in an 82 game season?
[IMG]https://s11.postimg.org/9u66ptjs3/per.png[/IMG]
Only Chamberlain and Jordan have done it, can non-Gods..human players achieve this?
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in an 82 game season?
[IMG]https://s11.postimg.org/9u66ptjs3/per.png[/IMG]
Only Chamberlain and Jordan have done it, can non-Gods..human players achieve this?
Lol @ arbitrarily cutting it off at a .70 to fit an agenda.
Means nothing if you aint win the chip that year
In the playoffs:
[IMG]http://picasion.com/resize82/bd98ec4ffa10dafd086b70c5f47a45de.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Milbuck]In the playoffs:
[IMG]http://picasion.com/resize82/bd98ec4ffa10dafd086b70c5f47a45de.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
But where:'s my alien Wilt at? :biggums:
Did you know that PER is adjusted so that the league average for that season is always set at 15.0?
So Wilt getting a 31.70 PER means he's only twice as good as the average unathletic white stiff in the 60's
LeBron getting a 31.67 PER means he's twice as good as a modern professional elite basketball player.
Now tell me, would you rather be twice as good as this guy:
[IMG]http://oi33.tinypic.com/25q817l.jpg[/IMG]
Or these guys
[IMG]https://thebasketballsociety.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/2016-nba-all-star-starters.jpg[/IMG]
:confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=Milbuck]In the playoffs:
[IMG]http://picasion.com/resize82/bd98ec4ffa10dafd086b70c5f47a45de.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
PER was designed for an 82 game season. Playoffs throws the entire equation out of wack because not everyone is playing the same amount of games, and some playoff series have different pace than others. Chris Paul, Barkley and Westbrook over Kareem is all the proof you need playoff-per is useless.
But this list
[IMG]https://s11.postimg.org/9u66ptjs3/per.png[/IMG]
^^Those are the 10 greatest statistical seasons of all time. Its one of the few times where the math agrees with the general consensus
[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]
Now tell me, would you rather be twice as good as this guy:
[IMG]http://oi33.tinypic.com/25q817l.jpg[/IMG]
Or these guys
[IMG]https://thebasketballsociety.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/2016-nba-all-star-starters.jpg[/IMG]
:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
LOL you dont have a single 7 footer in your little all star team. Chamberlain would grab all those little midgets by the Pu*$Y!
[IMG]http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-21-2015/bWYe9P.gif[/IMG]
[IMG]http://rs304.pbsrc.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/VS/Rivalry/02%20Stilt%20VS%20Alcindor/2-1.gif~c200[/IMG]
How's his playoff per and stats looking OP.
[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]Did you know that PER is adjusted so that the league average for that season is always set at 15.0?
So Wilt getting a 31.70 PER means he's only twice as good as the average unathletic white stiff in the 60's
LeBron getting a 31.67 PER means he's twice as good as a modern professional elite basketball player.
Now tell me, would you rather be twice as good as this guy:
[IMG]http://oi33.tinypic.com/25q817l.jpg[/IMG]
Or these guys
[IMG]https://thebasketballsociety.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/2016-nba-all-star-starters.jpg[/IMG]
:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
DnK spitting truth bombs :applause:
[QUOTE=BlakFrankWhite]DnK spitting truth bombs :applause:[/QUOTE]
OP is right though. There are no 7 footers in that picture. Durant and Bron are the biggest.
The problem with per is it doesn't account for defense...09 Wade > 16 Curry
[QUOTE=Smoke117]The problem with per is it doesn't account for defense...09 Wade > 16 Curry[/QUOTE]
Easily. Anyone who argued otherwise is ... :facepalm
[QUOTE=Smoke117]The problem with per is it doesn't account for defense...09 Wade > 16 Curry[/QUOTE]
No. Curry's 3 point shooting was one of the most impressive feats in NBA history.
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]No. Curry's 3 point shooting was one of the most impressive feats in NBA history.[/QUOTE]
That's all well and good...nice feat...congrats Curry...Wade was still an overall better player. A knicks fan should have a healthy respect for 09 Wade...considering how much he brutalized your team that season.
imo you need alien DNA for this
[IMG]https://i.redd.it/fk7weaq0k1bx.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Smoke117]That's all well and good...nice feat...congrats Curry...Wade was still an overall better player. A knicks fan should have a healthy respect for 09 Wade...considering how much he brutalized your team that season.[/QUOTE]
Curry brutalized the entire league to the tune of 73 wins. Not only was his PER ridiculous, but all his other advanced stats were off the charts.
16 Curry is competing with Jordan, Wilt, and Lebron for top seasons. Wade is an entire tier below.
[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]imo you need alien DNA for this
[IMG]https://i.redd.it/fk7weaq0k1bx.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Here are some other names to add to that exclusive list with Lebron:
David Blatt, Jim Boylan, Bret Brielmaier, Jared Cunningham, Matthew Dellavedova, Larry Drew, Channing Frye, Phil Handy, Joe Harris, Kyrie Irving, Richard Jefferson, Dahntay Jones, James Jones, Sasha Kaun, Kevin Love, Tyronn Lue, Jordan McRae, Derek Millender, Timofey Mozgov, James Posey, Iman Shumpert, J.R. Smith, Stephen Spiro, Tristan Thompson, Anderson Varejao, Delonte West, Mo Williams.
[SIZE="3"][I]Golden State's three best defenders: Draymond Green(team's best defender), Andrew Bogut(team's only rim protector), and Andre Iguodala(prior year's FMVP) were all out of commission due to injury or suspension under dubious circumstances. [B]The team that LeBron beat in the Finals does not accurately represent the record setting team that won 73 games during the regular season.[/B]
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[I]Cleveland dealt with more injuries than the Warriors in the Finals
Kevin Love concussion in Game 3
Kyrie foot injury Game 6
LeBron broken wrist in Game 7
[U]Therefore Cavs 3 best players dealt with major injuries, meanwhile only 1 of the Warriors 3 best players had any sort of injury.[/U] [/I]
[QUOTE=warriorfan][SIZE="3"][I]Golden State's three best defenders: Draymond Green(team's best defender), Andrew Bogut(team's only rim protector), and Andre Iguodala(prior year's FMVP) were all out of commission due to injury or suspension under dubious circumstances. [B]The team that LeBron beat in the Finals does not accurately represent the record setting team that won 73 games during the regular season.[/B]
[/I][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
Don't forget Steph Curry's heart problem.
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Curry brutalized the entire league to the tune of 73 wins. Not only was his PER ridiculous, but all his other advanced stats were off the charts.
16 Curry is competing with Jordan, Wilt, and Lebron for top seasons. Wade is an entire tier below.[/QUOTE]
How was his 3pt shooting in the Finals? I would take Wade's ability to get to the rim, post game, midrange, passing, and most importantly his massively higher IQ over Curry's 3pt shot jacking. Then there's the other side of the floor: Defense.
[QUOTE=aj1987]How was his 3pt shooting in the Finals? I would take Wade's ability to get to the rim, post game, midrange, passing, and most importantly his massively higher IQ over Curry's 3pt shot jacking. Then there's the other side of the floor: Defense.[/QUOTE]
Dck We're not talking about the Finals. The thread is about regular season.
In any case, at least 16 Curry made the Finals. 09 Wade didn't.
16 Curry had a >12 OBPM. Next highest all time is not even 10. Curry's 16 season is better than anything Wade has ever done.
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Dck We're not talking about the Finals. The thread is about regular season.[/quote]
Sure. 30/5/8/2/1 on 57% TS while being 3rd in DPOY (as a SG) >> Curry's '16 season. Literally the only thing '16 Curry has over '09 Wade is shooting.
