird or other 50 year old NBA players--what does that prove or say? does it take away from what Jordan did in 97? 87? and Jordan thinking he can compete is just part of his personality. Just like 60 year old Wilt was sitting at home criticizing everyone and probably thinking he would drop 100 in any era against anyone. Great players have egos and they always think they can conquer any challenges.

you just hate the man, don't you? i've seen you jump into any jordan thread and call him an as*hole or lowlife or something of that ilk.

all the replies on here reeks of immaturity. talking about how jordan would get swatted now or embarassed doesn't say or prove anything of value. it's just an immature way for immature people to get in some cheap shots. it's like me saying Kwame Brown could drop 50 on Kareem today if they played head to head. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

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I've called Jordan an ass before, because he simply is. Though I've stayed and argued in many Jordan hate threads that he is clearly the undisputed greatest ever with knobs such as Roundball and Fatal.

Where did I say anything about Jordan's other accomplishments? What the f*ck are you honestly talking about?

[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234]Jordan could still score in the NBA I'm sure with his size at the 2 guard position and fadeaway/mid-range jumper. I mean he averaged 20/6/4 on 45% shooting in 2003.[/QUOTE]

Yeah he'd score about 5 ppg on 35% shooting.

[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234]Jordan could still score in the NBA I'm sure with his size at the 2 guard position and fadeaway/mid-range jumper. I mean he averaged 20/6/4 on 45% shooting in 2003.[/QUOTE]

The guys is 50 f[COLOR="Black"]uck[/COLOR]ing years old!

[QUOTE=EricForman]i like how everyone is taking this ridiculous fantasy scenario to bash MJ "HE'LL GET EMBARASSED!" "He'll get destroyed and owned and swatted!!!" "He wouldn't be able to score 5 points!" as if it means anything. i mean, wouldnt any 50 year old be torched? so what's the use of these statements?

and they're all people with Laker logo in their avatars :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Exactly.:lol

[QUOTE=plowking]...

I've called Jordan an ass before, because he simply is. Though I've stayed and argued in many Jordan hate threads that he is clearly the undisputed greatest ever with knobs such as Roundball and Fatal.

Where did I say anything about Jordan's other accomplishments? What the f*ck are you honestly talking about?[/QUOTE]


that the replies in the first page are mostly silly immature replies meant to take cheap shots. all over something jordan didnt even say and based on one posters lies? its pointless. why dont i start a thread about hakeem teaching people footwork and then talk about how Al Jefferson would run circles around Hakeem in the post and drop 40 on him? :confusedshrug:

i just thought it was funny most of these replies had laker avartars.

[QUOTE=plowking]Yeah he'd score about 5 ppg on 35% shooting.[/QUOTE]

:roll: So he'd drop off that much in 7-8 years despite perimeter defense getting softer? 5 ppg? :oldlol: MJ would get that in the post alone.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCIq7QMdV0c"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCIq7QMdV0c[/URL]

[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234]:roll: So he'd drop off that much in 7-8 years despite perimeter defense getting softer? 5 ppg? :oldlol: MJ would get that in the post alone.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCIq7QMdV0c"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCIq7QMdV0c[/URL][/QUOTE]

He could get 20PPG. The fadeaway is unstoppable.

LMAO, not surprised that the [I]only[/I] people who think MJ could still average 20 ppg are his delusional fanboys.

[QUOTE=Allstar24]LMAO, not surprised that the [I]only[/I] people who think MJ could still average 20 ppg are his delusional fanboys.[/QUOTE]

You cant even touch people these days but 20 points is out of the question?

Wow.

A broken down AI gets 14 points a game but its a stretch for 20. Okay.

I never understand the reason that people create fictions like this one. Jordan is not coming back to basketball, if he did he would be completely embarrassed, and all of his scoring records would take a hit. He would drop himself from a 30ppg scorer to a 27 ppg scorer and leave Wilt as the all time leader in PPG. MJ doesn't want to do that. He would get less than 10 points a game, he would be giving up 30 at the other end.

Edit: Not to mention that at 48 my dad can barely run any more, let alone play his sports (Boxing). There is a reason players retire at a certain age, and it is not because they are still able to play basketball.

[QUOTE=EricForman]that the replies in the first page are mostly silly immature replies meant to take cheap shots. all over something jordan didnt even say and based on one posters lies? its pointless. why dont i start a thread about hakeem teaching people footwork and then talk about how Al Jefferson would run circles around Hakeem in the post and drop 40 on him? :confusedshrug:

i just thought it was funny most of these replies had laker avartars.[/QUOTE]

Jordan has made several comments on that matter, though I won't bother. Look through old posts and you'll see what I mean.


[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234] So he'd drop off that much in 7-8 years despite perimeter defense getting softer? 5 ppg? MJ would get that in the post alone.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCIq7QMdV0c[/url][/QUOTE]

Are you kidding me? Take a look at most players from their peak (usually around 28), and 8 years later at 35-36... Wilt dropped off by 20ppg, Kareem by 9ppg, Magic dropped off dramatically, Oscar's ppg halved in the time, Larry dropped off by 8ppg, Shaq's ppg halved from 28ppg to 14ppg, Hakeem's ppg was cut in half, etc.

Now take that with a 40 year old to 48... You are downright stupid if you think he could average more than 8ppg on credible shooting efficiency.

[QUOTE=phoenix18]You cant even touch people these days but 20 points is out of the question?

Wow.

A broken down AI gets 14 points a game but its a stretch for 20. Okay.[/QUOTE]
MJ is 47 years old, we're supposed to believe he can come back from retirement and drop 20 on guys like Artest or Kobe? I can't believe we're even having this conversation :oldlol:

Didn't he say shortly after buying the Bobcats he's going to play to play next season?

