Explain to me why Melo should chose Chicago?

I don't get it, why should he chose Chicago over NY or Houston? People say The Bulls are contenders but how is that?

- Rose is injury prone and not reliable at all, especially for a guy like Melo who wants to compete the rest of the way until he retires. I have a very hard time believing Rose will be back to what he once was. The man didn't even look like his old self last season before the latest injury.

- Noah is good energy guy and good defender but not exactly top tier 2 way player. And if Rose is out, Melo can't count on a defensive guy to be his 2nd option.

To me, Melo in Chicago will just be another version of the Knicks. An injury prone star in Rose (Amare) and a defensive center in Noah(Chandler). He would have to still have to carry the offense on his back just like he did with the Knicks.

Houston is a much better situation, Howard and Harden are worth playing with.

Two reasons...

Noah

Thibs

Thibs is a brilliant man and the team defense being elite is virtually guaranteed.

Another thread?! Houston doesn't need more offense since they're ranked 1 or 2, they need defense which melo isn't really good at. Dwight was already complaining that he doesn't get enough touches, what would happen if Melo joins :facepalm

Also, maybe Melo doesn't want to take the easy way out by going to Houston. That team would be ridiculously stacked and anything less than a title is failure.

4 seed with ZERO scoring options.

Add two really good ones (Rose/Melo) and that is probably the best in the East.

Are you crazy?

Someone is shitting in their pants that the Heat might actually have some competition in the east.

:facepalm All these "Melo to Chicago makes no sense" threads are bringing in a new level of stupidity. And f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]cking LOL at the Houston/Harden part.

[QUOTE=Droid101]4 seed with ZERO scoring options.

Add two really good ones (Rose/Melo) and that is probably the best in the East.

Are you crazy?[/QUOTE]
This.

Have you seen Thibs coach this team the last two years? Add one of the best scorers in the league AND a former MVP in Rose and they're instant contenders. Seriously, they have all the elements.

Rose/Jimmy/Melo/Taj/Noah

^that's ECF at least

[QUOTE=Milbuck]:facepalm All these "Melo to Chicago makes no sense" threads are bringing in a new level of stupidity. And f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]cking LOL at the Houston/Harden part.[/QUOTE]

This shit is even dumber than that "should the NBA play games on grass?" thread.

[QUOTE=Droid101]
Are you crazy?[/QUOTE]
Dude, it's pauk. Goes without saying.

I was going to add to the ether when I saw the thread title but then came into see every post after the OP was spot on ether.

:applause:

I will anyway!

You realize the West is an absolute shit storm? I mean the Spurs went to 7 games in the 1st round for christ's sake. Spurs are back next year, OKC and Clippers are scary good, Warriors, Blazers, Mavs, Grizz???

Are you out of your mind?

CMON MAN!

[QUOTE=Nash]I don't get it, why should he chose Chicago over NY or Houston? People say The Bulls are contenders but how is that?

- Rose is injury prone and not reliable at all, especially for a guy like Melo who wants to compete the rest of the way until he retires. I have a very hard time believing Rose will be back to what he once was. The man didn't even look like his old self last season before the latest injury.

- Noah is good energy guy and good defender but not exactly top tier 2 way player. And if Rose is out, Melo can't count on a defensive guy to be his 2nd option.

To me, Melo in Chicago will just be another version of the Knicks. An injury prone star in Rose (Amare) and a defensive center in Noah(Chandler). He would have to still have to carry the offense on his back just like he did with the Knicks.

[B][SIZE="5"]Houston is a much better situation[/SIZE][/B], Howard and [B][SIZE="7"]Harden[/SIZE][/B] are worth playing with.[/QUOTE]


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Bulls only problem is offense

Melo = Elite offensive player

Chicago + Melo = Perfect match

Melo doesn't have to play defense because Jimmy Butler will guard the other teams best Wing and Noah or Gibson will guard the best big men. As a result Melo can always guard the other team's worst offensive player.

[QUOTE=Smook A.]Bulls only problem is offense

Melo = Elite offensive player

Chicago + Melo = Perfect match[/QUOTE]



From a Bulls fan to a Rockets fan, I always say Chicago is a better option just based on the Western Conference. The competition is so thick its truly a conference thriving with contending teams.

I love what Morey has done down there. I dont necessarily think Houston is a good fit for Melo, but I never rule out elite talent playing together, they usually find a way.

But you said it. Bulls need Melo, and Bulls supply Melo right back w/ what he needs. A team playing together and top 2-3 defense.

