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I had a couple of hits of dro and I was good. Not too high, but I couldn't feel any pain. Better than my pain killers for sure.
Then yesterday I had a half a blunt of something exotic and damn I was too high. I didn't like what it did to my mental state. Just not a routine smoker problem.
Even then though, I was happy to not have wny pain. It for sure works better than my prescription pain pills and muscle relaxers.
Anybody have anything else I could try to get away from the pain pills?
might not help with the pain so much, but DMT is some good ****ing shit homie. You'll be in a whole nother state of mind, a higher level of consciousness where you won't even give a shit about pain.
once you realize we are all one this day to day shit doesn't even matter man, you feel me? your pain is my pain, it's the same shit we are all going through as the collective god of this universe.
What pain pills you got?
Take opiates and smoke weed if you really want to kill the pain.
I don't do drugs that is why I am smarter than most here even though it doesn't mean much but I am glad the OP's pain is gone.
Herbal remedies are always better than the chemical concoctions.
Instead of THC, you can look into CBD. it doesn't get you high but has the medical benefits you're looking for
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[QUOTE=Dresta]What pain pills you got?
Take opiates and smoke weed if you really want to kill the pain.[/QUOTE]
I am on Hydrocodone for pain and Somas for the muscle spasms. I've been on these hoes since March 12th (when I had surgery)
The thing about me smoking weed is my gf hates it. She didn't know about yesterday, but Friday she was pissed when I told her. It really really did work better than my pain killers though. I have to find me somebody out here in my neighborhood that sells cause I want to keep on. I wake up when my gf gets the kids ready for school and then I'm chilling for 8 hours at home.
[QUOTE=9erempiree]I don't do drugs that is why [B]I am smarter[/B] than most here even though it doesn't mean much but I am glad the OP's pain is gone.
[B]Herbal remedies are always better than the chemical concoctions.[/B][/QUOTE]
:facepalm
Friggin idiot. Opiate pills contain frequently only a single chemical (active), whereas marijuana is actually a concoction of many different chemicals. (also, many opiate chemicals are simply extractions from what has grown naturally, whereas high grade weed is bred artificially by human beings to manipulate the balance of chemicals + it's effects).
[QUOTE=ILballa]Instead of THC, you can look into CBD. it doesn't get you high but has the medical benefits you're looking for
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I think I'll be able to handle the pain without anything in a few more weeks, but until then I gotta get something. I didn't know how depressing this recovery would be and just how much pain I'd be in.
[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]I think I'll be able to handle the pain without anything in a few more weeks, but until then I gotta get something. I didn't know how depressing this recovery would be and just how much pain I'd be in.[/QUOTE]
is getting high really that big of a problem? :oldlol:
shit, with being a fan of james harden and the rockets during playoff time you think getting high would be an added bonus
[QUOTE=Dresta]:facepalm
Friggin idiot. Opiate pills contain frequently only a single chemical (active), whereas marijuana is actually a concoction of many different chemicals. (also, many opiate chemicals are simply extractions from what has grown naturally, whereas high grade weed is bred artificially by human beings to manipulate the balance of chemicals + it's effects).[/QUOTE]
Like I said, if I was on medication, I would rather smoke something on God's green Earth than pop a pill that was mixed.
So you telling me pills are natural compounds? You know what those drugs are mixed with? :facepalm
I got a bridge to sell you.
[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]I am on Hydrocodone for pain and Somas for the muscle spasms. I've been on these hoes since March 12th (when I had surgery)
The thing about me smoking weed is my gf hates it. She didn't know about yesterday, but Friday she was pissed when I told her. It really really did work better than my pain killers though. I have to find me somebody out here in my neighborhood that sells cause I want to keep on. I wake up when my gf gets the kids ready for school and then I'm chilling for 8 hours at home.[/QUOTE]
Soma! Isn't that the name of the drug from Brave New World?
'don't give a damn, just take a gram' or something.