Personally I don't believe it too. However somebody who is usually well informed about whats going on in Charlotte told be about this. So i wouldn't say that it is 100 percent wrong. There could be some 1 percent chance of truth in it.
However if Mikes knees are fully recoverd again ( this can take 6-7 years no problem) and if he wourld really work out hard for a year or more in the gym and trim himself down to 215 poundes, I truely belive that Mike would still be a very decent player. Even at 50 if you are healthy you can bring yourself in an eycellent physical condition, if you really want to. Especially if you have the gens like Mike does.
If Mike would be fully committed and healthy i am sure even at age 50 he could still have like close to 30 inch vert and run the 40m dash in around 5.4 or something, which wouldn't be great but enough to compete in the NBA.
Given this athletic ability, Jordans basketball intelligence and the rules of todays NBA I truely believe Jordan could very well average around 20 points 5assists 6 rebouns on 46 percent from the field.

he would destroy his averages

but think of all the jersey sales he'd make :eek:

charlotte has some ugly ass jerseys and i would still have to buy a home and away jordan jersey

[QUOTE=plowking]Jordan has made several comments on that matter, though I won't bother. Look through old posts and you'll see what I mean.




Are you kidding me? Take a look at most players from their peak (usually around 28), and 8 years later at 35-36... Wilt dropped off by 20ppg, Kareem by 9ppg, Magic dropped off dramatically, Oscar's ppg halved in the time, Larry dropped off by 8ppg, Shaq's ppg halved from 28ppg to 14ppg, Hakeem's ppg was cut in half, etc.

Now take that with a 40 year old to 48... You are downright stupid if you think he could average more than 8ppg on credible shooting efficiency.[/QUOTE]

Im not saying he would have a good FG% but he surely will get over 8ppg. All it would take for him to do so is hit 4 shots (including layups, midrange or 3pt shots). And im sure the refs would call alot of fouls on opposite players guarding him so he should get a decent amount of free throws. 12-13ppg is about what he would get (depending on how much he plays).

Im also wondering if he would try to take the last shot if he has a chance for a game winner or if they would set a play for someone else instead.

[QUOTE=Allstar24]MJ is 47 years old, we're supposed to believe he can come back from retirement and drop 20 on guys like Artest or Kobe? I can't believe we're even having this conversation :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
I'll take 50 year old MJ over Sasha Vujajic:D

[QUOTE=Scribbles]Didn't he say shortly after buying the Bobcats he's going to play to play next season?[/QUOTE]


Yea, maybe somebody heared this and based the rumors that Jordan would come back on this. Would be an explanation.

[QUOTE=PistonsFan#21]Im not saying he would have a good FG% but he surely will get over 8ppg. All it would take for him to do so is hit 4 shots (including layups, midrange or 3pt shots). And im sure the refs would call alot of fouls on opposite players guarding him so he should get a decent amount of free throws. 12-13ppg is about what he would get (depending on how much he plays).

Im also wondering if he would try to take the last shot if he has a chance for a game winner or if they would set a play for someone else instead.[/QUOTE]

Kareem, a top 3 player ever, averaged 11ppg as a 41 year old. What makes you think Jordan, playing on the perimeter, where it's harder to scorer, players are quicker to move in front of you, are more athletic, the shots come from further out is going to score more at 50?

He's not getting any fouls called for him. It would be ridiculously easy for players to stay in front of him, there would be no need for fouls. His "smarts", "basketball knowledge", "basketball IQ" or "heart for the game of basketball", and all these other BS excuses one could possibly think of are no good in this situation. He simply isn't physically capable, and if you think a 50 year old man can go against 25 year olds like Igoudala, Wade and Rose, you're kidding yourself. Do you know how quickly each of those players would blow by Jordan? Do you know how easily they'd get to the spot before Jordan?

[QUOTE=plowking]Kareem, a top 3 player ever, averaged 11ppg as a 41 year old. What makes you think Jordan, playing on the perimeter, where it's harder to scorer, players are quicker to move in front of you, are more athletic, the shots come from further out is going to score more at 50?

He's not getting any fouls called for him. It would be ridiculously easy for players to stay in front of him, there would be no need for fouls. His "smarts", "basketball knowledge", "basketball IQ" or "heart for the game of basketball", and all these other BS excuses one could possibly think of are no good in this situation. He simply isn't physically capable, and if you think a 50 year old man can go against 25 year olds like Igoudala, Wade and Rose, you're kidding yourself. Do you know how quickly each of those players would blow by Jordan? Do you know how easily they'd get to the spot before Jordan?[/QUOTE]


The world record for men above 50 years for running 100m is way under 11 seconds. So if you have the genetics and train very hard you can still be very fast even at 50. At least fast enough to compete in the NBA.

[QUOTE=plowking]Are you kidding me? Take a look at most players from their peak (usually around 28), and 8 years later at 35-36... Wilt dropped off by 20ppg, Kareem by 9ppg, Magic dropped off dramatically, Oscar's ppg halved in the time, Larry dropped off by 8ppg, Shaq's ppg halved from 28ppg to 14ppg, Hakeem's ppg was cut in half, etc.

Now take that with a 40 year old to 48... You are downright stupid if you think he could average more than 8ppg on credible shooting efficiency.[/QUOTE]

Except Jordan at 40 used basically no athleticism either, so where would the big decline come from. If he got in shape he wouldn't be weaker, and if he was healthy he'd still be able to shoot. :oldlol: at 5 ppg on 35% shooting.