[QUOTE=Dengness9]From a Bulls fan to a Rockets fan, I always say Chicago is a better option just based on the Western Conference. The competition is so thick its truly a conference thriving with contending teams.

I love what Morey has done down there. I dont necessarily think Houston is a good fit for Melo, but I never rule out elite talent playing together, they usually find a way.

But you said it. Bulls need Melo, and Bulls supply Melo right back w/ what he needs. A team playing together and top 2-3 defense.[/QUOTE]
Yup that's why I say Melo and Chicago are a perfect fit. He has the best chance to win a title there especially since the Bulls are in the East. Won't be surprised at all if I see the Bulls in the finals next year when they get Carmelo

[QUOTE=SpecialQue]This shit is even dumber than that "should the NBA play games on grass?" thread.[/QUOTE]

:biggums: :facepalm

Three of the same exact threads on the front page asking why Melo should choose Chicago.

branstans melting down left and right.

[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=345059[/url]

[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=345050[/url]

:facepalm

Umm it's very simple. Because we were a number 4 seed with just team defense alone. You throw in a Derrick Rose that is even 75% of what he used to be, along with Melo's volume scoring capabilities? And they're immediately the second best team in the conference at worst, supplanting the Pacers.

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Umm it's very simple. Because we were a number 4 seed with just team defense alone. You throw in a Derrick Rose that is even 75% of what he used to be, along with Melo's volume scoring capabilities? And they're immediately the second best team in the conference at worst, supplanting the Pacers.[/QUOTE]

But Melo wants to win rings. So all of that doesnt matter

[QUOTE=WeGetRing2012]But Melo wants to win rings. So all of that doesnt matter[/QUOTE]
That team if healthy can beat ANYONE in the conference. Thus competing for championship rings. Thibs team defense wouldn't have got annihilated like Miami in these Finals. That's for sure.

Tiers would be restored to what I think most agree upon (if Melo was on the Bulls):

Tier 1

Miami (figuring if the Big 3 stuck around)

Tier 2

Chicago
Indiana

Tier 3

Washington
Brooklyn
Toronto
Atlanta
Charlotte

Tier 4

Cleveland
Boston

Tier 5

New York
Orlando
Philadelphia
Milwaukee

[QUOTE=Nash]Houston is a much better situation, Howard and [B]Harden[/B] are worth playing with.[/QUOTE]

:biggums:

still makes no sense to me, there are better options out there. Chicago just can't offer the right players. Rose is injury prone and Noah is not a star, good defender but not a star.

Is this honestly what you guys want him to leave millions for? The hope of playing with unreliable Rose and Noah?

I say stay with the Knicks. Take the max, don't leave shit on the table. Wait a year when there is cap space and then get yourself some good teammates. Pretty sure players will flock to the Knicks when free agency arrives.

Don't kid youself OP, if the Bulls get Melo you will run to ISH to create a 'Bulls: most stacked team of all-time' thread.

I smell fear in you. Mommy didn't change your diapers today?

[QUOTE=Nash]still makes no sense to me, there are better options out there. Chicago just can't offer the right players. Rose is injury prone and Noah is not a star, good defender but not a star.

Is this honestly what you guys want him to leave millions for? The hope of playing with unreliable Rose and Noah?

I say stay with the Knicks. Take the max, don't leave shit on the table. Wait a year when there is cap space and then get yourself some good teammates. Pretty sure players will flock to the Knicks when free agency arrives.[/QUOTE]
Houston could be a better location from the standpoint of playing with other stars. New York can only offer more money. If Melo wants to win a ring while still in his prime staying there makes no sense.

[QUOTE=Nash]still makes no sense to me, there are better options out there. Chicago just can't offer the right players. Rose is injury prone and Noah is not a star, good defender but not a star.

Is this honestly what you guys want him to leave millions for? The hope of playing with unreliable Rose and Noah?

I say stay with the Knicks. Take the max, don't leave shit on the table. Wait a year when there is cap space and then get yourself some good teammates. Pretty sure players will flock to the Knicks when free agency arrives.[/QUOTE]
Not sure if you watched last basketball season but they were a four seed without Rose. Adding Melo even if Rose isn't there probably gets them to the ECF. The east is so weak it's pathetic. Miami is on the decline regardless of who they sign and the Pacers are a mess with and without Lance. Washington is on the rise but adding Melo without Rose automatically puts them in the conversation for one of the best teams in the east. Please tell me what superstars the Spurs have now? None just a good team and a great coach. Similar to Detroit when they won. The Bulls are a very good team and have an excellent coach. This is the best fit for both sides for any free agent out there. It's a no brainer.

