to draft MKG.
We shall see....
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to draft MKG.
We shall see....
NOT THIS WAY NO :banghead: TRADING WITH MAGETTE WAS JUST TO CLEAR UP SPACE IT WAS THE PLOY ALL ALONG FVCK
i wanted to see kyrie + mkg :(
here comes a horrible trade..lol
The worst scoring team in the league, just drafted a guy whose best quality is his "high motor"? Don't get me wrong I like the kid, just not for this team.
Terrible pick once again from MJ. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=2LeTTeRS]The worst scoring team in the league, just drafted a guy whose best quality is his "high motor"? Don't get me wrong I like the kid, just not for this team.[/QUOTE]
Precisely.
Everyone here knows how high I am on MKG, but are you freaking serious MJ?
The most no-brainer pick after Davis. What a ****ing moron.
[QUOTE=2LeTTeRS]The worst scoring team in the league, just drafted a guy whose best quality is his "high motor"? Don't get me wrong I like the kid, just not for this team.[/QUOTE]
They're trying to tank some more.
You got Kemba, Bismack, and MKG. You have to shoot for Noel or Shabazz next year.
Jordan might not be a good draft evaluator but I don't think Cho isn't so dumb not to t
oh wow.. smh..
[QUOTE=Fiasco]Precisely.
Everyone here knows how high I am on MKG, but are you freaking serious MJ?
The most no-brainer pick after Davis. What a ****ing moron.[/QUOTE]
Jerry West over here.
expecting a cavs-bobcats trade
hopefully :(
Nevermind
Dino Waiters
Lol
[QUOTE=CelticBaller]expecting a cavs-bobcats trade
hopefully :([/QUOTE]
not happening bro..
you guys are right .. when now is the time to pick a north carolina player.. jordan skips and pick mkg.. not saying mkg is a bad pick. i just think barnes will fit better for them... we shall see...
[QUOTE=veilside23]not happening bro..
you guys are right .. when now is the time to pick a north carolina player.. jordan skips and pick mkg.. not saying mkg is a bad pick. i just think barnes will fit better for them... we shall see...[/QUOTE]
Barnes is a bona fide role player. MKG is a much better pick at #2 than Barnes.
You guys are insane.
This is an excellent pick.
[QUOTE=MostHated305]You guys are insane.
This is an excellent pick.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Jordan listening to Rich Cho and resisting the urge to draft fellow North Carolinian and future role player Harrison Barnes.
I don't get how MJ is so bad when he is the GOAT and has a high bbal IQ? :confusedshrug:
I mean, look at Larry Bird.
[QUOTE=swi7ch]I don't get how MJ is so bad when he is the GOAT and has a high bbal IQ? :confusedshrug:
I mean, look at Larry Bird.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps MJs bball IQ is greatly over rated?
[QUOTE=swi7ch]I don't get how MJ is so bad when he is the GOAT and has a high bbal IQ? :confusedshrug:
I mean, look at Larry Bird.[/QUOTE]
He did well today.
[quote=bleedinpurpleTwo]Perhaps MJs bball IQ is greatly over rated?[/quote]
Do you want me to list his accomplishments? You don't get those without a high bball IQ.
[QUOTE=swi7ch]Do you want me to list his accomplishments? You don't get those without a high bball IQ.[/QUOTE]
gifted athlete. unbelievable work ethic.
bball IQ? sure, its probably fairly high. Not like Bird or Magic, but certainly higher than most.
Well, if they're trying to do the OKC model then this should work...they'll be horrible again this year but maybe MKG can at least make them less of a joke team, they should then try to draft Shabazz and let Henderson walk. They'll have 2 talented wings on rookie contracts and can go from there. The Bobcats don't want to get good too fast.
[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]gifted athlete. unbelievable work ethic.
bball IQ? sure, its probably fairly high. Not like Bird or Magic, but certainly higher than most.[/QUOTE]
Measuring basketball IQ now? By the way, Magic Johnson was a piss poor coach and has never had the responsibility of drafting players. He was a minority owner with little say on basketball operations. To judge someone's basketball IQ based on their decisions as an owner/GM is foolish and misguided. Drafting and scouting is an imperfect science and few are very good at it. You also need to put in the work and many around Jordan have suggested he hasn't, which reflects poorly on his work ethic as an owner and not on his basketball IQ.
Drafting in hoops is hit or miss, one of the reasons why it's called the "lottery" I suppose. You basically have the majority of the top 10 or so prospects playing only one season in college which is not a lot of tape. Think of how many games you have to scout someone in the NFL when it comes to Andrew Luck or RG3. To me, it just makes more sense to always trade a high pick for quality proven players and not take a risk. With that said, this isn't a bad pick. Might have been better to trade down and bait to take Beal, but obviously no one was biting.
[QUOTE=Deltron3030]Drafting in hoops is hit or miss, one of the reasons why it's called the "lottery" I suppose. You basically have the majority of the top 10 or so prospects playing only one season in college which is not a lot of tape. Think of how many games you have to scout someone in the NFL when it comes to Andrew Luck or RG3. To me, it just makes more sense to always trade a high pick for quality proven players and not take a risk. With that said, this isn't a bad pick. Might have been better to trade down and bait to take Beal, but obviously no one was biting.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Good pick and good restraint in resisting Barnes, which would have been a bad pick.
[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]gifted athlete. unbelievable work ethic.
bball IQ? sure, its probably fairly high. Not like Bird or Magic, but certainly higher than most.[/QUOTE]
Bird is the only one to show he has high basketball IQ after retirement.
Magic has success off the court with his Magic Theatre, numerous charity foundations and recently being a co-owner of the Dodgers. He failed as a coach back in the mid-90's. And I don't think being a 5% share owner of the Lakers equal smart basketball IQ.
[QUOTE=AK47DR91]Bird is the only one to show he has high basketball IQ after retirement.
Magic has success off the court with his Magic Theatre, numerous charity foundations and recently being a co-owner of the Dodgers. He failed as a coach back in the mid-90's. And I don't think being a 5% share owner of the Lakers equal smart basketball IQ.[/QUOTE]
Bird was also fortunate to inherit a team with a good foundation when he took the helm as president of basketball operations in 2003. Jordan inherited two horrible franchises, one an expansion franchise. He hasn't done a good job drafting but he never had anything to work with initially. Bird did do a good job over the duration of his run, it wasn't flawless but he did a good job.
Cats are building a team for 3-4 years from now, so I'm guessing they think that while MKG isn't the best player available now (that seemed to be Thomas Robinson) in 3 years time, if he develops properly then he'll be quality.
Rich Cho said he had total autonomy to make picks, so I can't see MJ overruling. That was the entire point of making Higgins the Pres and hiring Cho as GM, so he didn't have to make the decisions anymore.
[QUOTE=AngelEyes]Bird was also fortunate to inherit a team with a good foundation when he took the helm as president of basketball operations in 2003. Jordan inherited two horrible franchises, one an expansion franchise. He hasn't done a good job drafting but he never had anything to work with initially. Bird did do a good job over the duration of his run, it wasn't flawless but he did a good job.[/QUOTE]
Bird was part of the Pacers organization since 1997-ish. He was their head coach in the 90's before becoming their Executive of Basketball Operations.
[QUOTE=El Kabong]Cats are building a team for 3-4 years from now, so I'm guessing they think that while MKG isn't the best player available now (that seemed to be Thomas Robinson) in 3 years time, if he develops properly then he'll be quality.
Rich Cho said he had total autonomy to make picks, so I can't see MJ overruling. That was the entire point of making Higgins the Pres and hiring Cho as GM, so he didn't have to make the decisions anymore.[/QUOTE]
Good point. Seems to be a change in philosophy in hiring an actual basketball mind and not just one of MJ's buddies.
[QUOTE=AK47DR91]Bird was part of the Pacers organization since 1997-ish. He was their head coach in the 90's before becoming their Executive of Basketball Operations.[/QUOTE]
I know this, he did a good job.
[URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7471282&postcount=26"]No, I made the call.[/URL]
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green][URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7471282&postcount=26"]No, I made the call.[/URL][/QUOTE]
OMG, you're as bad as Michael Jordan.
Youze suck!
Why are people acting like Larry Bird has always been thought of as this great talent evaluator? He hasn't. Up until a year or two ago he was average at best.
[QUOTE=LA_Showtime]Why are people acting like Larry Bird has always been thought of as this great talent evaluator? He hasn't. Up until a year or two ago he was average at best.[/QUOTE]
Good point.
MKG is not the type to carry a crappy team into the playoffs. His ceilling looks more Scottie Pippen-esque. If Cleveland got him and paired him up with Kyrie then he would be really good.
He might appear to be a bust.
On the court IQ and team building IQ are two different things. If they were even close to being the same every GM would be a former NBA all star. But instead the front offices are filled with men some who never played the game and those that did play and became solid front office men are the ones that were role players and became students of the game from the bench.