Okay, so I just pulled a number from a total dime, need rookie advice

I usually stay within people I know or see, school area.. and even then, until a year ago or so I was crazy shy..

so, particularly chatting with strangers, is new for me.

This chick is a bomb. Long, curly brown hair, big natural titties on a slim (!) body... I have her number/whats app..

when do I make the first text? It shouldnt be too soon, right? I'll go with tommorow night...

since she's a stranger, how long do I text before I propose the first meeting, or when should that be?...

The annoying thing about writing via WhatsApp is that you can see ones activity.. 'when was she online? If I go online blah blah..'

I thought about asking to meet like the weekend after this one.. obviously not asking right away though.



So ISH, first, slander me for asking for rookie advice, then bring the hot tips, cause this girl is good :rockon:

I wouldnt be to worried about when you send here a text and when you should ask here out

Just be funny (as we all know you can be) and show genuine interest in her life and wanting too see her. Dont want to be stuck chatting with here for so long that it might get weird when you first meet.

But you should lay eggs and feel how she respond as you go. Some chicks want to meet up the same night, some wants to wait and have you work for it

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater]I usually stay within people I know or see, school area.. and even then, until a year ago or so I was crazy shy..

so, particularly chatting with strangers, is new for me.

This chick is a bomb. Long, curly brown hair, big natural titties on a slim (!) body... I have her number/whats app..

[B]when do I make the first text? It shouldnt be too soon, right? I'll go with tommorow night...[/B]

since she's a stranger, how long do I text before I propose the first meeting, or when should that be?...

The annoying thing about writing via WhatsApp is that you can see ones activity.. 'when was she online? If I go online blah blah..'

I thought about asking to meet like the weekend after this one.. obviously not asking right away though.



So ISH, first, slander me for asking for rookie advice, then bring the hot tips, cause this girl is good :rockon:[/QUOTE]

From the lay king my advice would be...

Keep the texts (or whatever) short and sweet, to the point, and act like you're busy. Don't respond immediately.

Heightens the curiosity. Works every time.

How old are you/her?

right, I got a couple of go aheads, Ill bring up how I got her number, cause it was kinda funny/awkward imo..

as for keeping her waiting a bit, I dont know, the reactions are so different on that... some hate that, and like showing a bit of interest (I know, ofc theres interest, I asked for her number.. you know, like a fine line).



"how old are you/her?" Good question! Wanted to add that.. Id guess her 18/19... im 19 (damn, finally have to admit my age, this will be annoying in the future during NBA discussions 'you were 3 years old when Kobe started winning lmao! stfu!'). So keep that in mind.

Make sure she's real.

[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]Make sure she's real.[/QUOTE]

GOT IT

[QUOTE=UK2K]From the lay king my advice would be...

Keep the texts (or whatever) short and sweet, to the point, and act like you're busy. Don't respond immediately.

Heightens the curiosity. Works every time.[/QUOTE]
Depends on the girl bro! Some chicks you gotta push to get talking, some chicks love writing long ass books and want you to do the same, and many chicks want what they cant have (writing short messages and maybe not reply til the next day). but that dont seem like AW's game and most sweethearts just want a guy to be good looking, funny, nice and genuine

age and maturity level does matter tho. younger chicks is more into that hard to get bs

Hate to spoil the party, but every single time you f*ck a chick (or actually just gaze lustfully) that's not your wife, you ruin the most precious bond of all.

Keep asking Him "Rabbi Zidne Ilmi" for many years and walking that higher path Arb. This is just a test and a distraction Brother. Been in the situation and gained only a bit of pleasure and lost something much much much more valuable.

[QUOTE=kurple]Depends on the girl bro! [B]Some chicks you gotta push to get talking, some chicks love writing long ass books and want you to do the same[/B], and many chicks want what they cant have (writing short messages and maybe not reply til the next day). but that dont seem like AW's game and most sweethearts just want a guy to be good looking, funny, nice and genuine

age and maturity level does matter tho. younger chicks is more into that hard to get bs[/QUOTE]

True, gotta get a gauge on it.

But for the first two days or so, don't overdo it. It's like the same reason girls buy lingerie instead of just standing there butt ass naked... there has to be something there that keeps the mind wondering.

I'd limit the texts to maybe 5-10 or so per day unless you're getting the vibe she's the talkative type.

And ask questions...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOUg956XHpY[/url]

^^ Dumbest advice ever, but it works.

[QUOTE=UK2K]True, gotta get a gauge on it.

But for the first two days or so, don't overdo it. It's like the same reason girls buy lingerie instead of just standing there butt ass naked... there has to be something there that keeps the mind wondering.

I'd limit the texts to maybe 5-10 or so per day unless you're getting the vibe she's the talkative type.

And ask questions...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOUg956XHpY[/url]

^^ Dumbest advice ever, but it works.[/QUOTE]

Agreed

[QUOTE=JEFFERSON MONEY]Hate to spoil the party, but every single time you f*ck a chick (or actually just gaze lustfully) that's not your wife, you ruin the most precious bond of all.

Keep asking Him "Rabbi Zidne Ilmi" for many years and walking that higher path Arb. This is just a test and a distraction Brother. Been in the situation and gained only a bit of pleasure and [B]lost something much much much more valuable[/B].[/QUOTE]
Which is?

right.. okay.. gotta watch out you dont turn it into an essay of questions though.. would be good if its easy to smoothly draw transitions to other topics from a few first questions..

I hate trying to find a place for the first date.. fck that movie shit.. (its okay, but theres gotta be something else lol)

Plus, are there even any watchable movies right now?!

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater]right.. okay.. gotta watch out you dont turn it into an essay of questions though.. would be good if its easy to smoothly draw transitions to other topics from a few first questions..

[B]I hate trying to find a place for the first date.. fck that movie shit.. (its okay, but theres gotta be something else lol)[/B]

Plus, are there even any watchable movies right now?![/QUOTE]

We aren't in high school anymore.

A cafe, maybe a restaurant with live music (not rock music), a park, a fair or festival (to show off your playful side)... I always had the best luck at outdoor shopping marketplaces (like the type in NOLA where people sell art).

Go somewhere you can have conversation, but also where there's something to watch (park is great for people watching) you can use to keep the conversation going if it becomes awkward. A park in an urban environment is the best. Offer to buy her a fruit slushie or something, have some drinks (the non-alcoholic kind) and sit outside in the sun (with sunglasses) so you can check her out.

AW on a first date in a coffee shop, a police officer stop by and aks "Who parked illegally outside" AW be like:"Her!" (pointing out to his date)

[QUOTE=UK2K]We aren't in high school anymore.

A cafe, maybe a restaurant with live music (not rock music), a park, a fair or festival (to show off your playful side)... I always had the best luck at outdoor shopping marketplaces (like the type in NOLA where people sell art).

Go somewhere you can have conversation, but also where there's something to watch (park is great for people watching) you can use to keep the conversation going if it becomes awkward. A park in an urban environment is the best. Offer to buy her a fruit slushie or something, have some drinks (the non-alcoholic kind) and sit outside in the sun (with sunglasses) so you can check her out.[/QUOTE]

good stuff!

If she hits you, will you call the cops?

[QUOTE=UK2K]True, gotta get a gauge on it.

But for the first two days or so, don't overdo it. It's like the same reason girls buy lingerie instead of just standing there butt ass naked... there has to be something there that keeps the mind wondering.

I'd limit the texts to maybe 5-10 or so per day unless you're getting the vibe she's the talkative type.

And ask questions...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOUg956XHpY[/url]

^^ Dumbest advice ever, but it works.[/QUOTE]

It's not dumb, asking questions shows genuine interest. Women respond to interest and not showboating unless she's a golddigger and you have enough money.

Don't go for the sunglasses. If she's abit insecure it might make her nervous.

Dating is different in this day and age. I couldn't imagine communicating via text. But I guess it's the social norm.

My advice is don't over think it. Remember, she's a dime, a young one. Which tends to mean there's competition. Girls like a good challenge too. Be yourself with an extra touch of confidence and it will shine through. Show you can be different from other guys.

Thats ****ing creepy bro. she didnt even give you her number and you want to go right ahead and hit her up?

You say shes hot and young she probably has a ton of dudes hitting her up spitting the same lame game

Be different

Since your so focused on hitting her up, casually ask for her snapchat and then be done with it

Show her you have a cool interesting life through snapchat. If she stops viewing your stories shes not into you, if she does she is. After a few weeks start making commenta about her stories.

