Miami cut Arroyo possibly to pick up Bibby
Boston fans would you pick Arroyo up as the 3rd string PG and just to get in the Heatles heads?
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Miami cut Arroyo possibly to pick up Bibby
Boston fans would you pick Arroyo up as the 3rd string PG and just to get in the Heatles heads?
Damn, I feel sorry for Arroyo. But tbh he's crap and Bibby is better for Miami.
To be honest, I can't see how Bibby can be an improvement over Arroyo.
[QUOTE=Nash]Damn, I feel sorry for Arroyo. But tbh he's crap and Bibby is better for Miami.[/QUOTE]
He's better than Arroyo but Bibby's defense is waaay worse than both Arroyo and Chalmers. I can't wait to see what PG's like Rose do to Bibby. It's going to be Murder!
No. please
[QUOTE=davidenk0]To be honest, I can't see how Bibby can be an improvement over Arroyo.[/QUOTE]
he's a better player than arroyo, and bibby will be a solid addition to the crunch time lineup.
the heat got better today. if they had added murphy as well it would have been a pretty big improvement, but this is actually pretty good for them imo.
Arroyo as a third pg isn't bad...but first?
Huge upgrade for Miami.
[QUOTE=ginobli2311]he's a better player than arroyo, and bibby will be a solid addition to the crunch time lineup.
the heat got better today. if they had added murphy as well it would have been a pretty big improvement, but this is actually pretty good for them imo.[/QUOTE]
I dunno, Bibby is a better shooter, but he's not half the player he was in Sacramento and his defense is pretty bad.
I'd love to take Bibby just to piss Miami off. But we did that already with Murphy so I can live with Bibby going there, especially as Rondo would destroy him.
Also Bibby has something that Miami need out of their PG, dude can really shoot the 3. I mean its a no brainer for Miami really.
[QUOTE=crisoner]Arroyo as a third pg isn't bad...but first?
Huge upgrade for Miami.[/QUOTE]
Chalmers was the first option. Arroyo has been getting DNP's for a while now...
[QUOTE=Nash]Also Bibby has something that Miami need out of their PG, dude can really shoot the 3. I mean its a no brainer for Miami really.[/QUOTE]
What does that matter? They already have James Jones, Eddie House, Mike Miller, etc. I'd rather have House play the Point and shoot the 3 in the clutch than Bibby.
Heat don't need a PG.. they have Wade and LeBron..
they need a fu[I]c[/I]king big man..
they can't keep matching up with LA and Boston with that.. they look like midgets..
Makes sense. Point guard for point guard swap. As washed up as Miami's bigs are (outside of Bosh, and a currently injured Haslem)...They need them for depth purposes.
[QUOTE=kidachi]Heat don't need a PG.. they have Wade and LeBron..
they need a fu[I]c[/I]king big man..
they can't keep matching up with LA and Boston with that.. they look like midgets..[/QUOTE]
They can't match up with Chicago either, who owns them by the way like every ELITE team owns the Heat.
The Heat have NOTHING to match up with Joakim Noah, Omer Asik, Taj Gibson, Kurt Thomas, and Carlos Boozer. Nothing!
Damn arroyo was my one of my favorite heat
Start hunting for some good Centers please.
[QUOTE=ReturnofJPR]They can't match up with Chicago either, who owns them by the way like every ELITE team owns the Heat.
The Heat have NOTHING to match up with Joakim Noah, Omer Asik, Taj Gibson, Kurt Thomas, and Carlos Boozer. Nothing![/QUOTE]
and yes.. thank you.. I forgot about the Bulls..
but with all due respect.. when it's time to go.. I think Heat will beat the bulls..
I know you disagree.. but we'll just agree to disagree..
:D
[QUOTE=ReturnofJPR]Chalmers was the first option. Arroyo has been getting DNP's for a while now...
What does that matter? They already have James Jones, Eddie House, Mike Miller, etc. I'd rather have House play the Point and shoot the 3 in the clutch than Bibby.[/QUOTE]
Bibby is also a clutch shooter. Also, having a PG who can shoot the 3 is important for Miami since they don't really need their PG to be a playmaker since they have Lebron and Wade for that.
[QUOTE=kidachi]and yes.. thank you.. I forgot about the Bulls..
but with all due respect.. when it's time to go.. I think Heat will beat the bulls..
I know you disagree.. but we'll just agree to disagree..
:D[/QUOTE]
Of course I disagree. Chicago has the better defense, rebounding, PG, Bigs, bench, etc.
Miami has no bigs, no bench, and worst of all..the Miami Heat are soft. Just like Christina Bosh.
We will see who gets that 1 seed. Miami plays 1 on 1. Chicago plays as a team. We'll see which works better come the playoffs. And up to it. :D
[QUOTE=kidachi]Heat don't need a PG.. they have Wade and LeBron..
they need a fu[I]c[/I]king big man..
they can't keep matching up with LA and Boston with that.. they look like midgets..[/QUOTE]
you guys have the size(Damp and Z are huge), its just that they all suck
[QUOTE=crisoner]Arroyo as a third pg isn't bad...but first?
Huge upgrade for Miami.[/QUOTE]
this. bibby is certainly not the star he was on the kings, but he can still knock down threes about as good as anyone. bibby will be out there in crunch time, and you can't leave him. so if miller is out there as well, you have two guys that can not only hit threes as good as anyone, but both of them can score off the dribble on their own as well.
this is a very big move imo.
[QUOTE=flipogb]you guys have the size(Damp and Z are huge), its just that they all suck[/QUOTE]
And they can't run. Guys like Noah, who can out-run Paul Pierce on the fastbreak and has done so in the playoffs, will run circles around those old fogies. And I don't know why Joel Anthony is still on the HEAT. Funniest thing of all, Joel Anthony got a pretty good long term deal for himself and will be sticking around on South Beach for years...
[QUOTE=kidachi]Heat don't need a PG.. they have Wade and LeBron..
they need a fu[I]c[/I]king big man..
they can't keep matching up with LA and Boston with that.. they look like midgets..[/QUOTE]
This. If they need a PG, they need someone who takes the ball away from Bron and actually run the offense.
[QUOTE=ReturnofJPR]Of course I disagree. Chicago has the better defense, rebounding, PG, Bigs, bench, etc.
Miami has no bigs, no bench, and worst of all..the Miami Heat are soft. Just like Christina Bosh.
We will see who gets that 1 seed. Miami plays 1 on 1. Chicago plays as a team. We'll see which works better come the playoffs. And up to it. :D[/QUOTE]
Ok man.. we'll see. :cheers:
and BTW, yes Chris Bosh is soft.. I'd trade him in a heartbeat if I had the power.
[QUOTE=flipogb]you guys have the size(Damp and Z are huge), its just that they all suck[/QUOTE]
That's why I said they need a big..
they're few and they suck. Damp and Z against KG, Big Baby, Shaq, JO, Gasol, Odom and on and on and on.. --->:facepalm
[QUOTE=kidachi]Ok man.. we'll see. :cheers:
and BTW, yes Chris Bosh is soft.. I'd trade him in a heartbeat if I had the power.[/QUOTE]
And who are the HEAT going to go to in the clutch? Bron has too big of an ego not to take a clutch shot ever again for the Heat. He has to prove to himself, and the world, that he can hit the clutch shot despite him bricking them non-stop lately (like against the Bulls, Knicks, etc.)
At least Chicago knows they have clutch players like Deng and Rose. Heck, Korver even hit the game winning 3 over the HEAT the 1st time around...
[QUOTE=ginobli2311]this. bibby is certainly not the star he was on the kings, but he can still knock down threes about as good as anyone. [B]bibby will be out there in crunch time,[/B] and you can't leave him. so if miller is out there as well, you have two guys that can not only hit threes as good as anyone, but both of them can score off the dribble on their own as well.
this is a very big move imo.[/QUOTE]
so he starts over house during crunch time?
wade, lebron, bosh,
offensively, i'll put house and james jones in with the big 3.
