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Cavs owner Dan Gilbert announces on his account that team and Kyrie Irving have agreed on max extension and will sign July 10.
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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 1 min
Cavs owner Dan Gilbert just tweeted that he and Kyrie Irving have shaken hands on a max contract extension. Quite a coup for CLE out of gate
well, that didn't take long...
It's interesting because statistically Isaiah Thomas was just as good as Irving and by advanced stats even better but he's probably gonna get like 7-8 mil while Irving gets 18...
good for him and good move by the cavs organization.
now if Wiggins develops into the players he's capable of being... they could be a force for the next decade.
great to hear
It's not like they need the cap space in the future.
[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]It's interesting because statistically Isaiah Thomas was just as good as Irving and by advanced stats even better but he's probably gonna get like 7-8 mil while Irving gets 18...[/QUOTE]
Watching Coach Nick? :oldlol:
[QUOTE=navy]Watching Coach Nick? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
No. Did he do a vid about it?
[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]It's interesting because statistically Isaiah Thomas was just as good as Irving and by advanced stats even better but he's probably gonna get like 7-8 mil while Irving gets 18...[/QUOTE]
Thats b/c he gets Pepsi commercials
[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]It's interesting because statistically Isaiah Thomas was just as good as Irving and by advanced stats even better but he's probably gonna get like 7-8 mil while Irving gets 18...[/QUOTE]
Key word here is statistically. Irving alone will sell plenty more tickets than Isaiah Thomas could. It's also widely considered that Irving had a down year and is reasonable to think that he can get better, whereas Thomas' physical limitations might have seen him hit his peak already. Irving has the ability to single handedly win a game for you, I'm not so sure the same can be said about Thomas.
Horrible, horrible move by Cleveland.
This dude ain't worth 90 mill
[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]It's interesting because statistically Isaiah Thomas was just as good as Irving and by advanced stats even better but he's probably gonna get like 7-8 mil while Irving gets 18...[/QUOTE]
You're just basing that off of one season though. Irving has been putting up these numbers since his rookie season and he can easily get better to where he could possibly be a 25 PPG scorer. I don't see Thomas turning into that.
[QUOTE=KyleKong]Horrible, horrible move by Cleveland.
This dude ain't worth 90 mill[/QUOTE]
So...you don't give him the max, he turns it down and goes somewhere else for the max. Is that what you're saying you'd do?
money well spent.
a cornerstone star to build around and attract other big free agents for the next 6 years...
[QUOTE=Meticode]So...you don't give him the max, he turns it down and goes somewhere else for the max. Is that what you're saying you'd do?[/QUOTE]
Well f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]ck, isn't that a spicy pickle you just put me in.
[QUOTE=Magic731]Key word here is statistically. [B]Irving alone will sell plenty more tickets than Isaiah Thomas could.[/B] [/QUOTE]
I see this point about ticket sales brought up a lot and yeah from a business pov no doubt that Kyrie is worth the 18 mil but to me personally as a fan? I'd want my team making the best [B]basketball[/B] move. I could care less about popularity/owner's profits.
[QUOTE]It's also widely considered that Irving had a down year and is reasonable to think that he can get better, whereas Thomas' physical limitations might have seen him hit his peak already. Irving has the ability to single handedly win a game for you, I'm not so sure the same can be said about Thomas.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying that Irving isn't better or close to as good as Thomas or that he doesn't have more potential. I'm saying he isn't THAT much better. He's not 10 mil better...
Curious to see how he fits in w/ the new coach
[QUOTE=KyleKong]Well f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]ck, isn't that a spicy pickle you just put me in.[/QUOTE]
Well that's the likely scenario if you don't give him the max, some other team will gladly do it.
I have a feeling next season will be his best year
Well, y'all can't make 100 "Kyrie wants out of Cleveland" threads every month anymore. :lol
[QUOTE=Smook A.]I have a feeling next season will be his best year[/QUOTE]
By the numbers he hasnt improved since his rookie year:lol :lol :lol
all he needs to do is improve a bit to have his best year:lol :lol
[QUOTE=MC Gusto]Well, y'all can't make 100 "Kyrie wants out of Cleveland" threads every month anymore. :lol[/QUOTE]
In 2019, he's gone. :applause:
Any news on Waiters?
[QUOTE=Meticode]Well that's the likely scenario if you don't give him the max, some other team will gladly do it.[/QUOTE]
Fvck being a G.M.
Too hard.
[QUOTE=Hamtaro CP3KDKG]By the numbers he hasnt improved since his rookie year:lol :lol :lol
all he needs to do is improve a bit to have his best year:lol :lol[/QUOTE]
His 2nd season was his best though
[QUOTE=Meticode]Well that's the likely scenario if you don't give him the max, some other team will gladly do it.[/QUOTE]
If they did Cavs could match. The option isn't give him max or let him go for nothing. It's give him max or trade him.
[QUOTE=Hamtaro CP3KDKG]By the numbers he hasnt improved since his rookie year:lol :lol :lol
all he needs to do is improve a bit to have his best year:lol :lol[/QUOTE]
I feel he would've improved this year, but bum f*ck Mike Brown has no clue how to run any offense. It's all "Play hard defense and do whatever the f*ck you want on offense."
In before PB cries out how he's overpaid and overrated.
[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]If they did Cavs could match. The option isn't give him max or let him go for nothing. It's give him max or trade him.[/QUOTE]
Why would any team trade for him when they can possibly just not give up anything and sign him outright after his rookie contract is up?
[QUOTE=Meticode]Why would any team trade for him when they can possibly just not give up anything and sign him outright after his rookie contract is up?[/QUOTE]
Because they can't. He's an RFA meaning that the Cavs can match any contract he gets.
[QUOTE=Meticode]I feel he would've improved this year, but bum f*ck Mike Brown has no clue how to run any offense. It's all "Play hard defense and do whatever the f*ck you want on offense."[/QUOTE]
I expect a great season from Kyrie this year.
With proper coaching and defensive/offensive sets, this Cavs team could really come together and look totally different.
And kyrie gives a big middle finger to all the new york and LA media. with a extra FU to WOJ who kyrie called out on twitter this year for making bs up.
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Great offseason for the Cavs continues. The fact that Kyrie signed this so quickly after all of the chatter we've endured for the last year is a tremendous vote of confidence.
[QUOTE=El Gato Negro]And kyrie gives a big middle finger to all the new york and LA media. with a extra FU to WOJ who kyrie called out on twitter this year for making bs up.[/QUOTE]
He actually called out Windhorst for making sh!t up, but your point stands.
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Locked up for the next six years, Windy, you fat POS.
[QUOTE=KyleKong]Horrible, horrible move by Cleveland.
This dude ain't worth 90 mill[/QUOTE]
Dumb as shit is Kyle Kong
Good Move. Pretty hard to sign a star in Cavs considering how well constructed and entertaining the city is
[QUOTE=imnew09]Good Move. Pretty hard to sign a star in Cavs considering how well constructed and entertaining the city is[/QUOTE]
I read this post five times and I still don't understand it.
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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]I read this post five times and I still don't understand it.
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Think he means it's a good signing considering nobody of note wants to sign in Cleveland long term.
This post is a big [COLOR="Black"]fu[/COLOR]ck you to Brian Windhorst.
[QUOTE=poido123]Think he means it's a good signing considering nobody of note wants to sign in Cleveland long term.[/QUOTE]
I know what he meant, but it is probably best not to use Google translate when you're insulting an entire city.
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[QUOTE=Uncle Drew]This post is a big [COLOR="Black"]fu[/COLOR]ck you to Brian Windhorst.[/QUOTE]
I hope Windhorst chokes on a bratwurst.
For those of you who don't know what we're referring to, I direct you to the following which he put out there the day of our most important game since 2010 while scrapping for a playoff spot late in the season...
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[QUOTE]CtB: Last question: so there’s been a lot written this year about Kyrie being unhappy in Cleveland – that he wants to leave as soon as possible. A lot of people in Cleveland particularly have criticized that line of story for being the equivalent of picking at a scab, at the very best, to just plain not being newsworthy when the team has control over him for as long as they do. What’s your response to that criticism?
Windhorst: 2010 taught me a lot of lessons and I’m applying them the way I’m covering the LeBron free agency. I’ve written a lot of stuff this year that in 2010 I’d have been like, “What’s the point of writing that? It’s not going to happen.” Well…
And, as far as Kyrie, rumblings and stuff, with LeBron I would have let it go. Well I’m not going to let it go [now]. I’m going to talk about it and here’s the truth:
The truth is [Kyrie’s] camp has been putting out there for years – years – that he doesn’t want to be in Cleveland. That they don’t want him in Cleveland. He doesn’t like Mike Brown. He didn’t like Chris Grant. He doesn’t like Dion Waiters. He’s already gotten a General Manager fired. He might get Mike Brown fired. This is the last time – once he signs he loses all of his leverage – so this is the last time he gets to enact leverage. I know he’s said all the right things so, fine, on July 1, when they offer a max contract – which they will – and I don’t even know if he’s a max player, but you have to sign him – sign a five year, no out. That’s what a max contract is. A max contract is five years, no out. If you want out or you want three years, that’s not a max contract. You want three years? Okay, we’ll give you $12 million a year. We’re not giving you the full thing.
I’m just giving you my feel right now and my feel is that he’s not crazy about [signing the full max extension] unless he gets everything checked off across the board.
And the other thing is: if the Cavs ever dream of having LeBron, it’s not going to be with Kyrie there. LeBron and Kyrie have drifted apart in the last few years, even to the point that if the Cavs wanted to get LeBron they would maybe trade Kyrie for someone who would fit better with LeBron. And I’m not making that up. That line of thinking was not originated by me. That’s just the truth.
Now, Kyrie has been very upset by this stuff but, whether he wants to acknowledge it or not, it exists out there and I’m just saying the way it is. I’m sure Cavs fans are upset about it. The Cavs are upset about it. When I’ve written about it, the Cavs have been like “Why does this stuff have to be written about us?” I say, “It has to be written about you because this could happen.”
I think this is very elementary from Dan Gilbert’s perspective. If Kyrie wants to play for Team USA, he’s going to have to do his deal before mid-July when he goes to play for it and he’ll either take the five years or he won’t. If the answer is “no” to five years, he goes on the trade block. Period. I think it’s pretty simple.
I thought I knew Kyrie, but he’s just disappointed me this year with his immaturity. I really do think that if he will lock up for five that you have to do that. But if he starts messing around playing power games, you’ve got to trade him. Dan Gilbert has said as much. At the end of the day, if Kyrie was really a max player, this Cavs team would not be where they are. He would have carried them to much more than this. I’m not saying he has to be LeBron, but he’s only spent one day of his career above .500. I know it’s unpopular for some people, but after 2010 I’m not in the business of messing around. [B]It’s definitely out there in the NBA that Kyrie is not happy in Cleveland – but if that’s not the case, he has a golden opportunity to prove everybody wrong and that opportunity is coming in a few months.[/B][/QUOTE]
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Kyrie responded with a flurry of tweets, basically calling him a liar.
Suck it, fatso.
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