Be casual not creepy!!!!!

Real nikka advice right here. Remember 10/10s ARE TIRED OF THE SAME THIRSTY RANDOM GUYS DOING AND SAYING THE SAME THINGS.

[QUOTE=Overdrive]It's not dumb, asking questions shows genuine interest. Women respond to interest and not showboating unless she's a golddigger and you have enough money.

Don't go for the sunglasses. If she's abit insecure it might make her nervous.[/QUOTE]
Dumb in the sense it's basic...

But it works.

Just avoid touchy subject at first. Don't ask about her political beliefs or her job (which might suck). Ask about her goals, dreams, plans. Show that you're interested in the future.

[QUOTE=FreezingTsmoove]Thats ****ing creepy bro. [B]she didnt even give you her number and you want to go right ahead and hit her up?[/B]

You say shes hot and young she probably has a ton of dudes hitting her up spitting the same lame game

Be different

Since your so focused on hitting her up, casually ask for her snapchat and then be done with it

Show her you have a cool interesting life through snapchat. If she stops viewing your stories shes not into you, if she does she is. After a few weeks start making commenta about her stories.

Be casual not creepy!!!!!

Real nikka advice right here. Remember 10/10s ARE TIRED OF THE SAME THIRSTY RANDOM GUYS DOING AND SAYING THE SAME THINGS.[/QUOTE]

?

I went up to her, asked for her number and she gave it to me.

As for your other stuff, yea, thx, not too much breaking news but appreciate it. And no, no snapchat.

Just text and say "Hi".

How did you meet her, and how forthcoming was she in giving you her number? Was she very bubbly and gung ho about chatting and getting together some time? If so, wait a few days but not too long before you text her. If she's very effusive and eagerly texting you at a good rate from the start, she's clearly already interested and it shouldnt be a hard from there.

Was she more intrigued/reserved about it, like 'hmm..... ok' as if to say "Imma gve you my number, but only to see if you can prove yourself further." If so, wait at least a week. Then shoot her a random text to say hi and see how she's doing. Dont try to sound cool, the delayed response will already send the message youve got other things going on too. Just talk to her normally and get a feel for your convo chemistry. Also dont get too carried away on the first convo, space your texts out throughout the day and just go over simple stuff - something funny that happened to you earlier, something you have your eye on relating to the NBA... Dont rush into "lets share all our details to see if we're a couple!" mode right away. Pace yourself and relax.

If you send the last text of the day then she responds to it the next day, she prob wants to keep talking so go for it, but again just relax and dont be too eager about it. If the convo simply wraps up on the first day, give it another week then text her and go through the basic greetings but then get to the point; "Hey, do you have a few minutes to talk on the phone?" Then call her and say, "So we oughtta try to get together soon. Ive got tickets (or a gift card, or an invitation, etc) to Activity X, would you like to come along with me?"


Also, Im gonna disagree about just asking questions when youre hanging out with her. Chicks love hearing a guy talk confidently about things he knows well. If it's an obscure subject dont drone on and on about it, but spend a bit of time in it. She wants to know you have hobbies and a life and are not just a couch zombie who gets no attention from other girls. She's already probably answering basic 'interview' questions with every guy she talks to on Tinder. Be different. If you are gonna ask questions to keep the convo going, ask random funny ones that she has to think about and hasnt answered before. "If you were a planet, which one would you be..." (If she makes the standard Uranus joke, youre gold. If you make it, it's over)


Most of all, dont sound like youre trying to figure out how to interact with a chick you want to date or hookup with etc. Act like youre casually pleased to have made a new friend and just treat her like a new random friend youre hangin out and havin some laughs with. Dont think ahead. Just enjoy whatever activity youre doing, and be warm and friendly but also show a little take-charge. Not easy at your age necessarily but itll come with practice.


Good luck.

[QUOTE=UK2K]We aren't in high school anymore.

A cafe, maybe a restaurant with live music (not rock music), a park, a fair or festival (to show off your playful side)... I always had the best luck at outdoor shopping marketplaces (like the type in NOLA where people sell art).

Go somewhere you can have conversation, but also where there's something to watch (park is great for people watching) you can use to keep the conversation going if it becomes awkward. A park in an urban environment is the best. Offer to buy her a fruit slushie or something, have some drinks (the non-alcoholic kind) and sit outside in the sun (with sunglasses) so you can check her out.[/QUOTE]



Definitely this. Outdoors, and somethin that allows you to walk off any nervous energy. If you sit down at a coffee shop, it's gonna be obvious to people who can over hear you that its a "first date" and theyll start eavesdropping and youll feel uncomfortable.

Check out a farmer's market, some local festival, or just take a walk in the park with a couple of iced teas or smoothies (avoid a coffee bc if youre already nervous you dont want a lot of caffeine). Just be natural, be normal, and have fun.

Some terrible advice in this thread.

If you want her, AW, go to her father and ask for his daughter's hand. If he says yes pop the question to her in an expensive restaurant. I'm talking down on one knee and sh*t. If he says no, respect his wishes and move onto the next one.

Rinse and repeat until you get a yes. Trust me on this.

Don't come onto ISH for dating advice. That's the best advice I can give you.

[QUOTE=longtime lurker]Don't come onto ISH for dating advice. That's the best advice I can give you.[/QUOTE]

I only posted a minute before you. Maybe you missed it?

Good stuff, starface! (Although TLP's is better :crazysam: )

Most of it I kind of knew but good summary.. especially true on the 'just treat it as a fun relation' part..

It was, like, I tipped her from behind, spoke with a confident voice and looked her in the eyes while asking, she thought a sec, I added 'if you're single' she said yes and then told it to me.. I was kinda relieved when she was done and forgot I didn't ask her name yet, which she added herself then hah..

yeah wait a day. schmooze her over the weekend. make her laugh. but dont go hours ontop of hours of trivial small talk. instead, after a couple laughs, just bite the bullet and ask her if she wants to go out for a drink *insert day* and if she says yes, boom, youre good to go.

and DONT force small talk from then until the day of the hangout. leave sometime to be desired.

[QUOTE=T_L_P]Some terrible advice in this thread.

If you want her, AW, go to her father and ask for his daughter's hand. If he says yes pop the question to her in an expensive restaurant. I'm talking down on one knee and sh*t. If he says no, respect his wishes and move onto the next one.

Rinse and repeat until you get a yes. Trust me on this.[/QUOTE]

This.


Don't forget a goat though for the father, maybe even some crumbled gorgonzola

[QUOTE=FreezingTsmoove]Thats ****ing creepy bro. she didnt even give you her number and you want to go right ahead and hit her up?

You say shes hot and young she probably has a ton of dudes hitting her up spitting the same lame game

Be different

Since your so focused on hitting her up, casually ask for her snapchat and then be done with it

Show her you have a cool interesting life through snapchat. If she stops viewing your stories shes not into you, if she does she is. After a few weeks start making commenta about her stories.

Be casual not creepy!!!!!

Real nikka advice right here. Remember 10/10s ARE TIRED OF THE SAME THIRSTY RANDOM GUYS DOING AND SAYING THE SAME THINGS.[/QUOTE]what if he's like you and 98% of ISH and dont have a cool and interesting life to mystory?

[QUOTE=JohnnySic]Just text and say "Hi".[/QUOTE]
God no

[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]If she hits you, will you call the cops?[/QUOTE]

Don't worry...if he wants to go whale hunting he'll hit you up.

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]


Also, Im gonna disagree about just asking questions when youre hanging out with her. Chicks love hearing a guy talk confidently about things he knows well. [/QUOTE]
Strongly disagree in most cases. Chicks want to ventilate their everyday frustration to anyone with a pulse and don't want to listen to AW talk about basketball or some shit. Get her talking about something she is passionate about (girls they hate, stress, TV shows/hobbies, funny stories). They always want a good listener, so always agree and make sure you don't just hear what she is saying, but actually listen and come with some bullshit advise or an related story/subject

They might tolerate listening to a guy talk about the shit he care about if he's DiCaprio good looking or the thing you know/care about is $$$

But of course, be confident and give of yourself, but keep it relatively short, funny and/or interesting before you turn the convo back to her...

Embarrasing stories are usually golden

dude you need to start building a self that you think is worth it. Once you get to that level, you won't need to ask these questions. It's not about messing up. If you think this is some huge chance and you may miss it, you are selling yourself short (assuming.)

