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Brad Beal
Everybody saying that Brad Beal is going to be the next Ray Allen. I watched him and to me he plays like a taller Eric Gordon.
That have him listed at 6'3. Beal said he has grown 2 inches so he is around 6'4-6'5.
I really would like to see him go to the Cvas and team up with Kyrie Irving.
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his height does concern me, and i'd like to see what his pre-draft measurements are.
if cleveland gets a top three pick i dont think we should take him.
as a cavs fan, i'm pro harrison barnes. i just think he will mesh good with irving and we need a SF. he could end up the next marvin williams or he could end up the next great small forward.
i think andre drummond is another deandre jordan so i don't like him.
either barnes or beal is good with me though.
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I dont see Ray Allen when I watch Brad Beal. Starting to hate that comparison.
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[QUOTE=GOBB]I dont see Ray Allen when I watch Brad Beal. Starting to hate that comparison.[/QUOTE]
Anybody that makes that comparison has never watched him play.
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I agree with the OP. I don't see Ray Allen much. And I've thought Eric Gordon going back to his HS days. Gordon is a little shorter than ideal too. Both have physical bodies though. Both are plus catch and shoot guys. I actually think Beal has a little more in terms of ball skills, meaning ball handling and passing and just general court vision.
It's one of the reasons I agree that he's not the ideal fit in Cleveland because you're going to lose some of his assets with an on ball PG next to him like that. A more pure lane filler and catch and shoot guy like Barnes to me is a better fit, especially because he brings so much more size, even though I actually think in a vaccum Beal may be a slightly better player.
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I like the comparison to Eric Gordon better than Ray Allen too. Beal seems to have a little more length than Gordon which I think helps negate the inch or two he is missing from protoypical SG size.
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This article says he's grown to 6'4-6'5
[url]http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Bradley-Beal-5759/[/url]
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HMMM mitch ritchmond??? better defender though.
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[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]I like the comparison to Eric Gordon better than Ray Allen too. Beal seems to have a little more length than Gordon which I think helps negate the inch or two he is missing from protoypical SG size.[/QUOTE]
I doubt Beal has more length. Gordon is 6'2 and has a 6'9 wingspan.
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Yup. Beal even if he grew an inch has a smaller wingspan at 6'7. Eric Gordon is stronger, more athletic AND lengthier. Basically I highly doubt Beal is similar to Eric Gordon. Gordon is a pretty damn good defender.
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Eric Gordon is not stronger, Brad Beal can rebound like a boss look at his scouting videos
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[QUOTE=brandonislegend]Eric Gordon is not stronger, Brad Beal can rebound like a boss look at his scouting videos[/QUOTE]
Eric Gordon has 15 reps on the bench which is PF/C numbers. I've seen him outmuscle Ron Artest many times in a game. Not to .mention he weighs 220 plus (more tha Beal) despite being shorter. Beal will be lucky to put up 7 reps of 200 pounds at the combine
Rebounding has nothing to do with strength in Gordon's case. He simply never crashes the boards.
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It's too bad basketball is all about core and legs. You probably don't play thats why you think reps matter
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Eric Gordon has 15 reps on the bench which is PF/C numbers. I've seen him outmuscle Ron Artest many times in a game. Not to .mention he weighs 220 plus (more tha Beal) despite being shorter. Beal will be lucky to put up 7 reps of 200 pounds at the combine
Rebounding has nothing to do with strength in Gordon's case. He simply never crashes the boards.[/QUOTE]
I bet you every 80% of power forwards/centers can outbench Kevin Love, but he is still stronger because he has a strong core and knows how to use it. Same with Beal compared to Eric Gordon
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[QUOTE=brandonislegend]I bet you every 80% of power forwards/centers can outbench Kevin Love, but he is still stronger because he has a strong core and knows how to use it. Same with Beal compared to Eric Gordon[/QUOTE]
I understand core and Eric Gordon is built like a tank. Have you seen him slash to the rim and finish with contact over bigs his entire career? There is a reason some have compared him to Wade. Trust me when I say Beal is NOT stronger and in no way PERIOD is he a better prospect outside of rebounding.
Shorter wingspan, slower, weaker, less athletic, worse scorer, worse defender. Eric Gordon is 6'2 220+ pounds with a 6'9 wingspan, 40 inch vertical and superb sprint and agility times. Not to mention before the drama off the court at Indiana Eric Gordon was the number 2 prospect in the nation after Rose for a period of time. Only reason he fell was because people got too caught up on his height.