If your pills aren't working very well you might want to tell your doctor so you can try something else, because all these drugs have different levels of effectiveness on different people, depending on how active certain enzymes in your liver are, so there may be something that is more effective for you.
Might wanna try Hash in that case: much tougher to recognise the smell.
[QUOTE=9erempiree]Like I said, if I was on medication, I would rather smoke something on God's green Earth than pop a pill that was mixed.
So you telling me pills are natural compounds? You know what those drugs are mixed with? :facepalm
I got a bridge to sell you.[/QUOTE]
Damn you're stupid. Morphine and Codeine are naturally occurring compounds, both being Alkaloids. Here:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkaloid[/url]
[QUOTE]Alkaloids are a group of naturally occurring chemical compounds that contain mostly basic nitrogen atoms. This group also includes some related compounds with neutral[2] and even weakly acidic properties.[3] Some synthetic compounds of similar structure are also attributed to alkaloids.[4] In addition to carbon, hydrogen and nitrogen, alkaloids may also contain oxygen, sulfur and more rarely other elements such as chlorine, bromine, and phosphorus.[5]
Alkaloids are produced by a large variety of organisms, including bacteria, fungi, plants, and animals, and are part of the group of natural products (also called secondary metabolites). Many alkaloids can be purified from crude extracts by acid-base extraction. Many alkaloids are toxic to other organisms. They often have pharmacological effects and are used as medications, as recreational drugs, or in entheogenic rituals. Examples are the local anesthetic and stimulant cocaine, the psychedelic psilocin, the stimulant caffeine, nicotine,[6] the analgesic morphine, the antibacterial berberine, the anticancer compound vincristine, the antihypertension agent reserpine, the cholinomimeric galantamine, the spasmolysis agent atropine, the vasodilator vincamine, the anti-arrhythmia compound quinidine, the anti-asthma therapeutic ephedrine, and the antimalarial drug quinine. Although alkaloids act on a diversity of metabolic systems in humans and other animals, they almost uniformly invoke a bitter taste.[/QUOTE]
Moreover, whether something occurs naturally or not is completely irrelevant as to its harmfulness. Many synthesised compounds are safe, whereas many naturally occurring ones are not. And it is well known that inhaling the smoke from a burnt plant into your lungs is bad for your health, regardless of its colour. Get a ****ing clue.
[QUOTE=russwest0]is getting high really that big of a problem? :oldlol:
shit, with being a fan of james harden and the rockets during playoff time you think getting high would be an added bonus[/QUOTE]
I honestly just don't like it. I damn near can't function if I'm too high. Like yesterday I couldn't do shit until it wore off.
Haha I can only get high during work hours. My kids would blow my high I'm sure and my chick would kill me.
[QUOTE=Dresta]Soma! Isn't that the name of the drug from Brave New World?
'don't give a damn, just take a gram' or something.
If your pills aren't working very well you might want to tell your doctor so you can try something else, because all these drugs have different levels of effectiveness on different people, depending on how active certain enzymes in your liver are, so there may be something that is more effective for you.
Might wanna try Hash in that case: much tougher to recognise the smell.[/QUOTE]
People go crazy for these hoes, but it just don't do it for me. All these pills work for me it's just that I'm uncomfortable with taking them for so long. I imagine it's wreaking havok on my insides. I coukd very well be wrong though.
I'll look into hash and see what I can hash out. Fail?
[QUOTE=9erempiree]I don't do drugs[B] that is why I am smarter than most here [/B]even though it doesn't mean much but I am glad the OP's pain is gone.
Herbal remedies are always better than the chemical concoctions.[/QUOTE]
:roll:
smoke indica if you have back pain and shit like that. smoke sativa if you wanna have a good time.
[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]I had a couple of hits of dro and I was good. Not too high, but I couldn't feel any pain. Better than my pain killers for sure.
Then yesterday I had a half a blunt of something exotic and damn I was too high. I didn't like what it did to my mental state. Just not a routine smoker problem.
Even then though, I was happy to not have wny pain. It for sure works better than my prescription pain pills and muscle relaxers.
Anybody have anything else I could try to get away from the pain pills?[/QUOTE]
do texans still call their dirt weed corn??
[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]People go crazy for these hoes, but it just don't do it for me. All these pills work for me it's just that I'm uncomfortable with taking them for so long. I imagine it's wreaking havok on my insides. I coukd very well be wrong though.
I'll look into hash and see what I can hash out. Fail?[/QUOTE]
Provided they aren't making you severely constipated they cause no real physical harm, and you won't damage your body from taking them. Alcohol is far more harmful to the body than they are, which is what your body tells you when you suffer a hangover. The only thing is prolonged use leads to addiction, which in turn means withdrawal and more pain later on. If your back pain is severe then it is probably worth taking for a couple of weeks, otherwise just sparingly when pain is particularly bad.
What kind of dose are you on? Makes a big difference as to how difficult it will be to stop.
what about weed as an antidepressant? is it better than Xanax, Zoloft, and the like?
[QUOTE=Charlie Sheen]do texans still call their dirt weed corn??[/QUOTE]
I've never heard it called corn before. Dirt weed is regular weed right? We call it reggie or regular.
[QUOTE=Dresta]Provided they aren't making you constipated they cause no real physical harm, and you won't damage your body from taking them. Alcohol is far more harmful to the body than they are, which is what your body tells you when you suffer a hangover. The only thing is prolonged use leads to addiction, which in turn means withdrawal and more pain later on. If your back pain is severe then it is probably worth taking for a couple of weeks, otherwise just sparingly when pain is particularly bad.
What kind of dose are you on? Makes a big difference as to how difficult it will be to stop.[/QUOTE]
Super fuggin constipated man. Oh my god I hate it. I'm on hydrocodone 10.5 I think. 1 to 2 pills every 4 to 6 hours and a Soma every 8 hours or as needed for muscle spasms.
[QUOTE=Dresta]Provided they aren't making you severely constipated they cause no real physical harm, and you won't damage your body from taking them. Alcohol is far more harmful to the body than they are, which is what your body tells you when you suffer a hangover. The only thing is prolonged use leads to addiction, which in turn means withdrawal and more pain later on. If your back pain is severe then it is probably worth taking for a couple of weeks, otherwise just sparingly when pain is particularly bad.
What kind of dose are you on? Makes a big difference as to how difficult it will be to stop.[/QUOTE]
Unless he's taking hydrocodone/other opiates loaded with acetaminophen, making it quite taxing on the liver. And since he's in the US I'm sure he is. But yeah, the actual opiates themselves don't have much physical toxicity, but the constipation is a *****.
[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]Super fuggin constipated man. Oh my god I hate it. I'm on hydrocodone 10.5 I think. 1 to 2 pills every 4 to 6 hours and a Soma every 8 hours or as needed for muscle spasms.[/QUOTE]
Honestly don't think it should be particularly hard to quit taking that much for only a couple weeks. You will only have minor withdrawal symptoms and should be able to get something like Lofexidine to lessen those (bud can also help here).
I'm generally alright with constipation when taking opiates: usually go every day, and it's only sometimes those super-condensed pebbles that are difficult to get out :lol. I think smoking and drinking coffee helps, as does drinking lots of water.
[QUOTE=tjgoHAM]what about weed as an antidepressant? is it better than Xanax, Zoloft, and the like?[/QUOTE]
Xanax isn't an antidepressant, and from my experience prolonged and consistent use of weed leads to depression rather than relieves it (talking months or even years without a sustained break). Not a good idea if your head isn't right to be taking drugs that have psychedelic effects, even mild ones like cannabis.
[QUOTE=oarabbus]Unless he's taking hydrocodone/other opiates loaded with acetaminophen, making it quite taxing on the liver. And since he's in the US I'm sure he is. But yeah, the actual opiates themselves don't have much physical toxicity, but the constipation is a *****.[/QUOTE]
What is it 300 or 325 mg of APAP? So he'd only be taking less than 2 grams a day for 2-3 weeks; can't see that causing any harm. In the UK they ram each pill with 500mg of the shit the bastards. Can always perform extraction if you're not worried about a bit of waste as well.
get a bowl and lay off the blunts.
