If Hollinger can get a job as GM, why not Simmons? Sure, some of his trade scenarios are a bit out there but you can't deny the man knows his basketball inside-out. :confusedshrug:
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If Hollinger can get a job as GM, why not Simmons? Sure, some of his trade scenarios are a bit out there but you can't deny the man knows his basketball inside-out. :confusedshrug:
Of course I can deny that. Hollinger is a Rhodes scholar with an IQ in the upper 98% of America and he's basically the father of advanced metrics in basketball. Simmons is a whiny douche born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
Way better than Chuck or Shaq would be.
[QUOTE=IncarceratedBob]Of course I can deny that. Hollinger is a Rhodes scholar with an IQ in the upper 98% of America and he's basically the father of advanced metrics in basketball. Simmons is a whiny douche born with a silver spoon in his mouth.[/QUOTE]
Rhodes scholar? Google didn't turn anything up.
No he wouldn't. Classic example of a dude who loves to talk that 'ish but if he was in their position he would shit the bed.
a better question is, could he hit an open hook shot with no defense?
[QUOTE=jzek]If Hollinger can get a job as GM, why not Simmons? Sure, some of his trade scenarios are a bit out there but you can't deny the man knows his basketball inside-out. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
hollinger is way more intelligent than simmons though. simmons is just a little more intelligent than charles barkley and given how stupid charles is, that is not a great thing.
[QUOTE=SugarHill]a better question is, could he hit an open hook shot with no defense?[/QUOTE]
The world waits with baited breath on the answer to this question.
[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]hollinger is way more intelligent than simmons though. simmons is just a little more intelligent than charles barkley and given how stupid charles is, that is not a great thing.[/QUOTE]
Hollinger and Simmons are a lot closer than Chuck and Simmons. Come on now.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuP9YClyPRY[/url]
[QUOTE=SugarHill]a better question is, could he hit an open hook shot with no defense?[/QUOTE]
I don't think so. He would be getting that hobo love.
[QUOTE=SugarHill]a better question is, could he hit an open hook shot with no defense?[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOXjZD8jX-o[/url]
[QUOTE=LAZERUSS][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOXjZD8jX-o[/url][/QUOTE]
honestly not as awful as I was expecting. that hook shot gif was just a bad moment lol
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiwtXHPwGPE[/url]
[QUOTE=IncarceratedBob]Of course I can deny that. Hollinger is a Rhodes scholar with an IQ in the upper 98% of America and he's basically the father of advanced metrics in basketball. Simmons is a whiny douche born with a silver spoon in his mouth.[/QUOTE]
otoh 98% IQ isn't that high when you think bball coaches and bball players are probably at the 99.9999.
I think Holli is a ploy, an attention move. Dude looks autistic to me.
I think it's hard to be a really good GM, and you probably need some luck... like think of Steve Kerr. He got slayed for that Shaq trade. When it was kind of a power move... and not a bad idea. I think the front office is a huge thing... comes down to luck, player performance, and each part of the whole.
-Smak
[QUOTE=jzek]If Hollinger can get a job as GM, why not Simmons? Sure, some of his trade scenarios are a bit out there but you can't deny the man knows his basketball inside-out. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
I thought Chris Wallace was the GM in Memphis... when did he get fired
He could.
no he wouldn't bill is a mark
no this dude can barely put his bias aside for 2 minutes with a camera in front of him, imagine him pulling the strings for an NBA franchise..
Does he get Zach Lowe and Kirk Goldsberry to help him out?
Bill Simmons on Bill Simmons the GM.
Bill Simmons: "I think Simmons is in over his head. He started out as a basketball writer and now thinks he has the magic answers. The basketball writer turn GM experiment is over. This guy should be fired."
[QUOTE=jzek]If Hollinger can get a job as GM, why not Simmons? Sure, some of his trade scenarios are a bit out there but you can't deny the man knows his basketball inside-out. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
From 2011-13, Simmons' take on who the Cavs should draft (at the time of those drafts) with all those high picks would have resulted in this starting five heading into last season...
PG - Brandon Knight
SG - Victor Oladipo
SF - Derrick Williams
PF - Thomas Robinson
C - Who Cares
Simmons is awful when it comes to spotting/projecting talent in the draft. Suffice to say, he'd make the worst GM in NBA history.
Simmons does NOT strike me as a guy who would get the respect of his peers at all, which is important for being a GM. Didn't Magic quit his broadcasting job just to get away from him? You could also see that Durant pretty much hated the guy in an interview with him (and other players show the same expressions as well)
Not to mention his history of going IN on the league's officials would not bode well for whatever team he would be the GM of...
No, he thinks short-term and is too reactionary. Don't get me wrong, I doubt he would do a worse job than a Billy King, but...
Also Hollinger is just a VP or something, he isn't the GM.
[QUOTE=jzek]If Hollinger can get a job as GM, why not Simmons? Sure, some of his trade scenarios are a bit out there but you can't deny the man knows his basketball inside-out. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Hollinger is not a GM. Has never been.
[QUOTE=ILLsmak]otoh 98% IQ isn't that high when you think bball coaches and bball players are probably at the 99.9999. -Smak[/QUOTE]
Um, what?
