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Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
DURANT, LEBRON AND KOBE PLAYOFF GAMEWINNERS:
..in 2012 Playoffs Lebron had:
Missed Gamewinning 2PT shot in Game 2 vs Celtics
Made Gametying 3PT shot to send it into OT Game 4 vs Celtics
[B]That makes it a total of 6 of 14 (excluding FTs), 42.8% FG...[/B]
[url]http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/Lebron-GWinners-Playoffs.png[/url]
Kobe in 2012 Playoffs had:
Missed Gametying 3PT shot in Game 4 vs OKC
Missed Gametying 3PT shot in Game 5 vs Denver
[B]That makes it a total of 7 of 27 (excluding FTs), 25.9% FG...[/B]
[url]http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/Kobe-GWinners-Playoffs.png[/url]
As far as Kevin Durant goes:
Missed Gamewinning 3PT shot with 7 seconds to go Game 2 vs Lakers 2010
[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/...004200LAL.html[/url]
Made Gamewinning 2PT shot with 2 seconds to go Game 1 vs Mavs 2012
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B2QzmwFHuo[/url]
Made Gamewinning 2PT shot with 18 seconds to go Game 2 vs Lakers 2012
[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/...205160OKC.html[/url]
Missed Gametying 3PT shot with 4 seconds to go Game 3 vs Lakers 2012
[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/...205180LAL.html[/url]
Made Gamewinning 3PT shot with 13 seconds to go Game 4 vs Lakers 2012
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y57RzJWaYZ0[/url]
Missed Gametying 2PT shot with 9 seconds to go Game 2 vs Miami 2012
[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/...206140OKC.html[/url]
[B]Kevin Durant is so far 3 of 6 in the playoffs (excluding FTs), 50%... [/B]
Just putting it out there.... i would probably go with Durant when the game is on the line for a jumpshot, because at the end of the day its simply a matter of shooting accuracy whether it goes in or not...
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=pauk]
J[B]ust putting it out there.... i would probably go with Durant when the game is on the line for a jumpshot, because at the end of the day its simply a matter of shooting accuracy whether it goes in or not...[/B][/QUOTE]
No **** sherlock :lol No one in their right might would take ChuckBe over the Durantula in that situation.
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
:sleeping :sleeping :sleeping
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=KOBE143]:sleeping :sleeping :sleeping[/QUOTE]
Truth hurts huh? :lol
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
this trolling thread should be deleted.
Those links don't even work.
Trying to pass off fake links as real sources.:facepalm
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
Who cares? Jordan>All of them
Amirite? :pimp:
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=RRR3]Shut up Pauk[/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/i%20love%20you/grand/i-love-you-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-199.gif[/img]
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=9erempiree]this trolling thread should be deleted.[/quote]
Care to elaborate on what is "trolling" here, its zero opinions/statements... but all factual data.... with excellent logic & reason...
[quote]
Those links don't even work. Trying to pass off fake links as real sources.:facepalm[/quote]
Checked, all work for me...
Here is the links:
[img]http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/Lebron-GWinners-Playoffs.png[/img]
[img]http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/Kobe-GWinners-Playoffs.png[/img]
See it now?
Source: [url]http://chasing23.com/kobe-bryant-vs-lebron-james-game-winning-shots/[/url]
Those go up to only 2011, i updated with 2012 as you can see on the first post....
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=pauk]Care to elaborate on what is "trolling" here, its all factual data.... with excellent logic & reason...
Checked, all work for me...
Here is the links:
[img]http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/Lebron-GWinners-Playoffs.png[/img]
[img]http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/Kobe-GWinners-Playoffs.png[/img]
See it now?[/QUOTE]
LOL wowwww that is a terrible percentage :biggums: Knew it was bad, but not that bad.
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=pauk][img]http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/i%20love%20you/grand/i-love-you-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-199.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
Sorry if I was a little douchey there, I just don't want you creating threads that just get everyone trolling and arguing. It's annoying.
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=RRR3]Sorry if I was a little douchey there, I just don't want you creating threads that just get everyone trolling and arguing. It's annoying.[/QUOTE]
LOL coming from you? Come on man.. :lol
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=maybeshewill13]LOL coming from you? Come on man.. :lol[/QUOTE]
I only troll reigny for real:D
All right I'm just in a bad mood kind of lol ****ing Cardinals choked against the Giants:banghead: :banghead: :mad: :cry:
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=RRR3]Sorry if I was a little douchey there, I just don't want you creating threads that just get everyone trolling and arguing. It's annoying.[/QUOTE]
I made sure there will not be any trolling or arguing....... the facts speak for themselves... the trolling (if it happens anyways) happens just because there are trolls and will be trolling no matter what in any random thread...
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=Heavincent]Who cares?[/QUOTE]
At least 1 of these people should on todays poll at nba.com:
[img]http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/Untitled-2_zps3f69db68.png[/img]
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=RRR3]I only troll reigny for real:D
All right I'm just in a bad mood kind of lol ****ing Cardinals choked against the Giants:banghead: :banghead: :mad: :cry:[/QUOTE]
:lol go SF! But really, never watched a baseball game in my life :sleeping
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=pauk]At least 1 of these people should on todays poll at nba.com:
[img]http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/Untitled-2_zps3f69db68.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Funny thing is, any poll that includes a player from the Lakers (especially Kobe), or the Laker team, is always going to be skewed as half the NBA fan base supports LA..
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=maybeshewill13]:lol go SF! But really, never watched a baseball game in my life :sleeping[/QUOTE]
Let's not forget I own you (literally in a fantasy league). So it'd be wise not to piss me off:mad:
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=RRR3]Let's not forget I own you (literally in a fantasy league). So it'd be wise not to piss me off:mad:[/QUOTE]
:D
Seriously, I have no idea how this fantasy league works.. I do see a timer to draft. Do I have to do anything before the draft, or just show up at draft time?
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=maybeshewill13]:D
Seriously, I have no idea how this fantasy league works.. I do see a timer to draft. Do I have to do anything before the draft, or just show up at draft time?[/QUOTE]
Try showing up 30 minutes early if you can, at least that's what yahoo's advice is. What time is the draft going to be for you guys down in Australia?
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
Many Fans dont know these facts, i am just putting it out there... thats the only purpose with this thread... not trying to hurt anybodies feelings...
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
anyone who would give lebron the last shot before kobe is a bit retarded
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=RRR3]Try showing up 30 minutes early if you can, at least that's what yahoo's advice is. What time is the draft going to be for you guys down in Australia?[/QUOTE]
AWWW SHIIII, 3:30 AM!! :biggums:
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=pauk]At least 1 of these people should on todays poll at nba.com:
[img]http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/Untitled-2_zps3f69db68.png[/img][/QUOTE]
:confusedshrug:
He's in his twilight years. He's already at the point where most people just remember all of his great moments. Nobody really talks about any of his not so great moments. It happens with every all time great. Nobody really talks about Magic Johnson choking his ass off in the 84 Finals, or Nick Anderson embarrassing Jordan.
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=Heavincent]:confusedshrug:
He's in his twilight years. He's already at the point where most people just remember all of his great moments. Nobody really talks about any of his not so great moments. It happens with every all time great. Nobody really talks about Magic Johnson choking his ass off in the 84 Finals, or Nick Anderson embarrassing Jordan.[/QUOTE]
Exactly and my point is i dont like that because other players (like that topics/polls case, Durant) get overlooked who are/have been greater at a certain aspect of the game right now....
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
I can dig up some more players made/missed Gamewinners in playoffs if you are interested? Durant, Lebron & Kobe was just an obligatory starting point...
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=pauk]I can dig up some more players made/missed Gamewinners in playoffs if you are interested? Durant, Lebron & Kobe was just an obligatory starting point...[/QUOTE]
How about Larry Bird, Jerry West and Jordan?
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=avonbarksdale]anyone who would give lebron the last shot before kobe is a bit retarded[/QUOTE]
Arguing with facts. Productive way to spend your time.
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
I love how when LeBron was in his first season with Miami and missed a bunch of clutch shots in a row throughout the course of the season, people went crazy and called him a choke artist. That stopped in the Playoffs after he went in against the Celtics and Bulls. Now when someone brings up a negative thing about Kobe, it doesn't matter and no one cares. :facepalm
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=maybeshewill13]AWWW SHIIII, 3:30 AM!! :biggums:[/QUOTE]
Wake up early then nikka :lol
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=avonbarksdale]anyone who would give lebron the last shot before kobe is a bit retarded[/QUOTE]
Those facts as you can see strongly suggest otherwise, infact they suggest that the opposite decision to yours would be more "retarded"...
The main reason Lebron hit more of his gamewinners than Kobe in playoffs is because he is/was better at creating/making higher percentage shots (shots closer to the basket) and prefers better shot selection... same difference with their actual scoring...
If you want a last second jumpshot you could probably go with Kobe if you wish as their shooting accuracy from the perimeter is pretty much equal lately... no significant difference...
But if there is enough time left on the shotclock... Lebron will more often than not take/make a higher percentage shot compared to Kobe (which gives you logically a better chance to win), he can also more willingly than Kobe pass to an entirely open guy to take a shot at his sweetspot (which gives you logically another greater chance to win)....
Going by Kobes history in those situations Kobe thinks majority of time only "SHOOT!" (which is most often a lower percentage shot compared to what Lebron would do or sometimes even a very bad/very tough shot selection type of play, it does look pretty damn sweet and looks more impressive when it does go in though)...
This is where Durant comes in, Durant is A: he is a better jumpshooter than both Lebron/Kobe (from anywhere) and B: he is almost as good as Lebron with taking/making a higher percentage shot... and has excellent shot selection....
Compared to Lebron & Kobe Durant is supposed to be hitting gamewinning shots/clutch jumpshots more accurately based on this simple logic (and he is!).
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=RRR3]Wake up early then nikka :lol[/QUOTE]
:durantunimpressed:
What happens if I don't show up, do I just get the scraps lol? Will do my best to get up, day off work tomorrow so should be good. Try crank out some D3 to keep me up.
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=EnoughSaid]I love how when LeBron was in his first season with Miami and missed a bunch of clutch shots in a row throughout the course of the season, people went crazy and called him a choke artist. That stopped in the Playoffs after he went in against the Celtics and Bulls. Now when someone brings up a negative thing about Kobe, it doesn't matter and no one cares. :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Those shots from LeBron were so cold and shut everyone up. Especially Lebron and Dwade's comeback in Game 5 against the Bulls. .:bowdown:
[QUOTE=pauk]I can dig up some more players made/missed Gamewinners in playoffs if you are interested? Durant, Lebron & Kobe was just an obligatory starting point...[/QUOTE]
Look up Dwyane Wade's.
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
Not the first time I've posted this, and it won't be the last. Old, but not totally out dated yet.
[url]http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2012/03/04/kobe-bryant-lebron-james-and-clutch-shooting-when-perception-and-reality-shake-hands/#more-35626[/url]
[quote]On Friday night against the Utah Jazz, LeBron James put up one of those statlines where you would know it was him without even looking at the name attached to it: 35 points, 16-for-24 shooting, 10 rebounds, six assists, three blocks and no turnovers. Ridiculous, right? Too bad the Heat still lost the game by a point, and when LeBron passed out of a double team to a wide open Udonis Haslem for the potential game-winning shot
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
That's the wonder of statistics. Tweak it in a certain way and it'll fit your agenda perfectly.
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
The sad thing about Kobe stans passing this off is that if Kobe had an incredible % it would be bought up in every discussion.
That said I would probably still trust a prime Kobe with last shot, but the gap in selection between the three players is not as big as people would make it out to be. I'm semi interested in knowing melos record.
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=Droid101]Not the first time I've posted this, and it won't be the last. Old, but not totally out dated yet.
[url]http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2012/03/04/kobe-bryant-lebron-james-and-clutch-shooting-when-perception-and-reality-shake-hands/#more-35626[/url][/QUOTE]
this.
real working links and not some screen shot from someone on Excel.
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=maybeshewill13]:durantunimpressed:
What happens if I don't show up, do I just get the scraps lol? Will do my best to get up, day off work tomorrow so should be good. Try crank out some D3 to keep me up.[/QUOTE]
It'll autopick based on yahoo rankings. You can make your own predraft rankings and as long as you make sure to set it to pick those in an autodraft situation it will base the picks off your rankings.
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Re: Durant, Lebron and Kobe Playoff Gamewinners:
[QUOTE=KyrieTheFuture]That's the wonder of statistics. Tweak it in a certain way and it'll fit your agenda perfectly.[/QUOTE]
:applause: