Who had some of the worst stat padding years, putting up 28 ppg and under .500 in the wins collum? Sorry butTrigga Trae comes to mind.
He is at 30 ppg and under .500
The only other guy I know who did this is MJ in 87
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Who had some of the worst stat padding years, putting up 28 ppg and under .500 in the wins collum? Sorry butTrigga Trae comes to mind.
He is at 30 ppg and under .500
The only other guy I know who did this is MJ in 87
Bradley Beal just put up back to back games of 50+
Everything is padded these days.
[QUOTE=E_Stamkos;13935922]Bradley Beal just put up back to back games of 50+
Everything is padded these days.[/QUOTE]
He isnt at 28 ppg tho is he?
Edit: Holy shit he is
Beal is up to 30 a game. :lol
why is the cutoff 28 ppg?
could it be because Lebron averaged 27 ppg but was under .500 last year?
and what about averaging 30/10/10 but getting beat by record amount... twice?
or could it be because Lebron averaged 27/7/7 in 2005, but missed the playoffs despite having the East all-star center on his team?..
Lebron's stats were actually better in 2005 when he was lottery than 2007 when he made the Finals - the difference was that the 2007 squad added a 22/5/5 all-defender and the COY - this explains the jump from 9 seed to 2 seed despite Lebron's weaker production.
[QUOTE=3ball;13935931]why is the cutoff 28 ppg?
could it be because Lebron averaged 27 ppg but was under .500 last year?
and what about averaging 30/10/10 but getting beat by record amount... twice?
or could it be because Lebron averaged 27/7/7 in 2005, but missed the playoffs despite having the East all-star center on his team?.. Lebron's stats were actually better in 2005 when he was lottery than 2007 when he made the Finals - the difference was that the 2007 squad added a 22/5/5 all-defender and the COY - this explains the jump from 9 seed to 2 seed despite Lebron's weaker production.[/QUOTE]
Is MJ's 37 ppg with 40 wins in 87 the worst stat pad we've ever seen?
has anyone ever lost when their SIDEKICK gets 27 and 29 ppg, while they themselves get 30+ ppg?
[QUOTE=3ball;13935931]why is the cutoff 28 ppg?
could it be because Lebron averaged 27 ppg but was under .500 last year?
and what about averaging 30/10/10 but getting beat by record amount... twice?
or could it be because Lebron averaged 27/7/7 in 2005, but missed the playoffs despite having the East all-star center on his team?..
Lebron's stats were actually better in 2005 when he was lottery than 2007 when he made the Finals - the difference was that the 2007 squad added a 22/5/5 all-defender and the COY - this explains the jump from 9 seed to 2 seed despite Lebron's weaker production.[/QUOTE]
SpaceJam2 stay looking like a bumbling fool :oldlol:
[QUOTE=3ball;13935934]And has anyone ever lost with their SIDEKICK gets 27 and 29 ppg, while they themselves get 30+ ppg[/QUOTE]
Dont be triggered.
MJ has 2 years of 28 ppg and under .500
Empty stats
And he has one year of 35 ppg and under .500
Worst stat pad ever?
[QUOTE=SpaceJam2;13935937]Dont be triggered.
MJ has 2 years of 28 ppg and under .500
Empty stats
And he has one year of 35 ppg and under .500
Worst stat pad ever?[/QUOTE]
no, worst cast ever
otoh, Lebron has fantastic casts (29 ppg sidekicks) but loses by record amount... that's the goat stat-pad..
[QUOTE=3ball;13935938]no, worst cast ever
otoh, Lebron has fantastic casts (29 ppg sidekicks) but loses by record amount... that's the goat stat-pad..[/QUOTE]
How do you average 37 and win 40 games? :lol :lol
GOAT stat padder :lol
No Pip, no Chip. Didn't Pip come in 88? I see...lol
So basically MJ was Bradley Beal in 87 before he got the PIPPEN STIMULUS
[QUOTE=SpaceJam2;13935947]
How do you average 37 and win 40 games? :lol :lol
GOAT stat padder
[/quote]
no, worst cast ever
but once he got a cast, he never lost, whereas Lebron lost many times with super-teams... lol
and MJ's "cast" consisted of a 18 ppg sidekick and the #7 team defense - MJ 3-peated with this - no one has done more with less
[QUOTE=SpaceJam2;13935947]
No Pip, no Chip. Didn't Pip come in 88? I see...lol
[/QUOTE]
Lebron never had a sidekick as bad as 88' or 89' Pip - Pip cost MJ rings from 88-90' by sucking so bad
[QUOTE=SpaceJam2;13935947]
So basically [B]MJ was Bradley Beal[/B] in 87 before he got the PIPPEN STIMULUS
[/QUOTE]
I know you looked up at the heavens when you wrote that.. hoping there aren't actually basketball gods to strike you down by lightning for saying such things.. :facepalm:
Clint capela does a great job guarding embiid in the post so the hawks will be better in the future.