[QUOTE=Dresta]
[B]Xanax isn't an antidepressant, and from my experience prolonged and consistent use of weed leads to depression rather than relieves it (talking months or even years without a sustained break).[B] Not a good idea if your head isn't right to be taking drugs that have psychedelic effects, even mild ones like cannabis.[/B][/B]
What is it 300 or 325 mg of APAP? So he'd only be taking less than 2 grams a day for 2-3 weeks; can't see that causing any harm. In the UK they ram each pill with 500mg of the shit the bastards. Can always perform extraction if you're not worried about a bit of waste as well.[/QUOTE]
All the bolded is absolutely true and OP would do well to heed these words. As for the APAP, 300/325 isn't bad. Unfortunately the most common kind by far are those nasty 5/500 hydro/APAP pills that (personally) cause heartburn/acid reflux if an extraction isn't performed
[QUOTE=Dresta]Honestly don't think it should be particularly hard to quit taking that much for only a couple weeks. You will only have minor withdrawal symptoms and should be able to get something like Lofexidine to lessen those (bud can also help here).
I'm generally alright with constipation when taking opiates: usually go every day, and it's only sometimes those super-condensed pebbles that are difficult to get out :lol. I think smoking and drinking coffee helps, as does drinking lots of water.
Xanax isn't an antidepressant, and from my experience prolonged and consistent use of weed leads to depression rather than relieves it (talking months or even years without a sustained break). Not a good idea if your head isn't right to be taking drugs that have psychedelic effects, even mild ones like cannabis.
What is it 300 or 325 mg of APAP? So he'd only be taking less than 2 grams a day for 2-3 weeks; can't see that causing any harm. In the UK they ram each pill with 500mg of the shit the bastards. Can always perform extraction if you're not worried about a bit of waste as well.[/QUOTE]
US FDA forced a reformulation to lower the APAP doses, 500 went to 325/300. It's funny how toxic the acetaminophen is in comparison to opiates, it takes more to cause respiratory suppression than to cause liver damage.
OP, if hydrocodone is still leaving you in great discomfort, talk to your prescriber. Because opiates are controlled substances, most doctors will start you off with lesser opiates. Something like Morphine sulfate tablets will provide better relief, but never ask for a particular drug. ..it makes you look suspect.
[QUOTE=highwhey][B]US FDA forced a reformulation to lower the APAP doses, 500 went to 325/300. It's funny how toxic the acetaminophen is in comparison to opiates, it takes more to cause respiratory suppression than to cause liver damage. [/B]
OP, if hydrocodone is still leaving you in great discomfort, talk to your prescriber. Because opiates are controlled substances, most doctors will start you off with lesser opiates. Something like Morphine sulfate tablets will provide better relief, but never ask for a particular drug. ..it makes you look suspect.[/QUOTE]
:eek: when was this? How the hell did I miss this? Why did it happen after the peak of my opiate days :wtf:
[QUOTE=oarabbus]:eek: when was this? How the hell did I miss this? Why did it happen after the peak of my opiate days :wtf:[/QUOTE]
2014; very recently.
I just don't want to keep taking these pills. The pain from my back surgery is still so intense that I can't make it through the day without them. That's why I wanted to try marijuana, but I got a tad bit too high the other day.
I think I'll go with bud for about a week or 2 and hope like hell I'm healed up enough to manage the pain without anything.
