Who would your rather build around?
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Who would your rather build around?
Irving
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Westbrook since he's proven to be more durable.
Kyrie.
[QUOTE=shady6121]Westbrook since he's proven to be more durable.[/QUOTE]
He has also proven to be mentally r.etarded. :oldlol:
lol an undersized/one dimensional dude vs a guy who does it all.
A guy who is injury prone vs a dude who hasn't missed a game in his life.
An average competitor vs the biggest competitor in the sport.
Give me Westbrook. Btw, this same exact thread was literally made last week and the majority picked Westbrook for obvious reasons, but since he's coming off his worst game of the season, delusional idiots say Irving because he dropped 40 against the Celtics. :facepalm
****ing idiots, all of you.
Kyrie
I love Russ, but I'd probably choose Kyrie as well.
gotta go with Kryie.
Kyrie and i don't think twice about it.
Has that rare ability to be a go to scorer while also having control of the team/making smart plays
he's like a pass first shoot first point guard.
Kyrie has the potential to a 28 5 8 guy during his prime
[QUOTE=ganja0710]I love Russ, but I'd probably choose Kyrie as well.[/QUOTE]
How dare you. When Russell is playing possessed in the playoffs getting triple doubles and winning games you'll :facepalm at the fact that you made this post.
Someones gonna bump this thread in 5 years and the people who said Irving(including you) will simply laugh in hindsight of how stupid they were in that moment.
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]Kyrie and i don't think twice about it.
Has that rare ability to be a go to scorer while also having control of the team/making smart plays
he's like a pass first shoot first point guard.
[B]Kyrie has the potential to a 28 5 8 guy during his prime[/B][/QUOTE]
:roll:
Delusion is such a sad trait to have.
[QUOTE=Budadiiii]How dare you. When Russell is playing possessed in the playoffs getting triple doubles and winning games you'll :facepalm at the fact that you made this post.
Someones gonna bump this thread in 5 years and the people who said Irving(including you) will simply laugh in hindsight of how stupid they were in that moment.[/QUOTE]
somebody has a man crush!!
[QUOTE=Budadiiii]lol an undersized/one dimensional dude vs a guy who does it all.
A guy who is injury prone vs a dude who hasn't missed a game in his life.
An average competitor vs the biggest competitor in the sport.
Give me Westbrook. Btw, this same exact thread was literally made last week and the majority picked Westbrook for obvious reasons, but since he's coming off his worst game of the season, delusional idiots say Irving because he dropped 40 against the Celtics. :facepalm
****ing idiots, all of you.[/QUOTE]
It's definitely not because as an 18-year old he averaged 19/4/5 on 47% FG and 40% 3-PT.
Or that he is has better basketball IQ, jumpshot, and efficiency. Or that he scores 24 points on 19 shots a game with no help around him, better than Westbrook has ever scored despite being a score-first guard.
Kyrie. Hell he's a better player than Westbrook right now
Kyrie is undersized? He is like 6'3.
And I guarantee if he was playing with KD, he will be doing his best to get him the ball. Not trying to chuck jumpers depite being a vastly inferior scorer to KD
[QUOTE=Budadiiii]:roll:
Delusion is such a sad trait to have.[/QUOTE]
Kyrie is already a better shooter than Westbrooke, already averages more points, shoots higher % from the field and from 3 and from the line.
Westbrooke averages more shots per game, yet Kyrie averages more points per game.
Kyrie is shooting 47%. Westbrooke 42%
Kyrie averages 6 assist per game passing to alonzo gee & dion waiters :lol
Westbrooke only averages 2 more assist per game while playing alongside the best scorer in the game KD, and 2 other guys who can go for 15+ppg on any given night
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]Kyrie and i don't think twice about it.
Has that rare ability to be a go to scorer while also having control of the team/making smart plays
he's like a pass first shoot first point guard.
[B]Kyrie has the potential to a 28 5 8 guy during his prime[/B][/QUOTE]
That would be WB Peak prime Potential
Kyrie's would be like 24 4 9.5
But not everyone maxs their potential.
[QUOTE=ZaaaaaH]That would be WB Peak prime Potential
[B]Kyrie's would be like 24 4 9.5[/B]
But not everyone maxs their potential.[/QUOTE]
Kyrie is already averaging 24ppg 4rpg 6apg and he's only 20 years old..
nowhere close to his peak yet and is basically putting up the same numbers (minus 3 assist) as you predict he will at his absolute best.
