Selfish to curse off homeless person asking for money?

I was wondering... what would you do if you saw a homeless person walk up to you in ripped clothes outside in freezing weather with a cup asking you for some coins? Would you have the guts to tell them to go stick it?

I was reading my facebook, and a girl from my HS that I used to know posted that she cursed off a "homeless bum" asking for money. She goes on further complaining saying that she has worked hard her whole life and now some homeless guy wants to take her money. Then I saw a bunch of people posting how she is right and 'liking' the status.

I was considering responding, but I don't know her well-enough to call her out. I come from a south-asian culture where this would be considered selfish way of thinking (India). To me, one of the goals of humanity is to help each-other overcome and survive first and foremost. I mean I work hard too, but I would never hesitate to give a couple dollar to somebody that will help provide them one meal. I'm lucky to have good college education with good family (yes, my dad also works his ass off into his late 50's but he would never hesitate to help some homeless person). Helping others is the right thing to do for me.

Am I hanging out with the wrong crowd or is this truly the thought-process of most Americans? I do not have a huge friend circle, and I simply live in a small city in NJ. Am I wrong in being alarmed by all the 'likes' and posts by others agreeing with her? Is it a western culture thing?

[QUOTE=bladefd]I was wondering... what would you do if you saw a homeless person walk up to you in ripped clothes outside in freezing weather with a cup asking you for some coins? Would you have the guts to tell them to go stick it?

I was reading my facebook, and a girl from my HS that I used to know posted that she cursed off a "homeless bum" asking for money. She goes on further complaining saying that she has worked hard her whole life and now some homeless guy wants to take her money. Then I saw a bunch of people posting how she is right and 'liking' the status.

I was considering responding, but I don't know her well-enough to call her out. I come from a south-asian culture where this would be considered selfish way of thinking (India). To me, one of the goals of humanity is to help each-other overcome and survive first and foremost. I mean I work hard too, but I would never hesitate to give a couple dollar to somebody that will help provide them one meal. I'm lucky to have good college education with good family (yes, my dad also works his ass off into his late 50's but he would never hesitate to help some homeless person). Helping others is the right thing to do for me.

Am I hanging out with the wrong crowd or is this truly the thought-process of most Americans? I do not have a huge friend circle, and I simply live in a small city in NJ. Am I wrong in being alarmed by all the 'likes' and posts by others agreeing with her? Is it a western culture thing?[/QUOTE]
Giving him spare money to buy his next meals isn't "taking all your money" so your friend should stfu. She worked hard to get her money its not like she's giving ALL of it away. She's just ignorant , if she was in his position she would realize that it's not all about hard work some people never even get the chance to get a job because of their upbringing.

[QUOTE=waseem780]Giving him spare money to buy his next meals isn't "taking all your money" so your friend should stfu. She worked hard to get her money its not like she's giving ALL of it away. She's just ignorant , if she was in his position she would realize that it's not all about hard work some people never even get the chance to get a job because of their upbringing.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely, but what about all the people that agree with her? Is it simply the American-way to respond or western culture? Is it simply an isolated case of intentional/unintentional ignorance?

My own experiences are based on the single region I live in. I don't know how it's like in other parts of the nation. :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=bladefd]Absolutely, but what about all the people that agree with her? Is it simply the American-way to respond or western culture? Is it simply an isolated case of intentional/unintentional ignorance?

My own experiences are based on the single region I live in. I don't know how it's like in other parts of the nation. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]



There are two kinds of people in this world. Those who crunch numbers all day as a tax analyist, and those who dont.

Yea. No one is forcing her to give money to them and she can just ignore them.

But instead she goes on facebook venting about homeless people asking for money.. First world problems at it's finest.


PS, her version of "working hard" is probably very skewed. Probably went to a decent school, had daddy pay for everything and just probably had a part time job at the GAP working 10 hours LOL

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]There are two kinds of people in this world. Those who crunch numbers all day as a tax analyist, and those who dont.[/QUOTE]

:oldlol: Please explain.

