Deron Williams plays first game that matters for his Turkish team

FIBA.com reports: In the first leg of their Qualifying Round tie with Dexia Mons Hainaut in Istanbul, Williams made just three of his 15 shots from the floor but ended up with 15 points as Besiktas won 78-70. He also handed out nine assists.

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In an European basketball game played in Turkey, 12 players played over 10 minutes in the game.

5 from Besiktas (the entire bench combined for 23 minutes)
7 from Mons (the rest of the team combined for 16 minutes)

11/12 of those players were Americans.

Besiktas:
Erwin Dudley (13 points/10 rebounds)
David Hawkins (9 points)
Deron Williams (15 points/9 assists)
Marcellus Kemp (24 points)
[U][I]Zoran Erceg (15 points/10 rebounds)[/I] - the only European player in the game to register more than 2 points and 4 rebounds.[/U]

Mons:
Quincy Taylor (12 points)
Warren Carter (11 points)
Ahmad Nivins (12 points)
Sean Singletary (4 points)
Shan Foster (3 points)
Justin Cage (13 points)
AJ Slaughter (11 points)
The rest of the team: 4 points


The final score: 78-70 Besiktas

[B]129/148 or 87% points in European basketball game in Turkey were scored by Americans.[/B] Might as well played this as a pickup game in DC.

Anyone else find this ironic? :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Grinder]In an European basketball game played in Turkey, 12 players played over 10 minutes in the game.

5 from Besiktas (the entire bench combined for 23 minutes)
7 from Mons (the rest of the team combined for 16 minutes)

11/12 of those players were Americans.

Besiktas:
Erwin Dudley (13 points/10 rebounds)
David Hawkins (9 points)
Deron Williams (15 points/9 assists)
Marcellus Kemp (24 points)
[U][I]Zoran Erceg (15 points/10 rebounds)[/I] - the only European player in the game to register more than 2 points and 4 rebounds.[/U]

Mons:
Quincy Taylor (12 points)
Warren Carter (11 points)
Ahmad Nivins (12 points)
Sean Singletary (4 points)
Shan Foster (3 points)
Justin Cage (13 points)
AJ Slaughter (11 points)
The rest of the team: 4 points


The final score: 78-70 Besiktas

[B]129/148 or 87% points in European basketball game in Turkey were scored by Americans.[/B] Might as well played this as a pickup game in DC.

Anyone else find this ironic? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]


I don

[QUOTE=bumpyknucks]I don

Deron Williams = potential Euroleague MVP?

still waiting for the mvp pic....

I would post the Red Dead Redemption script like I did in the other thread, but I don't want to get banned again :oldlol:

That is effed up. Most teams outside of USA limit foreign-born players on their rosters.

[QUOTE=swi7ch]That is effed up. Most teams outside of USA limit foreign-born players on their rosters.[/QUOTE]

Yep, looks like there's no limit in Belgium (and a few other countries) but there's a lot of ways of getting around it.

Erwin Dudley on D-Will's team has Turkish citizenship and goes by "Ersan Dagli" , so it helps get around the limit of non-EU/American players

Or take the team Gran Canaria in Spain, there's a limit of 2 or 3 non-EU players in Spain but they've got 5 Americans with other citizenships

Laurence Ekperigin (UK)
Spencer Nelson (Azerbaijan)
Taurean Green (Georgia)
Marquez Haynes (Georgia)
Michael Bramos (Greece)

[QUOTE=SpecialQue]Deron Williams = potential Euroleague MVP?[/QUOTE]


He struggled in his first game. Deron only shoot 3/15 from the field.

Anyone actually watch? Did Deron look as outta shape as Twitter (which never lies) says?

[QUOTE=SpecialQue]Deron Williams = potential Euroleague MVP?[/QUOTE]
Once again... he isn't playing Euroleague games, his team didn't qualify.

[QUOTE=Grinder]Yep, looks like there's no limit in Belgium (and a few other countries) but there's a lot of ways of getting around it.

Erwin Dudley on D-Will's team has Turkish citizenship and goes by "Ersan Dagli" , so it helps get around the limit of non-EU/American players

Or take the team Gran Canaria in Spain, there's a limit of 2 or 3 non-EU players in Spain but [B]they've got 5 Americans with other citizenships[/B]

Laurence Ekperigin (UK)
Spencer Nelson (Azerbaijan)
Taurean Green (Georgia)
Marquez Haynes (Georgia)
Michael Bramos (Greece)[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's common and sucks.
We got 3 in our roster, only two of them being considered non EU players.

well, you guys suck at soccer.

[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]Anyone actually watch? Did Deron look as outta shape as Twitter (which never lies) says?[/QUOTE]

Yeah he's a meatball.

More on the game:

[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=8354[/url]

15pts (3/15) ?

Euroleague :1
ISH:0

:lol

Does he look healthy? He mentioned offhand his wrist is still not 100% and he should be resting (which makes playing in Turkey just super logical).

This game had nothing to do with Euroleague.

[QUOTE=niko]Does he look healthy? He mentioned offhand his wrist is still not 100% and he should be resting (which makes playing in Turkey just super logical).[/QUOTE]

Based on his horrible play, he better hope he is not healthy.

35 Minutes

3-15 (20%) Field Goals
1-7 (14.3%) 3 Point Field Goals
8-8 (100%) Free Throws

15 Points
9 Assists
2 Rebounds

3 Steals
0 Blocks

4 Fouls
2 Turnovers


Box Score:


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[QUOTE=SpecialQue]Deron Williams = potential Euroleague MVP?[/QUOTE]

I believe he would actually have to play in the Euroleague (which he does not) to win that league's MVP award.

He would be going for the MVP award of the [B]Eurocup[/B].

[QUOTE=Grinder]Yep, looks like there's no limit in Belgium (and a few other countries) but there's a lot of ways of getting around it.

Erwin Dudley on D-Will's team has Turkish citizenship and goes by "Ersan Dagli" , so it helps get around the limit of non-EU/American players

Or take the team Gran Canaria in Spain, there's a limit of 2 or 3 non-EU players in Spain but they've got 5 Americans with other citizenships

Laurence Ekperigin (UK)
Spencer Nelson (Azerbaijan)
Taurean Green (Georgia)
Marquez Haynes (Georgia)
Michael Bramos (Greece)[/QUOTE]

I believe you can have something like 6 foreign players in Spain. You don't really have to worry about dual citizenship when you can have something like 6 foreign players on the roster.

And Bramos has Greek citizenship rights from the time he was born. Just like Americans are Americans from birth no matter where they are born on the planet, Greece has the same laws for Greeks.

You cannot even play for the Greek national team unless you have Greek family. That's why Batiste was never allowed to play for the Greek national team despite wanting to and having Greek citizenship eligibility.

So there is nothing shady or wrong at all about Bramos counting as a Greek on their roster.

[QUOTE=chains5000]Once again... he isn't playing Euroleague games, his team didn't qualify.[/QUOTE]

We have already explained this to the NBA fans here about 50 times. They don't seem to be listening. I will try to explain once more.

Deron Williams plays in Turkish League (national domestic competition) and Eurocup (European-wide competition). He does NOT play in the Euroleague.

[QUOTE=Euroleague]We have already explained this to the NBA fans here about 50 times. They don't seem to be listening. I will try to explain once more.

Deron Williams plays in Turkish League (national domestic competition) and Eurocup (European-wide competition). He does NOT play in the Euroleague.[/QUOTE]
How do you think he'd do in the Euroleague?

D-Will is the kind of PG that would do well in any kind of league, dude has hops, handles, quickness and great court vision. Also he's a good man and help defender.

[QUOTE=b1imtf]How do you think he'd do in the Euroleague?[/QUOTE]

To me it would definitely depend on what team he played on. If he played in an average or bad team I am sure he would eventually put up some good numbers, although I don't think his team would go beyond top 16 in such a scenario.

If he played in a a really big club, I don't think he would be that much of an impact player to be honest. Not in his first year. But he would probably have a chance to compete for the final four then.

He probably doesn't work out much that would explain why he's out of shape.

[QUOTE]Does he look healthy? He mentioned offhand his wrist is still not 100% and he should be resting (which makes playing in Turkey just super logical).[/QUOTE]

Last I heard he said the wrist was fine after he landed on it.
Why would he need rest for a wrist injury if it's healed? It's not a back or leg injury.

[QUOTE=niko]Does he look healthy? He mentioned offhand his wrist is still not 100% and he should be resting (which makes playing in Turkey just super logical).[/QUOTE]
I don't think he ever recovered from this...sad