[QUOTE=ReturnofJPR]And who are the HEAT going to go to in the clutch? Bron has too big of an ego not to take a clutch shot ever again for the Heat. He has to prove to himself, and the world, that he can hit the clutch shot despite him bricking them non-stop lately (like against the Bulls, Knicks, etc.)
At least Chicago knows they have clutch players like Deng and Rose. Heck, Korver even hit the game winning 3 over the HEAT the 1st time around...[/QUOTE]
why are just ignoring lebron's entire history of clutch shots. stop being a prisoner of the moment.
lebron has 5 game winners in the playoffs for his career. he's on pace to make the most out of any player all time.
lebron is not the best game winning shot player ever, but he's one of the best in the league right now. a few misses on a new team can't change that.
this clutch thing is getting blown out of proportion. even the best players shoot under 40%.
having bibby on the floor in these situations is a huge upgrade.
[QUOTE=oldschool4ever]so he starts over house during crunch time?
wade, lebron, bosh,
offensively, i'll put house and james jones in with the big 3.[/QUOTE]
yes, i'd much rather have bibby out there than house late in games. its not even a question for me.
not only is bibby as good of or a better shooter, but he can actually get his own shot and make a play for somebody else if need be.
Bron has never played next to Wade before, this is a new experience for him and so far the entire planet is laughing at LeBrick's lame attempts at clutch shots. He has failed miserably in his new situation in the clutch.
It's a serious problem for the HEAT right now and don't act like it isn't because it is.
The spurs should pick him up for his defense
I dread Chris Quinn minutes
[QUOTE=tx_dave]The spurs should pick him up for his defense
I dread Chris Quinn minutes[/QUOTE]
The Chris Paul stopper? [url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200804020MIA.html[/url]
Suit yourself.
Hey! 2 and a half men, do you guys want a guy who's spreading the floor better ?45% and 43%, passes well and attempts defense OR
do you want a guy who shoots 43% from the field and three,passes about as well, but doesn't play defense?
[QUOTE=Rose]Hey! 2 and a half men, do you guys want a guy who's spreading the floor better ?45% and 43%, passes well and attempts defense OR
do you want a guy who shoots 43% from the field and three,passes about as well, but doesn't play defense?[/QUOTE]
Don't get it twisted dude, Bibby is a much better shooter than Arroyo. All of Arroyo's shots this season have been enough time to watch the 5th set of a Wimbledon final type wide open. LeBatard said Bibby was shooting like high 60's on open baskets yesterday.
Knicks should pick him up
[QUOTE=Alonzo Magic]Don't get it twisted dude, Bibby is a much better shooter than Arroyo. All of Arroyo's shots this season have been enough time to watch the 5th set of a Wimbledon final type wide open. LeBatard said Bibby was shooting like high 60's on open baskets yesterday.[/QUOTE]
Why did ATL give up on Bibby then? Clearly, Bibby can't play defense and has lost more than a step in his old age.
[QUOTE=Nelson14]Damn arroyo was my one of my favorite heat[/QUOTE]
So were you born in Puerto Rico or do you just have Rican in your bloodline?
[QUOTE=ReturnofJPR]Why did ATL give up on Bibby then? Clearly, Bibby can't play defense and has lost more than a step in his old age.[/QUOTE]
Atlanta gave up Bibby because they were able to acquire a superior PG.
Why did you even quote my post? I wasn't making a judgement on Mike Bibby the player, I know he's the worst defender in the league.
Arroyo hasnt been that good this season and I prefer Bibby as the number 2. But if he starts I think we'll get worse defensively. He'll definitely help us in the way that we close out games though, since we havent been all that great at that recently lol.
[QUOTE=Alonzo Magic]Atlanta gave up Bibby because they were able to acquire a superior PG.
Why did you even quote my post? I wasn't making a judgement on Mike Bibby the player, I know he's the worst defender in the league.[/QUOTE]
A superior defender but Captain Kirk is very unclutch and not the greatest shooter around...and I quote whatever post I want to quote.