Name your top 10 european players in NBA

1. Nowitzki (by faaaaaar)
2. Gasol (still not tough enough dough)
3. Okur (had a breakout season last year)
4. Kirilenko (could go up this year if he manages to stay healthy)
5. Stojakovic (still one of the best shooters)
6. Hedo (should've been higher given his all-around talent)
7. Parker (not a big fan of him, always melts down in play-offs)
8. Milicic (not that he earned this spot, but watch out for him this year)
9. Bargnani (has a lot to prove this year and he has the potential to do so)
10. Jaric (best looking guy in this top10, that's why he got this spot :roll: )

1. Dirk(Easily)
2. Gasol(Easily)
3. Kirilenko
4. Okur
5. Diaw
6. Peja
7. Parker
8. Pietrus
9. Deng
10. Hedo

Deng could move up this year. Darko, Zaza, Biedrins, Bargnani and Calderon are the top up and comers. Radman the nearest miss.

Switch Okur and AK places and your top 5 is solid (though even though you dislike him, I think most people would put Parker over Peja at this point).

Bottom five has some problems, I think Hedo is too high, Bargnani and Jaric shouldn't be on the list, and you forgot Boris Diaw and Nenad Kristic.

1. Dirk
2. Gasol
3. AK47
4. Okur
5. Parker
6. Peja
7. Diaw
8. Kristic
9. Darko
10. Hedo

Also, AK47 is reportedly spending his entire summer working on his jumpshot. If his offensive game improves, I think he could move in front of Gasol by the end of next season.

Jarič is a joke.

[U]Jarič: [B]28MPG[/B], 8/3/4[/U]

Udrih: [B]13MPG[/B] 6/1/2

Radmanovič: [B]26[/B] 10/5/2

Diaw: [B]36[/B] 13/6/7

Songalia: [B]21MPG[/B] 9/4/1

Parker: [B]34[/B] 19/3/6

Jarič is not among top 20 EU players :ohwell:

So i am going with:

1)Nowitzky
2)Diaw
3)Parker
4)Kirilenko
5)Gasol
6)Stojakovič
7)Okur
8)Turkoglu
9)Radmanovič
10)Jasikevicius

1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Pau Gasol
3. Andrei Kirlienko
4. Memhet Okur
5. Boris Diaw
6. Tony Parker
7. Peja Stojakovic
8. Nenad Kristic
9. Darko Milicic
10. Hedo Turkoglu

[QUOTE=pegasus]1. Nowitzki (by faaaaaar)
2. Gasol (still not tough enough dough)
3. Okur (had a breakout season last year)
4. Kirilenko (could go up this year if he manages to stay healthy)
5. Stojakovic (still one of the best shooters)
6. Hedo (should've been higher given his all-around talent)
7. Parker (not a big fan of him, always melts down in play-offs)
8. Milicic (not that he earned this spot, but watch out for him this year)
9. Bargnani (has a lot to prove this year and he has the potential to do so)
10. Jaric (best looking guy in this top10, that's why he got this spot :roll: )[/QUOTE]

i would take diaw over hedo, Jaric and Barganani.

[QUOTE]Jarič is a joke.[/QUOTE]
He'd be a lot less of a joke if his coach didn't hate him for no apparent reason.

Okur and Hedo are not Euro's.

1. Dirk
2. Gasol
3. AK47
4. Parker
5. Peja
6. Diaw
7. Zaza
8. Krstic
9. Jasikevicius
10. Brezec

1. Andrea Bargnani
2. Jorge Garbajosa
3. Jose Calderon
4. Rasho Nesterovic
5. Dirk Nowitzki
6. Pau Gasol
7. Andrei Kirilenko
8. Boris Diaw
9. Tony Parker
10. Peja Stojakovic

Turkish players can be considered European. Turkey is geographically part of both Asia and Europe, and Turkey is a current applicant to the European Union.

[URL="http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/tu.html"]http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/tu.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]If his offensive game improves, I think he could move in front of Gasol by the end of next season.[/QUOTE]

You arent serious are you? The only thing he might even possibly be better than Gasol at this moment is jumpshooting. He isnt improving it that much to make up for being worse at everything else. I will admit he should have been on my list though.

[QUOTE]He'd be a lot less of a joke if his coach didn't hate him for no apparent reason.[/QUOTE]

You mean other than being no good as a PG, defender or SG? He is a guy with lots of skills that dont really translate to the game.

