Kobe Bryant nails Jaric in face, suspended 1 game

First few pages of this thread are discussing the incident, and then around page 3 the news broke that kobe was suspended 1 game

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none, cuz Jaric isn't a star as Ginobili

kobe was lying his ass off when he said he didnt intentionally try to hurt manu. i hope he gets 3-5 games.

Kobe doing the exact same flailing shot to the face of 2 different players in such a short time span is ridiculous. The first one could have been argued as not intentional but this time it raises a bit of suspicion. He also gave Dirk a black eye with the same move last year. If he didn't learn his lesson the first time I say give him at least a 2-3 game suspension this time.

havent seen the Jaric footage, but cmon hes a star :hammerhead:
they should be allowed to do that.

ESPN has a poll on the front page about this. interestingly, ~45% think he shoul dget 4 or more, 25% 0, and the rext split up. As usual, Kobe is very polarizing.

Jaric had a really good game last night.

I don't like Kobe at all. I think he's an egomaniac. Let's just say for the sake of argument that he doesn't hit these guys intentionally.....he should still be suspended because someone has to say to him...."You might not mean it, but you have this dangerous habit of swinging your arms out and hitting people. It has to stop."

[QUOTE=boozehound]havent seen the Jaric footage, but cmon hes a star :hammerhead: [/QUOTE]
Not as much as Ginobili is.. especially when Stern wanna sell NBA imagine to other countries.

[QUOTE=AIR_ball_Jordan]Not as much as Ginobili is.. especially when Stern wanna sell NBA imagine to other countries.[/QUOTE]
I meant kobes the star. I can see how my structure doesnt convey that. If Shaq wants to bowl people over on his way to the hoop, so be it (at least back in the day). If kobe wants to smack you for blocking his off balance terribel shot, he should be allowed to. "Do you have any idea how many jersey's I've sold?"

[QUOTE=boozehound]I meant kobes the star. I can see how my structure doesnt convey that. If Shaq wants to bowl people over on his way to the hoop, so be it (at least back in the day). If kobe wants to smack you for blocking his off balance terribel shot, he should be allowed to. "Do you have any idea how many jersey's I've sold?"[/QUOTE]

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My bad. I read it wrong then.
But I seriously don't expect any penality from the league..
even I do agree that Kobe should be suspened.
Just think about his history: Mike Miller, Raja Bell, Ginobili, and now Jaric

well, seeing that he has repeatedly done it, everything less than 3 games should surprise me.

I saw the game and it appeared like the same strike he had on Ginobili. He should get a game for the league to be consistent. But you have to admit, there are harder fouls than this, intentional or not, everyday in an NBA game that doesn't warrant a suspension.

anyone have footage?

He shouldnt have got a game for the Manu hit and he shouldnt get a game or more for this hit. How many times has Mutombo been suspended for the amount of KO's and opened wounds he left opponents with? What? You forgot about him? Typical. How many games did Bruce Bowen get for injuring players as he steps under them after they shoot. What all you have to say is Bowen is a dirty player? Wow.

I love how people are so dramatic when it comes to Kobe.

didnt see the game but im assuming if it was intentional, then a suspension is warranted. if thy cant prove intention, then kobe should be ok. GOBB makes good points with deke and bowen.

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i don't think he [I]should[/I] be suspended, but i do think he will get one game.

[QUOTE=DreamRockets]context here :D by your logic the mailman should of been permamnently banned when he elbowed david robinson and put him to sleep.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I think Malone should have been punished a lot more than he was for his dirty play. So that's a poor example.

it was obviously intentional and there is precedent for star players being suspended for blatant elbows to the face.......just ask karl malone.

The ranting, personal insults and crap (and reasonable responses to it) was deleted.

Just have a normal, intelligent discussion about the incident.

This one looks even more obvious than the Ginobili hit. I don't know what goes through Kobe's mind when he's pulling this off. It's not only poor sportsmanship but dangerous too. An elbow to the face ****ing hurts! I wouldn't be surprised if the league now suspends him for multiple games since he's a repeat offender.

He should get suspended for that being the equivalent of a flop down the lane. He does that crap to look like he got fouled. I HATE FLOPPING.

Im obviously not a Kobe fan, but this is getting out of control...

he hit Jaric in the face.... :confusedshrug: so what?

It seems like its some kind of reflex Kobe has to push off when his shot is contested to that degree....but the suspension talk is ridiculous

Offensive foul = Yes
Suspension = Hell no

NBA cant afford to be this soft with the calls

I don't like Kobe, but somehow this just doesn't bother me much. So he's gotten caught hitting guys in the face out of frustration...that **** happens all the time. It's a physical game, and tempers flare occasionally. Sneaky elbows and shoves are pretty common.

i don't think he is intentionally trying to nail people. If he gets suspended again hopefully it'll get Kobe out of the habit of flailing his arms around to try and draw calls when he gets stripped/blocked.

[QUOTE=FPower]I don't like Kobe, but somehow this just doesn't bother me much. So he's gotten caught hitting guys in the face out of frustration...that **** happens all the time. It's a physical game, and tempers flare occasionally. Sneaky elbows and shoves are pretty common.[/QUOTE]
I don't know. Cracking someone in the face with an elbow out of frustration does not happen all the time, I don't think. Otherwise, you would see guys on the floor in a heap a lot more often.

I wasn't so sure after seeing the first one if it was accidental or not. This one looked a lot worse to me. Kobe deserves to get suspended.

This is really what we argue about now?

Please God, let the NBA give us something to have a real debate about.

Kobe is suspended for one game:

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2790534[/url]

I'm pretty sure Kobe flails his arms like that to draw a foul, not so as to intentionally hit a guy in the face. You know, because drawing the foul actually gives him some kind of advantage, where hitting the guy in the face does nothing for him.

The problem is that when he flails like that, sometimes they get hit. It's worth a T and a fine for sure, but to think that could get you suspended for a game for that is silly.

[QUOTE=PMshooter]I'm pretty sure Kobe flails his arms like that to draw a foul, not so as to intentionally hit a guy in the face. You know, because drawing the foul actually gives him some kind of advantage, where hitting the guy in the face does nothing for him.

The problem is that when he flails like that, sometimes they get hit. It's worth a T and a fine for sure, but to think that could get you suspended for a game for that is silly.[/QUOTE]
Reggie Miller was the biggest 'arm flailer' ever. I don't remember him ever elbowing someone in the face. It is obvious that Kobe needs to work on his flailing. He isn't very good at it.

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Kobe is suspended for one game:

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2790534[/url][/QUOTE]

Pathetic. The league is a joke.

[IMG]http://www.laconscience.com/IMG/jpg/mutombo.jpg[/IMG]-"I'm happy my elbows havent got me in trouble."


[IMG]http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20050425/bowen_84715.jpg[/IMG]-"Someone has to take the fall for our actions Deke. Why not Kobe?:oldlol:


[IMG]http://www.laconscience.com/IMG/jpg/mutombo.jpg[/IMG]-":roll: "

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Reggie Miller was the biggest 'arm flailer' ever. I don't remember him ever elbowing someone in the face. It is obvious that Kobe needs to work on his flailing. He isn't very good at it.[/QUOTE]

I wish he'd just stop it and go for the damn rebound, or get back on D. They ain't gonna call on a fading jumper from 25 feet, even if you DID get touched on the elbow.

Excellent points, GOBB.

The league needs some consistency on this crap.

Maybe the league doesn't suspend Mutombo because they're afraid that, if he gives an interview with his thoughts on the suspension, all the knives that he's had in his throat for the last 15 years will come flying out and cut people.

The guy sounds like he had a steaknife omelet for breakfast.

Mutombo is an equal opportunity elbower. He takes out his own players as well as opponents.

Kobe elbows only seem to happen when he gets his shot blocked in crucial situations.

Does anyone know why the leagues golden child is on the floor in aganozing pain?

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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Mutombo is an equal opportunity elbower. He takes out his own players as well as opponents.

Kobe elbows only seem to happen when he gets his shot blocked in crucial situations.[/QUOTE]

See your boy in the above photo.



And i recall Stu saying he was gonna warn Bruce Bowen about the way he defended a player shooting a jumper and let him know he has to adjust/change his actions. Soon after he said that a couple weeks go by and BOOM, Bruce strikes again. No action. I guess no one sent Stu the videotape.

Whatever. :violin:

[QUOTE=GOBB]Does anyone know why the leagues golden child is on the floor in aganozing pain?

[IMG]http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2005-01/15742523.jpg[/IMG]




See your boy in the above photo.



And i recall Stu saying he was gonna warn Bruce Bowen about the way he defended a player shooting a jumper and let him know he has to adjust/change his actions. Soon after he said that a couple weeks go by and BOOM, Bruce strikes again. No action. I guess no one sent Stu the videotape.

Whatever. :violin:[/QUOTE]
I believe the next time they played each other, he knocked TMac out of the game.

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]I believe the next time they played each other, he knocked TMac out of the game.[/QUOTE]

Oh so since he evened the odds then his suspension is witheld. Makes a ton of sense. :ohwell:

That's pretty lame he gets suspended, although it was clear he did it intentionally.

Why is Kobe bowing only caucasions? Hmmmmmm...

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