[QUOTE=bladefd]I was wondering... what would you do if you saw a homeless person walk up to you in ripped clothes outside in freezing weather with a cup asking you for some coins? Would you have the guts to tell them to go stick it?

I was reading my facebook, and a girl from my HS that I used to know posted that she cursed off a "homeless bum" asking for money. She goes on further complaining saying that she has worked hard her whole life and now some homeless guy wants to take her money. Then I saw a bunch of people posting how she is right and 'liking' the status.

I was considering responding, but I don't know her well-enough to call her out. I come from a south-asian culture where this would be considered selfish way of thinking (India). To me, one of the goals of humanity is to help each-other overcome and survive first and foremost. I mean I work hard too, but I would never hesitate to give a couple dollar to somebody that will help provide them one meal. I'm lucky to have good college education with good family (yes, my dad also works his ass off into his late 50's but he would never hesitate to help some homeless person). Helping others is the right thing to do for me.

Am I hanging out with the wrong crowd or is this truly the thought-process of most Americans? I do not have a huge friend circle, and I simply live in a small city in NJ. Am I wrong in being alarmed by all the 'likes' and posts by others agreeing with her? Is it a western culture thing?[/QUOTE]

She is being silly , but it's up to you if you want to 'call her out'. It's certainly her money to do as she please but that 'bum' was a human being with someone/someplace who loves(d) him.

I don't see 'bums',but human beings. If she wished not to give him any money
just politely say 'Sorry I don't have any change to spare today'. I always wonder if that were me or someone I loved.


I just gave a down & out (I assume) 57 year old man(he claimed) $2 dollars earlier this week & it seemed to mean a lot to this poor guy. He could have purchased a meal or drugs with it ,but the $2 meant nothing to me.

If it's a corner store with numerous beggars I understand her frustration ,but to be rude/mean spirited is just lacking humanity.

It isn't selfish but the way she handled it was bad. She sounds like a Jackass should could have kindly said, "Sorry, I don't have any money on me" but instead she chooses to tell him off. She must have been on her period that day. Give me her facebook man, I'll teach her kindness.

[QUOTE=32jazz]She is being silly , but it's up to you if you want to 'call her out'. It's certainly her money to do as she please but that 'bum' was a human being with someone/someplace who loves(d) him.

I don't see 'bums',but human beings. If she wished not to give him any money
just politely say 'Sorry I don't have any change to spare today'. I always wonder if that were me or someone I loved.

I just gave a down & out (I assume) 57 year old man(he claimed) $2 dollars earlier this week & it seemed to mean a lot to this poor guy. He could have purchased a meal or drugs with it ,but the $2 meant nothing to me.

If it's a corner store with numerous beggars I understand her frustration ,but to be rude/mean spirited is just lacking humanity.[/QUOTE]

I won't respond to her because I'm above responding to ignorant things like that UNLESS if the person is somebody that I consider close friend or family. If it was somebody I consider close, I feel as if it would be my moral obligation to respond. I have quite a few people on my facebook that I talked with/worked with on projects in HS/college that I added, but they're not "friends" - she is one of them.

Honestly, I'm more concerned with all her friends agreeing with her than her specifically. I don't want this thread to become an attack on her - I just was wondering if this sort of thinking is something that is widespread in USA/western culture. More of a discussion than anything

I have been trying to contribute to homeless. It all started when I was walking home one day after work and spilled my milkshake on my hands which made my hands sticky. Lose my appetite and about tor throw away the Burger King bag when I see a homeless lady sitting and begging for money, of course I go over and giver her the bag. The lady got so happy it was great just seeing that. Got a cumstain from the milkshake on my pants though.

Anyway I understand her line of thoughts but she is being very insensitive. I used to give lose change or maybe a 20 (3-4 dollars) if I had it on me because loose change really bothered me. But at one point I thought what if these guys use the money they get for alcohol? or even worse which is the main reason I stopped giving any money under any circumstances is because people have started using workforce to get money and I do not like pointing fingers but gypsy's are the leading force behind this. They use their kids, wives, brothers, friends, slaves whatever but point is it is not for people in need the money is going to.

