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If there was a shooting contest between Chris Mullin and Larry Bird, who would you pick?
Think about that and [URL="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/08/05/SPG21KJEO8.DTL#ixzz1UYYsIQjG"]then read this [/URL]
[QUOTE]One day, in a quiet and near-empty Barcelona gym, Bird and Mullin got into a shooting contest: man on man, match the other guy's shot or you owe him a hundred bucks. Stays even if both guys make it.[/QUOTE]
Tough one. I'll pick Bird but its close to 50/50
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Bird all day, every day.
If they would have kept playing that day, Bird would have won.
id go with mullen on 3s and everything else to bird
[QUOTE=inclinerator]id go with mullen on 3s and everything else to bird[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=inclinerator]id go with mullen on 3s and everything else to bird[/QUOTE]
I have heard stories of both of them going shooting dozens and dozens of shots without a miss. I personally saw Mullin shoot what felt like 30 or 40 20-25ft shots without a miss.
[URL="http://www.bouncemag.com/2011/04/04/the-playground-gave-us-mo-aka-chris-mullin/"]Mullin Link [/URL] Check out the comments on the page, search for Tokyo and read that comment and the next.
I can't find the Bird link, but it was from a TV guy, maybe for ESPN. Mickey Mantle had come in for interview and just waiting in the back room watching the camera feed from the Boston Garden before a game and he notices Mantle watching closer and closer and then Mantle says, "this guy doesn't miss." And they watched some more without Bird missing.
If they were drinking, Mullin in a heartbeat
I'm going with mullin. He had arguably the sweetest shot in the game.
[QUOTE=KevinNYC]I have heard stories of both of them going shooting dozens and dozens of shots without a miss. I personally saw Mullin shoot what felt like 30 or 40 20-25ft shots without a miss.
[URL="http://www.bouncemag.com/2011/04/04/the-playground-gave-us-mo-aka-chris-mullin/"]Mullin Link [/URL] Check out the comments on the page, search for Tokyo and read that comment and the next.
I can't find the Bird link, but it was from a TV guy, maybe for ESPN. Mickey Mantle had come in for interview and just waiting in the back room watching the camera feed from the Boston Garden before a game and he notices Mantle watching closer and closer and then Mantle says, "this guy doesn't miss." And they watched some more without Bird missing.[/QUOTE]
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Bill Fairweather (Sportscenter Producer): [I]As I prepared, I remembered when I was twenty-one years old and working at this local station in the sports department and Mickey Mantle came by as part of a promotional tour. He came into the sports office and wound up sitting there while the PR guy was doing some other stuff. So we're in this room together, but I'm not going to bother him. He's Mickey Mantle, right? The office had TV screens with different feeds and games that are going on, but one of the screen had the live feed from Boston Garden. So now it's like 4:30 p.m., and the lights are not even on at the Garden, but Larry Bird is out there shooting, as is his pregame ritual. He would always be out there hours before anyone else, shooting a half an hour or an hour by himself. Not even anyone retrieving the ball.
So Mantle sits back and starts watching Bird shooting, and two minutes go by, and I notice Bird hasn't missed a shot. Two more minutes go by; Bird still hasn't missed a shot. And I see Mantle start to sit up, to get on the edge of his chair and get more and more intently focused on watching this. No joke, Bird has probably taken a hundred shots in a row and not missed one. Mantle is just totally amazed by what he's seeing, and I'm watching him watch Bird. I'm getting a real kick out of this because I'm seeing this guy, one of the greatest baseball players of all time, watching one of the greatest basketball players of all time, all the while knowing that there are only two people in the world who are aware of what's going on now, and it's me and Mickey Mantle.
I think Bird was shooting for close to ten minutes without missing a shot, and finally Mantle gets to the point where he has to say something. He's just so amazed by what he's been seeing that he looks at me and says, "This boy doesn't miss." And I looked at him and I said, "Yeah, but you're Mickey Mantle."[/I]
Larry Legend
Oh yeah, that new ESPN Book.
Wow, just read the review in Time which led to [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HNgqQVHI_8"]this clip[/URL].
Didn't know about this, but I bet everyone who ever watched Jim Rome wanted to do this.
Learned a new word too. The Time review calls Jim Rome [B]rebarbative[/B].
