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[QUOTE]Fischer said he and associates have identified athletes from the [B]NBA[/B], NCAA, professional boxing, tennis and MMA, in addition to other professional baseball players who have not yet been identified.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/9508288/biogenesis-whistleblower-broke-open-scandal-says-ncaa-mma-nba-other-athletes-used-clinic-mlb-investigation[/url]
here comes the witchhunt.
Will the NBA even care to try to find who?
I also read it has no big time players in it, so I doubt we hear much about this. Scrubs like Rashard already got caught cheating and no one cared.
Stern will not mention LeBron and Dwyane Wade. He's gonna protect them and his product.
[QUOTE=DetroitPistonFan]Stern will not mention LeBron and Dwyane Wade. He's gonna protect them and his product.[/QUOTE]
Sad but true.
Lebron is as non-ridiculous a PED candidate as you can find.
At this point I have accepted all pro and high level amateur athletes dope.
[QUOTE=Magic 32]Sad but true.
Lebron is as non-ridiculous a PED candidate as you can find.[/QUOTE]
You must have a sad sad life. All you can think about 24/7 is Lebron.
[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]At this point I have accepted all pro and high level amateur athletes dope.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much. At this point, I'm curious as to who can compete at a high level without cheating. Surely there is someone left, right?
My money is on T Prince Jr.
[QUOTE=ballup]My money is on T Prince Jr.[/QUOTE]
If this is meant to be a joke you obviously have no idea what PEDs are used for.
[QUOTE=aj1987]You must have a sad sad life. All you can think about 24/7 is Lebron.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.sportsworldnews.com/articles/2774/20130605/lebron-james-steroids-miami-heat-star-implicated-ped-scandal-former-anthony-bosch.htm[/url]
Lebron and Wade.
Dwight's the worst
Dirk
What city was this clinic located in again?
[QUOTE=Magic 32][url]http://www.sportsworldnews.com/articles/2774/20130605/lebron-james-steroids-miami-heat-star-implicated-ped-scandal-former-anthony-bosch.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
If there's something to it expect to hear more about it. I personally don't put it past anybody at this point.
[QUOTE=kNicKz]What city was this clinic located in again?[/QUOTE]
:lol
Well, at least we know Carmelo's puggy ass isn't abusing.
But in all seriousness if Olympics would have caught star players by now from juicing. They don't **** around with that shit and David Stern can't protect them.
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Well, at least we know Carmelo's puggy ass isn't abusing.
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It's a bad thing that he is an all natural athlete?
Wade's jaw is the size of Delaware
[QUOTE=KyleKong]:lol
Well, at least we know Carmelo's puggy ass isn't abusing.
But in all seriousness if Olympics would have caught star players by now from juicing. They don't **** around with that shit and David Stern can't protect them.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=kNicKz]It's a bad thing that he is an all natural athlete?
Wade's jaw is the size of Delaware[/QUOTE]
He's had a weirdly shaped face his entire life though, unless we think he started juicing in elementary school >>>>
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[QUOTE=Magic 32][url]http://www.sportsworldnews.com/articles/2774/20130605/lebron-james-steroids-miami-heat-star-implicated-ped-scandal-former-anthony-bosch.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
This might be the worst journalim ever. Someone that once worked thinks that someone she didn't know and couldn't even say his name was buying for someone that never came in and HAD DIFFERENT INITIALS, but she was sure it was LeBron. This has got to be a joke.
In other words there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER.
Its bad enough baseball players are getting strung up based on someone having written their name on a piece of notebook paper. But this?? C'mon.
[QUOTE=HurricaneKid]This might be the worst journalim ever. Someone that once worked thinks that someone she didn't know and couldn't even say his name was buying for someone that never came in and HAD DIFFERENT INITIALS, but she was sure it was LeBron. This has got to be a joke.
In other words there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER.
Its bad enough baseball players are getting strung up based on someone having written their name on a piece of notebook paper. But this?? C'mon.[/QUOTE]
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Tons of players use PEDs, they play so many games in such a long season and so much money is on the line.
So far they haven't even been testing for it in the NBA, as an athlete why WOULDN'T you do it?
Kobe probably went to Germany to undertake the biogenesis procedure known as Cadlotrokisis, basically you take muscle cells from other people and biogenetate your muscles, making them stronger. Which is why he had a resurgence this year. It's not illegal or banned by the nba.
[QUOTE=Magic 32]Sad but true.
Lebron is as non-ridiculous a PED candidate as you can find.[/QUOTE]
if LeBron's been using PEDs then he's been using it since he was in middle school and no one ever caught him.
dumbass.
[QUOTE=Solefade]if LeBron's been using PEDs then he's been using it since he was in middle school and no one ever caught him.
dumbass.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KyleKong]:lol
Well, at least we know Carmelo's puggy ass isn't abusing.
But in all seriousness if Olympics would have caught star players by now from juicing. They don't **** around with that shit and David Stern can't protect them.[/QUOTE]
The Olympics did a great job with Lance Armstrong. :rolleyes:
MWP returned from a knee injury that was supposed to take 6-8 weeks in 10 days. Kobe is apparently returning first game back from an injury that's supposed to take 10-12 months. If he returns first game that would be only 6 months, minimum 4 months early. If that aint suspicious, I don't know what is.
[QUOTE=tazb]MWP returned from a knee injury that was supposed to take 6-8 weeks in 10 days. Kobe is apparently returning first game back from an injury that's supposed to take 10-12 months. If he returns first game that would be only 6 months, minimum 4 months early. If that aint suspicious, I don't know what is.[/QUOTE]
Not getting injured at all is more suspicious.
[QUOTE=Magic 32]Not getting injured at all is more suspicious.[/QUOTE]
But I thought PEDs and steroids make you more injury prone? :lol
What needs to be explained is what drugs are illegal. Why they are illegal. The idea is people throw around "cheater" on players even without any evidence. Guilty until proven innocent and if innocent I still feel you are guilty is how some fans operate sadly.
Anyway my point is these drugs that are banned need to be explained. Because some guys get busted for using drugs that dont make their performance better rather allows them to recover from injury faster. A player who takes a banned substance that does that is the same as a player who takes drugs that actually helps them perform?
All we hear is a guy tested positive but nothing of the drug is revealed so we can understand what it is, why it was taken and how it helps a player enough to be considered "cheating". Honestly I dont fault athletes for taking stuff that allows them to recover from injuries faster, to help subside pain from an injury they have etc etc.
But still I dont have much knowledge of whats illegal, why and the true effects. Educating fans on drugs needs to be addressed. The way stuff is put out there you think these were labs where guys take a green and blue pill on some Bourne shyt. :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=DuMa]Biogenesis saying there are some NBA players using PEDs[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=tazb]MWP returned from a knee injury that was supposed to take 6-8 weeks in 10 days. Kobe is apparently returning first game back from an injury that's supposed to take 10-12 months. If he returns first game that would be only 6 months, minimum 4 months early. If that aint suspicious, I don't know what is.[/QUOTE]
How is that "cheating"? Whats suspicious about it? These guys get paid multi million dollar deals. Fans like you bash them for being overpaid, making too much, should take a paycut as you play mega millions in hope you one day can strike it rich. Yet guys are rushing back from injury faster than expected and people are alarmed? Maybe he should sit out the entire season like Bynum. Wait then you'd be bashing him like you did Derrick Rose who took this path.
You fans cant have it every way.
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Post a photo of you as a teenager. Then as a grown ass man.
He's a pro athlete. They have state of the art facilities, doctors, physicians, trainers some even personal. Own chefs. Yeah its hard to fathom anyone as a broke teenager getting bigger as they grow and are exposed to such things. :rolleyes:
Orlando had two players already busted (Turkoglu and R.Lewis.) I wouldn't be surprised if more players who either live or play in Florida are involved.
I'm looking at you South Beach.
People are dying for it to be LeBron and Wade. I swear the Heat really get people's jimmies rustled on here 24/7. God forbid they can't just be good players who work hard.
I personally don't care if anyone takes something that makes them heal from injury faster.
Who gives a s? The whole country takes every pill there is, but when athletes take juice to stay healthy(82games/season with 40min mpg or whatever) + entertaining(everyone expects them to get bigger faster stronger with each season) all of a sudden he's a bad person? get real
every athlete uses PEDs.you have to be naive to believe otherwise.you can say from a morally point of you that is cheating and stupid cause is bad for you health.But most of NBA players were really poor growing up and if u told them take them and u secure your life and your family for life they would do it without hesitation.I would do it too.But to be the best you can t count on PEDs alone.you have to practice and have put hours and hours on the gym.Its not like some use better drugs than others.They all use the same more or less buts it s their DNA,their genes and their effort that set them apart
And many people say that if they use PEDs they would be caught at the olympics .First of all USA is playing in the Olympics with the condition that they ll use their own labs doctors for tests etc so its the same thing
And you ll never hear about a superstar that uses PDEs cause its bad advertisement for the league.And those who are caught messed up.Everyone knows more or less when they ll be tested so they stop them and then re use them
It's absolutely amazing that anyone could be so naive and dumb to think NBA players don't use PEDs.