So me and my ex did a day where we went and bought chessburgers (had to go to different places) and in the end of two hours we gave out around around 100 chessburgers to homesless people.

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I was reading my facebook, and a girl from my HS that I used to know posted that she cursed off a "homeless bum" asking for money. She goes on further complaining saying that she has worked hard her whole life and now some homeless guy wants to take her money. Then I saw a bunch of people posting how she is right and 'liking' the status.

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She is right. I applaud her.

Homeless people dont deserve your money simply because they beg for it. There are plenty of shelters and free soup kitchens that they are actively choosing not to use. It isn't like homeless are left on their own in the cold in USA.

[QUOTE] I would never hesitate to give a couple dollar to somebody that will help provide them one meal.[/QUOTE]
Dont be naive dawg. 99.9% of the time if they asking for money they arent going to be using this on food. I know this cus when I was like 15 I used to believe the same as you, that it was the right thing to do to always help homeless. only if they asked for money Id offer to buy them mcdonalds or a sandwich, and only like 3 times did they accept my offer of free food. Most times they turned the offer down and just went begging for more money.

Most people who are homeless in America are either drug addicts, alcoholics or mentally ill. Giving them money wont necessarily benefit them. Remember, these people are choosing to actively avoid the free shelter and food provided all over American towns and cities.

[QUOTE=Nick Young]She is right. I applaud her.

Homeless people dont deserve your money simply because they beg for it. There are plenty of shelters and free soup kitchens that they are actively choosing not to use. It isn't like homeless are left on their own in the cold in USA.


Dont be naive dawg. 99.9% of the time if they asking for money they arent going to be using this on food. I know this cus when I was like 15 I used to believe the same as you, only if they asked for money Id offer to buy them mcdonalds or a sandwich, and only like 3 times did they accept my offer of free food. Most times they turned the offer down and just went begging for more money.

Most people who are homeless in America are either drug addicts or mentally ill. Giving them money wont necessarily benefit them. Remember, these people are choosing to actively avoid the free shelter and food provided all over American towns and cities.[/QUOTE]



Yep. If all they wanted was food, the solution for them would be easy. Get a job. What they want is alcohol 24/7, and you cant work a job when u on dat liquid diet. So they hit the corner and rock a frowny face with their hand out. Carlin said it best, they should be rounded up and shipped to those square-shaped states in the middle of the country.

[QUOTE=Gabi]I have been trying to contribute to homeless. It all started when I was walking home one day after work and spilled my milkshake on my hands which made my hands sticky. Lose my appetite and about tor throw away the Burger King bag when I see a homeless lady sitting and begging for money, of course I go over and giver her the bag. The lady got so happy it was great just seeing that. [B]Got a cumstain from the milkshake on my pants though.[/B]
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Why the **** were u drinking a [COLOR="Black"]cu[/COLOR]m milkshake??? :biggums:

the ones who simply ask me for money i'll ignore. for a bum to get money from me he has to have a hustle playing music, washing my windows, rapping, tell a joke anything.

[QUOTE=Styles p]the ones who simply ask me for money i'll ignore. for a bum to get money from me he has to have a hustle playing music, washing my windows, rapping, tell a joke anything.[/QUOTE]

^lol'd :oldlol:

seriously though .. even if you're not gonna give the person anything, what's with the cursing them out ? .. seems like something wicked to get off on or something .. laugh at and belittle the homeless loser .. just nod your head and keep walking

I give homeless guys cigs when they ask. Us smokers gotta stick together.

[QUOTE=bladefd]I was wondering... what would you do if you saw a homeless person walk up to you in ripped clothes outside in freezing weather with a cup asking you for some coins? Would you have the guts to tell them to go stick it?

[B]I was reading my facebook, and a girl from my HS that I used to know posted that she cursed off a "homeless bum" asking for money[/B]. She goes on further complaining saying that she has worked hard her whole life and now some homeless guy wants to take her money. [B]Then I saw a bunch of people posting how she is right and 'liking' the status. [/B][/QUOTE]
Is she hot? Hot chicks can post whatever they want on Facebook and have a ton of people agree with them and get likes.

It's not necessarily selfish to curse out someone begging you for money, it's just called being an asshole. Though if you say no and they keep hassling you, then it is fair to curse them out.

Giving is a privilege, the truly rich understands this.

She sounds like a c[I]u[/I]nt. Making a big deal out of a bum asking her for money. I guess when you come from a nice background you don't see homeless people very often, so this rare occurrence was worth a facebook vent.

Sadly, this mentality runs through a lot of people. I have a lot of friends and even family that grew up with wealthy parents and take for granted so many opportunities they've had that most people don't get in life. They feel as if everything they have in life was built solely on their own hard work, and anyone who is less fortunate is simply lazy and wanting a handout.

I would wonder how they got in that position and how they can be satisfied with being out in that shitty whether.

But I wouldn't give them money.

[QUOTE=bladefd]I was wondering... what would you do if you saw a homeless person walk up to you in ripped clothes outside in freezing weather with a cup asking you for some coins? Would you have the guts to tell them to go stick it?

I was reading my facebook, and a girl from my HS that I used to know posted that she cursed off a "homeless bum" asking for money. She goes on further complaining saying that she has worked hard her whole life and now some homeless guy wants to take her money. Then I saw a bunch of people posting how she is right and 'liking' the status.

I was considering responding, but I don't know her well-enough to call her out. I come from a south-asian culture where this would be considered selfish way of thinking (India). To me, one of the goals of humanity is to help each-other overcome and survive first and foremost. I mean I work hard too, but I would never hesitate to give a couple dollar to somebody that will help provide them one meal. I'm lucky to have good college education with good family (yes, my dad also works his ass off into his late 50's but he would never hesitate to help some homeless person). Helping others is the right thing to do for me.

Am I hanging out with the wrong crowd or is this truly the thought-process of most Americans? I do not have a huge friend circle, and I simply live in a small city in NJ. Am I wrong in being alarmed by all the 'likes' and posts by others agreeing with her? Is it a western culture thing?[/QUOTE]

Forward her message to Reddit. Right now, she is getting responses from her like-minded friends and other friends that don't agree don't want to call her out on a public forum. If you post it to Reddit, the rest of the internet may put her in her place for you.

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Honestly, I'm more concerned with all her friends agreeing with her than her specifically. I don't want this thread to become an attack on her - I just was wondering if this sort of thinking is something that is widespread in USA/western culture. More of a discussion than anything[/QUOTE]

Well there is this strong belief among many in the USA of the Horatio Alger myth(everyone can pull themselves up by the boot straps & make it with hard work/honesty,etc...).

In other words there is a segment in the U.S.(especially those with Conservative leanings ) with little to no sympathy for the homeless, those who rely on public assistance,etc......
They never fail to bore us with their (or others) 'rags to riches' (or mediocrity) story of how hard they work,study, sacrifice,etc......... to become successful.


Yes. This is widespread thinking in the U.S.( "I made it from nothing, immigrants have made it from nothing so why can't those people? What's there problem?" )

The thinking is widespread, but the open or bold cruelty/hostility to homeless is not.

[QUOTE=32jazz]Well there is this strong belief among many in the USA of the Horatio Alger myth(everyone can pull themselves up by the boot straps & make it with hard work/honesty,etc...).

In other words there is a segment in the U.S.(especially those with Conservative leanings ) with little to no sympathy for the homeless, those who rely on public assistance,etc......
They never fail to bore us with their (or others) 'rags to riches' (or mediocrity) story of how hard they work,study, sacrifice,etc......... to become successful.


Yes. This is widespread thinking in the U.S.( "I made it from nothing, immigrants have made it from nothing so why can't those people? What's there problem?" )

The thinking is widespread, but the open or bold cruelty/hostility to homeless is not.[/QUOTE]
In contrast, UK and many other European states do not have this level of work ethic and belief that they can make it from a young age, and that has lead to a lazy generation scrounging and freeloading off the socialized benefits system where people are saying shit like "I can't afford to work" because they get paid more to do nothing then they do to work at a shoe shop or Mcdonalds.:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Most people who are homeless have some sort of mental illness. They aren't there because they tried everything else and got screwed over by the system.

That is the reason why many SIMPLY IGNORE SOUP KITCHENS AND SHELTERS. If you were mentally with it, the logical thing to do instead of beg on the streets is to seek free housing at a homeless shelter and eat the free soup provided.

[QUOTE=Swaggin916]I would wonder how they got in that position and how they can be satisfied with being out in that shitty whether.

But I wouldn't give them money.[/QUOTE]

Funny that I often wonder the same thing when I see a 'homeless' or 'down on his luck' person & spent my entire drive home wondering about a guy I had given $2 to earlier this week.

What happened in his life? Drugs? Mental illness? A felony or something stupid when he was young ? Where is his family? Could my life possibly end up this out of control? Someone I love?


Everyone reserves the right to give or not to give to a 'down & out person' ,but being openly cruel/hostile is ignorant.

[QUOTE=32jazz]Funny that I often wonder the same thing when I see a 'homeless' or 'down on his luck' person & spent my entire drive home wondering about a guy I had given $2 to earlier this week.

What happened in his life? Drugs? Mental illness? A felony or something stupid when he was young ? Where is his family? Could my life possibly end up this out of control? Someone I love?


Everyone reserves the right to give or not to give to a 'down & out person' ,but being openly cruel/hostile is ignorant.[/QUOTE]
What if the guy you give money to uses that money to buy crack or whiskey.

He is never going to change it up-if its as easy as asking random people in the street for your next fix, how is anyone ever going to get out of their addiction cycle? In this case, giving that random homeless guy is only feeding his addiction. You are basically paying your own money to worsen his situation and keep him on the streets.

If the guy is asking for money for food, I used to not mind offering to buy him a sandwich but most of the time the homeless people would turn it down and say no. bullshit.

If it gives you a sense of moral superiority to give homeless people money though so you can look down on people who don't, by all means keep on doing it. Just don't fool yourself into thinking your money is helping to fix the problem or better that homeless person's life.

[QUOTE=Nick Young]What if the guy you give money to uses that money to buy crack or whiskey.


If it gives you a sense of moral superiority to give homeless people money though so you can look down on people who don't, by all means keep on doing it. Just don't fool yourself into thinking your money is helping to fix the problem or better that homeless person's life.[/QUOTE]:rolleyes:


Quote me were I said anything other than it is an individuals choice to give or not to give you idiot. I only criticized a person who felt the need to curse out/mistreat a homeless person. I don't care what you or she does with your money & you shouldn't' care what I do with mine.


You said in an earlier post that most homeless have mental illness so I don't understand why you would applaud/encourage someone to verbally abuse or demean mentally ill people on the street. Why do you think it's cool to mistreat mentally sick people? And I am certain MENTALY Ill people don't always have the capacity to make use of programs for homeles/down & out because they are MENTALLY ill perhaps?

Me giving or not giving isn't going cure his mental illness nor the homeless problem , but I do think all people deserve to be treated with some humanity. Again. Quote me where I criticized someone for not giving to someone.


I can give you a LONG list of wealthy people who were once homeless ,struggling or down & out, but unlike you I don't judge or feel the need to mistreat them.


So what if he purchased Whiskey or Coke? Maybe I helped to ease his pain that day. Matter of fact I have given money to known drunks & addicts(some in my family). What business is it yours what I do with my money?

What if he put the $2 in his car & drove around looking for work? I don't know nor do I care what he did with it, but I only care that people treat others with a little dignity.

[QUOTE=32jazz]:rolleyes:


Quote me were I said anything other than it is an individuals choice to give or not to give you idiot. I only criticized a person who felt the need to curse out/mistreat a homeless person. I don't care what you or she does with your money & you shouldn't' care what I do with mine.


You said in an earlier post that most homeless have mental illness so I don't understand why you would applaud/encourage someone to verbally abuse or demean mentally ill people on the street. Why do you think it's cool to mistreat mentally sick people? And I am certain MENTALY Ill people don't always have the capacity to make use of programs for homeles/down & out because they are MENTALLY ill perhaps?

Me giving or not giving isn't going cure his mental illness nor the homeless problem , but I do think all people deserve to be treated with some humanity. Again. Quote me where I criticized someone for not giving to someone.


I can give you a LONG list of wealthy people who were once homeless ,struggling or down & out, but unlike you I don't judge or feel the need to mistreat them.


So what if he purchased Whiskey or Coke? Maybe I helped to ease his pain that day. Matter of fact I have given money to known drunks & addicts(some in my family). What business is it yours what I do with my money?

What if he put the $2 in his car & drove around looking for work? I don't know nor do I care what he did with it, but I only care that people treat others with a little dignity.[/QUOTE]
If the sense of moral superiority helps you to feel good about yourself, by all means carry on doing what you do:cheers:

[QUOTE=Nick Young]If the sense of moral superiority helps you to feel good about yourself, by all means carry on doing what you do:cheers:[/QUOTE]


And if you need to curse out or mistreat(or applaud it) mostly mentally ill people on the street to uplift your miserable existence then so be it.

I will quote or paraphrase myself again before you rudely hijacked a nice /interesting thread:

"Everyone reserves a right to give or not to give to someone homeless or a person down on his luck, but to mistreat these people (who are mentally ill perhaps) is ignorant"-32jazz

No way ,no how can a reasonable person come to the conclusion that a quote like that in any way shows some sense of moral superiority.

I personally know /related to drunks(have drank with them), addicts & mentally ill people & I'm under no delusion that I can solve these peoples problems.However I tend not to make sweeping judgements of struggling people I do not know nor do I mistreat them or encourage others to.

You have no obligation to give (otherwise there's no reason why you would only be obligated to give that amount, to that person, at that specific moment - if you give, it has to be a choice, and that choice says something positive about you), but at least treat the man with respect.

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]Forward her message to Reddit. Right now, she is getting responses from her like-minded friends and other friends that don't agree don't want to call her out on a public forum. If you post it to Reddit, the rest of the internet may put her in her place for you.[/QUOTE]

This.

[QUOTE=bladefd]
I was considering responding, but I don't know her well-enough to call her out. I come from a south-asian culture where this would be considered selfish way of thinking (India). To me, one of the goals of humanity is to help each-other overcome and survive first and foremost. I mean I work hard too, but I would never hesitate to give a couple [B]dollar[/B] to somebody that will help provide them one meal. [B]I'm lucky to have good college education[/B] with good family (yes, my dad also works his ass off into his late 50's but he would never hesitate to help some homeless person). Helping others is the right thing to do for me.
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You sure bro?

Back on topic, I judge homeless people and give money to the ones that look like regular guys, not the ones that are crazy or come across as drug addicts. If I have time, I go out of my way to buy them some food.

Funny story, my wife and I were leaving a Thai restaurant and we had some leftovers with us. Some in her 20's woman asked us for money so she could get McDonalds (she also wanted us to follow her down an alley... fat chance). We offered her our leftovers instead and she said, "No thank you, I don't like weird food."

Some people are ungrateful ****s and they deserve to be on the street

Also, the crazy street people should be locked up in an asylum. They're no going to get better by roaming the streets, they're ****ing crazy and a danger to others. Toronto has a crazy amount of crazy homeless people, it's such a bad image to tourists. They should clean that shit up and stop catering to the PC masses

[QUOTE=bladefd]I come from a south-asian culture where this would be considered selfish way of thinking (India). To me, one of the goals of humanity is to help each-other overcome and survive first and foremost. I mean I work hard too, but I would never hesitate to give a couple dollar to somebody that will help provide them one meal. I'm lucky to have good college education with good family (yes, my dad also works his ass off into his late 50's but he would never hesitate to help some

Am I hanging out with the wrong crowd or is this truly the thought-process of most Americans? I do not have a huge friend circle, and I simply live in a small city in NJ. Am I wrong in being alarmed by all the 'likes' and posts by others agreeing with her? Is it a western culture thing?[/QUOTE]

Back to your question again. You & your families very success in this country feeds into the Horatio Alger Myth that is very much a part of American culture .

"Look at those immigrants like Bladefd & his family who come here with nothing & succeed. Why can't you or those people? Get a job you bum".

Most immigrants will 'succeed' in this country because the very fact that they take such a journey to make it here shows their personal ambition/drive/education,etc......


Don't allow those people to discourage you from acting upon the humanity /charity of your culture. There are many reasons people are homeless or down on their luck from bad choices in life, drugs or simply mental illness, but no reason to judge or mistreat them.

Many wealthy people in this country have been homeless / down on their luck at one time.

[QUOTE=32jazz]Back to your question again. You & your families very success in this country feeds into the Horatio Alger Myth that is very much a part of American culture .

"Look at those immigrants like Bladefd & his family who come here with nothing & succeed. Why can't you or those people? Get a job you bum".
[B]
Most immigrants will 'succeed' in this country because the very fact that they take such a journey to make it here shows their personal ambition/drive/education,etc...... [/B]


Don't allow those people to discourage you from acting upon the humanity /charity of your culture. There are many reasons people are homeless or down on their luck from bad choices in life, drugs or simply mental illness, but no reason to judge or mistreat them.

Many wealthy people in this country have been homeless / down on their luck at one time.[/QUOTE]
Ambition is something that everyone can have, or can gain if they don't have it. It is best to encourage ambition then it is to monetarily subsidize the lives of those who have none.

I really don't care if a homeless person spends my money on booze. Once I've given it to them, I have no right to dictate to them how they spend it. Drink hard my smelly friend. :cheers:

Please, choke that girl to death.

[QUOTE=Nick Young]What if the guy you give money to uses that money to buy crack or whiskey.

He is never going to change it up-if its as easy as asking random people in the street for your next fix, how is anyone ever going to get out of their addiction cycle? In this case, giving that random homeless guy is only feeding his addiction. You are basically paying your own money to worsen his situation and keep him on the streets.

If the guy is asking for money for food, I used to not mind offering to buy him a sandwich but most of the time the homeless people would turn it down and say no. bullshit.

[B]If it gives you a sense of moral superiority to give homeless people money though so you can look down on people who don't, by all means keep on doing it. Just don't fool yourself into thinking your money is helping to fix the problem or better that homeless person's life.[/B][/QUOTE]

Why run soup kitchens & provide shelter for the homeless? They might get free food, free shelter and end up stealing and doing crime from being healthy. Why even keep them alive? They might get frustrated and go on a rampage killing other people.

Why even use tax-money to help these homeless people who cannot help themselves? I don't want free-loaders to get my tax money. Get rid of the soup kitchens & shelter - they come from MY tax-money. I don't want to fool myself into thinking MY money is helping to fix the problem or better that homeless person's life. Lets just kill all the homeless.

I expressed my opinion through sarcasm, but I think it expresses my point.

[QUOTE=bladefd]Why run soup kitchens & provide shelter for the homeless? They might get free food, free shelter and end up stealing and doing crime from being healthy. Why even keep them alive? They might get frustrated and go on a rampage killing other people.

Why even use tax-money to help these homeless people who cannot help themselves? I don't want free-loaders to get my tax money. Get rid of the soup kitchens & shelter - they come from MY tax-money. I don't want to fool myself into thinking MY money is helping to fix the problem or better that homeless person's life. Lets just kill all the homeless.

I expressed my opinion through sarcasm, but I think it expresses my point.[/QUOTE]
you suck at debating. Your logic makes zero sense. You failed miserably at trying to express the point you are trying to make. Stop trying sport.

What a bitch. The homeless man was asking for money, not taking it. He's not saying he deserves it, he just wants to scrap for some sort of happiness.