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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O-iLk1G_ng[/url]
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bout to listen to it right now
This is awesome - I'm definitely going to listen.
Mainstream media outlets furious right now.
Jake Tapper in shambles
Joe Rogan getting all the big names :eek:
Watched it... interview summary... "more government, more government, more government, less government for marijuana, more government, more government."
[QUOTE=Shogon][B]Watched it[/B]... interview summary... "more government, more government, more government, less government for marijuana, more government, more government."[/QUOTE]
No you didn't.
[QUOTE=Shogon]Watched it... interview summary... "more government, more government, more government, less government for marijuana, more government, more government."[/QUOTE]
We do need more government...
unbridled capitalism and its lobbying have destroyed this country.
theyre the reason behind the ongoing economic collapse (s) and only way to reign them in is competent gubmint.
[QUOTE=Prometheus]No you didn't.[/QUOTE]
Yes, yes I did. That's exactly what he said. I watched the whole thing, lmao.
It really wasn't a traditional Joe Rogan interview... it was more so a platform for Bernie to speak almost uninterrupted for slightly over an hour.
[QUOTE=tpols]We do need more government...
unbridled capitalism and its lobbying have destroyed this country.
theyre the reason behind the ongoing economic collapse (s) and only way to reign them in is competent gubmint.[/QUOTE]
Every single model government becomes corrupt. All of them.
Capitalism is fine.
Big government is not fine.
Couple things to add... the run up that caused the housing crisis was a result of government. And when it finally imploded, the government bailed those people out.
Capitalism didn't fail. Government did.
[QUOTE=Shogon]Every single model government becomes corrupt. All of them.
Capitalism is fine.
Big government is not fine.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=tpols]F[COLOR="Black"]ag[/COLOR].[/QUOTE]
NO U.
[QUOTE=tpols]We do need more government...
unbridled capitalism and its lobbying have destroyed this country.
theyre the reason behind the ongoing economic collapse (s) and only way to reign them in is competent gubmint.[/QUOTE]
**** that
more government= less freedom
[QUOTE=CelticBaller]**** that
more government= less freedom[/QUOTE]
youre retarded tho
*you're
[QUOTE=Shogon]Every single model government becomes corrupt. All of them.
[B]Capitalism is fine.[/B]
Big government is not fine.
Couple things to add... the run up that caused the housing crisis was a result of government. And when it finally imploded, the government bailed those people out.
Capitalism didn't fail. Government did.[/QUOTE]
I don't expect you to tell us what you actually do for a living, but I'm willing to bet that you work for a large corporation and make a lot of money, personally.
Good for you.
[QUOTE=Prometheus]I don't expect you to tell us what you actually do for a living, but I'm willing to bet that you work for a large corporation and make a lot of money, personally.
Good for you.[/QUOTE]
Wrong on both counts. I do not chase money. Not that I couldn't if I were so inclined. Zero desire to do that.
Also, large corporations... not all of them, but most of them tend to bleed your soul. Been there, done that. No thanks.
Capitalism is perfectly fine because life isn't fair and no amount of government meddling will ever change that fact.
All governments become corrupt.
The biggest problem with the U.S. is that even most of our poor are fat and happy and so we allow politicians and corporations to do whatever they want. That's not capitalism failing. It's us failing.
[QUOTE=Vino24]Joe Rogan getting all the big names :eek:[/QUOTE]
I'm still wondering when the hell is the Kanye episode happening
Wow another landslive victorty
Libs stay racking up W's this week
Crazy
[QUOTE=Shogon]Capitalism is perfectly fine because life isn't fair and no amount of government meddling will ever change that fact.
All governments become corrupt.
The biggest problem with the U.S. is that even most of our poor are fat and happy and so we allow politicians and corporations to do whatever they want.[/QUOTE]
No.
The reason we let politicians and corporations do whatever they (really just the corporations) want is because they own our major news outlets, and the vast majority of our people are too stupid to realize it. Our friends and family mistake outright propaganda for actual journalism.
The income inequality in our nation dwarfs that of every other developed country. Every policy change that is made benefits the richest of the rich, and public opinion on issues is a literal non-factor in terms of our legislation.
We are a puppet state for profit-prisons, big pharma, big oil, and weapons manufacturers. And you're a supposedly high IQ person out here talking about capitalism is fine. You're a tool.
Something is off with that Joe Rogan guy.I get a weird feeling that he's in to fking trannies or he's a murderer or something....cant explain it
Thats a weird dude
[QUOTE=Im so nba'd out]Something is off with that Joe Rogan guy.I get a weird feeling that he's in to fking trannies or he's a murderer or something....cant explain it
Thats a weird dude[/QUOTE]
lol, wtf.