[QUOTE=BlackWhiteGreen]No, he thinks short-term and is too reactionary. [/QUOTE]
Simmons does not seem like a decisive guy at all. That's part of his appeal. He plays the everday fan in his writing. He's the opposite of a Steven A. Smith know it all.
Simmons would second guess himself to death.
[QUOTE=ILLsmak]otoh 98% IQ isn't that high when you think bball coaches and bball players are probably at the [B]99.9999[/B].
I think Holli is a ploy, an attention move. Dude looks autistic to me.
I think it's hard to be a really good GM, and you probably need some luck... like think of Steve Kerr. He got slayed for that Shaq trade. When it was kind of a power move... and not a bad idea. I think the front office is a huge thing... comes down to luck, player performance, and each part of the whole.
-Smak[/QUOTE]
Not even close to 99.9999. Especially players. Many players can't even hit the top 50% mark.
Although I agree that top 2% is definitely smart, but not incredibly so.
Btw, although I'm not really in accordance with some of his opinions, for those who claim Simmons is close to Barkley: Rick Rosner, an IQ test expert, who has a history of very high scores, knows Simmons personally and has called him brilliant. This may be just praise among friends, but this isn't a guy who just gives such a label to everyone he knows.
[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]From 2011-13, Simmons' take on who the Cavs should draft (at the time of those drafts) with all those high picks would have resulted in this starting five heading into last season...
PG - Brandon Knight
SG - Victor Oladipo
SF - Derrick Williams
PF - Thomas Robinson
C - Who Cares
Simmons is awful when it comes to spotting/projecting talent in the draft. Suffice to say, he'd make the worst GM in NBA history.[/QUOTE]
Victor Oladipo over Bennett was a no brainer:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MlxHlZFNGs&ab_channel=Qasim[/url]
The rest were dreadful though.
Also Bill Simmons didn't like the Celtics-Nets trade (which turned out to be Ainge butt f*cking Billy King).
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJzx-PeG8zs&ab_channel=nygbk3&hd=1[/url]
[QUOTE=jzek]If Hollinger can get a job as GM, why not Simmons? Sure, some of his trade scenarios are a bit out there but you can't deny the man knows his basketball inside-out. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Hollinger is much better GM candidate than Simmons. He is one of the pioneers of analytics and formulated the PER statistic
Simmons is kind of a shock jock, and more similar to Skip and SAS than Hollinger. They all share in common the trait of remembering their correct predictions and forgetting the times they were wrong, relatively quickly.
[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]From 2011-13, Simmons' take on who the Cavs should draft (at the time of those drafts) with all those high picks would have resulted in this starting five heading into last season...
PG - Brandon Knight
SG - Victor Oladipo
SF - Derrick Williams
PF - Thomas Robinson
C - Who Cares
Simmons is awful when it comes to spotting/projecting talent in the draft. Suffice to say, he'd make the worst GM in NBA history.[/QUOTE]
Meh, I don't really put much weight into that. His NBA Draft evaluations are probably done after watching 3 games of each player because he's just too busy to actually scout college basketball players. I think Simmons is a pretty good strategic thinker and has a good understanding of team dynamics which would be important traits in a GM.
Not saying he would be good but I think it'd be interesting and I could def see him succeeding.
[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]Hollinger is much better GM candidate than Simmons. He is one of the pioneers of analytics and formulated the PER statistic
Simmons is kind of a shock jock, and more similar to Skip and SAS than Hollinger. They all share in common the trait of remembering their correct predictions and forgetting the times they were wrong, relatively quickly.[/QUOTE]
I don't think Simmons takes himself so seriously, ive heard him admit his mistakes plenty of time. He is a blatant homer, but he owns up to it, and so what, that is what sports is about
[QUOTE=ralph_i_el]Rhodes scholar? Google didn't turn anything up.[/QUOTE]
If you haven't noticed already, everything he says is absolutely absurd and incorrect. He's an obvious troll.
[QUOTE=ralph_i_el]Way better than Chuck or Shaq would be.[/QUOTE]
I'd take Chuck over Simmons. They'd both fail miserably (for different reasons), but at least with Chuck it would be entertaining. Simmons would be a big, bland bore.
[QUOTE=Eric Cartman]Also Bill Simmons didn't like the Celtics-Nets trade (which turned out to be Ainge butt f*cking Billy King).
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJzx-PeG8zs&ab_channel=nygbk3&hd=1[/url][/QUOTE]
he's emotional and doesn't have the ability to think ahead
that's why he would be so bad
It's unlikely that he'd be a "great" GM, as a great GM is paid way more than Simmons is currently paid. As in... someone would have already made an offer, and he would have accepted.
That said, someone else voiced my thoughts, but essentially I think he could do well. He cares about chemistry and fit and the non-measurables. His approach is likely different than most, but that wouldn't make it wrong. The results may, though.
There's more to being a GM than just basketball knowledge too. You gotta be a smooth operator, you're dealing with players, coaches, agents and other GM's. I bet he'd get hosed in more than a few deals because he doesn't have any negotiating skills and people would know he's too emotional in his thinking.