Beal is getting overrated from what I can tell.
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NBAdraftnet post I found Interesting from a respected poster there.
[B]"He's not as explosive, strong or athletic as Eric Gordon[/B], and he does not create as well off the bounce. Gordon was getting to the line almost 9 times a game at Indiana, and he's much more of an off-ball player. Beal also doesn't seem to be as polished as Gordon as a scorer, especially in terms of how ready he is to step into an NBA scoring role. Gordon was a 15 ppg scorer immediately, I do not think Beal will be that kind of scorer early, especially not as efficiently as Gordon did it (45% his 1st 2 years). Beal reminds me of a Michael Redd more than Eric Gordon. I just dont see the explosiveness in Beal that I saw in Gordon at Indiana or in the NBA."
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]I understand core and Eric Gordon is built like a tank. Have you seen him slash to the rim and finish with contact over bigs his entire career? There is a reason some have compared him to Wade. Trust me when I say Beal is NOT stronger and in no way PERIOD is he a better prospect outside of rebounding.
Shorter wingspan, slower, weaker, less athletic, worse scorer, worse defender. Eric Gordon is 6'2 220+ pounds with a 6'9 wingspan, 40 inch vertical and superb sprint and agility times. Not to mention before the drama off the court at Indiana Eric Gordon was the number 2 prospect in the nation after Rose for a period of time. Only reason he fell was because people got too caught up on his height.
Beal is getting overrated from what I can tell.[/QUOTE]
Yeah hes built like a tank thats why he never plays right?
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He can go bench all he wants cause he is never on the court.
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More.
"Everyone was incredibly high on Gordon before he got injured and thought he'd be an all-star this season. Gordon was a 20+ point scorer in his one season in Indiana and was [B]both stronger and more athletic than Beal is right now.[/B]"
Basically everybody on Draftnet keeps talking about how Gordon is stronger and the superior athlete. Seems like you're in the minority opinion there chief.
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Hey what do you know... Brandonislegend talking out of his ass again.
[url]http://www.nbadraft.net/players/bradley-beal[/url]
[url]http://www.nbadraft.net/players/eric-gordon[/url]
Draft Net's scouting chart gives Eric Gordon a 10 out of 10 for strength and athleticsm and Beal an 8 out of a 10 for both. Seems like you are the one who's never played basketball here, not me. I hate to scold you but you brought it on yourself.
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He doesn't even play and who cares about meters on some random website? What is this a video game?
If so Eric Gordon on injury should be a 10 too because he cant even play ever
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[QUOTE=brandonislegend]Yeah hes built like a tank thats why he never plays right?[/QUOTE]
So are Rose and Wade :confusedshrug: . Injuries happen.. and some players are injury prone. Doesn't mean they aren't strong. When I saw Eric Gordon get tied up by Artest and flip him over onto his back and come out with the ball... that's when I realized the guy had freakish strength.
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What's sad is even injury prone and all.. he's better than any player on the Grizzlies... so not sure why you're so worried about him.
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hahaha suck his **** more bro
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[QUOTE=brandonislegend]hahaha suck his **** more bro[/QUOTE]
Gordon>Gay
Clippers>Grizzlies
End of story :confusedshrug: .
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Gordon>Gay
Clippers>Grizzlies
End of story :confusedshrug: .[/QUOTE]
Both went no where this year, have fun with CP3 leaving next year and back to the shithole.
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[QUOTE=brandonislegend]Both went no where this year, have fun with CP3 leaving next year and back to the shithole.[/QUOTE]
Clippers went a round further, that's all you need to know. That was with Griffin+CP3 carrying injuries. Your team would of lost 4-1 had it not been for those injuries. CP3 ain't leaving brah... because the Clippers are going to the WCF. Enjoy your chemistry issue filled squad and maxed out potential though.
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I think the fact that Beal averaged just under seven rebounds a game as a freshman at Florida shows a level of toughness that isn't seen all that often in SGs. It also shows that he has athleticism, regardless of how some draft "experts" try to spin his profile.
There are tons of ways to measure athleticism. Dexterity, change-of-direction quickness, getting off of the floor quickly, body control, etc.
From what I've seen of Beal, he is a superb athlete and as tough as nails. I'd be happy with him at the No. 4 slot assuming MKG is off of the board.
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Gordon<Gay
Hornets<Grizzlies
End of story :confusedshrug: .[/QUOTE]
fixed
Now on topic
Do you guys think Charlotte should pick him @ 2? A kemba and beal back court could be as bad as curry's and ellis' but this team needs scoring badly
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[QUOTE=CelticBaller]fixed
Now on topic
Do you guys think Charlotte should pick him @ 2? A kemba and beal back court could be as bad as curry's and ellis' but this team needs scoring badly[/QUOTE]
No.
I have a feeling that Charlotte will end up with either Thomas Robinson or Andre Drummond.
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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]No.
I have a feeling that Charlotte will end up with either Thomas Robinson or Andre Drummond.[/QUOTE]
Doubt they take Drummond. They have Bismack. Can't afford to take such a risk.They need some scoring. I would not be surprised if they went Harrison Barnes, but I think they will go with MKG.
T Rob is a good pick IMO. His real only set back is his height. But with his rebounding ability, energy and soft touch around the rim, he is a great prospect for a struggling team. He can also hit the jumper which a lot of 4s out of college cannot do. It will only get better/more consistent.
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I'm hoping for Beal or MKG. MKG's last name would look nice on the back of a Cavs jersey.
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wow i originally thought brad beal was just a shooter and was really unathletic. but then i saw this video of him in high school and am shocked lol. his dunking sort of reminds me of russell westbrook
watch 2:10
4:20
4:50
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udegP44DwSA&hd=1[/url]
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[QUOTE=CelticBaller]fixed
Now on topic
Do you guys think Charlotte should pick him @ 2? A kemba and beal back court could be as bad as curry's and ellis' but this team needs scoring badly[/QUOTE]
No.
At #2 you better be sure you're getting a guy who is going to be a solid pro, who can weather the growing pains and still be productive while learning the NBA game.
That's MKG. He can do enough to help the team while he's developing as an NBA scorer. I don't see that in Beal.
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[QUOTE=JMT]No.
At #2 you better be sure you're getting a guy who is going to be a solid pro, who can weather the growing pains and still be productive while learning the NBA game.
That's MKG. He can do enough to help the team while he's developing as an NBA scorer. I don't see that in Beal.[/QUOTE]
On the flip side, Charlotte is absolutely desperate for a guy who can score. Don't get me wrong, I love MKG and how he hustles his ass on every play and is a very versatile defender. However, he was the 4th/5th option (at best 3rd) on the UK team, didn't show much offensive versatility- a lot of his offense was getting down low versus smaller guys from what I've seen, and his shot is absolutely horrendous. Who knows how long it'll take for MKG to develop an offensive repertoire or if he'll ever even develop one.
Only problem is, a lot of the scoring guys in Beal or Lamb aren't worth the 2nd pick either.
Personally, I think they'd be better served either trading down for multiple first round picks this year or taking Robinson.
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I just re-watched the florida vs UK game, holy shit brad beal is going to be good.
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[QUOTE=Snoop_Cat]
Personally, I think they'd be better served either trading down for multiple first round picks this year or taking Robinson.[/QUOTE]
Don't disagree. But if we're discussing selecting a player in that slot, I believe MKG is by far the safest choice. As you noted, his hustle and defensive ability will keep him on the court while he figures out his offense. I would disagree that he doesn't have enough offense to make it at the next level. Being the 3rd option on a team of 1st round draft picks is a bit deceptive.
I wouldn't take Robinson at #2 either. He's Drew Gooden imo.
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To me I see a Mitch Richmond/Eric Gordon type player in Brad Beal
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[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]NBAdraftnet post I found Interesting from a respected poster there.
[B]"He's not as explosive, strong or athletic as Eric Gordon[/B], and he does not create as well off the bounce. Gordon was getting to the line almost 9 times a game at Indiana, and he's much more of an off-ball player. Beal also doesn't seem to be as polished as Gordon as a scorer, especially in terms of how ready he is to step into an NBA scoring role. Gordon was a 15 ppg scorer immediately, I do not think Beal will be that kind of scorer early, especially not as efficiently as Gordon did it (45% his 1st 2 years). Beal reminds me of a Michael Redd more than Eric Gordon. I just dont see the explosiveness in Beal that I saw in Gordon at Indiana or in the NBA."[/QUOTE]
Thank you someone who watches basketball. Both Beal and Barnes are vastly overrated. I can't believe either are top 10 picks.
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[QUOTE=Warners0]Thank you someone who watches basketball. Both Beal and Barnes are vastly overrated. I can't believe either are top 10 picks.[/QUOTE]
so whats your top 10?