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Seeing is believing.. And well I've never seen it, inclfact none of you have.
That's because footage of the game doesn't exist..
Lets take a closer look. In 1962 ( the year of the supposed game) the NBA wasn't very popular. Games werent televised, attendance was horrific and it was below college basketball in popularity. What a better way to generate coverage of the NBA than with a 100 pt game.. Could it be? Could Wilts 100 point game have been a fraud? Perhaps..
[QUOTE=Gary Pomerantz]
nope
Till this day we won't know but I consider Kobe's 81 point game the record for modern day basketball.
Ooo, everyone likes a conspiracy.
I never looked into his 100 point game in depth but did any of the players on the court at that time ever comment on that game? I'm sure they did, as did the two coaches. Go dig that up and get more concrete evidence, OP.
[QUOTE=9erempiree]Till this day we won't know [B]but I consider Kobe's 81 point game the record for modern day basketball.[/B][/QUOTE]
As opposed to someone not considering that the modern day record?
This game was manufactured just like Magic and Bird were manufactured to exploit the black and white divide in the 80s.
[QUOTE=It's A VC3!!!]I never looked into his 100 point game in depth but did any of the players on the court at that time ever comment on that game? I'm sure they did, as did the two coaches. Go dig that up and get more concrete evidence, OP.[/QUOTE]
Lots of people have commented on it that were there. It was in the paper. Wouldn't someone comment it was made up?
All I know is that most casual fans believe that the 81 points is a record by Kobe.
People would say things like Kobe is not that good but he holds the record for most points scored. This is from his haters.
Or others will say I like watching Kobe and he holds the record for most points.
Quite literally NONE of the 'false dilemma's' you stated are true. Such as the things you claimed Harvey Pollack 'originally said' only later to 'change' his story - lmfao cite that sh[COLOR="Black"]i[/COLOR]t you stupid fu[COLOR="Black"]c[/COLOR]k, old data like that has been archived. Oh wait that's right, you can't cite those false dilemmas cause they never happened. Pollack never said 40,000 and he never said MSG... no story ever changed, because Wilt scoring 100 points isn't a 'story' it's an actual event. An event that actually happened - with actual cite-able data, unlike your imaginary false dilemmas.
[url]http://www.randomhouse.com/crown/wilt/[/url]
[QUOTE=niko]Lots of people have commented on it that were there. It was in the paper. Wouldn't someone comment it was made up?[/QUOTE]
The box score was in the paper..
The stat keeper for that game being Harvey Pollack himself.
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]
[url]http://www.randomhouse.com/crown/wilt/[/url][/QUOTE]
Pretty cool to hear. Can't believe I'm listening to something 50+ years old. Always creeps me. Still cool though.
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Quite literally NONE of the 'false dilemma's' you stated are true. Such as the things you claimed Harvey Pollack 'originally said' only later to 'change' his story - lmfao cite that sh[COLOR="Black"]i[/COLOR]t you stupid fu[COLOR="Black"]c[/COLOR]k, old data like that has been archived. Oh wait that's right, you can't cite those false dilemmas cause they never happened. Pollack never said 40,000 and he never said MSG... no story ever changed, because Wilt scoring 100 points isn't a 'story' it's an actual event. An event that actually happened - with actual cite-able data, unlike your imaginary false dilemmas.
[url]http://www.randomhouse.com/crown/wilt/[/url][/QUOTE]
Yes because the one hurling insults and going out of his way to censor his curse word so that they don't get censored is definetly going to have a rational and unbiased opinion.
And yes, these "false claims" can be found all over the Internet.
Are you claiming you have footage of the game?
What the rest of the team said:
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBjUKYQ06RY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBjUKYQ06RY[/URL]
[QUOTE=Donkey4trading]Yes because the one hurling insults and going out of his way to censor his curse word so that they don't get censored is definetly going to have a rational and unbiased opinion.
And yes, these "false claims" can be found all over the Internet.
Are you claiming you have footage of the game?[/QUOTE]
I just posted the broadcast. Was it staged perhaps? Are guys who played in the game simply paid to talk about it?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27tReCWl8RY[/url]
Mods, please delete this shameful thread.
[QUOTE=Donkey4trading]Yes because the one hurling insults and going out of his way to censor his curse word so that they don't get censored is definetly going to have a rational and unbiased opinion.
