Skip Bayless' and Stephen A. Smith's top 5

anyone?


thanks my friend pauk

[QUOTE=pauk]Skip

1. Wade

2. KD

3. Kobe

4. Dirk

5. Melo



Stephen

1. Wade

2. Kobe

3. Howard

4. Dirk

5. KD


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Makes no sense whatsoever............

If they want Finals + Championship.... then they should have Dirk better than #4 wouldnt they??

If they want who was the best player the entire year overall.... then i would assume Lebron would be at least #5? hahahahah


And the best part.... KOBE/DURANT/MELO.... tell me... just ONE thing... ONE THING they had over Lebron last year... just ONE THING.... thats all i ask.......... could be anything.... ANYTHING...[/QUOTE]

I applaud Skip for at least not having Dwight in the list. If you are going to be consistent, I really don

How in the hell is Kobe a Top 10 player, When 38 year old Jason Kidd SHUT HIM DOWN :facepalm

And Dwight Howard is underrated.

[QUOTE=shaq's--lakers]How in the hell is Kobe a Top 10 player, When 38 year old [B]Jason Kidd SHOOT HIM DOWN.
[/B]
And Dwight Howard is underrated.[/QUOTE]


I've never actually seen Jason Kidd "shoot" anybody down but never the less i

suppose you meant to say "shut" which i guess is easily mistaken for shoot? :confusedshrug:

Anyways, going by your logic Lebron is not a top ten player in the NBA then right?

i feel sorry for the poor saps who think skip bayless and stephen a smith's opinions on sports are actually threadworthy or merits worth a discussion.

[QUOTE=DuMa]i feel sorry for the poor saps who think skip bayless and stephen a smith's opinions on sports are actually threadworthy or merits worth a discussion.[/QUOTE]

No worse than the goofs who compiled that list yesterday..whom also work for ESPN.

[QUOTE=catch24]No worse than the goofs who compiled that list yesterday..whom also work for ESPN.[/QUOTE]

ESPN's "expert" opinions can go to the trash can, period.

can you at least tell us their picks?

Skip Bayless Top 5:

1. Not Lebron
2. Not Lebron
3. Not Lebron
4. Not Lebron
5. Carmelo or Kobe

[QUOTE=catch24]No worse than the goofs who compiled that list yesterday..whom also work for ESPN.[/QUOTE]

61 experts >>>>>>>>>>>> 2 "experts", 1 idiot and 1 strict lebron hater with no basketball knowledge whats over

Where did they rank Dirk?

[QUOTE=inclinerator]can you at least tell us their picks?[/QUOTE]

Skip

1. Wade

2. KD

3. Kobe

4. Dirk

5. Melo



Stephen

1. Wade

2. Kobe

3. Howard

4. Dirk

5. KD


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Makes no sense whatsoever............

If they want Finals + Championship.... then they should have Dirk better than #4 wouldnt they??

If they want who was the best player the entire year overall.... then i would assume Lebron would be at least #5? hahahahah


And the best part.... KOBE/DURANT/MELO.... tell me... just ONE thing... ONE THING they had over Lebron last year... just ONE THING.... thats all i ask.......... could be anything.... ANYTHING...

Did Skip really have Melo in the Top 5? :facepalm

Steven A's list is a bit more accurate but I'd replace Kobe with LeBron and move Dwight and Dirk up one spot each.

i think its maybe their top 5 favorite players........ or else it doesnt make sense..... seriously... this is absolutely horrible...


if that isnt the case... then they must be banned from the network immediately for this crap.. they call themselves reporters? :facepalm






EDIT: JUST NOTICED SKIP DOESNT HAVE DWIGHT HOWARD ANYWHERE.......... HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH



NO ****ING WAY.... THIS IS ONLY THEIR TOP 5 FAVORITE PLAYERS LIST.....

Hahahahahahhahahahahah

I.... Just... Cant... I Dont Even...




shoot me please

The only person i can see why'd you have at #1 besides Lebron is Wade. And that's if you were one of the people who belived he was better since 08( Thought he was better in 08 but Lebron was better the next season) Still it's obvious Lebron is the best at the moment.

Skip

1. Wade
2. KD
3. Kobe
4. Dirk
5. Melo

Stephen

1. Wade
2. Kobe
3. Howard
4. Dirk
5. KD

I agree with keeping Lebron out of the top-5, but that doesn't mean they've got everything right.

Howard was the best player last season. His team was really messed up, and that's why they lost (losed for pauk's comprehension) in the first round. Unlike someone else, he didn't choke. And he was more valuable to his team than any player, not named Rose.

Damn Pauk is hurt bro

[QUOTE=pegasus]Skip

1. Wade
2. KD
3. Kobe
4. Dirk
5. Melo

Stephen

1. Wade
2. Kobe
3. Howard
4. Dirk
5. KD

I agree with keeping Lebron out of the top-5, but that doesn't mean they've got everything right.

[B]Howard was the best player last season. His team was really messed up, and that's why they lost (losed for pauk's comprehension) in the first round. Unlike someone else, he didn't choke. And he was more valuable to his team than any player, not named Rose[/B].[/QUOTE]


Yet I'm willing to bet on the fact that you criticized LeBron for his lack of success in 09, despite his team being abysmal throughout the playoffs.

If you really think LeBron isn't a top 5 player in basketball right now; I'm not sure you have any ability whatsoever to analyze the game and rely solely on knee-jerk reactions.

Dwight averaged 5.5 turnovers in that series; I don't even want to think about the hate you'd dish out had LeBron done something similar. I've seen it before from plenty of you and all it does it make you lose any credibility you thought you had.

For me, u can't deny Bron in the top 5 or arguably the best. Even though he ain't as clutch as say Wade or Kobe, he's the best all around player in the L AND gets u 30 a night. I think Bron is more clutch and takeover than many think. But he's not the level of killer Kobe, Dirk, or Wade are. People just forget that epic fourth quarter against the Pistons a few years ago. That tells u right there Bron has what it takes. But I admit he's not on Kobe or Wade's level right now in terms of that.

I frankly don't have a problem with Wade over Bron. Because before Kobe slowed some, I would have taken him over Bron. And Wade is very close to a peak Kobe in my book. So I can live with that. But other than Wade, I'm not taking anybody over Bron at this point. However, Wade, Kobe, Dirk, Durant, and Melo are higher on the killer food chain than Bron at this point. My top 10 would be like this:

1. Bron
2. Wade
3. Kobe
4. Dirk
5. Howard
6. Melo
7. Durant
8. Paul
9. DWill
10.Rose

While Lebron might not be a proven winner yet, despite playing on arguably the most talented team in the NBA... it's not even arguable that he's not Top 5.

I mean seriously, the only thing the guy hasn't been able to do in his NBA career is win. Plenty of stars in the NBA haven't been able to win, and a couple of them are in their Top 5's.... named KD, Dwight, and Melo.

Lebron has gotten further than these players in the playoffs.

While he might not have earned the Best player in the league title through championships, he's won at least Top 5 through his stats alone.

Let's just say, no stars with no titles should be considered better than Lebron... at the very LEAST.

Any list with Lebron not being #1 is accurate

not sure is serious. kobe melo dwight lol?

maybe its a players youd take to win a ring list?

No Allen Iverson in Stephen A. Smith's list??

:eek:

I don't think he's no. 1 but not top 5 is ridiculous. I have him behind Dirk, Wade, and Howard but ahead of Durant, Rose, and Kobe.

The main reason he's not no. 1 is cause of his epic disappearances at the worst times the last few years. His advantages in on-court ability don't outweigh that against Dirk, Wade, and Howard IMO, but it does against Durant, Rose, and Kobe.

Someone mentioned the Detroit game. Its funny cause although he deservedly gets flack for being such a choke artist the past few years, that was probably the most clutch game of any active player. I don't think Kobe, Wade, Dirk, or Melo have ever had as clutch of a game/moment as that.

[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]maybe its a players youd take to win a ring list?[/QUOTE]

yeah I would take melo, ancient kobe and dwight over lebron to win a ring.

/sarcasm

[QUOTE=L8kersfan222]Damn Pauk is hurt bro[/QUOTE]

nope... i just dont see any logic / sense....

[B]Carmelo? [/B]ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ON LEBRON... in any shape or form.. makes no sense

[B]Wade?[/B] He had NOTHING over Lebron... except 3 better games in the Finals.. woopedidoooo... makes no sense

[B]Kobe?[/B] ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ON LEBRON... in any shape or form.. can you give ONE reason to why he should be ranked higher than Lebron right now? Tell me......... i would be glad to hear... once again makes no sense

[B]Dirk?[/B] FINALS + CHAMPIONSHIP... the only logical choice to ARGUE over Lebron... but he is #4 on both lists.. which once again makes no sense..

[B]Dwight?[/B] HAD SOMETHING ON LEBRON... but he isnt even on Skips list... which once again makes no sense


its no different then going:

1. Delonte West
2. Joel Anthony
3. Mario Chalmers
4. Anderson Varejao
5. Jose Calderon




Im just discusted that such brainfunctions can exist amongst humans (or more like not not exist)

2 clowns trying to rank the best

:roll: :roll: :roll:

i remember back in 06 kobe was averaging 40+ a month! and stephen didnt have him in his top 5.

[QUOTE=asdf1990]yeah I would take melo, ancient kobe and dwight over lebron to win a ring.

/sarcasm[/QUOTE]

Replace Lebron with any of those players last year, and Miami wins it all. And I'm not just talking about the finals.

[QUOTE=pmj]I applaud Skip for at least not having Dwight in the list. If you are going to be consistent, I really don

[QUOTE=pegasus]Replace Lebron with any of those players last year, and Miami wins it all. And I'm not just talking about the finals.[/QUOTE]

what good would Kobrick do when he against that same team got swept, early... and he had the most stacked team in the NBA being defending champions...

what good would Carmelo do when he chokes in the playoffs 24-7, he has not won a playoff series in his life (well ok, he won 1 yay).... and in all of those first round exits he couldnt win he got swept in almost all of them... when you think of Carmelo.. you think of a choking first round exit...

and durant... dont even get me started...



SKIP KNOWS WHO IS THE BEST... SMITH KNOWS IT.... EVEN YOU KNOW IT..... BUT THE HATRED PREVAILS..... ALWAYS...

[QUOTE=pauk]what good would Kobrick do when he against that same team got swept, early... and he had the most stacked team in the NBA being defending champions...

what good would Carmelo do when he chokes in the playoffs 24-7, he has not won a playoff series in his life (well ok, he won 1 yay).... and in all of those first round exits he couldnt win he got swept in almost all of them... when you think of Carmelo.. you think of a choking first round exit...

and durant... dont even get me started...



SKIP KNOWS WHO IS THE BEST... SMITH KNOWS IT.... EVEN YOU KNOW IT..... BUT THE HATRED PREVAILS..... ALWAYS...[/QUOTE]

LOL just like pierce not winning a series but when he got a team, he won it all. You consider lebron better than pierce but how come pierce won. Oh stats, and only idiots are fooled by stats. Statistically lebron is better than dirk and pierce, but they won.

[QUOTE=knicksman]LOL just like pierce not winning a series but when he got a team, his TEAM won it all. You consider lebron better than pierce but how come his TEAM won. Oh stats, talent, skill, productions, domination, accomplishments, and only idiots are fooled by that. Statistically, talent, productions, domination lebron is better than dirk and pierce, but their TEAM WON.[/QUOTE]

fixed... that will also answer your own delusional question

[QUOTE=pauk]fixed... that will also answer your own delusional question[/QUOTE]

allen and garnett were acquired in a trade so it follows that they have worse bench than miami. Worse bench equals worse team yet they won. This just shows that stats are for idiots who cant analyze beyond stats.

Anyone that believes Carmelo over Rose has no credibility and is underrating rose there. He made knick fans forget who carmelo even was.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gCrnrk9HI[/url]

[QUOTE=asdf1990]yeah I would take melo, ancient kobe and dwight over lebron to win a ring.

/sarcasm[/QUOTE]

give me dwight or kobe over lebron to win a chip anyday

[QUOTE=knicksman]Thats the reason why hes better than lebron coz hes alot like paul pierce. And paul pierce won in their first year and lebron didnt so meaning [B]pierce is better than lebron.[/B] perimeter players who cant shoot doesnt win in this league. Wade was just gifted 30+ free throws to win his title. So until lebron can shoot, he will always have those 4th quarters. Jordan, kobe, bird can shoot.

And durant performed better than lebron against mavs so why would he be better than lebron?[/QUOTE]
C'mon man you can't seriously believe that. I've watched Pierce for years, going way back to the beginning with him and Antoine Walker. Pierce is a good player, but he is nowhere near the caliber LeBron is. He wasn't even the best player on that Boston team when they won.

There is far too much emphasis placed on championships. I mean they're important judging players overall resume, but in no way can they be used to justify picking Paul Pierce over LeBron. Could Paul Pierce have taken a Cavs team to the finals? Considering a Paul Pierce led team couldn't beat the early 2000s Nets, I highly doubt it. The hate for LeBron is ridiculous, I mean a lot of it is warranted but some people put on some complete blinders when judging him now.

Skip and SAs must post on ISH after listening to them breakdown their top 5.

[QUOTE=pmj]I applaud Skip for at least not having Dwight in the list. If you are going to be consistent, I really don