Without KG, Pierce, Allen, Would Rondo Have Become As Good?

To me, it seems like Rondo was pushed so hard by those three guys. It seems that he was hustling extra hard just to prove his worth to the likes of KG, etc. Without these guys, on the team, I doubt Rondo would have become as good as we know he can be.

I remember watching the playoffs, back when the Celtics were on their championship run, and it seemed like every loose ball Rondo was diving nose first to get it. He was making that extra attempt to get a steal or giving that extra cross over/spin move to get to the rim.

Rondo had the potential all along. However, he needed to be pushed to the brink by guys like KG, Pierce, and Ray Allen in order to unlock what was already there.

I think he would have been good, but with a somewhat different skill set and he would be regarded in a much different way.

Mentality wise he would have been helped along playing with a player like KG, dude has the highest standards, Rondo benifitted ALOT from playing with the big 3, credit needs to go to Doc as well.

He isn't that great in the first place
10 pts 10 rebounds with great defense is a nice player but thats it. sounds like a role player to me, which is what he was when he actually won something.

[QUOTE=IncarceratedBob]He isn't that great in the first place
10 pts 10 rebounds with great defense is a nice player but thats it. sounds like a role player to me, which is what he was when he actually won something.[/QUOTE]

He was the third best player of the 2010 and 2012 playoffs.

Sounds like a role player to me...when did you start watching basketball?

Most overrated point guard by far. Can't shoot, ball dominant, and lives off the glory years he had with the big 3; when he wasn't even the go-to guy.

Hasn't done shit as the leader of his team.

[QUOTE=YouGotServed]Most overrated point guard by far. Can't shoot, ball dominant, and lives off the glory years he had with the big 3; when he wasn't even the go-to guy.

Hasn't done shit as the leader of his team.[/QUOTE]

Lol, you obv didn't watch the ECF against the Heat, the one where they took them to 7 games

No. He's overrated to be honest. And have a bad attitude too.

[QUOTE=MichaelCorleone]No. He's overrated to be honest. And have a bad attitude too.[/QUOTE]

:facepalm

[QUOTE=Black and White]Lol, you obv didn't watch the ECF against the Heat, the one where they took them to 7 games[/QUOTE]

I did. Boston lost. Rondo wasn't the go-to guy. Next.

He can get his triple double occasionally sure, but his impact on the game isn't substantial, he needed KG, Pierce and Allen to contend.

[QUOTE=Pushxx]He was the third best player of the 2010 and 2012 playoffs.

Sounds like a role player to me...when did you start watching basketball?[/QUOTE]
Kobe, Gasol, LeBron in 2010

LeBron, Durant, Parker in 2012

I would rank Rondo around 4-8 in each year of playoffs but still that doesn't mean anything. He had a good squad that made deep CF runs those years. Replace him on those teams with legit stars like Tony Parker, Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook, Derrick Rose, etc then the Celtics might actually win something.

5th best player in the playoffs doesn't mean anything, but if it helps you sleep better at night then go for it. GL winning with Raon Rondo as your best player

[QUOTE=YouGotServed]I did. Boston lost. Rondo wasn't the go-to guy. Next.[/QUOTE]
Rondo carried the team on his back that series, the whole big 3 was injured, he was the one making plays, you have to be delusional not to see this

[QUOTE=MichaelCorleone]He can get his triple double occasionally sure, but his impact on the game isn't substantial, he needed KG, Pierce and Allen to contend.[/QUOTE]

Sure, he became better with them, but don't act like he is overrated because he isn't, people just gloss over what he has done, he took the Heat to 7 games when his supporting cast was injured

[QUOTE=Black and White]Sure, he became better with them, but don't act like he is overrated because he isn't, people just gloss over what he has done, he took the Heat to 7 games when his supporting cast was injured[/QUOTE]
Put any other point guard on that 08-10 Celtics team and they contend, maybe even win more than just 1 ring.

The big 3 MADE Rondo.

[QUOTE=YouGotServed]I did. Boston lost. Rondo wasn't the go-to guy. Next.[/QUOTE]
Why would a pass first PG be the go to scorer?

[QUOTE=MichaelCorleone]Put any other point guard on that 08-10 Celtics team and they contend, maybe even win more than just 1 ring.

The big 3 MADE Rondo.[/QUOTE]

Did I not say in my first post his progression had a lot to do with the Big 3/Doc??? Learn to read man.

[QUOTE=YouGotServed]He didn't carry shit. That wasn't his team. lol at this clown.[/QUOTE]

Thats why members of the big 3 and Doc himself were saying that the team is his right?

God I hope Rondo returns to form soon just to shut up these idiots who forgot how good he was. Next people are gonna act like 2011 Rose was just a marginally better Brandon Jennings..

[QUOTE=YouGotServed]Most overrated point guard by far. Can't shoot, ball dominant, and lives off the glory years he had with the big 3; when he wasn't even the go-to guy.

Hasn't done shit as the leader of his team.[/QUOTE]
Leading his team to the finals doesn't count huh? :oldlol:

Guess Dwight hasn't done shit

On topic: those guys pushed him hard to step up, they had groomed him to be the leader as of 2010 and even KG acknowledge by that time he taught him too much. He used to get into argument with the Big 3 :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Black and White]Thats why members of the big 3 and Doc himself were saying that the team is his right?[/QUOTE]
YGS is a fatass clown who is just happy his team got relevant this year. Just act like he's special needs

Let me put it this way. It's a fact.

Rajon Rondo is a phenomenal player, great point guard with high iq and court vision. Almost a Jason Kidd clone. But he lacks leadership, that was why he could succeed with the big 3 veteran, he has a long way to go in terms of being the sole leader on a team.

Best point guard when healthy. Shits on CP3

[QUOTE=JohnFreeman]Best point guard when healthy. Shits on CP3[/QUOTE]
Goran Dragic, Russell Westbrook and Stephen Curry say no.:no:

[QUOTE=Milbuck]God I hope Rondo returns to form soon just to shut up these idiots who forgot how good he was. Next people are gonna act like 2011 Rose was just a marginally better Brandon Jennings..[/QUOTE]

This right here,

God, it's like they are forgetting he was carrying the Celtics against the Heat and pushed them to 7 games.

He is the best playoff PG behind probably a Tony Parker (of the current Pgs)

[QUOTE=MichaelCorleone]Let me put it this way. It's a fact.

Rajon Rondo is a phenomenal player, great point guard with high iq and court vision. Almost a Jason Kidd clone. But he lacks leadership, that was why he could succeed with the big 3 veteran, he has a long way to go in terms of being the sole leader on a team.[/QUOTE]
That's why the Big 3 claimed he was the leader in 2010 right?

He's won as much as LeBron as the sole leader of their team

[QUOTE=MichaelCorleone]Let me put it this way. It's a fact.

Rajon Rondo is a phenomenal player, great point guard with high iq and court vision. Almost a Jason Kidd clone. But he lacks leadership, that was why he could succeed with the big 3 veteran, he has a long way to go in terms of being the sole leader on a team.[/QUOTE]

Rajon Rondo does not lack leadership, many times Doc would just let him run the floor without saying anything, players without leadership qualities don't get trusted to run an offense dude :facepalm

[QUOTE=CelticBaller]YGS is a fatass clown who is just happy his team got relevant this year. Just act like he's special needs[/QUOTE]

Trolls are reaching to new levels, Rondo is the last player that I thought people would call overrated

Leadership on the court, sure he's a proven player.

But all we've heard BEHIND closed doors is how he ruins chemistry and chase away players (Allen) and did not get along with so and so...But that's not his ability, but his personality at work. So he still needs to learn how to get a team to unite, he has the tools as a player to chase the championship, but does he have to drive to bring a team along with him?

lmao @ these clowns catching feelings because I don't go along with their fairy tales. Rondo hasn't done shit without the big 3. Fact. Hasn't done anything praise worthy post Big 3 era, basically as the go-to guy. Fact.

Like I said. Living in the past off the glory days in the KG-Pierce-Allen era.

[QUOTE=Black and White]Trolls are reaching to new levels, Rondo is the last player that I thought people would call overrated[/QUOTE]
They are not people

[QUOTE=MichaelCorleone]Leadership on the court, sure he's a proven player.

But all we've heard BEHIND closed doors is how he ruins chemistry and chase away players (Allen) and did not get along with so and so...But that's not his ability, but his personality at work. So he still needs to learn how to get a team to unite, he has the tools as a player to chase the championship, but does he have to drive to bring a team along with him?[/QUOTE]

If he gets the job done on the court does it matter??

Sure he has had issues with players but lets not act like hes the only one, players butt heads, it happens, but he leads from the front, esentially he is the perfect point guard by definition of the role

[QUOTE=YouGotServed]lmao @ these clowns catching feelings because I don't go along with their fairy tales. Rondo hasn't done shit without the big 3. Fact. Hasn't done anything praise worthy post Big 3 era, basically as the go-to guy. Fact.

Like I said. Living in the past off the glory days in the KG-Pierce-Allen era.[/QUOTE]
What Dwight has done after the Van Gundy era?

What have the rockets done after the Olajuwon era?

God you're and idiot when you try to hard

[QUOTE=Black and White]If he gets the job done on the court does it matter??

Sure he has had issues with players but lets not act like hes the only one, players butt heads, it happens, but he leads from the front, esentially he is the perfect point guard by definition of the role[/QUOTE]
Maybe you're right, so far he's proven to be effective on the court. But you CANNOT deny the importance of team chemistry. If Rondo wants another ring or more, he has to change his way in terms of bringing a cohesive team together.

[QUOTE=JohnFreeman]They are not people[/QUOTE]

This is a good point

[QUOTE=CelticBaller]What Dwight has done after the Van Gundy era?

What have the rockets done after the Olajuwon era?

God you're and idiot when you try to hard[/QUOTE]

are u ok?

I'm not even talking championships. That's asking too much from Rondo.

[QUOTE=Black and White]This is a good point[/QUOTE]
These people still think Howard is better then Cousins. I laugh.

[QUOTE=YouGotServed]lmao @ these clowns catching feelings because I don't go along with their fairy tales. Rondo hasn't done shit without the big 3. Fact. Hasn't done anything praise worthy post Big 3 era, basically as the go-to guy. Fact.

Like I said. Living in the past off the glory days in the KG-Pierce-Allen era.[/QUOTE]

What was KG and Pierce after about 2011? They both struggled with injuries, lets not act like they were in thier prime or something, and after Ray Allen left they were a shell of themselves, he can only do so much,

then Rondo got injured and has been out for a long time, he hasn't had a real run yet.

Stop being delusional

[QUOTE=MichaelCorleone]Maybe you're right, so far he's proven to be effective on the court. But you CANNOT deny the importance of team chemistry. If Rondo wants another ring or more, he has to change his way in terms of bringing a cohesive team together.[/QUOTE]

Maybe he will, when you have that many egos in a locker room they are bound to butt heads, even LeBron and Wade had their moments, I have no doubt he can be a locker room leader, he hasn't had a real chance yet

[QUOTE=JohnFreeman]These people still think Howard is better then Cousins. I laugh.[/QUOTE]

YGS is a nothing poster