Isnt Kobe kindof exaggerating?

When people (critics, fans, analysts etc. including me) narrated that Kobe is not supposed to take 30 FGA with this team/roster and that he should try to get his teammates involved/create for his teammates more frequently they dont mean that he should take only 10 FGA.... They dont mean that this team literally does NOT need his scoring at all and that he should only pass the ball...

They mean that Kobe should pass when he should and score when he should... just make the right play....

The Lakers are winning and Kobes change of mindset right now, i love it..... it proves my (and many others) old point on how Kobe should acommodate himself for this team to be more successful and that unselfish game he is playing right now is my exact type of acquired taste in a player........... but my point here is i think the Lakers would be even more successful if he would combine both of these traits (scoring/passing) and that it could even hurt the Lakers in the long run if he does not... I mean he is taking only ~10 FGA now 3 games in a row (by his standards thats just abnormal) and by majority just forcing the pass to an extent i never seen him do before... it cant be good when he turns down so many of his deadly efficient routine scoring opportunities just to... i dont know, prove a point? or am i wrong?

Thoughts?

Kobe is prone to pouting on the court through his actions.

This is a form of pouting, but it's a productive one.

Kobe system = 3-0

[IMG]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6s0fu9fsJ1rpga6zo1_400.jpg[/IMG]

1 starred, reported, printed out the page, mailed to AIDS foundations as a warning.

[QUOTE=HardwoodLegend]Kobe is prone to pouting on the court through his actions.

This is a form of pouting,[B] but it's a productive one[/B].[/QUOTE]

I agree, its evident...

OP, this is irrelevant in the context of the kobe system.

It's only three games, he should continue his current way since it's working, and work from there.

[QUOTE=Graviton][IMG]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6s0fu9fsJ1rpga6zo1_400.jpg[/IMG]

1 starred, reported, printed out the page, mailed to AIDS foundations as a warning.[/QUOTE]

Apparently you didnt read & comprehend what i said?

Haters never satisfied

[QUOTE=pauk]Apparently you didnt read & comprehend what i said?[/QUOTE]
I assume you sucked up to Godbe now that you see he will lead his team to the Finals and crush Lebron.

You bash him 99% of the time, your fakeass humbleness is a disgrace. You are a chicken in sheep's clothing, waiting for the chance to speak ill of Godbe.

Can you give me the 30 players better than Kobe again?

It's an old cliche, but it's relevant in this instance.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

It's been working well the last few games, but teams will adjust soon, and kobe will have to find more of a balance with his scoring and playmaking. It will be interesting to see how this goes once the lakers face a solid defensive team.

[QUOTE=YourBrainIsGod]It's an old cliche, but it's relevant in this instance.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

It's been working well the last few games, but teams will adjust soon, and kobe will have to find more of a balance with his scoring and playmaking. It will be interesting to see how this goes once the lakers face a solid defensive team.[/QUOTE]

Bingo.

[QUOTE=YourBrainIsGod]It's an old cliche, but it's relevant in this instance.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

It's been working well the last few games, but teams will adjust soon, and kobe will have to find more of a balance with his scoring and playmaking. It will be interesting to see how this goes once the lakers face a solid defensive team.[/QUOTE]

Theres nothing much they can adjust, dont double kobe? lol, suicide. You'll either see kobe with 15 assists or 81 pts, either way is a Lakers win.

#kobesystem
#feelbadfor31teams

[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]Theres nothing much they can adjust, dont double kobe? lol, suicide. You'll either see kobe with 15 assists or 81 pts, either way is a Lakers win.

#kobesystem
#feelbadfor31teams[/QUOTE]

Yeah. That's why my Bulls put single coverage on him with Jimmy Butler, and he went 7-22 with a .318 FG%, and a grand total of 16 pts.

Played 42 minutes that game.

:bowdown:

[QUOTE=tikay0]Yeah. That's why my Bulls put single coverage on him with Jimmy Butler, and he went 7-22 with a .318 FG%, and a grand total of 16 pts.

Played 42 minutes that game.

:bowdown:[/QUOTE]

Kobe needed the team to hit rock bottom to achieve real motivation. What drives to success when you're already successful? extreme motivation.

You're an awful student of the kobe system.

[QUOTE=tikay0]Yeah. That's why my Bulls put single coverage on him with Jimmy Butler, and he went 7-22 with a .318 FG%, and a grand total of 16 pts.

Played 42 minutes that game.

:bowdown:[/QUOTE]

That was before the Kobe system was implemented.

[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]That was before the Kobe system was implemented.[/QUOTE]

don't bother. that dude is stuck at half way through the first triangle of the kobe system diagram. how would he understand what success over success is if the guy hasn't been successful yet?

[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]Kobe needed the team to hit rock bottom to achieve real motivation. What drives to success when you're already successful? extreme motivation.

You're an awful student of the kobe system.[/QUOTE]
Stop acting like you have advanced far in the Kobesystem, you are still a mere padawan.

But I have connected with Godbe through a psychic link only Kobe choses. He has told me that our forces are ready, our will is unbreakable, none shall oppose the takeover of Kobesystem. We must be patient and allow these fools to think they are safe, before Kobe himself rains down hellfire upon the nonbelievers.

