So why are ISH member's so against it? I don't understand. They guy just had an epic run at the title, and people are still in denial? What does this guy need to do to convince the haters?
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So why are ISH member's so against it? I don't understand. They guy just had an epic run at the title, and people are still in denial? What does this guy need to do to convince the haters?
ISH consensus has LeBron 3rd:confusedshrug:
This board is full of sharp and knowledgeable minds:applause:
You might be right, but one thing worries me. The poster with the self-proclaimed highest IQ on ISH does not agree. Stalkerforlife seems to think he is not even top 20? What gives? Stalker is obviously a highly intelligent individual, so his opinion matters.
First he cried and then Dray get suspended . And series turned Warriors in five to Cavs .
But people overlooking the finals for that suspend . In reality , Lebron and Kyrie were terrible for three of first four games . And Warriors were winning those three games with their bench .
Cavs were much better team on the court when Lebron and Kyrie playing great . Of course , big reason of that situation was Curry's form . And then Iggy,Bogut . Cavs were looking much better and deserved the ring , easily .
I think Lebron will be ranked fairly five years later . But for now , hype is huge .
[QUOTE=BedroomBully]You might be right, but one thing worries me. The poster with the self-proclaimed highest IQ on ISH does not agree. Stalkerforlife seems to think he is not even top 20? What gives? Stalker is obviously a highly intelligent individual, so his opinion matters.[/QUOTE]
DUMB!
[QUOTE=Hey Yo]DUMB![/QUOTE]
How so? Stalker is one of the most successful posters in here. He obviously contributes to society and is a law abiding citizen.
[QUOTE=feyki]First he cried and then Dray get suspended . And series turned Warriors in five to Cavs .[/QUOTE]
Draymond got suspended because of the accumulation of FF points. How do you guys still not understand that? FFS, it'd be easier to explain the concept of someone getting suspended, due to excess FF points, to a retarded monkey. :facepalm :facepalm
LeBron might be top 5, but he's still not above Shaq, KAJ, and, MJ, IMO.
[QUOTE=aj1987]Draymond got suspended because of the accumulation of FF points. How do you guys still not understand that? FFS, it'd be easier to explain the concept of someone getting suspended dude to excess FF point to a retarded monkey. :facepalm :facepalm
LeBron might be top 5, but he's still not above Shaq, KAJ, and, MJ, IMO.[/QUOTE]
They understand it, but choose to ignore it because it doesn't fit their agenda.
[QUOTE=feyki]First he cried and then Dray get suspended . And series turned Warriors in five to Cavs .
But people overlooking the finals for that suspend . In reality , Lebron and Kyrie were terrible for three of first four games . And Warriors were winning those three games with their bench .
Cavs were much better team on the court when Lebron and Kyrie playing great . Of course , big reason of that situation was Curry's form . And then Iggy,Bogut . Cavs were looking much better and deserved the ring , easily .
I think Lebron will be ranked fairly five years later . But for now , hype is huge .[/QUOTE]
Good thing nobody cares what you have to say. :applause:
ISH consensus= lebron top 3
lebron is ranked top 3-5 right now by most people
and 90% of those ppl has kobe over lebron. :oldlol:
People love jumping the gun. In 2010 during the afterglow of Kobe's 5th ring, everyone was ranking Kobe in the top 10 and most had him above Shaq.
It will all level off and people will come back to there senses. I was around for Olajuwon's peak in 1995. They were calling him the Best ever. Even better than MJ. Cycle repeats.
[QUOTE=feyki]First he cried and then Dray get suspended . And series turned Warriors in five to Cavs .
But people overlooking the finals for that suspend . In reality , Lebron and Kyrie were terrible for three of first four games . And Warriors were winning those three games with their bench .
Cavs were much better team on the court when Lebron and Kyrie playing great . Of course , big reason of that situation was Curry's form . And then Iggy,Bogut . Cavs were looking much better and deserved the ring , easily .
I think Lebron will be ranked fairly five years later . But for now , hype is huge .[/QUOTE]
WTF are you talking about? Learn English first before you try to learn to watch basketball.
Kobe>Bron
[QUOTE=Big164] I was around for Olajuwon's peak in 1995. They were calling him the Best ever. Even better than MJ. Cycle repeats.[/QUOTE]
You clearly weren't.
The only refrain was "he only got it because MJ wasn't around". No one EVER called Dream the Best ever. Not one.
[QUOTE=SexSymbol]Kobe>Bron[/QUOTE]
If this was '12, I'd agree with you.
[QUOTE=aj1987]If this was '12, I'd agree with you.[/QUOTE]
I think Lebron was better than Kobe in 12 as Kobe's reign as the best ended in 2010 and Dirk had that 11 on lock.
[QUOTE=SexSymbol]Kobe>Bron[/QUOTE]
4 MVP's, 3 FMVP's & superior stats > 1 MVP, 2 FMVP's & inferior stats
[QUOTE=SexSymbol]I think Lebron was better than Kobe in 12 as Kobe's reign as the best ended in 2010 and Dirk had that 11 on lock.[/QUOTE]
Kobe wasn't better than LeBron in '09 and '10. Heck, even '08 is debatable. Dirk was better than LeBron from 6 games over the entire season.
After LeBron won his 4th MVP and 2nd FMVP, he pretty much surpassed Kobe. After this title, he's a couple of ranks above Kobe.
[QUOTE=aj1987]Kobe wasn't better than LeBron in '09 and '10. Heck, even '08 is debatable. Dirk was better than LeBron from 6 games over the entire season.
After LeBron won his 4th MVP and 2nd FMVP, he pretty much surpassed Kobe. After this title, he's a couple of ranks above Kobe.[/QUOTE]
It was definitely debatable after 2013. LeBron was in the Hakeem/Kobe tier for sure. 2016 separated him from that, obviously. But prior to that, he was around 9-11 all-time.
[QUOTE=Doranku]It was definitely debatable after 2013. LeBron was in the Hakeem/Kobe tier for sure. 2016 separated him from that, obviously. But prior to that, he was around 9-11 all-time.[/QUOTE]
I've said several times that Kobe and LeBron were interchangeable and I personally had Kobe a spot higher than LeBron (depending upon my mood). After the '16 title, the discussion is pretty much done. Especially the way LeBron won it. 26 straight points (scored or assisted) in G6 and 11 points in the 4th Q of G7, including 8 straight. 6 after the Warriors took a 4 point lead. Then the block.
[QUOTE=aj1987]I've said several times that Kobe and LeBron were interchangeable and I personally had Kobe a spot higher than LeBron (depending upon my mood). After the '16 title, the discussion is pretty much done. Especially the way LeBron won it. 26 straight points (scored or assisted) in G6 and 11 points in the 4th Q of G7, including 8 straight. 6 after the Warriors took a 4 point lead. Then the block.[/QUOTE]
No arguments there. 2016 cemented LeBron's place in history above Kobe, unfortunately. But there's no arguing it. LeBron's 2016 finals against the 73-win GSW rivals any of Jordan's finals. And that's no joke
[QUOTE=RRR3]They understand it, but choose to ignore it because it doesn't fit their agenda.[/QUOTE]or they're literally that dumb. Just read though the posts on this first page of the forum :oldlol: you can't find a collection of dumber posts anywhere else on the Internet than the drivel by Kobe stans right here:oldlol:
My UPDATED top 10 list for what it's worth:
1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Russell
4. Magic
5. LeBron- Could put him in a tie with Shaq. His jump to Miami hurts him
6. Shaq
7. Bird
8. Wilt
9. Hakeem
10. Duncan/Kobe
Kobe in my opinion barely cracks this list and I'm I die hard Lakers fan. The only reason he makes it is due to titles and transcendence of the game. Wilt and Hakeem have him beat IN EVERYTHING ELSE!!! The dude was probably one of the most COMPETITIVE players in history and his will to win was second to none but HE NEVER understood the game at an ORGANIC LEVEL like everybody else in the top 10 did and that was the main culprit in him having a large inefficient impact at times. 20
The Tim Duncan position is very interesting too, he was NEVER the most dominant, NEVER transcendent and doesn't have the most impressive numbers but the dude remained deadly consistent for 15+ years, got 5 titles and was probably the BEST TEAMMATE all of the top 10.
[QUOTE=HurricaneKid]You clearly weren't.
The only refrain was "he only got it because MJ wasn't around". No one EVER called Dream the Best ever. Not one.[/QUOTE]
Mj was around cuz he was getting airness kicked by the Magic, And then Hakeem scorched the Magic.
In the summer of 95 hakeem was getting stroked twice as hard as Lebron is now.
[QUOTE=bobopenguin]and 90% of those ppl has kobe over lebron. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
most experts/nba vets rank Lebron top 5 while kobe is below top 5