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I have mentioned it before, but I attended a Knicks-Warriors game in Oakland in the early 70's, and in the pre-game shoot-around, Jerry Lucas hit some 20 straight shots from between the circles (about 25 ft on average)...high-arching rainbows, and very few even rippled the net. He was past his prime by then, but even years before the media coined the term "Lucas Layup" in his honor. There is also some footage available on YouTube with him swishing FT line HOOK SHOTS (in at least a couple of videos for sure.) All of this from the premier PF of his era. A player that had TWO 20-20 seasons (and several more near-misses.) He was the Kevin Love of his era.
Jon McGlocklin was a 6-5 220 lb. guard that also had 25+ ft. range. He had some outstanding seasons, but in the 70-71 season he shot .535 ... much of it from what would be the 3pt line in today's NBA.
For pure shooting, how about the name of Wilfred Hetzel (article taken in 1970)?
[url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1083519/index.htm[/url]
[QUOTE]World's Greatest (and doubtless only) Freak Shot Expert Wilfred Hetzel, who was discharged from the Army in 1943 "for nervousness," is nervous now. In the assembly program at Ladysmith (Va.) High School this morning, the kids were a little restless, and his performance a little ragged. True, he hit over 70% of his gallimaufry of shots
[QUOTE=97 bulls]I'm going with mullin. He had arguably the sweetest shot in the game.[/QUOTE]
I agree and i'm the biggest larry bird homer of ALL TIMEEE
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I know the thread is about their shooting ability but as a sidenote, it's interesting to see that Mullin and Bird had many similarites in their games.
- Great shooters in all situations
- Subpar man defenders yet elite team defenders due to their anticipation and instinct. Mullin had those quick hands that resulted in steals.
- Very good passers. Mullin often used to point forward for the Warriors. Bird may not have brought the ball up the court but a lot of the Celtics offense initiated through him.
Mullin was actually compared to Bird in the early 90s. IIRC, it was around the time they were selected for the Dream TEAM.
Steve Nash
[QUOTE=NugzHeat3]I know the thread is about their shooting ability but as a sidenote, it's interesting to see that Mullin and Bird had many similarites in their games.
- Great shooters in all situations
- Subpar man defenders yet elite team defenders due to their anticipation and instinct. Mullin had those quick hands that resulted in steals.
- Very good passers. Mullin often used to point forward for the Warriors. Bird may not have brought the ball up the court but a lot of the Celtics offense initiated through him.
Mullin was actually compared to Bird in the early 90s. IIRC, it was around the time they were selected for the Dream TEAM.[/QUOTE]
Very, very similar. Bird had the quick hands as well, both had great court vision too. Think about how good Mullin would be if he was 6'9' like Bird? He would be able to get his shot off even easier than ever.
Possibly my favorite pass ever was one from Mullin when he was at St. John's. He was standing at the top of the key with both of his hands up calling for the ball and the pass goes to him and and without moving his arm, he just flicks his wrist and serves a perfect chest high pass to the 7 footer, Bill Wennington for a dunk.
[QUOTE=NugzHeat3]I know the thread is about their shooting ability but as a sidenote, it's interesting to see that Mullin and Bird had many similarites in their games.
- Great shooters in all situations
- Subpar man defenders yet elite team defenders due to their anticipation and instinct. Mullin had those quick hands that resulted in steals.
- Very good passers. Mullin often used to point forward for the Warriors. Bird may not have brought the ball up the court but a lot of the Celtics offense initiated through him.
Mullin was actually compared to Bird in the early 90s. IIRC, it was around the time they were selected for the Dream TEAM.[/QUOTE]
I actually think talent-wise, bird and mullin are tit-for-tat. Mullin just never had the teams good enough to win like bird
[QUOTE=97 bulls]I actually think talent-wise, bird and mullin are tit-for-tat. Mullin just never had the teams good enough to win like bird[/QUOTE]
Jesus, you're so obtuse. :oldlol: Mullin isn't even CLOSE to Bird in terms of talent, and I say that as a big Mullin fan (even played against him one time briefly when he visited Xaverian HS in Brooklyn back in the day).
Rick Mount'd kill em both. Just ask him.
[QUOTE=97 bulls]I actually think talent-wise, bird and mullin are tit-for-tat. Mullin just never had the teams good enough to win like bird[/QUOTE]
I love Mullin but you're nuts
[QUOTE=wally_world]Steve Nash[/QUOTE]
+1
Mr. 50-40-90 all day.
I guess I should qualified my point by saying as far as offensive offensive, mullin and bird are on par.
[QUOTE=97 bulls]I guess I should qualified my point by saying as far as offensive offensive, mullin and bird are on par.[/QUOTE]
once again not close.
to answer the thread, id take mullin. him and nash and maybe mitch richmond are the only guys id take over bird.
[QUOTE=97 bulls]I guess I should qualified my point by saying as far as offensive offensive, mullin and bird are on par.[/QUOTE]
:roll:
[QUOTE=catch24]:roll:[/QUOTE]
same guy who thinks pippen is just as good as lebron and wade if he played in this era. :oldlol:
thats who were dealing with.
[QUOTE=donald_trump]same guy who thinks pippen is just as good as lebron and wade if he played in this era. :oldlol:
thats who were dealing with.[/QUOTE]
I think james is better than pippen. I've said they're similar. But that conversation was about 2-3 years ago.
And yes, im firmly convinced that wade is extremely overrated. He hasn't done much of anything special past 06 and 09. He's overrated defensively, he's a product of the era he plays in due to the rule changes. He's limited offensively, and has underachieved his whole career.
[QUOTE=donald_trump]once again not close.
to answer the thread, id take mullin. him and nash and maybe mitch richmond are the only guys id take over bird.[/QUOTE]
Get the **** otta here. Lol not close...... They were essentailly the same type of player offensively.
Wow, did you ever watch a prime Larry Bird? He and Mullin weren't in the same universe, offensively or otherwise.
[QUOTE=97 bulls]Get the **** otta here. Lol not close...... They were essentailly the same type of player offensively.[/QUOTE]
This post only reassures your maturity. Admit it, you never watched them play.
Bird was [I]by far[/I] a better playmaker, and rebounder (offensive). As a scorer, Bird was definitely more effective and had a much bigger volume.
[QUOTE=catch24]This post only reassures your maturity. Admit it, you never watched them play.
Bird was [I]by far[/I] a better playmaker, and rebounder (offensive). As a scorer, Bird was definitely more effective and had a much bigger volume.[/QUOTE]
Why are you arguing with this tard? He makes horseshit statements every other day.
[QUOTE=juju151111]Why are you arguing with this tard? He makes horseshit statements every other day.[/QUOTE]
What can I say? It's fun correcting the young and misinformed.
You're right though. We're talking about the kid who'd draft Pippen over Magic in an NBA draft :lol
Lol I'm really getting under some of you guys skin. You guys remember stuff ive posted literrally years ago.
[QUOTE=Kobe 4 The Win]Wow, did you ever watch a prime Larry Bird? He and Mullin weren't in the same universe, offensively or otherwise.[/QUOTE]
Even if you feel bird is better offensively, they're not being in the same universe? That's taking it wayyyyy to far.
[QUOTE=97 bulls]Lol I'm really getting under some of you guys skin. You guys remember stuff ive posted literrally years ago.[/QUOTE]
You posted that stuff just a few weeks ago. Stop exaggerating.
At least backup what you say. All you really tend to do around here is throw wet-blanket statements trying to pass them off as fact. Not intelligent.
[QUOTE=catch24]What can I say? It's fun correcting the young and misinformed.
You're right though. We're talking about the kid who'd draft Pippen over Magic in an NBA draft :lol[/QUOTE]
Why does every thread that were in together revolve around my stance on pippen? I think I shed new light on how basketball is played and won and you can't deal with it. This is a bird/mullin thread. You want me to debate you on magic and pippen, I have no problem with it. And just know ill own you like I always do.
If not, let it go. Pippen beat magic on the biggest nba stage. Get over it. It unhealthy
[QUOTE=97 bulls]Why does every thread that were in together revolve around my stance on pippen? I think I shed new light on how basketball is played and won and you can't deal with it. This is a bird/mullin thread. You want me to debate you on magic and pippen, I have no problem with it. And just know ill own you like I always do.
If not, let it go. Pippen beat magic on the biggest nba stage. Get over it. It unhealthy[/QUOTE]
It's annoying that someone can have 5,000+ posts of hot garbage, and not be banned for it. That's all.
[QUOTE=catch24]You posted that stuff just a few weeks ago. Stop exaggerating.
At least backup what you say. All you really tend to do around here is throw wet-blanket statements trying to pass them off as fact. Not intelligent.[/QUOTE]
What stuff? Its the same thing. I post something and you bring up how I owned you in a scottie pippen debate.