I am a Melo hater too but I can admit this would be best for him and he would do great there.

I think the fit is really good offensively too. They have good passing bigs who can help collapse the defense. Rose should command attention and is a perfect drive and kick guy for a shooter like Melo. Spacing is a bit of an issue but you have good cutter and their PFs can hit midrange jumpers. They can easily go with Melo as a small ball 4 to get another shooter on the floor.

I think Melo's life becomes a lot easier on the floor and he gets to play on a contender. The fit would be awkward in Houston. Dallas window is closed on contending for the most part and there is too much pressure to win immediately with Dirk's aging. Lakers and Knicks are 2-3 years from contending if things go well.

[QUOTE=Fiddlesticks]Melo doesn't have to play defense because Jimmy Butler will guard the other teams best Wing and Noah or Gibson will guard the best big men. As a result Melo can always guard the other team's worst offensive player.[/QUOTE]

ding ding ding

this.

The reasons are so simple for Melo:
Beat Lebron at least once in your career and win a championship and you are in talks for being a top 40 All time player. Beat him twice and you are a top 20 player without hesitation.

The system in Chicago is set up for this perfectly. Derrick Rose will be at least 90% of what he was, and Melo will still be the main scoring threat (In Houston no way is Harden giving that up).

[QUOTE=Droid101]4 seed with ZERO scoring options.

Add two really good ones (Rose/Melo) and that is probably the best in the East.
[/QUOTE]

Exactly.

[QUOTE]Rose/Jimmy/Melo/Taj/Noah

^that's ECF at least[/QUOTE]

Yup--and probably better than the Heat...

[QUOTE]You realize the West is an absolute shit storm? I mean the Spurs went to 7 games in the 1st round for christ's sake. Spurs are back next year, OKC and Clippers are scary good, Warriors, Blazers, Mavs, Grizz???[/QUOTE]

There also are potential chemistry issues in Houston, especially with Harden. The Bulls desperately need Carmelo's skill set. Even when Rose played the Bulls often would have stretches where they could not buy a field goal.

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock]. The Bulls desperately need Carmelo's skill set[/QUOTE]
So many people are mistaking the bulls need for Carmelo w Carmelo needing the bulls. The bulls roster and ownership are a terrible fit for carmelo.

[QUOTE=el gringos]So many people are mistaking the bulls need for Carmelo w Carmelo needing the bulls. The bulls roster and ownership are a terrible fit for carmelo.[/QUOTE]

This Bulls roster is better for Carmelo than the Knicks roster no matter what way you look at it.

Because he will sell a shit load of Jordan shoes in Chicago.

[QUOTE=Le Shaqtus]This Bulls roster is better for Carmelo than the Knicks roster no matter what way you look at it.[/QUOTE]
[B]that roster wont look good if they have to dump more salaries get to max money. Having an owner that is allergic to luxury tax.[/B]

[B]If you think a S & T is happening then prepare to lose Butler Taj McBuckets :lol .[/B]

Agree. Phil ain't taking anything back. I want Melo to stay in NY but if he leaves NY will still go on.

Kinda ironic that the team gutted itself to get him and how this whole deal with Chicago is unfolding.

[QUOTE=Rameek][B]that roster wont look good if they have to dump more salaries get to max money. Having an owner that is allergic to luxury tax.[/B][/QUOTE]
I believe all they have to dunp is Boozer and Dunleavy. And McDermott can take Dunleavys spot.


I just don't see a downside. Even without Rose thus team would be formidable.

The Bulls do NOT plan on S&T Taj away in a deal. That's why he was at the meeting/dinner with Melo.

Bulls can amnesty Boozer, and make Dunleavy disappear with a draft pick. *poof* I mean what if the Bulls say, hey NY here's 2 more 2nd rounders and Mike Dunleavy? Could happen. More likely they dump him to a team with cap space and attach pick(s).

[QUOTE=D-Rose]The Bulls do NOT plan on S&T Taj away in a deal. That's why he was at the meeting/dinner with Melo.

Bulls can amnesty Boozer, and make Dunleavy disappear with a draft pick. *poof* I mean what if the Bulls say, hey NY here's 2 more 2nd rounders and Mike Dunleavy? Could happen. More likely they dump him to a team with cap space and attach pick(s).[/QUOTE]
[B]Still will be short the 20 mill and not reach his max number. The only team capable of paying Melo max money is Dallas and NY.[/B]