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]In any case, at least 16 Curry made the Finals. 09 Wade didn't.[/quote]
COY, Runner up DPOY, 3 All-Stars, 1 All-NBA 2nd, 1 All-NBA 3rd, 1 All-Def First, reigning FMVP off the bench, etc.. With a team like that, Wade would've swept through the PO's.
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]16 Curry had a >12 OBPM. Next highest all time is not even 10. Curry's 16 season is better than anything Wade has ever done.[/QUOTE]
If you think losing in the Finals while having a 3-1 lead against a 57 win team, while you're on a 73 win team is better than anything Wade has ever done, then I think we're done here.
Curry is as one dimensional as they come. Replace Curry with '12 Wade and the Warriors beat the Cavs in 5 or 6.
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Dck We're not talking about the Finals. The thread is about regular season.
In any case, at least 16 Curry made the Finals. 09 Wade didn't.
16 Curry had a >12 OBPM. Next highest all time is not even 10. Curry's 16 season is better than anything Wade has ever done.[/QUOTE]
I have no problem saying Curry's season was better but lmao at you using making the Finals as an argument, especially when you factor in Curry missed half the western playoffs. You swap rosters I don't know if Curry even makes the playoffs on the '09 Heat
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]I have no problem saying Curry's season was better but lmao at you using making the Finals as an argument, especially when you factor in Curry missed half the western playoffs.[B] You swap rosters I don't know if Curry even makes the playoffs on the '09 Heat[/B][/QUOTE]
They Absolutely DO NOT. Curry's not that much better that he's going to make that much of a difference offensively to offset the huge hit the team takes losing Wade's defense. It would also be harder to score for the simple fact that the heat roster is complete garbage...especially compared to the Warriors lineup. It's a lot easier to game plan for a player when you know everyone else is stiffs. Curry also doesn't have the ability to break down any defense with his dribble penetration like Wade does...it's easier to get the ball out of a shooters hands.
[QUOTE=J Shuttlesworth]But where:'s my alien Wilt at? :biggums:[/QUOTE]
How about this...
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2014/08/21/how-putting-gary-payton-on-michael-jordan-sooner-could-have-changed-the-1996-nba-finals/[/url]
[QUOTE]Chicago won the the first three games of the series and were on the brink of a sweep, before George Karl finally made a key adjustment, allowing Payton,
[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]Did you know that PER is adjusted so that the league average for that season is always set at 15.0?
So Wilt getting a 31.70 PER means he's only twice as good as the average unathletic white stiff in the 60's
LeBron getting a 31.67 PER means he's twice as good as a modern professional elite basketball player.
Now tell me, would you rather be twice as good as this guy:
[IMG]http://oi33.tinypic.com/25q817l.jpg[/IMG]
Or these guys
[IMG]https://thebasketballsociety.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/2016-nba-all-star-starters.jpg[/IMG]
:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Of course, the Court Jester couldn't score a point when he was defended by this athletic marvel...
[IMG]http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1001/nba_g_james_gb2_576.jpg[/IMG]
And how about this 6-8 athletic marvel running away with a rpg title in the LeChoke era...
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7TnbhJr8iY[/url]
He also hung a 26-12 season just a couple of years ago, as well.
And how about this two-time MVP IN the LeShrinkage era...
[IMG]http://www.unsportsmanlike.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/steve-nash-carries-a-man-purse.jpg[/IMG]
How about LeTiny going one-on-one against a bench-player in the Finals...
[url]http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/06/lebron-james-had-the-worst-awesome-performance-in-nba-finals-history[/url]
[QUOTE]Despite LeBron
The stan of the roided up mental midget choker once again obsessing over another man's *****. Just sad at this point.
[QUOTE=aj1987]The stan of the roided up mental midget choker once again obsessing over another man's *****. Just sad at this point.[/QUOTE]
This coming from a clown who backs the biggest cry-baby and wimp in the history of the NBA. The same Court Jester who QUIT on his teams MULTIPLE times. The same crybaby who had Draymond suspended for a tap to an area in which he could not have done ANY damage. The same wimp who was carried off the court with MENSTRUAL CRAMPS in another Finals.
