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All they have to go through are the senior Celtics, Rose-less Bulls, Melo-less Knicks, Granger-less Pacers, and a team where Joe chucking Johnson is your best player.
The Heat are lucky to play in the East. The Clippers, Grizzlies and Spurs would all dominate them in a 7 game series in the playoffs. Hell even the Mavs might take them in 7.
[QUOTE=BallsOut]All they have to go through are the senior Celtics, Rose-less Bulls, dumb Knicks and a team where Joe chucking Johnson is your best player.
The Heat are lucky to play in the East. The Clippers, Grizzlies and Spurs would all dominate them in a 7 game series in the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
:roll: the Heat would bust all those teams asses. None of those teams would even take them to game 7.:lol
What about OKC? :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Papaya Petee]:roll: the Heat would bust all those teams asses. [B]None of those teams would even take them to game 7[/B].:lol[/QUOTE]
Correct, because the Heat would be destroyed in at most 5, maybe 6 games if the refs decide to screw the other team over.
[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]What about OKC? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Heat still beat OKC though. Lebron shits on Sefolosha/Durant. Plus they'll still be playing 4 vs 5 with Perkins out there.
You're basing this off what? early season games where nobody is playing near their full potential?
[QUOTE=BallsOut]Correct, because the Heat would be destroyed in at most 5, maybe 6 games if the refs decide to screw the other team over.[/QUOTE]
Wut? How does that make any kind of sense? Do u mean "unless"?
The Heat would run ammuck on most of those teams defenses. The East is where real defense is played, and the West is where the best offenses are. Has been that way for years, and likely will be for plenty more.
Let's be honest, the Heat will never get credit for any of their championships due to the overwhelming hatred against them.
[QUOTE=alleykat]You're basing this off what? early season games where nobody is playing near their full potential?[/QUOTE]
Every game they've played head to head the Heat have had huge disadvantages and problems. All those teams have great perimeter defenders, guys like Tony Allen, Bledsoe, SJax, Lenard and penetrating guards like Chris Paul, Conley, Tony Parker and Ginobli who just get in the lane at will. Throw in all of their monstrous bigs who just toy around with Bosh and Anthony and it's not even close.
[QUOTE=Papaya Petee]:roll: the Heat would bust all those teams asses. None of those teams would even take them to game 7.:lol[/QUOTE]
You're from Masachusetts, a Gortat fan by the looks of it, but you're a Heat fan. Get your mind right, bandwagoner. :oldlol:
And I think Memphis and SA can go 7 games with Miami easily. Easily.
Absolutely, Heat benefited in the playoffs due to the lack of great teams in the east. Just look at last season's playoffs.
Who were in the east?
Knicks of last season :lol
Pacers with no superstar :lol
Bulls with no Rose :lol
Celtics with injuries and old team :lol
Magic with no Dwight :lol
who else, Sixers? :lol
if they were in the west they'd had to fight through every playoff series, not just cake walk into the conference finals.
[QUOTE=lilgodfather1] The East is where real defense is played, and the West is where the best offenses are. Has been that way for years, and likely will be for plenty more.[/QUOTE]
this.
the Heat cant control who they play. stupid mindless bashing this thread is
Let's be honest, this thread is retarded.
[QUOTE=BallsOut]All they have to go through are the senior Celtics, Rose-less Bulls, dumb Knicks and a team where Joe chucking Johnson is your best player.
The Heat are lucky to play in the East. [B]The Clippers, Grizzlies and Spurs would all dominate them in a 7 game series in the playoffs.[/B] Hell even the Mavs might take them in 7.[/QUOTE]
The Thunder are better than all of them, and the Heat mopped the floor with the Thunder.
F outta here.
Lockout seasons over. "Contenders" have used the full offseason to get the teams they truly want into place...there's some injuries like Rose, Bynum and Amare, but the idea that the Heat have a clear path to the finals are over.
Last year I think they kinda did. The Celtics were the only team capable of upsetting them, and that's what it would've been. The Pacers are a joke if you consider them as anything more than a 50 win 2nd round speed bump. This year, I feel differently. We'll see if the Bulls can put it together when they get healthy, but I feel the 2 New York teams are built quite well to give the Heat all the trouble they can ask for....Philadelphia too. More than enough talent on the perimeter to play with the Heat's smalls on both ends, but big men and point guard play to exploit their weaknesses.
I don't like the idea for the Heat to go small. I don't see the move they could make to fix that decision. Do I think they could win the title again? Yes, but it would be far more impressive run to the finals this year over last.
They've become a team that struggles on the boards, very reliant on turnovers, transition buckets, and 3s, and have regressed defensively.
[QUOTE=tmacattack33]The Thunder are better than all of them, and the Heat mopped the floor with the Thunder.
F outta here.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately that's not how basketball works wise guy. Clippers, Grizzlies, Spurs and Mavs all have significant advantages and matchup problems for the Heat.
[QUOTE=SpecialQue]Let's be honest, this thread is retarded.[/QUOTE]
Says the Pau Gasoft fan and guy who has the word "Special" in his username. :applause:
Who exactly is the competion in the East? Not gonna lie the Heat got it easy in their conference. Not like they can control that tho :lol
[QUOTE=BallsOut]Says the Pau Gasoft fan and guy who has the word "Special" in his username. :applause:[/QUOTE]
That's your comeback? :facepalm
[QUOTE=BallsOut]Says the Pau Gasoft fan and guy who has the word "Special" in his username. :applause:[/QUOTE]
Ether :bowdown:
Heat would still beat any team in the west in a 7 game series.
[QUOTE=Fudge]You're from Masachusetts, a Gortat fan by the looks of it, but you're a Heat fan. Get your mind right, bandwagoner. :oldlol:
And I think Memphis and SA can go 7 games with Miami easily. Easily.[/QUOTE]
Who are u to call someone a bandwagoner when you are a rocket fan turned okc fan. :lol
[QUOTE=BallsOut]Unfortunately that's not how basketball works wise guy. Clippers, Grizzlies, Spurs and Mavs all have significant advantages and matchup problems for the Heat.[/QUOTE]
"Matchup problems" were the same thing Boston and Chicago fans said they had over Miami and look at what happened to that.
And if the Spurs and Grizzlies weren't good enough to get to the Finals last year, that is their own problem and not Miami's.
Let's Be Honest, the West is Lucky the Heat Play in the East
Shouldn't have to do this but:
[IMG]http://www.nationalturk.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/heat-champion.jpg[/IMG]
That the NBA title dair, not the ECF.
they gave up first game then swept the Western Conference Champion pretty emphatically.
[QUOTE=Y2Gezee]Lockout seasons over. "Contenders" have used the full offseason to get the teams they truly want into place...there's some injuries like Rose, Bynum and Amare, but the idea that the Heat have a clear path to the finals are over.
Last year I think they kinda did. The Celtics were the only team capable of upsetting them, and that's what it would've been. The Pacers are a joke if you consider them as anything more than a 50 win 2nd round speed bump. This year, I feel differently. We'll see if the Bulls can put it together when they get healthy, but I feel the 2 New York teams are built quite well to give the Heat all the trouble they can ask for....Philadelphia too. More than enough talent on the perimeter to play with the Heat's smalls on both ends, but big men and point guard play to exploit their weaknesses.
I don't like the idea for the Heat to go small. I don't see the move they could make to fix that decision. Do I think they could win the title again? Yes, but it would be far more impressive run to the finals this year over last.
They've become a team that struggles on the boards, very reliant on turnovers, transition buckets, and 3s, and have regressed defensively.[/QUOTE]
Note to readers: This guy thinks Melo is a top 3 player in the league.
They beat the best team in the Western Conference in the NBA Finals.
[QUOTE=G-train]Shouldn't have to do this but:
[IMG]http://www.nationalturk.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/heat-champion.jpg[/IMG]
That the NBA title dair, not the ECF.
they gave up first game then swept the Western Conference Champion pretty emphatically.[/QUOTE]
not really the point. They only had to go through one decent team last year. All the teams that match up with them are in the West. They don't have to go through talented teams with different playstyles like the WCF. Playing in the West you have to go through at least two of OKC/LAL/LAC/SAS/Memphis. That is a lot different from playing the old Celtics or Roseless Bulls.
2012 Celtics were better than the Lakers, Mavericks, Grizzlies, Spurs and the Clippers. A past his prime Duncan outplayed Griffin in the playoffs. Kg was better than TD in the 2012 playoffs.
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]not really the point. They only had to go through one decent team last year. All the teams that match up with them are in the West. They don't have to go through talented teams with different playstyles like the WCF. Playing in the West you have to go through at least two of OKC/LAL/LAC/SAS/Memphis. That is a lot different from playing the old Celtics or Roseless Bulls.[/QUOTE]
So what do you want Miami to do. Ask Stern to move them out west. These threads are so pointless. :facepalm
How is this thread rated an average of nearly four stars with 7 votes?
[QUOTE=no pun intended]How is this thread rated an average of nearly four stars with 7 votes?[/QUOTE]
Sock accounts / Kobe fanatics
LOL at saying the Spurs or Grizzlies would have an advantage over Miami in the playoffs.
Miami has been the most dominant team in the NBA in the playoffs since the big 3 got there. The Spurs and Grizzlies don't even come close, so you have absolutely no evidence to say that they would have a shot against Miami in the playoffs.
And to mention the Mavs in there is hysterical. They don't have Jason Terry, Jason Kidd, or Tyson Chandler anymore. It's a completely different team.
Let's be honest, the West are lucky Lebron and Miami are in the east.
[QUOTE=tmacattack33]
Miami has been the most dominant team in the NBA in the playoffs since the big 3 got there. [/QUOTE]
:lol
what have they done in the playoffs?
2011....
2012: beaten crappy Knicks, starless Pacers took em to 6, old Celtics took them to 7, finally beats a young team first time in finals and avg age is 23
Heat so dominant :bowdown: :bowdown:
[QUOTE=lilgodfather1]The Heat would run ammuck on most of those teams defenses. The East is where real defense is played, and the West is where the best offenses are. Has been that way for years, and likely will be for plenty more.[/QUOTE]
Yet the Grizzlies are the 1st best defense right now, Clippers 9th and Spurs 5th. Basically all of these teams that match up well with Miami are significantly better defensively than Miami this year. I would bet money that these 3 could beat Miami in a 7 game series because it's just a bad matchup for Miami small ball. I think the Lakers when they gel and get Nash would also be a bad matchup.
Bottom line is hell yes Miami is lucky to be in the east. I doubt they even get passed the WCF in the west and even that isn't guaranteed because they are going to see one of the teams they struggle with like the ones mentioned.
Playoff records the past two years:
Miami: 30-13
San Antonio: 12-8
Memphis: 10-10
Clippers: 4-7 (and these 11 games are all from 2012...they failed to make the playoffs in 2011)
...:oldlol:
Didn't the Heat bitch slap the team that mollywhopped the western conference?