Wade is holding Lebron back...

...there i said it...

especially in the 4th quarter...

sorry if i hurt somebodies feelings.. but this is true...

Obviously, Miami Heat is probably better with Wade in there aswell...

Lebron sacrificed his typical video game performances & numbers teaming up with Wade...

Its a sacrifice for a Championship......

But boy do i hope he wins a Championship.... because if he doesnt then what he sacrificed all in all coming in to Miami was really not worth it... becoming hated, losing alot of fans, losing money and losing his video game performances......... many of us miss that Cleveland Lebron... and he cant be that guy so often with a super balldominant perimeter player at his side...

I hope that sacrifice was worth it.... you better win a championship! :D

lol @ pauk preparing excuse for tomorrow's letdown. :oldlol:

Dumb thread, but I hope this somehow develops into a hate between Wade and James so the Heat gets cold in the playoffs

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[QUOTE=SFMF]Dumb thread, but I hope this somehow develops into a hate between Wade and James so the Heat gets cold in the playoffs[/QUOTE]

So... you dont think that Wade & Lebron are holding eachother back? Care to explain?

Has nothing to do with hate... its no secret they are holding eachother back, but they do it for the better good... for better team success... for a championship... because Miami Heat sure is better with those two playing... there is pros & cons with throwing in two balldominant superstar players together....

Opinions based on 1 game. Usually a flawless formula.

LeBron, and only LeBron holds himself back.

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Yeah, but thats what happens when you team up with a player just as good as you. They are both holding each other, and Bosh back. They play best together when they are both attacking instead of one sitting back watching while the other is attacking. It is something they have yet to figure out and I don't understand why. As long as it leads to the Heat winning more championships, I am all for it.

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Opinions based on 1 game. Usually a flawless formula.[/QUOTE]

The Heat are 9-1 without Wade, and Lebron and Bosh always play better without him out there, so...

What the hell are you talking about? They definitely weren't holding each other back against the Celtics and Bulls in the playoffs last year... Do you not remember LeBron and Wade have amazing games in the SAME series? Of course they aren't as productive because they're not the only main ball-handlers, but there is no way in hell that this Heat team that played tonight could win a title without Wade. Plus it was against the Sixers man. The Heat destroyed the Sixers the previous 2 times they met, WITH Wade. :facepalm

like i have said before, it's easier to dominate with one guy but the payoff is better if you can make it work with both of them.

Wade's decline (??) may be a factor right now though.

[QUOTE=Heavincent]The Heat are 9-1 without Wade, and Lebron and Bosh always play better without him out there, so...[/QUOTE]


There is No argument there..

[QUOTE=Heavincent]The Heat are 9-1 without Wade, and Lebron and Bosh always play better without him out there, so...[/QUOTE]

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Wade is the 2nd best SG of all time... lebron can only hope to be half the finals performer he is

[QUOTE=EnoughSaid]What the hell are you talking about? They definitely weren't holding each other back against the Celtics and Bulls in the playoffs last year... Do you not remember LeBron and Wade have amazing games in the SAME series? Of course they aren't as productive because they're not the only main ball-handlers, but there is no way in hell that this Heat team that played tonight could win a title without Wade. Plus it was against the Sixers man. The Heat destroyed the Sixers the previous 2 times they met, WITH Wade. :facepalm[/QUOTE]

I agree... but like i said... Miami is better with them two together playing...

its no secret they are holding eachother back, but they do it for the better good... for better team success... for a championship... because Miami Heat sure is better with those two playing... there is pros & cons with throwing in two balldominant superstar players together....

What do i mean with they are holding eachother back? Very simple.... Lebron without Wade would have much higher usange rating, more FG attempts, more points etc.... and most importantly many more clutch moments.... same deal with Wade if Lebron was not playing....

Talk about overreaction already........if Wade is holding Lebron back, ship Lebron' @ss to some other team. Wade owns the Heat, not Lebron......

On a civilized note....overreaction.

[QUOTE=PJR]LeBron, and only LeBron holds himself back.[/QUOTE]

and his hairline

how many times have i said this before and have been rediculed for it? lebron doesnt like playing with big brother wade.

[QUOTE=PickernRoller]Talk about overreaction already........if Wade is holding Lebron back, ship Lebron to some other team. Wade owns the Heat, not Lebron....stupid ass homers...[/QUOTE]

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Yeah. If LeBron wanted to keep putting up amazing stats and not having anyone hold him back, he would have STAYED in Cleveland. He joined WADE to be able to compete. To be able to win a god-damn title for crying out loud. I'm sure LeBron doesn't care that he's not as productive when he's with Wade.

[QUOTE=Doctor Rivers]Wade is the 2nd best SG of all time[/QUOTE]

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Wade is overrated.
I bet if you put LeBron with any other player, they'd manage to play great together.
And people have him top 5. :facepalm

[QUOTE=pauk]What do i mean with they are holding eachother back? Very simple.... Lebron without Wade would have much higher usange rating, more FG attempts, more points etc.... [B]and most importantly many more clutch moments.... [/B][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=PickernRoller]Talk about overreaction already........if Wade is holding Lebron back, ship Lebron to some other team. Wade owns the Heat, not Lebron....stupid ass homers...[/QUOTE]


Lebron is the better Player and in all truth I wish they traded Wade for D12(I know they never Would) but that would get Lebron his 6 or 7 championships.. Wade and Lebron in the halfcourt is like Oil and Water..

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]Lebron is the better Player and in all truth I wish they traded Wade for D12(I know they never Would) but that would get Lebron his 6 or 7 championships.. Wade and Lebron in the halfcourt is like Oil and Water..[/QUOTE]

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Lebron just scored 15 points in the 4th quarter, closed out the game, hitting key shots...... and that is called clutch......
Lebron would have much less or maybe even NONE in the 4th quarter if Wade was playing..... and would be called "choker" instead...

This same thing happened each game this season Lebron played without Wade.....

Thats the way Lebron is "held back"...

Its not like Lebron all of the sudden became CLUTCH, it was always in him...... its that he doesnt have to share the ball and sit like a statue watching Wade dominate the ball anymore...... he doesnt have to be in that "MY TURN - YOUR TURN" offense anymore...

[QUOTE=pauk]Lebron just scored [B]14 points[/B] in the 4th quarter, closed out the game, hitting key shots...... and that is called clutch......
Lebron would have much less or maybe even NONE in the 4th quarter if Wade was playing..... and would be called "choker" instead...

This same thing happened each game this season Lebron played without Wade.....

Thats the way Lebron is "held back"...

Its not like Lebron all of the sudden became CLUTCH....... its that he doesnt have to share the ball and sit like a statue watching Wade do his thing anymore......[/QUOTE]


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Ain't nothing more entertaining than sitting back watching a few idiot Heat fans and Lebron dickriders argue about the most stupidest shit. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=pauk]Lebron just scored 14 points in the 4th quarter, closed out the game, hitting key shots...... and that is called clutch......
Lebron would have much less or maybe even NONE in the 4th quarter if Wade was playing..... and would be called "choker" instead...

This same thing happened each game this season Lebron played without Wade.....

Thats the way Lebron is "held back"...

Its not like Lebron all of the sudden became CLUTCH, it was always in him...... its that he doesnt have to share the ball and sit like a statue watching Wade do his thing anymore......[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Kingwillball]Lebron is the better Player and in all truth I wish they traded Wade for D12(I know they never Would) but that would get Lebron his 6 or 7 championships.. Wade and Lebron in the halfcourt is like Oil and Water..[/QUOTE]

Wow boy, talk about dickriding high............no loyalty at all wtf...so Lebron comes to this team via Wade and now you want Wade to be traded for D12?????? How about Bron traded for D12.......your boy can thrive in Magic uniform right??? Seen it all from these homers....

Homerism.....worse than ph@g0tism...

Bron should hve stayed in Cleveland.....his homers are just nuts....

So let me get this straight. Did you actually think that LeBron and Wade would be putting up career highs in all categories? Of course playing with another dominant player is going to lower your averages, but for what? TO ****ING WIN A TITLE! This isn't about LeBron's 4th quarter moments, or how many points he puts up, it's all about winning. And the Heat won't get past the Magic or Bulls without Wade. :no:

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]Lebron is the better Player and in all truth I wish they traded Wade for D12(I know they never Would) but that would get Lebron his 6 or 7 championships.. Wade and Lebron in the halfcourt is like Oil and Water..[/QUOTE]

lolol

Pauk and kingwill :oldlol:

Pauk and his "..."

Trade Wade for Dwight and Bosh for Love.

Trade Battier for a bag of condoms.

[QUOTE=pauk]Lebron just scored 15 points in the 4th quarter, closed out the game, hitting key shots...... and that is called clutch......
Lebron would have much less or maybe even NONE in the 4th quarter if Wade was playing..... and would be called "choker" instead...

This same thing happened each game this season Lebron played without Wade.....

Thats the way Lebron is "held back"...

Its not like Lebron all of the sudden became CLUTCH, it was always in him...... its that he doesnt have to share the ball and sit like a statue watching Wade dominate the ball anymore...... he doesnt have to be in that "MY TURN - YOUR TURN" offense anymore...[/QUOTE]
He wouldn't have to stand like a statue if he learnt how to play off ball...

[QUOTE=SpecialQue]Trade Wade for Dwight and Bosh for Love.

Trade Battier for a bag of condoms.[/QUOTE]


Actually Bosh would Work Well with D12 since he is a Jump shooting Big and would not Clog the paint for D12..

Just put LeBron at point guard. Start this lineup: Bron, Wade, Battier, Bosh and Turiaf. Have Chalmers gone for point, Miller for SG and James Jones for SF. I don't know why Spoelstra plays LeBron as a SF. Make him a point guard dammit!

Nobody put a gun to his head (unless Pat Riley was doing it off camera :( )

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