It's something that happened, an opportunity that may be good or bad, just do you. If it fails, keep doing you. If you are like omg this is the only hot girl I'll ever get, even if you go in, you are gonna be a bitch in the relationship. Girls pick up on that shit.

Just be like sup. Don't act like anything. haha. If you are thirsty af tho you might wanna curb that. I would say say sup and read and react to what she gives you. Ask questions. I am crazy tho, but I think it's fun to ask people deep questions to see how they respond. Cuz I think if people are uncomfortable or don't know, then I probably couldn't **** w/ em.

But I mean even asking about what she is going to be, what she loves, etc... I mean, in a way you can probably keep it where you ask her a question, she answers, and you answer the question as well, and repeat...

Just keep it simple. A girl gave me her number cuz she wants me to talk to her. We dunno what the next stage is. Don't think about it like chance of getting ***** graph... just talk and see what happens. If nothing happens, be civil, kind of float back, and stay open. If I regret anything when I was younger it was that I would stop relating to people too soon. You can still talk to her occasionally even if nothing happens initially, and see what happens.

Goodluk.

-Smak

[QUOTE=ILLsmak][B]dude you need to start building a self that you think is worth it. Once you get to that level, you won't need to ask these questions. It's not about messing up. If you think this is some huge chance and you may miss it, you are selling yourself short (assuming.)

It's something that happened, an opportunity that may be good or bad, just do you. If it fails, keep doing you. If you are like omg this is the only hot girl I'll ever get, even if you go in, you are gonna be a bitch in the relationship. Girls pick up on that shit. [/B]

Just be like sup. Don't act like anything. haha. If you are thirsty af tho you might wanna curb that. I would say say sup and read and react to what she gives you. Ask questions. I am crazy tho, but I think it's fun to ask people deep questions to see how they respond. Cuz I think if people are uncomfortable or don't know, then I probably couldn't **** w/ em.

But I mean even asking about what she is going to be, what she loves, etc... I mean, in a way you can probably keep it where you ask her a question, she answers, and you answer the question as well, and repeat...

Just keep it simple. A girl gave me her number cuz she wants me to talk to her. We dunno what the next stage is. Don't think about it like chance of getting ***** graph... just talk and see what happens. If nothing happens, be civil, kind of float back, and stay open. If I regret anything when I was younger it was that I would stop relating to people too soon. You can still talk to her occasionally even if nothing happens initially, and see what happens.

Goodluk.

-Smak[/QUOTE]


for sure, good stuff.. cant put her on a pedestal.. just another opportunity of many to come

[QUOTE=kurple]Strongly disagree in most cases. Chicks want to ventilate their everyday frustration to anyone with a pulse and don't want to listen to AW talk about basketball or some shit. Get her talking about something she is passionate about (girls they hate, stress, TV shows/hobbies, funny stories). They always want a good listener, so always agree and make sure you don't just hear what she is saying, but actually listen and come with some bullshit advise or an related story/subject

They might tolerate listening to a guy talk about the shit he care about if he's DiCaprio good looking or the thing you know/care about is $$$

But of course, be confident and give of yourself, but keep it relatively short, funny and/or interesting before you turn the convo back to her...

Embarrasing stories are usually golden[/QUOTE]
Don't agree with this completely. Depends on how well you speak, and how confident you appear, but girls can generally be captivated by a well-spoken guy who appears to really know what he's talking about. Sure, you need to pay lip-service to her concerns and problems, but a good looking girl will have plenty of guys willing to do this, and really wants someone who seems both older and wiser than she is (the female instinct is for someone who can guide and protect); you have to either make her laugh or perk her interest in some certain subject, or both. Combine wisdom with fearlessness and light-heartedness. But always be measured and composed, exerting complete control over yourself (i.e. don't appear nervous, don't appear hesitant, don't appear insecure, and don't be garrulous). Don't rush or force things: simply make haste slowly.


As for texting, I always found that some light mockery and occasionally ignoring them keeps the interest aroused.

Here's my one liner advice

1. Be the most interesting man in the world

2. If you spend too much time thinking about a thing, you'll never get it done

3. To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities

4. Mistakes are always forgivable, if one has the courage to admit them

5. The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering.

Simply put

The will to act

It is everything

The spirit of a lion

The best way to succeed at something, is to actively be doing that thing

The experiences will guide you to mastery

Just like in anything