Real signature moves:Hakeem Olajuwon Dream Shake

- Hey everyone....I'm gonna go over some of the most popular "signature moves" in basketball history

In Basketball it's not always the "flashy" moves that make a player great...it's the small details...the little things that seperate great players from thier peers.

First up....

[B]The Dream Shake[/B]

The #1 Factor in Dreams ability to do the dream shake was , his IQ of knowing /wanting to always decieve his opponent. ( He stated that playing soccer/futbol showed him the importance of tricking his defender even as far as changing his whole direction (go backwards) coupled with foot movement and head movement to try and get past)...the knowledge of trickery/deception/ and ability.

#2. His excellent Foot coordination....I think growing up playing soccer gave him a advantage with his foot speed/balance

he was a threat to quikly spin past .....

[IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/1zqge2b.gif[/IMG]

Forcing you to play off of him slightly......but not to much or he could easily rise up and get his shot...

[IMG]http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Hakeem%20Olajuwon/z%20GIFs/2.gif[/IMG]

#3. You had to play him honest or he could shoot a 15' jumper consistently.


so with all that in his pocket....he knew how to decieve his opponent with Head' shoulder fakes...and use his pivot to spin.

example:Oliver Miller plays him close.....Hakeem spins.....Oliver is still on him....Hakeem uses a head and shoulder fake to act like he is going to reverese pivot (rise up and shoot)...but he doesn't...he continues inoriginal direction for a layup. 2 moves


[IMG]http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Hakeem%20Olajuwon/z%20GIFs/10.gif[/IMG]

Cliff Robinson (aftr bieng spun on many times...to go along with bieng risen on many times) Plays him Tight....hakeem fakes reverse pivot(great head and shoulder fake) turns into a fallaway J

[IMG]http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Hakeem%20Olajuwon/z%20GIFs/4.gif[/IMG]

and Finally...the true version of a Dream Shake....

Hakeem catches it in the post ( has not established a Pivot) Spins to his left...jab steps (remember he can drive past you)...takes one dribble going right (cross step)...uses another fake with a head and shoulder (head moves with the shoulder to create an illusion of another reverse pivot)

comes back over his left shoulder for a easy/open 10' jumper

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all created by Tricking his opponent rather then using brute speed/force


:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

sorry the original post was incomplete...posted early:confusedshrug:

Yup... according to me the greatest post player ever.

Repped :cheers: That was a great read. Nice choice of gifs too - DRob completely lost on Hakeem's quick right spin :bowdown:

What other signature moves are up next?

the trick is every time you do a fake to make a two point stop so that the defender can't decide which is your pivot foot

from their its just reacting to how your defender plays you, its so simple its brilliant

That little jump stop he does makes it so much more difficult to defend his shake. Defenders get shook because they think he established a pivot when in fact he could actually go either way.

His footwork was amazing, was extremely quick and agile, had a nice touch on his jumpers and if need be could throw some power behind his dunks.

Easily my favorite center of all-time.

[QUOTE=TheAesirsFinest]Repped :cheers: That was a great read. Nice choice of gifs too - DRob completely lost on Hakeem's quick right spin :bowdown:

What other signature moves are up next?[/QUOTE]


- Tim Hardaway's UTEP 2 step

- Kiki Vanderweigh's running/leaner floater

- LJ's Grandmama

- Roony's Euro step (first person I saw use it...Sarunas!!)

- Kobe pound pivot reverse

- Birds screen Rub fallaway J


some of my ideas....

suggestions welcome

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]- Tim Hardaway's UTEP 2 step

- Kiki Vanderweigh's running/leaner floater

- LJ's Grandmama

- Roony's Euro step (first person I saw use it...Sarunas!!)

- Kobe pound pivot reverse

- Birds screen Rub fallaway J


some of my ideas....

suggestions welcome[/QUOTE]

How about kareem skyhook?

Allen Iverson's killer crossover

[IMG]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/ai1s.gif/[/IMG]

[IMG]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/ai2.gif/[/IMG]

[IMG]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/ai3.gif/[/IMG]

Here is a whole article talking about his crossover:

[url]http://www.nbahoop.org/crossover-ai-allen-iverson-xover.html[/url]

I don't think there was a variation of the move.

I was always under the impression it was the move when he'd post up on the block, do a half spin, shoulder fake towards the middle and turn to the baseline for a fadeaway jumper. The description in this article, especially the visual, is perfect.

[img] http://oi49.tinypic.com/25u719e.jpg[/img]

Examples in the gifs below, sorry for the terrible quality.

[img]http://oi49.tinypic.com/dnetro.jpg[/img]

[img]http://oi50.tinypic.com/kyb9j.jpg[/img]

[img]http://oi48.tinypic.com/2e4ddnt.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=NugzHeat3]I don't think there was a variation of the move.

I was always under the impression it was the move when he'd post up on the block (usually the left), do a half spin, shoulder fake towards the middle and turn to the baseline for a fadeaway jumper. The description in this article, especially the visual, is perfect.

[img] http://oi49.tinypic.com/25u719e.jpg[/img]

Examples in the gifs below, sorry for the terrible quality.

[img] http://s11.postimage.org/4d9xo9obl/shake1_o_GIFSoup_com2.gif[/img]

[img]http://s17.postimage.org/nd8ubsucd/hakeem_o_GIFSoup_com.gif[/img]

[img]http://s11.postimage.org/6o4s0toip/hakeem_seattle_43dream_shake_o.gif[/img][/QUOTE]Why are none of our gifs showing up?

bmd, they're showing up fine to me.

Can anyone else confirm this?

I will upload from another site in that case.

The dream team thing shows, but the three images underneath don't (google chrome).

That last move on the op is so dirty. I can't imagine a defender playing that perfectly unless it comes from sheer luck of guessing.

[QUOTE=IGotACoolStory]The dream team thing shows, but the three images underneath don't (google chrome).

That last move on the op is so dirty. I can't imagine a defender playing that perfectly unless it comes from sheer luck of guessing.[/QUOTE]
Thanks man. Updated.

Well done sir!

Hakeem was so smooth. I don't care what anybody says, Hakeem was the best big man to play in the L.

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]- Tim Hardaway's UTEP 2 step

- [B]Kiki Vanderweigh's running/leaner floater[/B]

- LJ's Grandmama

- Roony's Euro step (first person I saw use it...Sarunas!!)

- Kobe pound pivot reverse

- Birds screen Rub fallaway J


some of my ideas....

suggestions welcome[/QUOTE]
Kiki's go-to move was the step-back not a floater.

Terrific and informative thread, AlphaWolf. You have shown multiple times that you are capable of being a thoughtful, informative poster, so I don't know why you choose to squander so much of your posting potential with your inane Kobe trolling.

Anyway, it's fascinating how much technique goes into these moves. Nice GIFs, and I hope you do more of these types of threads.

McHale and Hakeem had the best post moves in NBA history.

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]- Tim Hardaway's UTEP 2 step

- Kiki Vanderweigh's running/leaner floater

- LJ's Grandmama

- Roony's Euro step (first person I saw use it...Sarunas!!)

- [B]Kobe pound pivot reverse[/B]

- Birds screen Rub fallaway J


some of my ideas....

suggestions welcome[/QUOTE]

[B]That was MJ's before it was Kobe's.[/B] MJ probably took it from someone else.

Kareeem skyhook.
Iverson crossover.
McHale swinging gate.
Steve Smith baseline move (was like a Jedi Mind Trick)
Rasheed unblockable fallaway.
Shaq Black Tornado.

[QUOTE=Da KO King]Kiki's go-to move was the step-back not a floater.[/QUOTE]


During his prime Kiki was excellent at doing a change of direction move (not quite a hard crossover...but almost an in and out dribble) followed by a Running floater.

later in his career he did shoot more step back J's....he even said he liked to attack off the drible early...but as he got older he had to settle for Jumpers.

the video doesn't really do it justice...but Kiki used to be able to slightly fake/hesitate off the dribble and get past his defender >>>[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vwh6MRAJIU0#t=3036s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vwh6MRAJIU0#t=3036s[/URL]<< not really a great example but best I could find right now.

I remember him more for this then shooting step backs...although you are right , his Jumper was his go to move late in his career.

[QUOTE=SuperPippen][B]Terrific and informative thread, AlphaWolf. You have shown multiple times that you are capable of being a thoughtful, informative poster, so I don't know why you choose to squander so much of your posting potential with your inane Kobe trolling.
[/B]
Anyway, it's fascinating how much technique goes into these moves. Nice GIFs, and I hope you do more of these types of threads.[/QUOTE]

Reality is starting to set in for the old man. He's finally seeing how big of a damn fool he was looking, and is now "letting go". At some point you just gotta leave certain trends to the kids.
:oldlol:

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]I remember him more for this then shooting step backs...although you are right , his Jumper was his go to move late in his career.[/QUOTE]
KiKi was WAY better than the "average fan" remembers.

I remember the step-back more personally. I started to really experiment with basketball in the late-80s. Growing up that time in NYC everybody I was learning the game from was using that move.

God I loved that move. More than the technique it was a great move to teach because the "theory" and reads of the move are so easy to grasp. Attack the rim, if the defender shoulder is on your inside foot then step back and away. Counter is just as simple. On your step-back when your back foot hits the ground if the defender hands are down then elevate and shoot; if their hands up then give a slight head fake and attack the hoop again.

[QUOTE=waseem780]How about kareem skyhook?[/QUOTE]

will add..

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]During his prime Kiki was excellent at doing a change of direction move (not quite a hard crossover...but almost an in and out dribble) followed by a Running floater.[/QUOTE]
Just thought about this but I grew up with him on the same team as Mark Jackson, so Kiki's floater likely got over-shadowed by Jax teardrop.

Some more Hakeem stuff showcasing his creativity as well as footwork and quickness.