[QUOTE=highwhey][B]US FDA forced a reformulation to lower the APAP doses, 500 went to 325/300. It's funny how toxic the acetaminophen is in comparison to opiates, it takes more to cause respiratory suppression than to cause liver damage. [/B]
OP, if hydrocodone is still leaving you in great discomfort, talk to your prescriber. Because opiates are controlled substances, most doctors will start you off with lesser opiates. Something like Morphine sulfate tablets will provide better relief, but never ask for a particular drug. ..it makes you look suspect.[/QUOTE]
Ah, i didn't know this - is a much better idea than having 500, because APAP poisoning is no joke (plus unpredictable), and there's no need to put half a gram in each pill. Especially combined with such an addictive/pleasurable substance, because people don't know the risks, try to get high (or kill excess pain), and end up in hospital or dead with APAP poisoning.
Got a bunch of 5/325 percs last time i was in the US, and they were great, and it was also great not to have to worry about your liver when taking 3-4 of them.
I tried talking to my chick about using marijuana again and she exploded on me and said I would become a drug head. She thinks I will get addicted. I told her how would I get addicted to marijuana and I can't even get addicted to prescription pain pills lol.
[QUOTE=Dresta]:facepalm
Friggin idiot. Opiate pills contain frequently only a single chemical (active), whereas marijuana is actually a concoction of many different chemicals. (also, many opiate chemicals are simply extractions from what has grown naturally, whereas high grade weed is bred artificially by human beings to manipulate the balance of chemicals + it's effects).[/QUOTE]
You have done too many drugs in your lifetime and it has clouded your judgement.
I know about guys like you who are in denial and think synthetic drugs are ok.
Sober up first and then chat with me.
:facepalm
you ever try hash oil, rubbing it into your pain areas?
I think if I were you I wouldn't smoke it.
Don't they have Marijuana products already?
Use that instead, at least it'll stop you from getting too high, or you are always below a certain level. clearly I don't know if it metabolizes by time consistently as say alcohol. but I don't know, being too high and difficult to function happens.
I met this taxi driver once, had his back f*cked up because of some type of occupational injury (drilling oil or something) honestly did not know what to tell him besides feeling bad because if that's permanent and you really don't like pain meds for what it does to you. I can see how marijuana is better, as long as you can still function of course.
Sorry, I'm still of no help.
[url]http://twicebakedinwashington.com/2013/07/24/lets-rub-cannabis-into-our-skin-and-feel-better/[/url]
[QUOTE=russwest0]might not help with the pain so much, but DMT is some good ****ing shit homie. You'll be in a whole nother state of mind, a higher level of consciousness where you won't even give a shit about pain.
once you realize we are all one this day to day shit doesn't even matter man, you feel me? your pain is my pain, it's the same shit we are all going through as the collective god of this universe.[/QUOTE]
Don't know if you're fu[COLOR="Black"]ck[/COLOR]ing around or not, but I actually tried DMT junior year of high school. It was absolutely unreal. I thought I was talking to angels in another dimension.
i had a broken tibia and fibula and a collar bone in less than 6 months. how about you for the first time in your life (OP i'm talking about you) be a man and take the pain and not be a ***** and use marijuana tham say it is ''for the pain'' :facepalm
[QUOTE=9erempiree]You have done too many drugs in your lifetime and it has clouded your judgement.
I know about guys like you who are in denial and think synthetic drugs are ok.
Sober up first and then chat with me.
:facepalm[/QUOTE]
Morphine and Codeine aren't synthetic you ****ing idiot. Come back to chat with me once you've learnt to read.
[QUOTE=Dresta]Ah, i didn't know this - is a much better idea than having 500, because APAP poisoning is no joke (plus unpredictable), and there's no need to put half a gram in each pill. Especially combined with such an addictive/pleasurable substance, because people don't know the risks, try to get high (or kill excess pain), and end up in hospital or dead with APAP poisoning.
Got a bunch of 5/325 percs last time i was in the US, and they were great, and it was also great not to have to worry about your liver when taking 3-4 of them.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I'm not sure how they thought putting 1/4th of a toxic dosage into a pain pill that is used "as needed" or often every 4 to 6 hours, was safe.
You ever try oxycodone? Those instant release tabs were pretty good, expensive as heck tho (on the street).