He has the worst supporting cast in the league yet still averages 6apg, when he finally gets some help around him that will surely go up.
Eventually teams will have to gameplan for more than just Kyrie, who is still averaging 24ppg on 47% shooting while being the focal point of the defense..
you're underrating his potential
You can also count on Westbrick to do something incredibly stupid whenever he tries to takeover. Talented player, but his basketball IQ is extremely low. He honestly might be one of the dumbest players in the league.
All of your idiotic opinions will change come playoff time. FG% is the only stat you IDIOTS pay attention to now a days. Jesus ****ing Christ. :facepalm
Comparing Kyrie to Westbrook is like comparing Melo to LeBron. Just absurd.
Westbrook affects the game so much more and will always be a bigger winner than Irving. Always. You idiots just like flashy scorers. "OMG KYRIE EXPELLED ALL HIS ENERGY ON OFFENSE ADN DROPPED 40!!!!! HErrpppp derp!!!!"
"HES BETTER THAN WESTBROOK NOW!!! HERRRpppp / DERPP"
:facepalm
[QUOTE=Budadiiii]All of your idiotic opinions will change come playoff time. FG% is the only stat you IDIOTS pay attention to now a days. Jesus ****ing Christ. :facepalm
Comparing Kyrie to Westbrook is like comparing Melo to LeBron. Just absurd.
[B]Westbrook affects the game so much more and will always be a bigger winner than Irving[/B]. Always. You idiots just like flashy scorers. OMG KYRIE EXPELLED ALL HIS ENERGY ON OFFENSE ADN DROPPED 40!!!!! HErrpppp derp!!!!
HES BETTER THAN WESTBROOK NOW!!! HERRRpppp / DERPP
:facepalm[/QUOTE]
You don't think OKC is a title contender with Kyrie and Durant? That team would be insanely hard to defend, especially in the clutch. Teams dare Westbrick to takeover. They actually hope for it.
im going with kyrie easily, he would average wayy more assists if he's teammates could finish around the rim and knock down shots.
Budadiii, shut the hell up. If Westbrook didn't have Durant on his team, he would be a 20/5/5 38 fg% 48 TS% type player. His basketball iq might be the lowest in the league for a non center
kyrie and its not even close.
[QUOTE=Budadiiii]All of your idiotic opinions will change come playoff time. FG% is the only stat you IDIOTS pay attention to now a days. Jesus ****ing Christ. :facepalm
Comparing Kyrie to Westbrook is like comparing Melo to LeBron. Just absurd.
Westbrook affects the game so much more and will always be a bigger winner than Irving. Always. You idiots just like flashy scorers. "OMG KYRIE EXPELLED ALL HIS ENERGY ON OFFENSE ADN DROPPED 40!!!!! HErrpppp derp!!!!"
"HES BETTER THAN WESTBROOK NOW!!! HERRRpppp / DERPP"
:facepalm[/QUOTE]
what do you not understand, They shoot the same amount of FG per game yet Kyrie is able to make his at a WAY higher clip than Westbrooke.
Also, Westbrooke isn't even the main focus of the defense when teams game plan for OKC, all the attention goes towards Durant.
If Westbrook & Kyrie switched teams i gurantee you that WB would be averaging like 26ppg 4rpg 4apg on 38% from the field
Irving. Because retards don't win ball games.
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]what do you not understand, They shoot the same amount of FG per game yet Kyrie is able to make his at a WAY higher clip than Westbrooke.
Also, Westbrooke isn't even the main focus of the defense when teams game plan for OKC, all the attention goes towards Durant.
If Westbrook & Kyrie switched teams i gurantee you that WB would be averaging like 26ppg 4rpg 4apg on 38% from the field[/QUOTE]
Wait... so you're only judging these guys based on half of a season?
Idiot confirmed.
And don't you dare say Irving is having a better year. Like I said, you idiots don't realize how top heavy the Thunder are. The team is absolute shit outside those two. All inconsistent one dimensional players. This team over achieves because of how hard Westbrook and Durant work. You think Durant is doing this alone? I guarantee a 24 year old Kyrie on this team is no where near as good as they are with Westbrook. You're the one who doesn't understand how winning happens. Which is the point of picking a franchise player... to win games... but I guess FG% tells the whole story.
There is no excuse at all for Westbrick to be shooting more than Durant. Absolutely none. Irving and Durant would immediately go down as the best shooting tandem of time. Trying to guard those players would be hell on opposing teams.
Yes. Keep calling everyone idiots, Budadiiii. That will convince them!
[QUOTE=Pushxx]Yes. Keep calling everyone idiots, Budadiiii. That will convince them![/QUOTE]
I'll let the rings convince them. Watch the level Russell plays at in the playoffs this year and then come talk to me. Don't worry, I'll be sure to bump this thread in June.
Most of you will make an excuse for Irving saying his team sucks yada yada yada.
That will be his excuse for his whole career. This guy won't win a thing.
[QUOTE=Budadiiii]Wait... so you're only judging these guys based on half of a season?
Idiot confirmed.[/QUOTE]
No i'm judging based off the fact that in the past 4 years WB hasn't shown that he can do anything better than Kyrie has shown in a year and a half.
Also, I'm going to go ahead and claim that if Kyrie & WB switched roles in the finals last year that OKC would have a ring.
There is ABSOLUTELY no excuse for WB taking 120FGA in the finals and Durant only taking 104FGA.
Durant averaged [B]31ppg on 56%[/B] in the finals.
Westbrook averaged [B]27ppg on 43%[/B]
Westbrook shot 16 more times than Durant in the finals and made 5 less shots.
If OKC had a point guard who was able to realize that 31ppg on 56%> 27ppg on 43% they might have won more than 1 game in the finals.
[QUOTE=Budadiiii]I'll let the rings convince them. Watch the level Russell plays at in the playoffs this year and then come talk to me. Don't worry, I'll be sure to bump this thread in June.
Most of you will make an excuse for Irving saying his team sucks yada yada yada.
That will be his excuse for his whole career. This guy won't win a thing.[/QUOTE]
Replace Irving with Westbrick and the Cavs still are terrible. They also would have almost no one to spread the floor with Westbrick.
The only thing that makes me question my decision a little bit is the fact that Kyrie seems to be injury prone while Westbrook is an ironman. Still, though, I'm taking Kyrie. Dude is 20 years old and is already one of the most composed/clutch player in the league.
kyrie wins easily, westbrook is just a scoring pg that shoots 40% with the inability to run your offense. the thunder would have at least 2 rings if they had paul, rose, williams or rondo.
[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Replace Irving with Westbrick and the Cavs still are terrible. They also would have almost no one to spread the floor with Westbrick.[/QUOTE]
Westbrook is a winner. He does everything it takes to win. Just stop it, Kyrie has no where near the physical/mental attributes Westbrook has. No where near the level of will power. Kyrie is a wimp compared to WB. Irving hasn't proved shit expect for the fact that he can expend all his energy on offense(while also getting burned equally on defense) and lead his team to one of the worst records in the league. This dude will always be a loser, plain and simple.
I know winners, and I know losers.
Irving isn't winning anything either as "the guy" or a second option. He's a ****ing loser and will continue to drop pretty impressive scoring numbers on lottery teams. Sorry, it just doesn't impress me. What Westbrook is doing is on another level, he plays with much more expectations/pressure and teams play OKC so much harder than they play the Cavs. I like winners. Give me WB.
Irving over Francis/Marbury with lower IQ, I mean Westbrick. Poor Durant has to carry this guy night in and night out and still Westbrick shoots more shots than the BEST SCORER IN THE NBA. What the **** is wrong with this guy shoots dumbass shots never passes to wide open Durant in transition instead pulls up with 2 guys guarding him and BRICKS.
You keep saying Westbrook is a winner, okay he has the best player in the league and some of the best defensive players in the league. If you swapped him and Irving Westbrook would shoot like 35% FG, he shoots 41% with the ****ing best player in the universe right now getting attention. Kyrie as a 19/20 year old already shoots a higher percentage from EVERYWHERE FT 3PT FG, on top of that he has no one on his team to take any pressure off him, Westbrook will never shoot percentages like that for his whole career.
GIVE ME MR. 4TH QUARTER ALL DAY.
Why do you keep bringing up the finals? The Heat have already said their strategy was to let Westbrook do his thing and keep Durant out of the game, they knew if they let low IQ Westbrook get what he wanted and took everyone else out of the game they would win and it worked perfectly, this guy is a retard on the court I don't even understand how his IQ is so low.
Westbrook is overrated as hell. I'd like to see him try to carry a team on his own.
Irving any day