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We've been hearing for a long time that the 2012 draft is going to be the strongest one in recent years, but will it really be so? From what I've read many of the top prospects are leaning toward returning to school (MKG, Drummond...)i, and if that happens we're just gonna have another average draft class....
[QUOTE=Salazaar]We've been hearing for a long time that the 2012 draft is going to be the strongest one in recent years, but will it really be so? From what I've read many of the top prospects are leaning toward returning to school (MKG, Drummond...)i, and if that happens we're just gonna have another average draft class....[/QUOTE]
No we're not going to have an average draft class. You might want to read stuff thats dated March 30th 2012 and not Jan 3rd 2012.
[QUOTE=GOBB]No we're not going to have an average draft class. You might want to read stuff thats dated March 30th 2012 and not Jan 3rd 2012.[/QUOTE]
What d'ya mean? Not much has changed since January in terms of whether this draft will be strong or not... Btw I'm not talking about the talent in college, but how many players will actually declare for the draft, because I've read (as of March 30th) that some projected top picks wanna go back to school..
No its not a great draft- talent evaluation is hard but its easy to repeat something. People have been told so many times that its a great draft that they believe it
A lot of times teams early in the draft esp need a scorer- there might not be a player in the draft who will be a teams #1 option scoring - maybe mkg on the right (wrong) team
There may be good depth and the ability to grab good players in the 20's or 2nd round but 3-10 isn't going to help you team too much to get out of that spot
This is one of those years without clear cut tiers that the scouts will either earn their money or possibly look stupid- whoever picks Jared Cunningham will look like a genius
[QUOTE=Salazaar]What d'ya mean? Not much has changed since January in terms of whether this draft will be strong or not... Btw I'm not talking about the talent in college, but how many players will actually declare for the draft, because I've read (as of March 30th) that some projected top picks wanna go back to school..[/QUOTE]
MKG is coming out for the draft... and drummond would be an idiot if he went back. not just the fact that he is a top 5 pick, but also because of how much trouble connecticut is in right now.
2011 had a great set of 6th man style role-players that can help a team win.
2012 has a draft of IMPACT guys at SF-C.
Robinson is slightly undersized but very athletic and can be a 16-10 player
Davis is a franchise changer who in couple years can turn your team from 30 wins to 50-55 wins.
Kidd-Gilchrist premier SF with athletiscm, and great defensive potential.
Drummond has the body and athletiscm of a Deandre Jordan who can give you double doubles.
Then u got players like Marshall who can be Andre Miller young.
Harrison barnes- a jumpshooting 6'8 swingman with good athletiscm who will score regardless
Austin Rivers who can be in that Monta Ellis Brandon Jennings scoring ability.
I think this is the perfect draft to get a legit front court player and SF.
[QUOTE=Salazaar]What d'ya mean? Not much has changed since January in terms of whether this draft will be strong or not... Btw I'm not talking about the talent in college, but how many players will actually declare for the draft, because I've read (as of March 30th) that some projected top picks wanna go back to school..[/QUOTE]
I mean you should tell me what top prospects are going back to school. Only guy that qualifies is the PG from Texas.
Harrison Barnes, Austin Rivers, Meyers Leonard, Kendall Marshall, John Henson have declared.
[QUOTE=GOBB]I mean you should tell me what top prospects are going back to school. Only guy that qualifies is the PG from Texas.
Harrison Barnes, Austin Rivers, Meyers Leonard, Kendall Marshall, John Henson have declared.[/QUOTE]
Of the players you mentioned only Barnes is projected top 10. I'm not gonna tell you who's coming back to school but you're not gonna tell me which top 10 players will declare either.. There are a lot of freshman that can simply want to go back to develop their game and be more nba-ready..
[QUOTE=Salazaar]Of the players you mentioned only Barnes is projected top 10. I'm not gonna tell you who's coming back to school but you're not gonna tell me which top 10 players will declare either.. There are a lot of freshman that can simply want to go back to develop their game and be more nba-ready..[/QUOTE]
Doesnt matter, you asked if the 2012 draft will be good. I just threw out first rd prospects. Not only is the draft considered strong but deep.
The deadline for players to declare isnt nowhere near. You'll hear more and more players start to declare for the draft. Not sure why you even believe players returning to school earlier in the season. They all say it then leave.
Kentucky just won the national title. Expect those kids to start declaring for the draft. I'll be back in this thread to constantly update it ok?
Sullinger just declared for the draft.
I think it's more comparable to the 2004 Draft than the 2003 Draft.
You'll get good players like Deng, Iguodala, Al Jefferson, Devin Harris, Josh Smith, Nelson, Kevin Martin, etc and solid role players like Ariza, JR Smith, Duhon, Varejao, Humphries, Biedrins, etc. But only one player, Dwight Howard, will have superstar impact on his team.
Does anybody know if Wroten is coming out? Had lots of hype in HS. Got injured and than looked like he recovered pretty well. Looked good in college from what I saw. Freshmen, good size something like 6'5, 6'6 and actually looks like he can play point. Explosive.
Haven't heard any lotto talk with him in it, so I'm assuming he's going back to school?
[QUOTE=NuggetsFan]Does anybody know if Wroten is coming out? Had lots of hype in HS. Got injured and than looked like he recovered pretty well. Looked good in college from what I saw. Freshmen, good size something like 6'5, 6'6 and actually looks like he can play point. Explosive.
Haven't heard any lotto talk with him in it, so I'm assuming he's going back to school?[/QUOTE]
He should- he and Jared Cunningham are the best pgs in the draft- if wroten hadn't gone to the pac10 he is considered a top 10 pick right now
[QUOTE=NuggetsFan]Does anybody know if Wroten is coming out? Had lots of hype in HS. Got injured and than looked like he recovered pretty well. Looked good in college from what I saw. Freshmen, good size something like 6'5, 6'6 and actually looks like he can play point. Explosive.
Haven't heard any lotto talk with him in it, so I'm assuming he's going back to school?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskybasketball/2017902240_wroten04.html?prmid=head_main[/url]
He's in the draft
I feel that this will be one of those drafts that produces a lot of players that, while perhaps not big stars, are good palyers that you will watch for many years.
[URL="http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/18325360/uconn-banned-from-postseason-in-2013-due-to-poor-academic-standing"]Chances of Drummond and Lamb bolting are great[/URL]
Read link. Two more prospects that will go. Why would they stay after this violation? Think about it.
So 2012 will continue to shape up and look to be that good. We'll wait confirmation though. Dont want to hear about what they said in Jan 2012 however. :no:
I wouldn't be surprised if Drummond stayed at UConn.
[QUOTE=UConnCeltics]I wouldn't be surprised if Drummond stayed at UConn.[/QUOTE]
For what?
[URL="http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7792384/kansas-jayhawks-thomas-robinson-forgo-senior-year-enter-nba-draft"]Thomas Robinson makes it official[/URL]
[QUOTE=GOBB]For what?[/QUOTE]
Develop an offensive game. And apparently he genuinely enjoys being at UConn. I think he should leave though.
[url]http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-men/hc-uconn-jeremy-lamb-nba-20120410,0,2004083.story[/url]
Lamb is leaving
Mason Plumlee, Cody Zeller, Quincy Miller are returning to school.
Perry Jones is leaving.
Drummond is going to declare for the Draft.
Anyone got any updates on Beal is he going to declare?
[QUOTE=KingJames99]Drummond is going to declare for the Draft.
Anyone got any updates on Beal is he going to declare?[/QUOTE]
Beal declared this morning
[URL="http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7809114/florida-gators-freshman-bradley-beal-enter-nba-draft"]Beal enters draft[/URL]
Draft is looking to be that good.
All that is left is Kentuckys Anthony Davis, MGK, T.Jones.
[QUOTE]Of the players you mentioned only Barnes is projected top 10. I'm not gonna tell you who's coming back to school but you're not gonna tell me which top 10 players will declare either.. [B]There are a lot of freshman that can simply want to go back to develop their game and be more nba-ready..[/B][/QUOTE]
Like who?
April 15th and so far you now know the players who have declared for the NBA draft. I told you, dont read into stuff said in Jan. We see it every year.
[QUOTE=Black Joker]Beal declared this morning[/QUOTE]
Beal declared immediately following the Louisville loss. :lol
[QUOTE=Salazaar]We've been hearing for a long time that the 2012 draft is going to be the strongest one in recent years, but will it really be so? From what I've read many of the top prospects are leaning toward returning to school (MKG, Drummond...)i, and if that happens we're just gonna have another average draft class....[/QUOTE]
[url]http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7825727/kentucky-wildcats-starting-five-leaving-school-nba[/url]
this draft is very deep IMO... it's not top heavy. but through the entire first round I see players that can be contributors to very good players.
[QUOTE=GOBB]Mason Plumlee, Cody Zeller, Quincy Miller are returning to school.
Perry Jones is leaving.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/58346/quincy-miller-goes-pro-after-all"]miller changed his mind[/URL]
[QUOTE=chips93][URL="http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/58346/quincy-miller-goes-pro-after-all"]miller changed his mind[/URL][/QUOTE]
Holy moly, thats crazy. Sixers can get a good prospect dispite not being in the lottery. Awesome.