We going to act like Wade didn't almost cost the Heat the game?

When Spoelstra put Wade in for Miller at the end I was almost as mad as when Joey Crawford was trying to giftwrap the Spurs the game in the 2nd and 3rd quarters.

Wade was ****ing terrible and did nothing out there.

I'm not a fan of +/- but
Mike Miller: +15
Wade: -15

Wade was noticeably useless out there, while Miller not only spread the floor and prevented the Spurs from helping on James, but also played great defense and took great fouls on Duncan inside. I really hope the Heat can find a way to keep him on the roster with all the talks of him possibly getting amnestied. Other than LeBron, the two white guys(Miller and Birdman) were making the biggest impact on the court for large parts of the game. Bosh was terrible for most of the game, but stepped up with that huge offensive rebound to Ray Allen, and the two blocks in OT.

But Wade did ****ing nothing. Just ****ed up the spacing, missed shots, and played shitty defense.

He ruins their spacing and notably has a negative impact on LeBron's play. When he was out of the game for 16 minutes, LeBron had 7 at the basket attempts. For 33 minutes with Wade in the game, LeBron had 3

I've been saying it all year. I got this one ****** friend who's always like "BUT HE AVERAGED 21 points on FREAKIN 51%!!!!FAF!@$V@%C!!!!!"

who gives a shit about regular season stats. he did shit this playoffs and is a liability at this juncture. ship him out! start ray allen!

We gonna act like Wade didn't contribute to this win and carry the Heat in game 4? Wade makes key buckets and gets some important blocks.

[QUOTE=RoseCity07]We gonna act like Wade didn't contribute to this win and carry the Heat in game 4? Wade makes key buckets and gets some important blocks.[/QUOTE]
This.

[QUOTE=RoseCity07]We gonna act like Wade didn't contribute to this win and carry the Heat in game 4? Wade makes key buckets and gets some important blocks.[/QUOTE]

and plenty of key **** ups.

Did he almost cost them the game? Yes.
Would the Heat be here w/out him? No.

[QUOTE=TylerOO]I've been saying it all year. I got this one ****** friend who's always like "BUT HE AVERAGED 21 points on FREAKIN 51%!!!!FAF!@$V@%C!!!!!"

who gives a shit about regular season stats. he did shit this playoffs and is a liability at this juncture. ship him out! start ray allen![/QUOTE]

Aren't you a Lakers fan now or something? Brooklyn? Knicks? Boston?

Who do you support?

Oh my bad, I should be asking which player.

Almost doesn't count, nikka.

I mean, the Spurs ALMOST won it all tonight. Now ask them how they're feeling.

What did Wade do exactly that was so wrong? He missed a few shots, yes, but it's not like he played poor defense and turned the ball over. Stop hating dude. Miami wouldn't be here at all if it weren't for Wade.

[QUOTE=plowking]Aren't you a Lakers fan now or something? Brooklyn? Knicks? Boston?

Who do you support?

Oh my bad, I should be asking which player.[/QUOTE]

Fear the Beard.

It was a tough decision, but leaving Wade out of the game would have alienated him for game 7 to the point of Wade probably sabotaging plays.

If he didn't come back in and had they lost, all blame would be on Spo for not having him during the clutch.

If egos weren't evolved, that lineup of Miller/Chalmers/Allen/LeBron/Birdman would have finished off the Spurs.

At the end, you win as a team, you lose as a team.

[QUOTE=WayOfWade]Did he almost cost them the game? Yes.
Would the Heat be here w/out him? No.[/QUOTE]

Yes, the Heat would have already won the Finals without Wade letting his man stand in the paint while Wade is on the 3 point line. Wade is old, broken, and done.

yep totally agreed .. I don't wanna bash wade because he's done a lot for the heat but I was wishing spoelstra had kept miller in at that moment I saw him subbing wade back in .. miller was doing good things within miami's run .. why go away from it you know

[QUOTE=EnoughSaid]What did Wade do exactly that was so wrong? He missed a few shots, yes, but it's not like he played poor defense and turned the ball over. Stop hating dude. Miami wouldn't be here at all if it weren't for Wade.[/QUOTE]

For some reason LeBron stopped being aggressive after Wade came in, and they had one less three point shooter with Miller out. It messed up the chemistry they were having.

[QUOTE=EnoughSaid]What did Wade do exactly that was so wrong? He missed a few shots, yes, but it's not like he played poor defense and turned the ball over. Stop hating dude. Miami wouldn't be here at all if it weren't for Wade.[/QUOTE]They made their biggest run without him, and same with the 33-5 run. I'm not saying bench him for the whole game, but again the Spurs defend differently when he is in there because they can cheat off of him compared to when you replace him with a shooter

And let's not act like he has been playing consistently well this playoffs either. He had the longest stretch of his career in fact without even scoring 20 which he just recently ended a few games ago.

[QUOTE=50inchvertical]They made their biggest run without him, and same with the 33-5 run. I'm not saying bench him for the whole game, but again the Spurs defend differently when he is in there because they can cheat off of him compared to when you replace him with a shooter

And let's not act like he has been playing consistently well this playoffs either. He had the longest stretch of his career in fact without even scoring 20 which he just recently ended a few games ago.[/QUOTE]

Don't try to be logical with EnoughSaid. Dude is biggest Wade weenie sucker on here

The only thing I blame D-Wade for tonight is the rebound he missed before Tony Parker's shot to tie the game at 89 I believe. If he would've gotten that rebound I think it would've been the game. But he played well and saved the Heat in Game 4.

[QUOTE=RoseCity07]We gonna act like Wade didn't contribute to this win and carry the Heat in game 4? Wade makes key buckets and gets some important blocks.[/QUOTE]

So since Wade has been like the old Dwyane Wade for one game out of the entire playoffs he is exempt from criticism? Look we get it, some Heat fans think their "real fans" if they put Wade on a pedestal, but I've been a fan of this team for every year of Wades career. My goal is to win. Giving Wade a free pass for blowing dick just because hes been with the Heat for 10 years is something I'm not on board with. That shit could ruin another championship.

When Wades midrange game isn't there he is a liability out there. Ruins the spacing for the rest of the team and at 6'3 it's not like he can make a difference on the boards or in the paint.

I was happy that Spoelstra didn't play Cole/Haslem in this game. Those two dudes were BRUTAL in Game 5.

[QUOTE=Ancient Legend]For some reason LeBron stopped being aggressive after Wade came in, and they had one less three point shooter with Miller out. It messed up the chemistry they were having.[/QUOTE]

It's not that hes less aggressive, its that he has less room to make his moves since the paint becomes more packed when Wade is in there versus a guy like Mike Miller that people dont want to shoot.

[QUOTE=Ancient Legend]For some reason LeBron stopped being aggressive after Wade came in, and they had one less three point shooter with Miller out. It messed up the chemistry they were having.[/QUOTE]

yes it's because they ran an iso play for wade and he took a jumper. when wade has the ball lebron looks clueless. he needs to learn how to play a lot better off the ball. i have no idea why they went away from what was killing the spurs. i guess they didn't want to finish the game without wade and it was a tough choice.

I think it is pretty clear that Wade ****s up the spacing, which massively reduces LeBron's impact, especially with a defense like that and his jumper off.

It also works like that the other way around, although in smaller scale.

[QUOTE=Psycho]Yes, the Heat would have already won the Finals without Wade letting his man stand in the paint while Wade is on the 3 point line. Wade is old, broken, and done.[/QUOTE]
I'll simply direct you to Game 4. Heat can't win it all w/out Wade.

Wade has little positive impact out there.

When he catches the ball 1 on 1, he pump fakes like 5 times, doesn't even try to drive, ends up taking a stepback fadeway that barely hits the rim. If he gets a wide open jumper, he again pump fakes 5 times and ends up doing nothing with it. His actual ending moves consist of turnovers, hard bricks on jumpers, missed layups, falling down for fouls, maybe a lucky floater/layup made every quarter. And his defense is all about getting lost, gambling and leaving someone wide open. :facepalm

Wade, outside of Game 4, is a complete liability on court for the Heat...:facepalm At this point Spoelstra needs to say "f**k it" and tell this bum to sit his ass down on the bench. Get a bunch of shooters out there with Lebron and he will cruise to victory, just like he did in 4th quarter and OT tonight. Wade is washed up and he almost cost another ring for Lebron. Time to move on and trade this liability Riley

Wade needs to stop shooting jumpers, PERIOD. Even if he's wide open.

Also, the Heat don't need his points as much as his defense, he played none tonight except for that one blocked shot.

i said it many times he needs to improve his jumper to stay 3-5 more years in the league. Nobody cares to guard him outside the paint anymore

[QUOTE=WayOfWade]I'll simply direct you to Game 4. Heat can't win it all w/out Wade.[/QUOTE]

Lebron would have been better in every single game of the series if Wade was gone. Heat in 4. Wade is old, broken, and done son.

He played great defense (minus 1 play were he thought he got fouled)if you watched the game unlike game 5 were he was below average. this notion that wade has sucked minus game 4 is stupid. hes played good in games 1,4 and 5. wades jumper has been good in games 4 and 5. game 7 if he plays well it will be an ok series for him overall considering injurys.

Wade kept the ball alive on Lebron's 3.

[QUOTE=Ancient Legend]It was a tough decision, but leaving Wade out of the game would have alienated him for game 7 to the point of Wade probably sabotaging plays.

If he didn't come back in and had they lost, all blame would be on Spo for not having him during the clutch.

If egos weren't evolved, that lineup of Miller/Chalmers/Allen/LeBron/Birdman would have finished off the Spurs.

At the end, you win as a team, you lose as a team.[/QUOTE]

This. Wade hurts spacing.........Coach Spo almost cost them the game !!!

Spo rode the Miller wave til it ran out. Before he took Miller out, they had not scored on consecutive possessions and the Spurs had stopped the bleeding. Wade didnt stop the run. It had already stopped. Was as good as time as any to bring him back in.

Don't you mean that LEBRON almost cost them the game with his two crucial TO's and two bricks in the final 40 seconds? :oldlol:

Blame your guy Lebron for disappearing in the last 3 minutes of the game.

3 killer turnovers, 2 missed threes and a bailout by ray allen.

By the time wade entered, the game already had slowed down, so it wasn't a run anymore.

But still, all the plays late were run to Lebron, so don't act like Wade tried to steal the show.

The offense didn't run through him all game, that's why he didn't scored much points.

[QUOTE=f0und]Spo rode the Miller wave til it ran out. Before he took Miller out, they had not scored on consecutive possessions and the Spurs had stopped the bleeding. Wade didnt stop the run. It had already stopped. Was as good as time as any to bring him back in.[/QUOTE]

This. So many idiots on this forum.

Wade is too busy worried about how tight his pants is gunna fit his crotch area for the post game to be 100% involved in the game.

Miami needs to start shopping him around.

Wade is having one of the worst post-seasons in history and he's still going to end up with another ring. He's pretty much been a negative all post-season. lol crazy.

Wade has certainly been mostly miss all playoffs...although I do think his defense and passing is undervalued here.

But where are the threads about Parker's inept play in the finals? He's been pretty bad and was awful last night. Kobe-esque 6-23 in the biggest game of the year? If he's the 3rd best player in the league and the clear cut best pg in the game like a lot here are saying...better hold him to the same standards.

And that is how you know a player isn't as good as people claim...nobody cares that Parker basically cost the Spurs the game last night. All he needed to do was play halfway decent and they win...probably easily.

Both Wade and Bron had terrible possessions late. Deal with it.

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]
And that is how you know a player isn't as good as people claim...nobody cares that Parker basically cost the Spurs the game last night. All he needed to do was play halfway decent and they win...probably easily.[/QUOTE]
> He had two majestic clutch shots that could've been the story of the game.
If Ray had missed that 3 that's almost certainly what would've been remembered - Parker coming up big down the stretch in the two close games of the series. Duncan would probably have won FMVP based on his stats though.

[QUOTE=BoutPractice]> He had two majestic clutch shots that could've been the story of the game.
If Ray had missed that 3 that's almost certainly what would've been remembered - Parker coming up big down the stretch in the two close games of the series. Duncan would probably have won FMVP based on his stats though.[/QUOTE]

Yea...and? He's had some non impact games and last night he just wasn't good. He makes little to no impact defensively and he went 6-23. I just don't see a guy like Wade or really any other player that is a supposed top 5 player in the league getting a pass for that.

Which makes me believe people don't think he's actually top 5 like they say.

And Duncan is definitely the fmvp for the Spurs so far in this series.