And yes, these "false claims" can be found all over the Internet.
Are you claiming you have footage of the game?[/QUOTE]
BTW, obvious alt is obvious.
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]BTW, obvious alt is obvious.[/QUOTE]
There you go avoid the question and throw an insult/accusation.
When one goes into attack mode it's usually in self defense, self defense is usually triggered by a perceived threat.. May I ask.
What are you threatened by?
What's stopping you from addressing the points in the OP? This thread isn't a knock on Wilt, so why are you so sensitive.
Wilt himself has been hesitant to even bask in the glory of a 100 point game, he doesn't even consider it his greatest achievement, his 55 boards against Russell gets the nod for that.
Don't be mad just because somebody dares to ask a few questions about a player you may admire
[QUOTE=Donkey4trading]There you go avoid the question and throw an insult/accusation.
When one goes into attack mode it's usually in self defense, self defense is usually triggered by a perceived threat.. May I ask.
What are you threatened by?[/QUOTE]
I didn't avoid the question Silkk, I answered it the post before, your the one who avoided it.
do u know how hard it would be to keep a conspiracy of this size a secret? 4000 in attendance, 2 teams with their staff and coaches, arena workers...and nobody has said anything?
It happened, but against lower competition than what the NBA is today.
[IMG]http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/047/718/InBeforeTheLock1105.jpg[/IMG]
Last time I checked, there is no footage available from the vast majority of Wilt's and his contemporaries' games, either. So, why not apply the same (ridiculous) "theory" for the rest of his games? Just because his scoring output was more believable? Was the whole 50 ppg season a sham, just to increase the NBA's popularity?
And if it didn't happen, what did actually happen instead at that date? Show us any info that may contribute to the original post being taken even remotely seriously.
We have no footage of the Revolutionary War, therefore it did not happen. As far as we can tell, England was the 51st state and we let it go because they couldn't cook. Canada was #52 and we released them because the place was cold and they talk funny. And so did the English, come to think of it.
This thread finds it way back in here :lol
**** the bs! I believe it happened and Kobe's 81 is not the record 9er
63 FGA & 32 FT attempts in the same game?
Did he should 90+ times? :lol
[QUOTE=K Xerxes]Ooo, everyone likes a conspiracy.[/QUOTE]
I agree. About to read this whole thing and stroke my ****.
I actually doubt that Wilt himself ever existed...
Or did any of you guys actually see him in person?
No, the NBA started in 76-77 or 79-80, depending on who you asked. Everything prior to one of those seasons is a fictionalized account brought to your attention by government/media conspiracy.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green]We have no footage of the Revolutionary War, therefore it did not happen. As far as we can tell, England was the 51st state and we let it go because they couldn't cook. Canada was #52 and we released them because the place was cold and they talk funny. And so did the English, come to think of it.[/QUOTE]
You're right we don't have any footage of the revilutinary war, but we do have
The treaty of Paris
The tea act
The French alliance
The US constitution
And a heap load of other evidence
Great example
[QUOTE=Donkey4trading]You're right we don't have any footage of the revilutinary war, but we do have
[B]The treaty of Paris
The tea act
The French alliance
The US constitution [/B]
And a heap load of other evidence
Great example[/QUOTE]
It's clearly all rigged, I think you are under-estimating the power of David Stern.
I think the OP makes a good point. I mean some people mention seeing ghosts, UFOs, even Big Foot. However there is no actual proof of any of these entities.
Why should we be so eager to believe that Wilt scored 100 points? There is no real footage of this just like in the former.
There was no Wilt either :no: He is a mythical character, like Santa Clause.
[QUOTE=Donkey4trading][B]Seeing is believing.. And well I've never seen it, inclfact none of you have.
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That's because footage of the game doesn't exist..
Lets take a closer look. In 1962 ( the year of the supposed game) the NBA wasn't very popular. Games werent televised, attendance was horrific and it was below college basketball in popularity. What a better way to generate coverage of the NBA than with a 100 pt game.. Could it be? Could Wilts 100 point game have been a fraud? Perhaps..
Wilts "accomplishment" during the early 60's would have been a big deal, and as any promoter knows, a special attraction will bring fans to the game and with NBA attendance as dreadful as it was..one man saw a giant among men and a golden opportunity, that mans name was..
Harvey Pollack
Pollack, the Warriors PR man at the time saw an oppurtunity and took it. Knowing there was no cameras, NO SPORTS WRITERS at the game and a handful in attendance he knew this was a situation that could be easily manipulated.
[B][I]Harvey Pollack originally claimed that the game took place infront of 40,000 people[/I][/B]
Today, the games attendance is believed to have been around 4,000.
[B][I]Pollack also originally claimed that the game was played in Madison Squate Garden[/I][/B]..because what's better than a 7 foot giant scoring 100 points? Doin it infront of 40,000 people at MSG.
That's how little attention was payed to this game that Pollack believed he could get away with LYING about where the game took place. The actually game took place in Pennsylvania at the Hershey sports arena..not MSG.
Also, we are led to believe that in this game Wilt shot an astounding 28-32 from the line that night..
Wilt Chamberlain, a career 51% FT shooter supposedly had a game where he made 28 out of 32 free throws and there's no video to prove it..
Many years later when asked how this was possible Wilt said he attributed his amazing free throw shooting to shooting underhand free throws against the Knicks and that
How convenient, a 51% free throw shooter gets turned into Ray Allen from the line for one night with no video evidence and while using a form that according to Wilts teaamate Al Attles
If Dwight Howard told you that he went 28-32 from the line in a game last night..but there was no video would you believe him? Prolly not. Especially If he claimed it was due to a new shooting form he was using that he will now never use again..
The game itself wasnt officially recognized and celebrated by the league until 1987..
The man who was burdened as being the "guy who wilt scored his 100 point on" Darrall Imhoff only played 20 minutes that game and wasn't even on the court when the 100th point was supposedly scored.
The game ball which Wilt supposedly scored his 100th point with was auctioned off for a huge sum of money was later suspended due to the question over the authenticity of the ball. The seller had claimed Chamberline handed him the ball after the game. However, Wilts teaamate contends that Wilt have him the ball..yet that ball has yet to be seen and verified...
Could the 100 point game have been nothing more than a marketing device to get more eyes on the NBA?[/QUOTE]
I know, I'm pretty sure the universe started 50 years ago
If a guy can score 81 points in a era averaging 90 possessions per game then im sure a guy could score 19 points more in a era averaging 50% more possessions per game... especially if that guy is Wilt, who averaged 48 mpg and 41 FG Attempts per game...
[QUOTE=pauk]If a guy can score 81 points in a era averaging 90 possessions per game then im sure a guy could score 19 points more in a era averaging 50% more possessions per game... especially if that guy is Wilt, who averaged 48 mpg and 41 FG Attempts per game...[/QUOTE]
False. Never did they ever average '50%' more possessions per game. Anytime you talk about possessions per game it has been proven time and again you straight up lie, and cannot cite any of the numbers to a reliable source. At what point are you going to acknowledge your mistakes (or should I call them lies?) Pauk?
The thing that sounds odd is the free throw shooting numbers and that he shot different for just one game ? why on earth would you go away from something that clearly worked?
maybe he had like 80-85 and the score keeper ... altered the three throw numbers to make it 100
[QUOTE=sick_brah07]The thing that sounds odd is the free throw shooting numbers and that he shot different for just one game ? why on earth would you go away from something that clearly worked?
maybe he had like 80-85 and the score keeper ... altered the three throw numbers to make it 100[/QUOTE]
And then paid off all the spectators, coaches, teammates and opponents to lie about it too? Yeah that's much more likely than him actually just having a hot night :oldlol:
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]False. Never did they didn't average '50%' more possessions per game. Anytime you talk about possessions per game it has been proven time and again you straight up lie, and cannot cite any of the numbers to a reliable source. At what point are you going to acknowledge your mistakes (or should I call them lies?) Pauk?[/QUOTE]
He has Psileas, you, and myself on his ignore list I think, so he skips over our posts every time we correct him.
[QUOTE=fpliii]He has Psileas, you, and myself on his ignore list I think, so he skips over our posts every time we correct him.[/QUOTE]
No we aren't on his ignore list, as he posts in threads I make or anyone else makes as long as it is something he's interested in - he just makes a conscious effort to ignore posts that call him out on things. He sees everything we post.