[QUOTE=JohnnySic]Okur and Hedo are not Euro's.

1. Dirk
2. Gasol
3. AK47
4. Parker
5. Peja
6. Diaw
7. Zaza
8. Krstic
9. Jasikevicius
10. Brezec[/QUOTE]

They played for several years in Euroloeague and they are from Istanbul (european side), and their national team competes in European Basketball Championship. Is that enough ?

I'm not saying Jaric would be "good," or even starting-caliber. From watching this season, Jaric is best used as a combo guard off the bench, backing up both guard spots for short stretches at a time. If he's kept in that small role for 20-25 minutes, he can be pretty effective.

[QUOTE=WoGiTaLiA1]1. Dirk(Easily)
2. Gasol(Easily)
3. Kirilenko
4. Okur
5. Diaw
6. Peja
7. Parker
8. Pietrus
9. Deng
10. Hedo

Deng could move up this year. Darko, Zaza, Biedrins, Bargnani and Calderon are the top up and comers. Radman the nearest miss.[/QUOTE]

Deng is not european, that's why my list excluded Ginobili. Otherwise he would be no 2.

[QUOTE=Skywalker]1. Andrea Bargnani
2. Jorge Garbajosa
3. Jose Calderon
4. Rasho Nesterovic
5. Dirk Nowitzki
6. Pau Gasol
7. Andrei Kirilenko
8. Boris Diaw
9. Tony Parker
10. Peja Stojakovic[/QUOTE]

You must be spanish :roll:

Gasol: 20.4 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.91 bpg, .58 spg in 39.2 mpg, while shooting .503 FG, .250 3ptFG, and .689 FT%

Kirilenko: 15.3 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 4.3 apg, 3.19 bpg, 1.48 spg in 37.7 mpg, while shooting .460 FG, .308 3ptFG, and .699 FT%

I wouldn't say AK is worse than Gasol in everything else; Kirilenko's defense is far and away better than Pau's, their assist numbers are nearly identical, and despite Pau playing the big positions and being 3" taller, he only grabs about one more rebound per game than AK, who is pulling those boards down from the small forward (and occasionally SG) spot.

If AK can bring his shooting percentage up a bit (thereby bringing his ppg up a bit as well), they become essentially the same player in terms of offensive stats. After that, I think the fact that AK is also swatting down 1.5 more shots per game and getting an additional steal per game is enough to warrant him being placed ahead of Pau on the Euro list.

But that's just my opinion.

I totally forgot about Diaw. He was the biggest confusing for me last year. How did he get that better ? :confusedshrug:

1. Nowitzki
2. Gasol
3. Okur
4. Kirilenko
5. Diaw
6. Stojakovic
7. Hedo
8. Parker
9. Milicic
10. Bargnani

Dude, Pegasus, you're forgetting Nenad Kristic

[QUOTE=CakeorDeath]Dude, Pegasus, you're forgetting Nenad Kristic[/QUOTE]

Yeah, he is also good, I guess he deserves 10th spot more than Bargnani does. But he wasn't that good in play-offs this year. One game I remember him missing like 7-8 open shots in a row (against Miami?). But he is a hard worker, I am sure he will be better next season.

[QUOTE]You must be spanish[/QUOTE]

or a raptors fan :ohwell:

hey kobe bryant grew up in france some...he should top this list....j/k

[QUOTE]They played for several years in Euroloeague and they are from Istanbul (european side), and their national team competes in European Basketball Championship. Is that enough ?[/QUOTE]

On top of that they are being processed for membership in the EU. Being really technical to not count them.

[QUOTE]I wouldn't say AK is worse than Gasol in everything else; Kirilenko's defense is far and away better than Pau's, their assist numbers are nearly identical, and despite Pau playing the big positions and being 3" taller, he only grabs about one more rebound per game than AK, who is pulling those boards down from the small forward (and occasionally SG) spot.[/QUOTE]

My bad man, it's late and I read Krstic for whatever reason :). Gasol is better than AK, not by a huge amount, but enough that it is an easy decision to name him 2nd.

AK is not European.

[QUOTE=Sham]AK is not European.[/QUOTE]
Yes he is.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_GDP[/url]

[QUOTE=pegasus]I totally forgot about Diaw. He was the biggest confusing for me last year. How did he get that better ? :confusedshrug:

1. Nowitzki
2. Gasol
3. Okur
4. Kirilenko
5. Diaw
6. Stojakovic
7. Hedo
8. Parker
9. Milicic
10. Bargnani[/QUOTE]

Playing time and the best playmaking pg in the league will do wonders for a player, just ask the entire Phoenix Suns roster, Q-Rich and JJ.

[QUOTE=Walker]Yes he is.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_GDP[/url][/QUOTE]

Did you miss this part?

[QUOTE]This list includes countries which some consider to be Asian, and others European: the precise boundary between the two continents is disputed.[/QUOTE]

According to worldatlas.com, Russia falls under Asia.

[url]http://worldatlas.com/cntycont.htm[/url]

They're members of the European Union so it's more than fair to call their people european.

[QUOTE=Walker]They're members of the European Union so it's more than fair to call their people european.[/QUOTE]

Ya I guess it depends on how you look at it.

I guess AK is EurAsian then. He's the best EurAsian player in the league. :D

[QUOTE]1. Andrea Bargnani
2. Jorge Garbajosa
3. Jose Calderon
4. Rasho Nesterovic
5. Dirk Nowitzki
6. Pau Gasol
7. Andrei Kirilenko
8. Boris Diaw
9. Tony Parker
10. Peja Stojakovic[/QUOTE]

I hope you're joking.

[QUOTE=Sham]Ya I guess it depends on how you look at it.

I guess AK is EurAsian then. He's the best EurAsian player in the league. :D[/QUOTE]
Fair enough, I'll go along with that :cheers:

1. Nowitzki
2. Gasol
3. Turkoglu
4. Parker
5. Kirilenko
6. Ginobili
7. Calderon
8. Fernandez
9. Stojakovic
10. Biedrins

Most of you guys are vastly underrating Tony Parker on your lists.

[QUOTE=Terp in LA]Most of you guys are vastly underrating Tony Parker on your lists.[/QUOTE]
Maybe because he never really played in europe at a high level and people in this forum take that into account?
I would say.
Nowitzki
Gasol
bargnani
Calderon
Parker
Fernandez
bellineli
M.Gasol
stojakovic
biedrins

1. Nowitzki
2. Gasol
3. Peja Stojakovic
4. Parker
5. Kirilenko
6. Boris Diaw
7. Calderon
8. Fernandez
9. Stojakovic
10. Biedrins


for the other people,ginobili is

[QUOTE=vittor14]1. Nowitzki
2. Gasol
3. Peja Stojakovic
4. Parker
5. Kirilenko
6. Boris Diaw
7. Calderon
8. Fernandez
9. Stojakovic
10. Biedrins


for the other people,ginobili is

[quote=la bomba]someone else who thinks you have to be in the NBA to be in the list!! Papaloukas,Siskauskas,Smodiz, etc etc etc Siskauskas is better than Stojakovic at this moment in time.Smodiz is a far better player than Diaw.Parker and Diaw played in european and world champs and France were awfully inferior to other teams.[/quote]

You didn't even read the thread title did you?

It says name your top 10 European players in the [B][SIZE=6]NBA[/SIZE][/B].

[QUOTE=Grinder]You didn't even read the thread title did you?

It says name your top 10 European players in the [B][SIZE=6]NBA[/SIZE][/B].[/QUOTE]
apologies. there are a lot of these threads about european players.

[QUOTE=Taras Bulba]1. Nowitzki
2. Gasol
3. Turkoglu
4. Parker
5. Kirilenko
[B]6. Ginobili[/B]
7. Calderon
8. Fernandez
9. Stojakovic
10. Biedrins[/QUOTE]


I was kinda happy seeing that everyone aknowledged ginobili as NOT european... it was doing well until that post.

Ginobili is NOT from europe.

he's from Argentina.



Russia is in europe, actually. only part of it is in asia.

My ex was russian, i should know.

[QUOTE=Skywalker]1. Andrea Bargnani
2. Jorge Garbajosa
3. Jose Calderon
4. Rasho Nesterovic
5. Dirk Nowitzki
6. Pau Gasol
7. Andrei Kirilenko
8. Boris Diaw
9. Tony Parker
10. Peja Stojakovic[/QUOTE]



And you must be blind !

Please take into account most of these lists were written in 2006...