[img]http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/1468239_o.gif[/img]

^Quick turn to the baseline losing his defender and the ball fake to send him flying.

[img]http://oi55.tinypic.com/4vixb9.jpg[/img]

^Goes middle, defender can't help but think he's going for the jump hook and simply uses a counter move by stepping through.

[img]http://www.gifsoup.com/view/107753/hakeem-o.gif[/img]

[img] http://gifsoup.com/view1/3036642/fake-o.gif[/img]

^Quick baseline spin, ball fake to elude the first defender, pivots, pump fakes to juke the second defender and creates an easy lay up opportunity.

[img]http://gifsoup.com/view7/4005250/hakeem-robinson-o.gif[/img]

^Gif titled "David Robinson doesn't learn his lesson." Same move, baseline spin off the contact followed by the ball fake.

[img]http://gifsoup.com/view3/4004842/hakeem-philly-o.gif[/img]

^Same move as above on Theo Ratliff instead.

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]- Tim Hardaway's UTEP 2 step

- Kiki Vanderweigh's running/leaner floater

- LJ's Grandmama

- Roony's Euro step (first person I saw use it...Sarunas!!)

- Kobe pound pivot reverse

- Birds screen Rub fallaway J


some of my ideas....

suggestions welcome[/QUOTE]

Great Post

Can Shaq's jump hook get some love? It was his go-to move in the paint and it was pretty unstoppable. There's also the Shaw-Shaq redemption [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gESt6LJjdt0&feature=related[/url]

Also Rondo's behind the back fake pass.

GOAT Center

If you don't believe me, name a weakness. Thank you.

[IMG]http://notqualifiedtocomment.com/wp-content/uploads/the-walker-shimmy.jpg[/IMG]

:lol :lol :lol

[quote=AlphaWolf24]
suggestions welcome[/quote]

MJ's fadeaway.

No love for the Iceman's finger roll?

Jordan, Dirk, KG, Sheed, Kobe fadeaway...

Manu eurostep.

Pierce stepback

Duncan bank shot... Has he used them recently? I feel like I'm seeing less of them. Which is weird since he's gotten older and one would think he would have to use them more often.

Melo jab step.

Parker teardrop.

Whatever that shit Jamal Crawford does on fastbreaks.

Magic no look pass.

[QUOTE=swi7ch]GOAT Center

If you don't believe me, name a weakness. Thank you.[/QUOTE]

Well, I mean.. that's difficult. There are certainly a handful of other Centers who can lay claim to the greater accomplishments on paper but I'd agree that Hakeem was the most complete and arguably best ever on the court and as it pertains to his skills. Olajuwon could be counted upon to create his own shots and close games as a perimeter star would, and wasn't a liability at the free throw line.

Re: Accomplishments, I made this short case for him yesterday:
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7629387&postcount=78[/url]

I wonder what Hakeem's wingspan was? He seems like he had really long arms.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em6mdoB9p2s&t=0m55s[/url]

Hakeem Olajuwon Scoring Skills:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7tPZ-KljR0[/url]

Take note of how many [I]Very Good-to-Great [/I] defenders make an appearance in these clips, some of them on multiple occasions.

first move is a blatant fukkin travel. :facepalm

:applause:

OP, you might find this interesting considering you're looking to continue this project with other signature moves.

From SI weekly issue 16/3/1998. Top 5 moves in the NBA.

[url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/1998/weekly/980316/5bestmoves.html[/url]

1. Hakeem Olajuwon's Dream Shake
2. Michael Jordan's Fadeaway
3. Allen Iverson's and Tim Hardaway's Crossovers
4. Steve Smith's Fake Spin
5. Shaquille O'Neal's Drop Step

There's also a nice piece on the past and the future if you scroll down the page showcasing some unique moves of the old school players + the future generation.

You have the Magic no look pass, Monroe's spin move, Erving's behind-the-basket drives, Grant Hill's stutter, hesitation dribble, ect.

[QUOTE=NugzHeat3]OP, you might find this interesting considering you're looking to continue this project with other signature moves.

From SI weekly issue 16/3/1998. Top 5 moves in the NBA.

[url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/1998/weekly/980316/5bestmoves.html[/url]

1. Hakeem Olajuwon's Dream Shake
2. Michael Jordan's Fadeaway
]3. [B]Allen Iverson's[/B] and Tim Hardaway's [B]Crossover[/B]s
4. Steve Smith's Fake Spin
5. Shaquille O'Neal's Drop Step

There's also a nice piece on the past and the future if you scroll down the page showcasing some unique moves of the old school players + the future generation.

You have the Magic no look pass, Monroe's spin move, Erving's behind-the-basket drives, Grant Hill's stutter, hesitation dribble, ect.[/QUOTE]

That wasn't a signature move, but a signature illegal carry over.

[QUOTE=Smoke117]That wasn't a signature move, but a signature illegal carry over.[/QUOTE]
It still made the list though despite people being aware its a carry.