How come LeBron never played with another MVP candidate?

None of lebrons teammates were ever Top 7 in MVP voting

And outside of 2011 none of lebrons teammates even got a single MVP vote :eek:

Wade finished top 10 in MVP voting from 2011-2013

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]Wade finished top 10 in MVP voting from 2011-2013[/QUOTE]

Sure, but top 5? Top 7 even?

Wade was a great talent and I'm glad he gave up the reigns in 2011 but was he ever top 3 or even top 5 MVP material?

Because no one will ever win an MVP by standing in the corner and waiting for a last second bailout pass

Wade wasn't a top 5 player in the league in 2009? He wasn't the best player in the Playoffs on the 2011 Heat?

[QUOTE=ImKobe]Wade wasn't a top 5 player in the league in 2009? He wasn't the best player in the Playoffs on the 2011 Heat?[/QUOTE]


Wade was #1 option in Finals, NOT ECF tho...

How about the ECSF against Boston? The team that had eliminated Bran twice in three years and made him leave Cleveland? How about first round vs. Philly?

Wade got him over the hump that was Boston and Wade was the one winning the Finals MVP until Bran sabotaged the series.

[QUOTE=ImKobe]Wade wasn't a top 5 player in the league in 2009? He wasn't the best player in the Playoffs on the 2011 Heat?[/QUOTE]
Wade was the best player in the league in 2009.

[QUOTE=ImKobe]How about the ECSF against Boston? The team that had eliminated Bran twice in three years and made him leave Cleveland? How about first round vs. Philly?

Wade got him over the hump that was Boston and Wade was the one winning the Finals MVP until Bran sabotaged the series.[/QUOTE]

LeBron won a championship without an all star teammate (2016)

Meanwhile Kobe basically missed the playoffs with an all-star starter (2013 Dwight) :roll:

[QUOTE=FKAri]Wade was the best player in the league in 2009.[/QUOTE]
Regular season, yes. But he had a disappointing series and lost to a very mediocre Hawks team

Wait why are we excluding 2011? Are we trying to meet an agenda?

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]LeBron won a championship without an all star teammate (2016)

Meanwhile Kobe basically missed the playoffs with an all-star starter (2013 Dwight) :roll:[/QUOTE]

I see you stopped mentioning Nash and Pau as allstars that year.. smart man :oldlol:

What does "basically" miss playoffs mean? Did the Lakers make it or nah?

how come l39ron went 3-9?

All of these players have received MVP votes since LeBron came into the league and they've all played with him.

I'm not including players who received votes before 2003.

Isaiah Thomas
Kevin Love
Dwyane Wade
Rajon Rondo
Derrick Rose
Deron Williams
Chris Bosh
Carlos Boozer
Antawn Jamison
Shaquille O'Neal
Shawn Marion
Ray Allen
Ben Wallace

Did I miss anyone?

Isaiah Thomas was literally top 3 MVP candidate and Bran turned him into a complete scrub :oldlol:

That LeGOAT impact!! :eek:

[QUOTE=Poetry]All of these players have received MVP votes since LeBron came into the league and they've all played with him.

I'm not including players who received votes before 2003.

Isaiah Thomas
Kevin Love
Dwyane Wade
Rajon Rondo
Derrick Rose
Deron Williams
Chris Bosh
Carlos Boozer
Antawn Jamison
Shaquille O'Neal
Shawn Marion
Ray Allen
Ben Wallace

Did I miss anyone?[/QUOTE]
So someone receiving a vote for MVP 5-10 years before playing with LeBron is relevant how? That's akin to saying the 2011 Celtics had 5 MVP candidates as starters

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]So someone receiving a vote for MVP 5-10 years before playing with LeBron is relevant how? That's akin to saying the 2011 Celtics had 5 MVP candidates as starters[/QUOTE]

I'm just providing the full picture.

The OP is being dishonest when he says LeBron never played with a player who was Top 7 in MVP voting.

[QUOTE=Poetry]I'm just providing the full picture.

[B]The OP is being dishonest[/B] when he says LeBron never played with a player who was Top 7 in MVP voting.[/QUOTE]

Balderdash!!

OP would NEVER do that to prop up a falsely manufactured agenda to protect the honor of a fraud :eek:

[QUOTE=superduper]Balderdash!!

OP would NEVER do that to prop up a falsely manufactured agenda to protect the honor of a fraud :eek:[/QUOTE]
Your right he would never prop up Mike Jordan the fraud.

[QUOTE=And1AllDay]Your right he would never prop up Mike Jordan the fraud.[/QUOTE]

Oozing insecurity. :oldlol:

Don't blame you tbh. Its only been half a year and Bran is being hard exposed.

3.5 more years to go!!

[QUOTE=superduper]Oozing insecurity. :oldlol:

Don't blame you tbh. Its only been half a year and Bran is being hard exposed.

3.5 more years to go!![/QUOTE]

Lowest Gamescore MVP too..:(

Whats next what will we find now..

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]So someone receiving a vote for MVP 5-10 years before playing with LeBron is relevant how? That's akin to saying the 2011 Celtics had 5 MVP candidates as starters[/QUOTE]

But it's relevant when we're talking about Steve Nash on the 2013 Lakers :roll:

wade was arguably the 2nd best player in the nba behind kobe in 2009

how was he not an mvp candidate... he wins finals mvp if lebron doesn't quit and pout in the corner vs the mavs

[QUOTE=kennethgriffen]wade was arguably the 2nd best player in the nba behind kobe in 2009

how was he not an mvp candidate... he wins finals mvp if lebron doesn't quit and pout in the corner vs the mavs[/QUOTE]

Wade ball :(

[QUOTE=Rico2016]Wade ball :([/QUOTE]

Imagine calling someone a GOAT who's 3rd on his team in scoring in the Finals at his absolute peak :roll: and who wets the bed in the 4th quarter in historic fashion

first 3

[IMG]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ljjn5o-FHtU/hqdefault.jpg[/IMG]

after Game 4

[IMG]http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron_james_dirk_nowitzki_2011_final_nba.jpg[/IMG]

whole series

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6h4qxZWkAALxaZ.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]So someone receiving a vote for MVP 5-10 years before playing with LeBron is relevant how? That's akin to saying the 2011 Celtics had 5 MVP candidates as starters[/QUOTE]

Same thing as saying "Warriors 5 allstars!!" too

[QUOTE=Rico2016]Wade ball :([/QUOTE]

Good thing Bron took over in '12 and '13

[QUOTE=TheCorporation]Good thing Bron took over in '12 and '13[/QUOTE]

Why did Wade have higher Gamescore in '12 and '13 than LeGOAT did in '11?

According to nba.com, Lebron had exactly zero points in the clutch in the 2011 Finals (within 5 under 5 min left):

[url]https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2010-11&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4[/url]


That's a 0.0 folks

:roll: :yaohappy:


Then he collapses in 2010 playoffs and 2018 regular season... That's 3 catastrophic performances...plus upset loss in 2009, and record defeat in 2014/2018

That's waaaaay too many chokes, record defeat and upset loss to qualify for goat

[QUOTE=3ball]According to nba.com, Lebron had exactly zero points in the clutch in the 2011 Finals (within 5 under 5 min left):

[url]https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2010-11&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4[/url]


That's a 0.0 folks

:roll: :yaohappy:


Then he collapses in 2010 playoffs and 2018 regular season... That's 3 catastrophic performances...plus upset loss in 2009, and record defeat in 2014/2018

That's waaaaay too many chokes, record defeat and upset loss to qualify for goat[/QUOTE]


Why was 4 rebounds and 2 assists enough for Jordan in 1996?

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]Why was 4 rebounds and 2 assists enough for Jordan in [B]1996[/B]?[/QUOTE]

He had 33.5 points per game. A GmSc of 21.4 at a pace of 82 (adjusted would bring it up to 24-26. His next closest teammate had a GmSc of 13.

Edit

You mean 1998.

[QUOTE=superduper]Why did Wade have higher Gamescore in '12 and '13 than LeGOAT did in '11?[/QUOTE]

This remains unanswered. :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=Phoenix]This remains unanswered. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

Well wait a minute I thought you guys said game score doesn't count? :lol::lol

Or now it does?

[QUOTE=TheCorporation]Well wait a minute I thought you guys said game score doesn't count? :lol::lol

Or now it does?[/QUOTE]

I don't know, can one of your alts in the other thread help you with this? :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=Phoenix]This remains unanswered. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

DnK avoiding it like the PLAGUE :oldlol:

I love it!!

[QUOTE=superduper]DnK avoiding it like the PLAGUE :oldlol:

I love it!![/QUOTE]

Well, he can only be logged into one account at a time.

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]Why was 4 rebounds and 2 assists enough for Jordan in 1996?[/QUOTE]
^^^ MJ was a defensive leader and carried the offense with record scoring burden, which allowed his team to keep it close so MJ's goat clutch and record 4th quarter scoring could steal games down the stretch - that's how the 98' bulls beat the shaq/duncan killers

Now why was being a net negative enough for lebron in 2013?


[INDENT][U]Net rating[/U]

[I]Jordan 98' Finals[/I]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] [url=https://stats.nba.com/player/893/advanced/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4]+8.0[/url]
[I]Lebron 13' Finals[/I]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] [url=https://stats.nba.com/player/2544/advanced/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4][B]-[/B]0.2[/url][/INDENT]


And how did he make the Finals with 22 ppg in the 14' ECF?

Hmm...

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/L8zsLprf/Screenshot-20190312-124306-Samsung-Internet.jpg[/IMG]

3ball, you're in trouble

[QUOTE=TheCorporation]Hmm...

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/L8zsLprf/Screenshot-20190312-124306-Samsung-Internet.jpg[/IMG]

3ball, you're in trouble[/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://i67.tinypic.com/331zku1.jpg[/IMG]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[QUOTE=TheCorporation]Hmm...

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/L8zsLprf/Screenshot-20190312-124306-Samsung-Internet.jpg[/IMG]

3ball, you're in trouble[/QUOTE]

Wait, when Kyrie left Boston was he top 3 in MVP voting next year?

Will Kevin Love be top 3 in MVP voting this year?