[QUOTE=Prometheus]No.
The reason we let politicians and corporations do whatever they (really just the corporations) want is because they own our major news outlets, and the vast majority of our people are too stupid to realize it. Our friends and family mistake outright propaganda for actual journalism.
The income inequality in our nation dwarfs that of every other developed country. Every policy change that is made benefits the richest of the rich, and public opinion on issues is a literal non-factor in terms of our legislation.
We are a puppet state for profit-prisons, big pharma, big oil, and weapons manufacturers. And you're a supposedly high IQ person out here talking about capitalism is fine. You're a tool.[/QUOTE]
Most people are too stupid, that’s true. But the people that are aware are too fat and happy.
Capitalism isn’t perfect but it’s the best we’ve got.
Name one type of government that doesn’t end up corrupt. I’ll wait.
You think Kobe is better than LeBron and you dare bring up IQ to me? Pathetic. “LOL THE MEDIA FOOLED YOU INTO THINKING LEBRON IS BETTER HAHA DUMBO!!” Riiight.
[QUOTE=Prometheus]I don't expect you to tell us what you actually do for a living, but I'm willing to bet that you work for a large corporation and make a lot of money, personally.
Good for you.[/QUOTE]
Yeah **** him for working his ass off and not living off the government :applause:
[QUOTE=Prometheus]No.
The reason we let politicians and corporations do whatever they (really just the corporations) want is because they own our major news outlets, and the vast majority of our people are too stupid to realize it. Our friends and family mistake outright propaganda for actual journalism.
The income inequality in our nation dwarfs that of every other developed country. Every policy change that is made benefits the richest of the rich, and public opinion on issues is a literal non-factor in terms of our legislation.
We are a puppet state for profit-prisons, big pharma, big oil, and weapons manufacturers. And you're a supposedly high IQ person out here talking about capitalism is fine. You're a tool.[/QUOTE]
God bless, you're a quick student for someone that professes to not have paid much attention throughout his life.
Now, the real challenge. How do you teach the yokels that they are being snookered?
Same thing happened last time, Bernie looks like the man for the job, his own party will fu*k him over :lol :facepalm
[QUOTE=Loco 50]God bless, you're a quick student for someone that professes to not have paid much attention throughout his life.
Now, the real challenge. How do you teach the yokels that they are being snookered?[/QUOTE]
No, the real challenge is figuring out what to do after you convince everyone that they are being juiced...Because voting in our two party system isn
bernie got cucked by two fat bitches .. sorry go home buddy .. he'd probably give to every blm demand .. luckily he has no shot
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[QUOTE=warriorfan]No, the real challenge is figuring out what to do after you convince everyone that they are being juiced...Because voting in our two party system isn
[QUOTE=Shogon]Most people are too stupid, that’s true. But the people that are aware are too fat and happy.[/QUOTE]
They are too fat, yes. Consider that a win for the healthcare industry.
If they were too happy, would we really have[B] 50 million[/B]+ people on psychiatric drugs?
Another win for healthcare companies.
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Capitalism isn’t perfect but it’s the best we’ve got.
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Well... capitalism is better than communism. That I can agree with... easily. But capitalism and socialism are not antonyms. We are already living in a nation that is both capitalist and socialist. These are not mutually exclusive terms. No sensible person is talking about eradicating capitalism... but you have to be virtually blind to think it doesn't need its checks and balances.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, and believe that this point is a semantic misunderstanding.
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Name one type of government that doesn’t end up corrupt. I’ll wait.
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I don't think I can do that. Corruption is not something that exists (or doesn't) in absolute terms. To different extents, it exists in any government... at least any government which at least attempts to present itself as democracy (after all, there is no corruption in a fascist state, or an autocracy, since they generate no illusions of serving the interests of the people, and there is nothing to 'corrupt').
What I can do... [I]easily[/I]... is rattle off the names of a few nations which are [I]less[/I] corrupt than ours... inarguably so...
Iceland, Norway, France, the UK, Australia, Germany, New Zealand, Canada...
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You think Kobe is better than LeBron and you dare bring up IQ to me? Pathetic. “LOL THE MEDIA FOOLED YOU INTO THINKING LEBRON IS BETTER HAHA DUMBO!!” Riiight.[/QUOTE]
I think the fact that you would even think to use the Kobe/LeBron debate in this context says a lot more about IQ than does my position within that debate.
[QUOTE=Prometheus]They are too fat, yes. Consider that a win for the healthcare industry.
If they were too happy, would we really have[B] 50 million[/B]+ people on psychiatric drugs?
Another win for healthcare companies.
Well... capitalism is better than communism. That I can agree with... easily. But capitalism and socialism are not antonyms. We are already living in a nation that is both capitalist and socialist. These are not mutually exclusive terms. No sensible person is talking about eradicating capitalism... but you have to be virtually blind to think it doesn't need its checks and balances.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, and believe that this point is a semantic misunderstanding.
I don't think I can do that. Corruption is not something that exists (or doesn't) in absolute terms. To different extents, it exists in any government... at least any government which at least attempts to present itself as democracy (after all, there is no corruption in a fascist state, or an autocracy, since they generate no illusions of serving the interests of the people, and there is nothing to 'corrupt').
What I can do... [I]easily[/I]... is rattle off the names of a few nations which are [I]less[/I] corrupt than ours... inarguably so...
Iceland, Norway, France, the UK, Australia, Germany, New Zealand, Canada...
:confusedshrug:
I think the fact that you would even think to use the Kobe/LeBron debate in this context says a lot more about IQ than does my position within that debate.[/QUOTE]
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:applause: Knew you were a smart guy. You especially nailed some of the problems with healthcare to a f'n tee. You give me hope, sir.
[QUOTE=Prometheus]I think the fact that you would even think to use the Kobe/LeBron debate in this context says a lot more about IQ than does my position within that debate.[/QUOTE]
Low IQ.
[QUOTE=Shogon]Low IQ.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Prometheus]F[COLOR="Black"]ag.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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sanders' biggest flaw is that he lacks the ability to explain himself well. he just sounds like the same, tired old screaming man from 2016. warren on the other hand is great at painting that same picture, and putting things into a perspective that anyone can understand and relate to... and that's pretty big when you're speaking to low information voters (most of america).
sanders' and warren's policies and ideologies obviously revolve entirely around wealth redistribution. taxing the super rich (a little) harder, and redistributing that wealth to the lower and middle class through things like health care, free public college, etc. as well as taking on the drug and insurance companies' greed. so how radical is that really? is that indeed socialism? how many of u here r a part of the 1%, and if (since) you're not, what gets u up in arms about it? because it's not 'american'?
sanders and warren are essentially the new dealers of the modern era. even seventy years ago, i don't think he would have been seen as the radical guy from mars that everyone makes him out to be. people are just too stubborn, caught in their tribalism, or set in their ways to look outside of their bubble and say, 'why not give it a shot'?
this country has been on it's way out for a while now imo.
"Look back over the past, with its changing empires that rose and fell, and you can foresee the future, too."
-Marcus Aurelius
[QUOTE=diamenz]sanders' biggest flaw is that he lacks the ability to explain himself well. he just sounds like the same, tired old screaming man from 2016. warren on the other hand is great at painting that same picture, and putting things into a perspective that anyone can understand and relate to... and that's pretty big when you're speaking to low information voters (most of america).
sanders' and warren's policies and ideologies obviously revolve entirely around wealth redistribution. taxing the super rich (a little) harder, and redistributing that wealth to the lower and middle class through things like health care, free public college, etc. as well as taking on the drug and insurance companies' greed. so how radical is that really? is that indeed socialism? how many of u here r a part of the 1%, and if (since) you're not, what gets u up in arms about it? because it's not 'american'?
sanders and warren are essentially the new dealers of the modern era. even seventy years ago, i don't think he would have been seen as the radical guy from mars that everyone makes him out to be. people are just too stubborn, caught in their tribalism, or set in their ways to look outside of their bubble and say, 'why not give it a shot'?
this country has been on it's way out for a while now imo.
"Look back over the past, with its changing empires that rose and fell, and you can foresee the future, too."
-Marcus Aurelius[/QUOTE]
The problem is these politicians acts like they want to tax the big ultra rich companies but end up screwing the small business owners or the growing small business
[QUOTE=CelticBaller]The problem is these politicians acts like they want to tax the big ultra rich companies but end up screwing the small business owners or the growing small business[/QUOTE]
This
[QUOTE=CelticBaller]The problem is these politicians acts like they want to tax the big ultra rich companies but end up screwing the small business owners or the growing small business[/QUOTE]
This is a generalization (or a scare tactic, if you were a shill) and has nothing to do with any policies that Bernie is fighting for.
A tax on Wall Street speculation isn't going to hurt small business owners. Forcing Amazon to pay taxes isn't going to hurt small business owners.
Universal healthcare would very obviously [I]help[/I] small business owners.
Bernie Sanders should not be lumped in with "these politicians" without making any mention of his particular policies.