The same LeChoke who had his ass saved TWICE in the Finals by TEAMMATES. In game seven of the 2016 Finals, LePuke went 0-4 in the last four minutes, and was saved by a defensive stop by Kevin Love of all people, and the clinching 3pt shot by Kyrie. In a game in which LeShrink went 9-24. My god...he was one Kyrie shot away from watching Drayond hoisting the FMVP trophy (and who was clearly the best player on the floor in that game seven.)
The same LeCoward who puked all over the floor in the decisive game six of the 2013 Finals. The same LeFlop that shot 11-26 from the floor in that game, which was bad enough...but in the last four minutes of regulation, went 0-4 with three turnovers. And was trembling like a coward facing a firing squad in the last few seconds...reluctantly taking a shot that missed so badly that an out-of-position Chris "Can't Do" Bosh was able to tap it out to Ray Allen who essentially saved the series with a 3pter. And even in OT, the shaking LeChoke could only go 1-3.
The same LeWimp who was chastised in front of millions by Wade for basically hiding in the 2011 Finals. The same LeTiny who couldn't make a shot when defended by the 5-10 JJ Barea,
The same LeFoldo who was completely shut down when defended one-on-one by a bench player (holding LeSpec to 25% shooting when taking him on), and in fact was so dominated by a role player that he basically handed him the FMVP.
The same LeClown who led his team to a sweeping loss in the '07 Finals with a .356 FG%, which included a clinching one point loss performance of 10-30 from the floor, and 2-6 from the line.
And speaking of LeFlop...just go to youtube and search Lebron and flopping. Literally hours of footage of the Jester flopping like a fish out of water. Just a pathetic coward.
[B]Wilt Chamberlain's Choking Resume[/B]
[B]1973 NBA Finals[/B]
Lakers had HCA but lost the series in 5 games. Lakers lost by 4 points in Game 2 in which Wilt shot 1-9 from the freethrow line. Wilt put up 5 points in Game 3 which the Lakers lost by 4 points again. In Game 5 Wilt shot 5-14 from the freethrow line. This capped off Wilt's 5th series loss with HCA to end his career.
Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 14-38 (36.8%)
[B]1970 NBA Finals[/B]
Another Game 7 loss for the Lakers. Wilt shot 1-10 from the freethrow in a Game 1 loss. In Game 7 Wilt shot 11 freethrow attempts, only making 1.
Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 23-67 (34.3%)
Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 1-11 (9.1%)
[B]1969 NBA Finals[/B]
Lakers had HCA and were up 2-0 in the series and also 3-2 after Game 5. Lakers managed to lose the next 2 games including a 2 point loss in Game 7 in which Wilt missed 9 freethrows (4-13) while Jerry West put up 42-13-12 and won Finals MVP. Wilt shot 1-5 from the filed and missed 8 freethrows in a Game 6 loss and 1-5 from the field in Game 2. In a pivotal Game 4 Wilt shot 2-11 from the line in a 1-point loss, a win would have gave the Lakers a 3-1 series lead. Boston Celtic Sam Jones outscored Wilt Chamberlain again in Game 7, doing so in all 4 Game 7s.
Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 24-66 (36.4%)
Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 4-13 (30.8%)
[B]1968 Division Finals[/B]
Another HCA series loss for Wilt. Wilt shot 6-21 from the field and missed 15 freethrows in a Game 6 loss. In Game 7, Wilt made 4 field goals and missed 9 freethrows in a 4 point loss. Wilt was the 9th leading scorer and the 5th leading scorer on his own team in that game 7 with 14 points
Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 39-91 (42.9%)
Wilt FT shooting in Game 7: 6-15 (40.0%)
[B]1966 Division Finals[/B]
His Sixers lost to Boston in 5 games. In the elimination Game 5, Wilt missed 17 freethrows (8-25) in a 8 point loss.
Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 28-68 (41.2%)
[B]1965 Division Finals[/B]
Wilt shot 7-21 from the field in a Game 3 loss. The Sixers lost by 1 point in Game 7, Wilt missed 7 freethrows (6-13) in that game. Wilt was once again outscored by Sam Jones in a Game 7.
[B]1964 NBA Finals[/B]
His team lost the series in 5 games. Wilt shot 4-12 from the freethrow line in a Game 1 loss.
Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)
[B]1963 Regular season[/B]
Wilt led his team to a 31-49 record, a record too poor to make the playoffs.
[B]1962 Division Finals[/B]
Coming off his 50.4 ppg season, his PPG in the Playoffs dropped down by 15 points. In Game 7, Wilt was the 4th leading scorer with 22 points in a loss.
Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)
[b]1961 Division Semifinals[/b]
Wilt's Warriors had HCA and were facing the 38-41 Nationals. The result? The sub .500 Nationals swept Wilt's team 3-0. In an elimination Game 3 Wilt shot 7-14 from the freethrow line in a 3-point loss.
Wilt FT shooting for the series: 21-38 (55.3%)
[B]1960 Division Finals[/B]
After a regular season of 38.4 ppg, Wilt followed that up with a 30.5 ppg series in the Division Finals vs. Boston.
Wilt FT shooting for the series: 35-65 (53.8%)
Laz, you're trying to pick out individual games and single plays to show that LeBron is a choker, meanwhile [B][SIZE="4"]Wilt's ENTIRE Career is one big choke[/SIZE] :roll: :banana: [/B]
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]I have no problem saying Curry's season was better but lmao at you using making the Finals as an argument, especially when you factor in Curry missed half the western playoffs. You swap rosters I don't know if Curry even makes the playoffs on the '09 Heat[/QUOTE]
I wasn't trying to. It was the other poster that asked about what he did in the Finals.
2016 Curry > 2009 Wade, and it's not even close really.
[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]imo you need alien DNA for this
[IMG]https://i.redd.it/fk7weaq0k1bx.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
LMAO thought that was real for a second, but then I saw the pixels
I was gonna say if ESPN actually showed that, biggest troll image :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]I wasn't trying to. It was the other poster that asked about what he did in the Finals.
2016 Curry > 2009 Wade, and it's not even close really.[/QUOTE]
Well I disagree. Individually, I don't think Curry's season last year was THAT much better than the likes of '03 McGrady, '06 Kobe, '09 Wade, '14 Durant etc.
[QUOTE=TheWinningFam]Lol @ arbitrarily cutting it off at a .70 to fit an agenda.[/QUOTE]
This times a million
playoff aliens .. they're real :roll:
[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]Laz, you're trying to pick out individual games and single plays to show that LeBron is a choker, meanwhile [B][SIZE="4"]Wilt's ENTIRE Career is one big choke[/SIZE] :roll: :banana: [/B][/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll:
I have said it before, but LeChoke was TWO separate shots away, by two different teammates, from being "1-7." Meanwhile, Wilt was TWO separate turnovers away, by two different teammates, from being "4-6."
Furthermore...
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilt_Chamberlain[/url]
[QUOTE]In the post-season, the Lakers swept the Chicago Bulls,[93] then went on to face the Milwaukee Bucks of young superstar center and regular-season MVP Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (formerly Lew Alcindor). The matchup between Chamberlain and Abdul-Jabbar was hailed by LIFE magazine as the greatest matchup in all of sports. Chamberlain would help lead the Lakers past Abdul-Jabbar and the Bucks in six games.[93] Particularly, Chamberlain was lauded for his performance in Game 6, which the Lakers won 104
:roll: :roll:
The stan of the roided mental midget choker still melting. Calm down, Lozerus. No matter how much you cherry pick of delude yourself, you can't change FACTS.
3" WiltCHOKE getting exposed :roll: :banana: