Working out vs. low calorie lifestyle

Just wanted to let you all know that you'll live much longer and be much healthier if

Option a)
work out, e.g, weights, excessive crazy marathon running, etc etc. look in amazing shape, be uselessly strong, or can easily run uselessly long distances and consume a lot of calories.

Option b)
Don't work out, but lead an active lifestyle e.g, go for walks, throw frisbee around, use the stairs instead of elevators and most importantly eat a low calorie diet of non processed ethnic variety food (say 1900 for men and 1700 for women)

Option b you'll be much healthier and live a much longer life. It is simple science. In option a you stress your body a lot and cause cellular death and regeneration at a lot faster pace than you should be for longevity.

[QUOTE=sundizz]Just wanted to let you all know that you'll live much longer and be much healthier if

Option a)
work out, e.g, weights, excessive crazy marathon running, etc etc. look in amazing shape, be uselessly strong, or can easily run uselessly long distances and consume a lot of calories.

Option b)
Don't work out, but lead an active lifestyle e.g, go for walks, throw frisbee around, use the stairs instead of elevators and most importantly eat a low calorie diet of non processed ethnic variety food (say 1900 for men and 1700 for women)

Option b you'll be much healthier and live a much longer life. It is simple science. In option a you stress your body a lot and cause cellular death and regeneration at a lot faster pace than you should be for longevity.[/QUOTE]

Wrong.

Working out does more than just burn calories.

It helps your dopamine system (dopamine = happy chemical), keeps stress levels low, and helps your brain.

Working out also helps you sleep better.

[QUOTE=sundizz]Just wanted to let you all know that you'll live much longer and be much healthier if

Option a)
work out, e.g, weights, excessive crazy marathon running, etc etc. look in amazing shape, be uselessly strong, or can easily run uselessly long distances and consume a lot of calories.

Option b)
Don't work out, but lead an active lifestyle e.g, go for walks, throw frisbee around, use the stairs instead of elevators and most importantly eat a low calorie diet of non processed ethnic variety food (say 1900 for men and 1700 for women)

Option b you'll be much healthier and live a much longer life. It is simple science. In option a you stress your body a lot and cause cellular death and regeneration at a lot faster pace than you should be for longevity.[/QUOTE]


But eating burgers and playing sports is a life much better spent than taking walks and eating spinach. Who gives a shit about living to be 90 years old.

Rather be a lion for a day than a lamb who lives forever

Meh, I just play sports a LOT and work out a little. Eat everything.

Makes me sooo happy.

[QUOTE=sundizz]Just wanted to let you all know that you'll live much longer and be much healthier if

Option a)
work out, e.g, weights, excessive crazy marathon running, etc etc. look in amazing shape, be uselessly strong, or can easily run uselessly long distances and consume a lot of calories.

Option b)
Don't work out, but lead an active lifestyle e.g, go for walks, throw frisbee around, use the stairs instead of elevators and most importantly eat a low calorie diet of non processed ethnic variety food (say 1900 for men and 1700 for women)

Option b you'll be much healthier and live a much longer life. It is simple science. In option a you stress your body a lot and cause cellular death and regeneration at a lot faster pace than you should be for longevity.[/QUOTE]

I'll gladly take option A. You have no idea how much an hour of weightlifting reduces my stress. It may not be fun when I'm doing it, but I feel terrific afterwards. Aside from that, I look great and get to eat plenty of delicious food.

[QUOTE=CeltsGarlic]Meh, I just play sports a LOT and work out a little. Eat everything.

Makes me sooo happy.[/QUOTE]
This. :D

Going out to pig out with teammates after practice.

Done both like five times over.

Like all things in life...CYCLE IT!! OPtion B in da winter option a in da spring option b in da summer option a in da fall.

Love both. I feel more in tune with my body and happy go lucky when playing basketball lifting and martial artscrushing 4000 cals but I also enjoy social amd knowledge type stuff on 1600.

Just like those who work hard play harder.

All u high achiever workaholics will love the feeling if a vipassana retreat injected sporadically

[QUOTE=JEFFERSON MONEY]Done both like five times over.

Like all things in life...CYCLE IT!!

[/QUOTE]


Yeah, this is prob the best way to go about it. Good balance is key

Oh, I agree with everyone. I'm much of an option A guy myself. I just crushed out a Round Table Pizza buffet, preceded by a 8 mile walk (i would jog..just not in the shape to undertake extensive jogging right now).

I think it is just interesting though....that the excess stress of "good" stuff drastically reduces life expectancy. It is why a country like Japan has people that live so ridiculously long. They eat healthy, low calories diets as the norm. They also rarely engage in super intense physical stuff.

Though I say the balance is the best bet for both. I wouldn't say playing basketball 4x a week for 45 minutes to an hour is "excess"..it is probably just the right amount. Combine that with a 1900 calorie diet and you'll both enjoy life, not "feel old" at an early age, and still get to do what you want.

It is just interesting to me as I've lived in Asia (Korea mostly) and go to the park to play hoops and the majority of people are 27 to 50 (mostly 30 to 43 I'd guess). Out here in America when I play it is generally 15 to 25 year old people playing. I'm 28 and my friends that are 27-30 act like they are old men who can't play sports. Funny enough, they are all in "excellent" gym shape and can run a marathon, or lift hella weights, but can't handle playing a simple sport 3 to 4x aggressively a week.

Simply put, if not for aesthetics reasons, then being skinny-fit seems to be much much better for the long-term than being buff-fit.

I've lost 15lbs in the last 3months eating lean healthy and under 2k calories a day. I can't stress how much better I feel, way more energy, less back pain, look better, etc.

I'm so happy I got off my ass and started eating healthy. Once I decide to bulk up a bit, ill jump to 3500 calories but still look to eat lean and healthy. No more crap in my system

Working out and eating like shit will make you feel better than a low calorie strict diet. Working out gives you more energy, more confidence, and releases endorphins that make you feel good... on top of that you can eat crappy foods that give you more pleasure on top of it.

that being said, a healthy diet and exercising marginally is much healthier for you long term and you will live a longer life... but it won't be as good of a life.

Like some have said though, balance is the key. Find a happy medium that works for you now and later.

[QUOTE=Swaggin916]Working out and eating like shit will make you feel better than a low calorie strict diet. Working out gives you more energy, more confidence, and releases endorphins that make you feel good... on top of that you can eat crappy foods that give you more pleasure on top of it.

that being said, a healthy diet and exercising marginally is much healthier for you long term and you will live a longer life... but it won't be as good of a life.

Like some have said though, balance is the key. Find a happy medium that works for you now and later.[/QUOTE]


Why wouldn't it be as good as a life? Because I can't eat shitty processed cheeseburgers at McDonald's? But I can eat Chilean seebass, and black cod, and octopus salad, and fresh produce and in season fruits and veggies. But I can't order a 20$ pizza from dominos?

You can live just as well eating healthy and low calories, and you can still work out and cycle larger calorie diets in. It's just lazy sheep recycling the same comments.

I think the opposite. Quality of life largely improves when you eat healthy. Because you're putting premium fuel in your body instead of a cheap knock off. The real question is, do you have the money and the convenient lifestyle to eat healthy?

[QUOTE=OldSkoolball#52]But eating burgers and playing sports is a life much better spent than taking walks and eating spinach. Who gives a shit about living to be 90 years old.

Rather be a lion for a day than a lamb who lives forever[/QUOTE]

Except you're not a lion for a day, you're a bitch for life. You're being poisoned by the food industry and you're too weak to do anything about it. So you're committing a crime against your body and they figured out what brain cells make your body thinks it likes it. They hustling you like a streetside 3 cup game

Those who exercise but eat poorly are more likely to live longer than those who eat well but don't work out.

Time for some concrete examples of low calorie guys living it out longer.

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Jack Lalanne
- Diet focused on egg whites, fish, veggies, fruits. 2 meals a day max. Swam and did calisthenics (no squats or deadlifts). Lived till 96. Completed endurance events and bodyweight exercises well into 60s.



Shaolin Monks
- Known to have strength, endurance, agility well into late age. Usually do qigong and calisthenics and eat subpar.

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5 miles a day, a few sets of pushups, a few sets of pullups, some abs. Looks good at 60. Eats one meal a day. Fukked a hot ass news journalist fairly recently. No Cialis necessary.


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Russian former soldier. Still deadlifts in the low 500's and military presses around 200 @ a bodyweight of 160ish. Eats one or two meals a day. Teaches strength and conditioning to specia lforces.

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7-11 miles a day. 4 hours of sleep. Almost 60. 1 meal right before bed.

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This guy eats SEAFOOD AND VEGGIES like no tomorrow. His morning workout is probably about 60-75% intensity of your workouts but its a nice mix of strength/cardio.


ON THE FLIPSIDE

My friend knows a guy in South Florida who is the bigges tmotherfukkers he's ever seen.
Eats 10000 calories of Mcdonalds, takes T3, uses the juice.
Bloodwork is actually not too shabby.


Kali Muscle eats 6000+ calories of junk but he's on HGH and test.

Then there's an IIFYM macro hype.

The latter clearly carry a lot more muscle...but at what cost? Further research must be done.

Arnold looks like a hot mess now. Stallone looks good. LUndren looks good. Statham was always leaner/smaller.

Going to see how Crews holds up.

[QUOTE=JEFFERSON MONEY]Done both like five times over.

[B]Like all things in life...CYCLE IT!![/B] OPtion B in da winter option a in da spring option b in da summer option a in da fall.

Love both. I feel more in tune with my body and happy go lucky when playing basketball lifting and martial artscrushing 4000 cals but I also enjoy social amd knowledge type stuff on 1600.

Just like those who work hard play harder.

All u high achiever workaholics will love the feeling if a vipassana retreat injected sporadically[/QUOTE]


That's the simple truth in life yall need to know:applause:

Agree with J$. I cycle it.

I'll usually do something along the lines of

January-March: More cardio type stuff (Usually Rushfit for me)
April-June: Weights/strength training
July-September: Cardio outside (running, bikes, basketball)
October-December: Weights/strength

Dietwise I've just been pretty much chicken/fish/steak with spinach/kale for dinner, pasta or tuna/multi grain crackers for lunch (depending on how much time I have), and an apple or almonds for breakfast when I get to my desk at work

I'm never ever ever ever ever gonna be a calorie counter, but I mean i've just become kind of accustomed to my diet and I stick to it.

B easily. Working out does not make up for a poor diet. Eat raw. You will see the power of raw and the poison of cooked.

The low calorie was only proven for rats. I don't think they have proved it for humans. And if u take stairs, that is kinda like doing the stair stepper, u just don't see it as the same

I exercise like a psycho.... and eat/drink anything healthy/unhealthy..... Look great, feel great... :cheers: