is Anthony Bennett the worst use of a #1 overall pick ever?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JZr_GKwmtY#at=94[/url]

Here is a video of recent Cavaliers number one overall pick Anthony Bennet shooting hoops with CBCs Peter Manbridge.

What we learned from this video
-Anthony Bennet cannot palm a basketball. The last number one overall pick that couldn't palm a basketball? Kwame Brown
-He is chubby
-He can't make jumpshots either(0-3 in the video).

And then of course theres the things everyone knew(hes an undersized tweener). What are the chances this guy turns out good? He wasn't projected until around 7-8, yet the Cavs take him first overall. Terrible front office.

video evidence. case closed!

how tall is Peter Mansbridge? Google has him at 6' even. Bennett looks just like 4" taller.

Yes. A one minute and 45 second video is enough to determine what this guy's whole career will be like. Negged *******.

i see 1 FG made
and at least 1 rebound and 1 assist :no: ,
his teammates was the one who brickin his assist

so another made up stat to discredit: Lebron teammates, Lebron former teammates, Lebron former team from Tony

Dat unselfishness. :bowdown:

[QUOTE=Dr. Cheesesteak]how tall is Peter Mansbridge? Google has him at 6' even. Bennett looks just like 4" taller.[/QUOTE]

You are blind if you think he only looks 4" taller. He is almost a full head taller than him and looks like the 6'7-8" he was measured at.

Nah I mean honestly no matter how bad he turns out, this draft wasn't talent heavy enough for him to be considered the WORST

Even Kwame's draft wasn't that good. But to me the worst use of a #1 pick ever was for Olawakandi when you consider the players that were taken that year. Dirk, Paul Pierce, Vince Carter etc

[QUOTE=Dr. Cheesesteak]how tall is Peter Mansbridge? Google has him at 6' even. Bennett looks just like 4" taller.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=B-Low]Nah I mean honestly no matter how bad he turns out, this draft wasn't talent heavy enough for him to be considered the WORST

Even Kwame's draft wasn't that good. But to me the worst use of a #1 pick ever was for Olawakandi when you consider the players that were taken that year. Dirk, Paul Pierce, Vince Carter etc[/QUOTE]

I don't get the negativity?

Freshman stats:

16/8 with 54%/38%/71% shooting while playing hurt the second half of the year. (these numbers are likely higher too if he wasn't kept out of the bulk of a few games in the second half of the season)

6'8" 240 is now a tweener? The kid is 1" shorter than Karl Malone

He's got a 7'1" wingspan and a 39" vertical.

Basically he has the in-game pedigree and the body pedigree (much TOO MUCH is being made about the height).

AND he has a great f*cking attitude and a 100% team first guy who is not afraid to lead.

He measures up in every metric, yet people what to say stupid shit like he can't shoot, because of a couple of half hearted tosses while mic'd up after a long interview in the middle of an injury are a better marker than shooting 38% from 3 for the season.

We need a punch people in the face emoticon around here.

[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]You are blind if you think he only looks 4" taller. He is almost a full head taller than him and looks like the 6'7-8" he was measured at.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: Are you serious? :facepalm

I didn't realize the nose to dome = full head. I mean, this is almost too stupid for me to even bother responding to.

Anyway, my only guess is Manbridge is really like 6'1" and is wearing 2" soles.

[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo][IMG]https://sphotos-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p480x480/556689_10153116549715013_1810872502_n.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
yeah, Manbridge's dome goes to Bennett's mouth, perhaps a bit higher. That leaves only about 6" left to Bennett's dome.

edit:
although...Bennett's dome is pretty elevated. Not nice and flat like Manbridge's. I think he gets that extra 2" from that alien dome.

Yet to play in the NBA so we have no clue

[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo]I don't get the negativity?

Freshman stats:

16/8 with 54%/38%/71% shooting while playing hurt the second half of the year. (these numbers are likely higher too if he wasn't kept out of the bulk of a few games in the second half of the season)

6'8" 240 is now a tweener? The kid is 1" shorter than Karl Malone

He's got a 7'1" wingspan and a 39" vertical.

Basically he has the in-game pedigree and the body pedigree (much TOO MUCH is being made about the height).

AND he has a great f*cking attitude and a 100% team first guy who is not afraid to lead.

He measures up in every metric, yet people what to say stupid shit like he can't shoot, because of a couple of half hearted tosses while mic'd up after a long interview in the middle of an injury are a better marker than shooting 38% from 3 for the season.