[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]don't bother. that dude is stuck at half way through the first triangle of the kobe system diagram. how would he understand what success over success is if the guy hasn't been successful yet?[/QUOTE]
:applause:

Maybe this vid will help him understand:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MwwHJXLjg4[/url]

[QUOTE=tikay0]Yeah. That's why my Bulls put single coverage on him with Jimmy Butler, and he went 7-22 with a .318 FG%, and a grand total of 16 pts.

Played 42 minutes that game.

:bowdown:[/QUOTE]
Except it wasn't single coverage.

tikay0 = aziz anzari in this vid

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZupVXl1_Fg4[/url]

[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]:applause:

Maybe this vid will help him understand:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MwwHJXLjg4[/url][/QUOTE]

:applause:

This version of the kobe system is also interesting: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKjU_XLEIS0[/url]

Pauk, kobe takes 20 shots per game, like melo.

reason he had games with much more? missing key players, NASH, D12, PAU.

reason he shoot much less lately? he is not letting nash to run the offense, he runs it and do it in a much slow pace.

tonight the lakers won 102-76 on half court game,+26!!!!!, they won the game by just 5 because they got beat 30-9 on fastbreak.

bottom line is kobe didn't hog the ball before, it was nash running the offense and because of D12 horrific offensive game nash prefer kobe to shoot.

kobe is doing a better job of making D12 look solid. Nash play too fast for this team.

[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]:applause:

This version of the kobe system is also interesting: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKjU_XLEIS0[/url][/QUOTE]
so is this one

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pfwgFq6j8Y[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]Kobe needed the team to hit rock bottom to achieve real motivation. What drives to success when you're already successful? extreme motivation.

You're an awful student of the kobe system.[/QUOTE]

Please teach me, oh wise one.....:rolleyes:

[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]tikay0 = aziz anzari in this vid

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZupVXl1_Fg4[/url][/QUOTE]

:coleman:

[QUOTE=tikay0]Please teach me, oh wise one.....:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
It's ok, one day when you are old, frail and broken, your grandchildren will ask [B]"What did you do gramps when Godbe descended on our planet, cured cancer, abolished unfair laws and brought an end to world hunger?".[/B] And you won't be able to speak or comprehend their questions, for your soul will be shrouded in darkness for ever doubting Godbe. The light of our lord touches only those worthy of his greatness, your stubborn mistrust will doom you. Godbe forgives, but he does not support the heretics. You will be left defenseless against the forces of LeCifer James, the dark lord of the underworld.

[QUOTE=Graviton]It's ok, one day when you are old, frail and broken, your grandchildren will ask [B]"What did you do gramps when Godbe descended on our planet, cured cancer, abolished unfair laws and brought an end to world hunger?".[/B] And you won't be able to speak or comprehend their questions, for your soul will be shrouded in darkness for ever doubting Godbe. The light of our lord touches only those worthy of his greatness, your stubborn mistrust will doom you. Godbe forgives, but he does not support the heretics. You will be left defenseless against the forces of LeCifer James, the dark lord of the underworld.[/QUOTE]
:applause: :applause:
brought a tear to my eye.

This Recent Run of Success playing Unselfish team ball by Kobe makes him look even worse IMO. If he Played like this all along Lakers would be a top 3 seed in the west. KObe being a Ball hog and Selfish didn't Work so He and the team decided to try a different approach and right now it is working. Kobe scoring and Shots down but his Assists WAY up and team is winning. Will be interesting if they lose a couple games i a row if he reverts back to his old form or he stays the course the rest of the season playing like this ?

[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]:applause:

Maybe this vid will help him understand:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MwwHJXLjg4[/url][/QUOTE]
I laugh every time. This and the Lebron/Kobe puppet commericials have my type of humor. Great stuff.

[QUOTE=Graviton]It's ok, one day when you are old, frail and broken, your grandchildren will ask [B]"What did you do gramps when Godbe descended on our planet, cured cancer, abolished unfair laws and brought an end to world hunger?".[/B] And you won't be able to speak or comprehend their questions, for your soul will be shrouded in darkness for ever doubting Godbe. The light of our lord touches only those worthy of his greatness, your stubborn mistrust will doom you. Godbe forgives, but he does not support the heretics. You will be left defenseless against the forces of LeCifer James, the dark lord of the underworld.[/QUOTE]

:( .........:cry: ............:applause:

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]KObe being a Ball hog and Selfish didn't Work [/QUOTE]

Worked 5 times.

[QUOTE=pauk]When people (critics, fans, analysts etc. including me) narrated that Kobe is not supposed to take 30 FGA with this team/roster and that he should try to get his teammates involved/create for his teammates more frequently they dont mean that he should take only 10 FGA.... They dont mean that this team literally does NOT need his scoring at all and that he should only pass the ball...

They mean that Kobe should pass when he should and score when he should... just make the right play....

The Lakers are winning and Kobes change of mindset right now, i love it..... it proves my (and many others) old point on how Kobe should acommodate himself for this team to be more successful and that unselfish game he is playing right now is my exact type of acquired taste in a player........... but my point here is i think the Lakers would be even more successful if he would combine both of these traits (scoring/passing) and that it could even hurt the Lakers in the long run if he does not... I mean he is taking only ~10 FGA now 3 games in a row (by his standards thats just abnormal) and by majority just forcing the pass to an extent i never seen him do before... it cant be good when he turns down so many of his deadly efficient routine scoring opportunities just to... i dont know, prove a point? or am i wrong?

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
I get it, he is effortlessly putting out great stats, that are kinda of overshadowing Lebron. So yeah i can see why you think he should take a notch down.

Maybe it should be Lebron taking a notch up on his already epic stat padding?


Hey Pauk it is possible for you to be a even bigger whiny little ph@ggot?

[QUOTE=Blue&Orange]I get it, he is effortlessly putting out great stats, that are kinda of overshadowing Lebron. So yeah i can see why you think he should take a notch down.
[/QUOTE]


How are his stats overshadowing Lebron though?

His stats may be overshadowing old selfish Kobe which is not the same as overshadowing Lebron?

[QUOTE=pauk]When people (critics, fans, analysts etc. including me) narrated that Kobe is not supposed to take 30 FGA with this team/roster and that he should try to get his teammates involved/create for his teammates more frequently they dont mean that he should take only 10 FGA.... They dont mean that this team literally does NOT need his scoring at all and that he should only pass the ball...

They mean that Kobe should pass when he should and score when he should... just make the right play....

The Lakers are winning and Kobes change of mindset right now, i love it..... it proves my (and many others) old point on how Kobe should acommodate himself for this team to be more successful and that unselfish game he is playing right now is my exact type of acquired taste in a player........... but my point here is i think the Lakers would be even more successful if he would combine both of these traits (scoring/passing) and that it could even hurt the Lakers in the long run if he does not... I mean he is taking only ~10 FGA now 3 games in a row (by his standards thats just abnormal) and by majority just forcing the pass to an extent i never seen him do before... it cant be good when he turns down so many of his deadly efficient routine scoring opportunities just to... i dont know, prove a point? or am i wrong?

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

I agree 100 percent. Kobe is one of my favorite players but I must admit that he is not as intuitive as Lebron. I as a fan can admit that Kobe has a one track mind, when he is in score mode, that is his focus, when share the ball mode that is his focus. For instance:

I can predict Kobe's mindset for an entire game by watching how he starts off. When Kobe hits two shots in a row from the same area, you can bet 100 million dollars that the next time up the court he will attempt from that area. That's why happened when he broke the three point record, he hit a couple n kept pulling. That's just something built into his DNA, almost like a scientist when he finds something working he continues the experiment

The thing that you ask will never happen. Don't get sad, angry, or frustrated because it is his gift and curse. Had he not had this one tract mind then he would not have been the Kobe that we know that makes incredible plays.

[QUOTE=pauk]When people (critics, fans, analysts etc. including me) narrated that Kobe is not supposed to take 30 FGA with this team/roster and that he should try to get his teammates involved/create for his teammates more frequently they dont mean that he should take only 10 FGA.... They dont mean that this team literally does NOT need his scoring at all and that he should only pass the ball...

They mean that Kobe should pass when he should and score when he should... just make the right play....

[B]The Lakers are winning and Kobes change of mindset right now, i love it[/B]..... it proves my (and many others) old point on how Kobe should acommodate himself for this team to be more successful and that unselfish game he is playing right now is my exact type of acquired taste in a player........... but my point here is i think the Lakers would be even more successful if he would combine both of these traits (scoring/passing) and that it could even hurt the Lakers in the long run if he does not... I mean he is taking only ~10 FGA now 3 games in a row (by his standards thats just abnormal) and by majority just forcing the pass to an extent i never seen him do before... it cant be good when he turns down so many of his deadly efficient routine scoring opportunities just to... i dont know, prove a point? or am i wrong?

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
No you don't. It scares you. Btw, The Lakers won 5 titles with Kobes scoring mindset. No matter what you net geeks think, he knows how to win and has proved it over and over and over. There isn't just one way to be a winner in any sport. There are multiple ways as there have been many champions with many different styles of play. Kobe is just showing how versatile a player he really is. To be fair, I've always thought he would shine more playing like Magic instead of Michael. Of all players to come in the 90s, only Kobe is capable of doing what Magic did.

Cry about it bitches, I said it.

Of course he is, some people never learn. Its like you tell a kid he speaks too much, and then in the next few days he does not even speak at all other than a simple 'Hello'.
:lol

I like how Lebron apologists seems to think his style of play is the key to winning based on a whopping one championship. Maybe if Lebron played like Kobe he would actually have the championship pedigree that would make this conversation not ridiculous.

It's funny, while I love the way Nashbe is playing right now, I feel like he's doing it to "babysit" Dwight to wins.

It's kinda sickening. Kobe never had to do this with Bynum on the squad... but look at Dwight's defensive intensity once Kobe starts passing. If anything, Dwight was the one pouting his way to touches, and now that he has them, is willing to play defense.