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How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
Throughout his Hall of Fame career, Ray Allen has been one of the good guys and liked by the eye of the public. However, if turns down Boston's deal and joins forces with Lebron(the great one), Wade(D-whistle), and Bosh(last of the raptors), will there be backlash? If so, how much hate will Ray Allen get?
Or...
How much [i]Heat[/i] will come his way.. :D
Is it worth it to chase after 1-2 more rings?
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
Let's put it this way. I will no longer refer to him as "Jesus". "Devil" seems more appropriate.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=BallsOut]Let's put it this way. I will no longer refer to him as "Jesus". "Devil" seems more appropriate.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
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I don't give a shit about Ray Allen either way.
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He'd definitely be turning over to the dark side, in a way.
And he'd have to take the mini MLE or the minimum, leaving a handful of money on the table.
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[QUOTE=SpecialQue]I don't give a shit about Ray Allen either way.[/QUOTE]
Apparently, some GMs do. :D
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I won't hate the guy. I'll be disappointed though.
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Ray Ray doesn't join the enemy like the players on Miami.
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Why do people expect him to be loyal to Boston? Dude has left 2 teams before. Its part of the game. And Miami is a great fit both socially and on the court.
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Boston tried to trade him several times, he does not owe them anything.
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[QUOTE=duganbarrmum]it wasnt clever the first time you said it earlier and its not clever now.... and since when are u even a celtics fan? bandwagoner.[/QUOTE]
Okay Nash aka DuMa. Get off that alternate account.
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Maybe It's not about money and rings but, rumor is he can't stand Rondo acting like he owns the place. If he's gonna chill in Miami and win another ring or 3, why not? Attitude change, he's no longer concerned about a few bucks, more concerned about his future, I HOPE. If he blows up and has a major explosion of practice 3's in the regular season and Finals the legend is only gonna get bigger.
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I've always said that Riley shouldn't sell Ray on just winning the title, but on his three point record. It's about making it as hard to pass as possible. Miami probably offers him the best chance, by far, to do so.
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[QUOTE=50inchvertical]none, he isn't LeBron[/QUOTE]
Too bad that ain't working for Shane Battier....was instantly added to the dark side list once he sold his soul.
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I respect Ray Allen a lot but after what Boston did to him last season I won't hate him for leaving the celtics
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he's only gonna catch heat from boston fans.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]I've always said that Riley shouldn't sell Ray on just winning the title, but on his three point record. It's about making it as hard to pass as possible. Miami probably offers him the best chance, by far, to do so.[/QUOTE]
Funny because that's the exact opposite of what has happened to great 3pt shooters that have joined the Miami Heat post Lebron. Let's talk about what happened to the last so called veteran shooters that joined Miami and where their careers are now:
Eddie House - is this guy still in the league?
Mike Bibby - 3rd string PG for the Knicks, probably going to get waived
Shane Battier - immense ridicule, labeled scrub for missing shots
Mike Miller - point forward reduced to a 3pt shooter, forced to set screens for Lebron/Wade causing him to have recurring back injuries
James Jones - mysteriously taken off of the rotation after an incredible 3pt shooting season with the Heat
Ray Allen - yea u get the point
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There would be a good chance of him not getting his jersey retired by any of his former teams.
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[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]There would be a good chance of him not getting his jersey retired by any of his former teams.[/QUOTE]
good.
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[QUOTE=duganbarrmum]and what exactly did boston 'do' to him?[/QUOTE]
Put him on the choppin block multiple times. Only reason he's still there now is cause KG decided to go beast mode the later half of the year. Doc moving KG to C saved Ray.
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[QUOTE=BallsOut]Funny because that's the exact opposite of what has happened to great 3pt shooters that have joined the Miami Heat post Lebron. Let's talk about what happened to the last so called veteran shooters that joined Miami and where their careers are now:
Eddie House - is this guy still in the league?
Mike Bibby - 3rd string PG for the Knicks, probably going to get waived
Shane Battier - immense ridicule, labeled scrub for missing shots
Mike Miller - point forward reduced to a 3pt shooter, forced to set screens for Lebron/Wade causing him to have recurring back injuries
James Jones - mysteriously taken off of the rotation after an incredible 3pt shooting season with the Heat
Ray Allen - yea u get the point[/QUOTE]
One of those names is different than the others. :roll:
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[QUOTE=Tenchi Ryu]Too bad that ain't working for Shane Battier....was instantly added to the dark side list once he sold his soul.[/QUOTE]
First of all, thats not completely true. And even if, you don't think he's enjoying it?
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[QUOTE=BallsOut]Funny because that's the exact opposite of what has happened to great 3pt shooters that have joined the Miami Heat post Lebron. Let's talk about what happened to the last so called veteran shooters that joined Miami and where their careers are now:
Eddie House - is this guy still in the league?
Mike Bibby - 3rd string PG for the Knicks, probably going to get waived
Shane Battier - immense ridicule, labeled scrub for missing shots
Mike Miller - point forward reduced to a 3pt shooter, forced to set screens for Lebron/Wade causing him to have recurring back injuries
James Jones - mysteriously taken off of the rotation after an incredible 3pt shooting season with the Heat
Ray Allen - yea u get the point[/QUOTE]
So in 2 posts in this thread you've copied both from another thread you posted in. Stop copy pasting your other replies, especially since both suck.
Also, for the second time, that list is shit.
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[QUOTE=Nash]First of all, thats not completely true. And even if, you don't think he's enjoying it?[/QUOTE]
Who cares if he's enjoying it, the question OP is asking is how FANS will appreciate it. Battier is definitely enjoying his ring, but he definitely lost some fans in the process.
And considering Boston is just as big a rival to Miami as Chicago is, Boston fans and bandwagoners (Which they have a LOT of) would not be pleased if Ray went there.
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[QUOTE=SpecialQue]I don't give a shit about Ray Allen either way.[/QUOTE]
Lies from your brain trickle to your fingers through your keyboard. Lies I say.
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[QUOTE=Tenchi Ryu]Who cares if he's enjoying it, the question OP is asking is how FANS will appreciate it. Battier is definitely enjoying his ring, but he definitely lost some fans in the process.
And considering Boston is just as big a rival to Miami as Chicago is, Boston fans and bandwagoners (Which they have a LOT of) would not be pleased if Ray went there.[/QUOTE]
Lost fans? Dude lost the fans he had in Houston and Memphis the day he left those teams. They don't care about him and have already forgotten about him. What he did do though is gain a whole lot of new fans when he became a champion with Miami and thats for real.
Also, if you hate on an intelligent and cool dude like Battier there is something seriously off with you.
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Amazing. Fans just hate to hate.
You hate a guy for taking the money. You hate a guy for taking a pay cut. SMFH
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[QUOTE=Nash]Lost fans? Dude lost the fans he had in Houston and Memphis the day he left those teams. They don't care about him and have already forgotten about him. What he did do though is gain a whole lot of new fans when he became a champion with Miami and thats for real.
Also, if you hate on an intelligent and cool dude like Battier there is something seriously off with you.[/QUOTE]
Just how it is. I've told you before, death by association. With a good number of fans not liking Miami at all, you associate with them, you get added on the list.
I love Bosh, a cool dude and would love him on my team. But being on Miami, he's constantly dogged and made fun of, a lot more than when he was in Toronto.
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A tremendous amount of hate. Just look at Shane Battier. Ray Allen has always been a high character guy, gets in to practice early, leaves late, puts up hundreds of shots each day. That spells Boston Celtics to me. Miami Heat and their leader, Lebron James are well reknowned for taking the easy way out. They'll brush off bad habits on him, thinking they can turn it on and off whenever they want. While these guys are dancing on the sideline during pregames, Ray is out 2 hours before hand getting shots up. It just doesn't feel like a good match at all.
Then you talk about his character. Here's a guy that was never selfish, arrogant or ever caught trash talking to any player. You don't put a guy like that on one of the most arrogant teams in the league. If Ray wants to prolong his career, not stress out at all the hate/backlash he would get, Boston is the right place to end it.
As a long time Ray Allen fan, I can truly say I will no longer be a fan and will no longer refer to him as Jesus if he joins the Heat next season.
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[QUOTE=Tenchi Ryu]Just how it is. I've told you before, death by association. With a good number of fans not liking Miami at all, you associate with them, you get added on the list.
I love Bosh, a cool dude and would love him on my team. But being on Miami, he's constantly dogged and made fun of, a lot more than when he was in Toronto.[/QUOTE]
Bosh is so much more relevant today than he has every been in his life, combined. And even if Bosh would have chosen another team, say Houston or something like that, he'd still not have gotten half of the attention he's getting with Miami.
Nobody will hate on Ray. Maybe Celtics fans but thats it.
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[QUOTE=BallsOut]A tremendous amount of hate. Just look at Shane Battier. Ray Allen has always been a high character guy, gets in to practice early, leaves late, puts up hundreds of shots each day. That spells Boston Celtics to me. Miami Heat and their leader, Lebron James are well reknowned for taking the easy way out. They'll brush off bad habits on him, thinking they can turn it on and off whenever they want. While these guys are dancing on the sideline during pregames, Ray is out 2 hours before hand getting shots up. It just doesn't feel like a good match at all.
Then you talk about his character. Here's a guy that was never selfish, arrogant or ever caught trash talking to any player. You don't put a guy like that on one of the most arrogant teams in the league. If Ray wants to prolong his career, not stress out at all the hate/backlash he would get, Boston is the right place to end it.
[B]As a long time Ray Allen fan, I can truly say I will no longer be a fan and will no longer refer to him as Jesus if he joins the Heat next season.[/B][/QUOTE]
Then you're not a fan but just a guy who hates the Heat more than he's a fan of Ray.
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Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
Where are the people hating on Battier?
MAybe OKC fans
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I'll respect him even more. :applause:
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[QUOTE=Nash]Bosh is so much more relevant today than he has every been in his life, combined. And even if Bosh would have chosen another team, say Houston or something like that, he'd still not have gotten half of the attention he's getting with Miami.
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I'd disagree with the more relevant part. He was the sole thing making Toronto relevant, a proven gold medalist and all-star. So many teams really wanted him in summer 2010. He was, as they say, THE MAN of his franchise. True he's getting a lot more attention, but a LOT of that attention is negative.
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Speaking for myself personally, medium level heat lol. I don't see why he'd have so much loyalty to Boston after so many proposed trades didn't go down but I still can't get with jumping on the superstar bandwagon thing.
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[QUOTE=HiphopRelated]Where are the people hating on Battier?
MAybe OKC fans[/QUOTE]
IN Ballsout and Tenchi Ryu, 2 notorious Heat haters, head.
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[QUOTE=Nash]Why do people expect him to be loyal to Boston? Dude has left 2 teams before. Its part of the game. And Miami is a great fit both socially and on the court.[/QUOTE]
Money talks. Boston can pay him way more than Miami.
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[QUOTE=Tenchi Ryu]I'd disagree with the more relevant part. He was the sole thing making Toronto relevant, a proven gold medalist and all-star. So many teams really wanted him in summer 2010. He was, as they say, THE MAN. True he's getting a lot more attention, but a LOT of that attention is negative.[/QUOTE]
THE MAN!!? Ask Bosh if he wants to leave Miami to be the man at any team out there and he wouldn't. Why would he? He's living the rock star life right now.
And if you seriously think Bosh was more relevant with Toronto than with the Heat then I don't know if you're trolling me or not.
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[QUOTE=Heavincent]Money talks. Boston can pay him way more than Miami.[/QUOTE]
I absolutely agree with you on that.
Two reasons why I can't see this happening:
-money
-him going up against KG and Pierce in Lebron, Wade and Bosh's team.