We need a punch people in the face emoticon around here.[/QUOTE]

I'm really hoping Bennett can somehow end up playing the 3 for us. On draft night they compared him to Larry Johnson and I'd be perfectly content if that's the kind of player he turned into. We don't need him to be a franchise player, which right away takes a lot of the pressure off of him that most #1 picks feel. He'll be fine either way, but if he can get himself to a physical condition where he'd be able to step in as starting SF, that'd be absolutely ideal

[QUOTE=B-Low]I'm really hoping Bennett can somehow end up playing the 3 for us. On draft night they compared him to Larry Johnson and I'd be perfectly content if that's the kind of player he turned into. We don't need him to be a franchise player, which right away takes a lot of the pressure off of him that most #1 picks feel. He'll be fine either way, but if he can get himself to a physical condition where he'd be able to step in as starting SF, that'd be absolutely ideal[/QUOTE]

He can play the 3.

1-true position is the domain of internet retards, and doesn't mean much in the way basketball is played today.
2-He becomes very valuable in small ball.
3-how many GREAT 3s are in the NBA today? We act like the league is rotten with them, when in reality there are only a few, but because the two best players in the league are 3s we automatically assume it is loaded. and those two best (LeBron and KD) have less than ideal body types for the position.
4-Bennett is long and a good athlete, he can adjust.
5-he basically played a lot of what a 3 does in college.

This kid could be a Charles Barkley type player and while Barkley is considered a 4 he was mostly a 3 in Philly and those were his best years.

Larry Johnson is a stretch.

Whats with this board recycling the same damn threads?

If you ask me it is fitting that the worst #1 pick of all time is canadian.

[QUOTE=TonyMontana] What are the chances this guy turns out good? He wasn't projected until around 7-8, yet the Cavs take him first overall. Terrible front office.[/QUOTE]


So here's the thing....if it's a bad pick, tell us NOW who you'd rather have instead. Meaning, you can't wait until a couple years go by and say, "see, the Cavs should have took THIS guy". Whoever ends up being better than Bennett.

You have to pick someone right now. So if it was you TonyMontana, who would you take #1. Pick ONE GUY. And that will be the guy we'll compare to Bennett and see if he ends up better.

my hands look smaller than his and i can palm a ball. i think he has big palms but short fingers

[QUOTE=bagelred]So here's the thing....if it's a bad pick, tell us NOW who you'd rather have instead. Meaning, you can't wait until a couple years go by and say, "see, the Cavs should have took THIS guy". Whoever ends up being better than Bennett.

You have to pick someone right now. So if it was you TonyMontana, who would you take #1. Pick ONE GUY. And that will be the guy we'll compare to Bennett and see if he ends up better.[/QUOTE]
In a couple years, his account will be banned and he'll be another 5 or 6 usernames past it with a completely different persona and trolling a completely different group of fans.

Hasheem Thabeet.

[URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227289"]Kyrie Irving is the next big bust[/URL]

[QUOTE=gyu]Hasheem Thabeet.[/QUOTE]
Was #2.....but no I don't think Bennett is the worst #1 pick, has enough skills/athletic ability to do well.

They wanted to trade their pick down, and when they couldn't, they picked the guy they wanted regardless of whether they had #1. Bennett might not be a finished product right now, but he has talent. You can say the same thing about McLemore: the guy does not look ready right now, but you know he has upside, just needs development.

Naa he isn't the worst. Oden just might take that spot. It would be hard knowing you could have had KD instead.

Bennett wasn't the worst player in the draft but he sure as hell wasn't the best. I think he is kinda fat too.

Dude look mad chubby.

Why don't you become GM instead? :lol

I was on the record before the draft as wanting Noel, but this guy looks pretty talented to me...

[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fmWXFy5amI"]Anthony Bennett - Draft Express[/URL]

Truthfully, I was so happy the Cavs didn't take either Len or McLemore, Bennett was fine with me. Those two guys scared the hell out of me.

[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo][IMG]https://sphotos-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p480x480/556689_10153116549715013_1810872502_n.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Brown women. Always a good choice. :pimp:

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]I was on the record before the draft as wanting Noel, but this guy looks pretty talented to me...

[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fmWXFy5amI"]Anthony Bennett - Draft Express[/URL]

Truthfully, I was so happy the Cavs didn't take either [B]Len[/B] or McLemore, Bennett was fine with me. Those two guys scared the hell out of me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]I see him being a Paul Millsap type player in the league. Very talented offensive player. Very suspect defense.

Definitely a Top 6 player in this draft, imo, but there are several guys I'd take over him... Noel, Porter, Oladipo,[B] Len.[/B][/QUOTE]
lol

[QUOTE=dbk123]lol[/QUOTE]
I soured on Len as the draft approached. I never considered Bennett as a potential pick for the Cavs because I assumed Thompson's presence meant PF was off the board. I was looking at it through the lens of other teams at that point.

Hey, if Chris Grant thought he was the best player in the draft -- which he did -- I'm good with it. He knows a hell of a lot more than I do (or anyone else on this site).

Anthony Bennet is a worse pick than Olowokandi or Kwame. Kwame was the same as Dwight. High school center phenom with unlimted potential. One worked, one didn't. Captain Hindsight shit over here. People forget this, but Howard wasn't even projected to go number one. Okafor was. Olowokandi good size, clippers weren't the only team that would pick him first overall. I'm positive Cleveland is the only team that was going to take Anthony Bennet first overall. The least they could have done was trade down. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo]He can play the 3.

1-true position is the domain of internet retards, and doesn't mean much in the way basketball is played today.
2-He becomes very valuable in small ball.
3-how many GREAT 3s are in the NBA today? We act like the league is rotten with them, when in reality there are only a few, but because the two best players in the league are 3s we automatically assume it is loaded. and those two best (LeBron and KD) have less than ideal body types for the position.
4-Bennett is long and a good athlete, he can adjust.
5-he basically played a lot of what a 3 does in college.

This kid could be a Charles Barkley type player and while Barkley is considered a 4 he was mostly a 3 in Philly and those were his best years.[/QUOTE]

:oldlol:

This fat boy at the 3 guarding guys like LeBron, Carmelo, and Durant?

Dont make me laugh. This guy is a 4. His handle is weak, he doesn't have NBA three point range, he is too heavy and slow to guard opposing 3s. This guy is a 4.

Charles Barkley a 3?

:roll:

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack][URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227289"]Kyrie Irving is the next big bust[/URL][/QUOTE]

Whats so good about the Irving pick? Congratulations the Cavs drafted an offensive savy scoring 6 foot guard who plays no defense that will demand 15M of their cap.

To be fair that draft was pure garbage. If I was the Cavs I would have traded Irving to a team that overvalues little scoring guards that sell jerseys. He will not be taking that team anywhere unless there is a near allstar at every position.

[QUOTE=TonyMontana]
This fat boy at the 3 guarding guys like LeBron, Carmelo, and Durant?
.[/QUOTE]
Draymond Green did who is not 1/2 the athlete :confusedshrug: and similar size if not smaller....Jared Dudley is also smaller and less athletic and has shown he can defend good SF's at a decent rate so I'm not sure what all this he has no chance to defend SF's is.... There was also Adrian Griffin a little while back who was 6'5 and chubby/slow and played excellent defense for the Mavericks and Bulls and didn't have 1/2 the tools Bennett has to defend @SF.

Funny thing is OP will be cheering for Cavs and Bennett in a years time if LeBron takes his talents back to Cleveland.

Now that i think about it Bennett would be a good fit next to LeBron. He can stretch the floor on offense opening things up for him and Lebron would make up for any rebounding lost by playing Bennett at the 4.

He'll have a better career than Greg Oden and Michael Olawakandi, but worse then Andrea Bargnani.

[QUOTE=TonyMontana]Anthony Bennet is a worse pick than Olowokandi or Kwame. Kwame was the same as Dwight. High school center phenom with unlimted potential. One worked, one didn't. Captain Hindsight shit over here. People forget this, but Howard wasn't even projected to go number one. Okafor was. Olowokandi good size, clippers weren't the only team that would pick him first overall. I'm positive Cleveland is the only team that was going to take Anthony Bennet first overall. The least they could have done was trade down. :oldlol:



:oldlol:

This fat boy at the 3 guarding guys like LeBron, Carmelo, and Durant?

Dont make me laugh. This guy is a 4. His handle is weak, he doesn't have NBA three point range, he is too heavy and slow to guard opposing 3s. This guy is a 4.

Charles Barkley a 3?

:roll:



Whats so good about the Irving pick? Congratulations the Cavs drafted an offensive savy scoring 6 foot guard who plays no defense that will demand 15M of their cap.

To be fair that draft was pure garbage. If I was the Cavs I would have traded Irving to a team that overvalues little scoring guards that sell jerseys. He will not be taking that team anywhere unless there is a near allstar at every position.[/QUOTE]

Worse pick than Kwame or Kandi?:roll: You my friend are a moron.

So you reiterate my point that the top few SFs are good? Who actually shuts down LBJ and KD anyways?

What is so good about the Irving pick?:roll: lemme guess, you wanted Derrick Williams?:roll:

Charles Barkley started alongside PFs like Armon Gilliam and Rick Mahorn while in Philly. Do your homework little boy (PS. Mike Gminski and Charles Shackleford were those teams starting 5 man).

Here is an idea, stick to trolling Kobe fans and jerking off to LeBron highlights, that is your value, strength and sole purpose in life.

This is Bennett:

6'8" 240
7'1" wingspan
39" vertical (not bad for a 'fatboy')

16/8 as a Freshman while playing half the season injured.
54/38/71 shooting splits

so basically he has the body, athleticism and in-game pedigree.

add to that a high character, good work ethic, team first player and a natural leader and you have yourself a nice little player.

Irving
Waiters
Bennett
Thompson
Varajao

This starting five does DAMAGE.

Add Jarrett Jack as 6 man...:rockon:

Bring on Andrew Bynum and work him in (leaving the door open to package Varajao for more impact).:rockon:

Cavs made the right choice on Irving (despite the cries for Williams and Kanter), and they made the right choice on Bennett, a future star.

Book it.

Tony Montana = Homosexual troll who knows nothing about basketball (except being an LBJ fanboy) and who loves having long meaty shafts reach the back of his throat.

^^^^
Bennet is 6'7 in shoes and his vert was not measured at the combine. 39 could be right but it's not official

[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo]Worse pick than Kwame or Kandi?:roll: You my friend are a moron.

So you reiterate my point that the top few SFs are good? Who actually shuts down LBJ and KD anyways?

What is so good about the Irving pick?:roll: lemme guess, you wanted Derrick Williams?:roll:

Charles Barkley started alongside PFs like Armon Gilliam and Rick Mahorn while in Philly. Do your homework little boy (PS. Mike Gminski and Charles Shackleford were those teams starting 5 man).

Here is an idea, stick to trolling Kobe fans and jerking off to LeBron highlights, that is your value, strength and sole purpose in life.

This is Bennett:

6'8" 240
7'1" wingspan
39" vertical (not bad for a 'fatboy')

16/8 as a Freshman while playing half the season injured.
54/38/71 shooting splits

so basically he has the body, athleticism and in-game pedigree.

add to that a high character, good work ethic, team first player and a natural leader and you have yourself a nice little player.

Irving
Waiters
Bennett
Thompson
Varajao

This starting five does DAMAGE.

Add Jarrett Jack as 6 man...:rockon:

Bring on Andrew Bynum and work him in (leaving the door open to package Varajao for more impact).:rockon:

Cavs made the right choice on Irving (despite the cries for Williams and Kanter), and they made the right choice on Bennett, a future star.

Book it.

Tony Montana = Homosexual troll who knows nothing about basketball (except being an LBJ fanboy) and who loves having long meaty shafts reach the back of his throat.[/QUOTE]

PENlS comments because you cannot argue the content? Thats cool if your into that man. Jason Collins came out the other month.

At the time Kandi/Kwame seemed like alright picks. Noone knew. This pick is disaster from the start. Thats why its a worse pick.

Your starting 5 looks like a late lottery pick or a first round sweep. Waiters and Thompson are just two of the high lottery picks Cleveland has wasted in recent years. They are both awful and noone wants them on their team.

Irving does a good job at scoring, but 6 foot guards that dominate the ball and make no defensive impact are overrated. If I want a ball dominant player I will choose Mr. LeBron James 6'8 270 and is an elite rebounder defender AND playmaker. Was Irving even capable of 6 APG despite having a usage rate that high? :oldlol: Have fun building around him and having the majority of your cap space go to that shit.

Clevelands rebuilding has failed. They are now past the point of having top 5 picks and dont have a true franchise cornerstone to show for it. They have wasted the majority of their high picks, and now they are forced to bank on LeBron returning in 2014 for their team to be relevant.

[IMG]http://pow-tv.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/cavs.jpg[/IMG]

:oldlol: :oldlol:

Whats the plan for Cleveland when LeBron stays in Miami? You think Rudy Gay or Luol Deng is going to make your Irving-Waiters-Thompson-Bennet core a contender? Good luck

TonyMontana schooling them :lol :lol

I hope he does well, but he was a throw away pick at #1. The Cavs were trying to prove a point. Lots of pressure on the kid.

Seems to me like he'll be a better, less selfish version of Corey Maggette to me. I'd say that's worth a first pick depending on the draft.