[QUOTE=warriorfan;13935929][IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/JhVBJdHk/280-F87-C4-99-C8-45-C8-AE9-F-A5-C1-F419-BB78.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Classic wheels:lol virgin f@ggot
[QUOTE=E_Stamkos;13935922]Bradley Beal just put up back to back games of 50+
Everything is padded these days.[/QUOTE]
Beal has no choice though, the rest of his team is hot trash
Damn :lol
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[QUOTE=Phoenix;13936086]Remember folks, according to INSIDEHOOPS you can notify mods of any accounts that are constantly shitposting. Because of course, otherwise they wouldn't know.....[/QUOTE]
Admin is great here
Mods/Admin for the most part tell the difference between legitimate users reporting forum breaking guidelines vs your typical soiled diaper Jordan fans (like yourself) who only sprint to the teacher in tears in threads where someone teases your boy band
Therein lies the problem, your outrage isn't true to the good nature of this forum or discussion. It's just a product of "ah shit, Phoenix is butthurt in another MJ thread again" :oldlol: *delete*, next, yawn...
[QUOTE=Phoenix;13936086]Remember folks, according to INSIDEHOOPS you can notify mods of any accounts that are constantly shitposting. Because of course, otherwise they wouldn't know.....[/QUOTE]
GEEZE
Please tell me where the mean facts hurt you? How is Trae young not stat-padding this year? He has no impact, 30 points per game and 17 wins? How many players have scored over 28 per game and can't even win 41 games a year?
Trae in 20
Beal in 20
Jordan in 85
Jordan in 87
Who else?
What a coincidence that the same loser(s) would be the ones to take issue with my post? :oldlol: I dont recall mentioning any names, but I'm glad you're more than willing to wear the shoe. :cheers:
[QUOTE=Gus Hemmingway;13936145]Admin is great here
Mods/Admin for the most part tell the difference between legitimate users reporting forum breaking guidelines vs your typical soiled diaper Jordan fans (like yourself) who only sprint to the teacher in tears in threads where someone teases your boy band
[/QUOTE]
Would that be why your retarded ass got banned a few weeks ago? You must have shown Uncle Jeff a pic of you deepthoating a shotgun and he got soft.
[QUOTE=SpaceJam2;13936151]GEEZE
Please tell me where the mean facts hurt you? How is Trae young not stat-padding this year? He has no impact, 30 points per game and 17 wins? How many players have scored over 28 per game and can't even win 41 games a year?
Trae in 20
Beal in 20
Jordan in 85
Jordan in 87
Who else?[/QUOTE]
Those guys have no all-star teammates, all-defenders, good coaching, or good team defense
whereas 05-07' Lebron had Zydrunas/Hughes, the future COY and a top 5 defense... 09/10 Lebron had Mo/Jamison, the #3 defense, and the COY
No comparison
[QUOTE=Celtics 1825;13936032]Beal has no choice though, the rest of his team is hot trash[/QUOTE]
That isn't really true, at least on offense. They have a lot of guys who can score. Before getting hit by injuries they were actually one of the league leaders in offensive efficiency. They have 8 guys averaging double figures.
Beal has just been on a chuckfest lately. This month he is averaging 26.7 shots per game. It is getting ridiculous.
Early in the year their offense was fun to watch. They had great ball movement and with so many guys shooting threes and attacking the rim they were lighting teams up. They aren't fun to watch now.
[QUOTE=SpaceJam2;13935919]Who had some of the worst stat padding years, putting up 28 ppg and under .500 in the wins collum? Sorry butTrigga Trae comes to mind.
He is at 30 ppg and under .500
The only other guy I know who did this is MJ in 87[/QUOTE]
Name ONE point guard who ever averaged 25ppg and shot over 50% from the field.
Just one.
[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo;13936233]Name ONE point guard who ever averaged 25ppg and shot over 50% from the field.
Just one.[/QUOTE]
Steph in 2016, though I've always seen him as a combo guard.
[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo;13936233]Name ONE point guard who ever averaged 25ppg and shot over 50% from the field.
Just one.[/QUOTE]
He's not going to be able to because he's trolling.
His definition of stat padding is so wrong, any star in a small market with a bad team is a stat padder.
How many small market players from 90s and 00s would fall under this criteria?
[QUOTE=3ball;13936213]Those guys have no all-star teammates, all-defenders, good coaching, or good team defense
whereas 05-07' Lebron had Zydrunas/Hughes, the future COY and a top 5 defense... 09/10 Lebron had Mo/Jamison, the #3 defense, and the COY
No comparison[/QUOTE]
Master stat padder Club
28 ppg, under 41 wins
2020 Trae
2020 Beal
1985 Jordan
1987 Jordan *
Who else?
*dont worry, Pippen came in 1988 and MJ broke free from the below .500 club
[QUOTE=rawimpact;13936243]He's not going to be able to because he's trolling.
His definition of stat padding is so wrong, any star in a small market with a bad team is a stat padder.
How many small market players from 90s and 00s would fall under this criteria?[/QUOTE]
28 ppg and under 40 wins?! List them please
Only MJ shows up twice
1985 and 1987
[QUOTE=SpaceJam2;13936515]Master stat padder Club
28 ppg, under 41 wins
2020 Trae
2020 Beal
1985 Jordan
1987 Jordan *
Who else?
*dont worry, Pippen came in 1988 and MJ broke free from the below .500 club[/QUOTE]
Guys?
[B][size=1][url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1989-sum:per_game]Jordan 85-89'[/url]... 32.6 ppg.. 1.9 oreb.. 4.3 dreb.. 5.9 apg.. 2.8 spg.. 1.2 bpg.. 58.9 ts.. 29.6 PER
[url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2006-2010-sum:per_game]Lebron 06-10'[/url]... 29.4 ppg.. 1.2 oreb.. 6.1 dreb.. 7.1 apg.. 1.7 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 57.6 ts.. 28.8 PER[/size][/B]
MJ had better stats, but a weaker cast caused him to win less, and a stronger conference too
i.e. MJ's 33/8/8 yielded 47 wins in 89', while Lebron's 28/8/7 yielded 66 wins in 09'.. so lebron's stronger cast and weak conference allowed more wins despite less stats.
Jordan had a completely accolade-less cast from 85-89', while Lebron played with a 2-time all-star center (Zydrunas), and other all-stars like Mo and Jamison, and all-defenders Hughes and Varejao, along with the COY and top team defenses - MJ had [U]none[/U] of this, so his superior stats yielded less wins.. lebron had a good cast relative to the conference, so he got high seeds every year from 06-10'
facts gonna facts
Master stat padder Club
28 ppg, under 41 wins
2020 Trae
2020 Beal
1985 Jordan
1987 Jordan *
Who else?
[QUOTE=SpaceJam2;13936515]Master stat padder Club
28 ppg, under 41 wins
2020 Trae
2020 Beal
1985 Jordan
1987 Jordan *
Who else?
*dont worry, Pippen came in 1988 and MJ broke free from the below .500 club[/QUOTE]
You're trolling, right? But don't forget T-Mac. Kareem also had one. Adrian Dantley. I think Alex English??? King?
I'm shocked that Beal is averaging like 30 ppg this season.
[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo;13936233]Name ONE point guard who ever averaged 25ppg and shot over 50% from the field.
Just one.[/QUOTE] Jerry West did it.
[QUOTE=Micku;13937370]You're trolling, right? But don't forget T-Mac. Kareem also had one. Adrian Dantley. I think Alex English??? King?
I'm shocked that Beal is averaging like 30 ppg this season.[/QUOTE]
Weird list MJ is a part of.
He should pray to Pippen every day.
[QUOTE=SpaceJam2;13937390]Weird list MJ is a part of.
He should pray to Pippen every day.[/QUOTE]
[I]if MJ should pray to someone that he averaged 10-30 more than for every series of their careers while doubling his usage, then what should lebron do to his equal-scoring and usage teammates, aka Wade, Kyrie, and AD?
it's a testament to MJ's greatness that he could 3-peat with an 18 ppg sidekick and the #7 team defense - only MJ won so much with so little[/I]
btw, remember that only MJ had [U]four[/U] #1 team offenses... With that in mind, I have a question for you - given that MJ had goat offenses with Rodman (4 on 5 offensively) and weak-scoring Pippen, wouldn't he have a juggernaut #1 offense with today's version of David Robinson (AD)?.. and wouldn't the juggernaut offense/superior brand of ball movement make these Lakers the perennial favorite that Lebron's brand could never achieve (but was always beaten by)?.. Like, everyone says that lebron is always the underdog in the Finals, but that's an indictment on him for failing to play the superior brand that would yield perennial favorites - he should have dominant teams like the spurs/warriors, but his brand prevents it... mj would have the perennial favorite with AD just like he had with the lesser Pippen - they'd threaten 70 wins FOR SURE
[QUOTE=3ball;13937409][I]if MJ should pray to someone that he averaged 10-30 more than for every series of their careers while doubling his usage, then what should lebron do to his equal-scoring and usage teammates, aka Wade, Kyrie, and AD?
it's a testament to MJ's greatness that he could 3-peat with an 18 ppg sidekick and the #7 team defense - only MJ won so much with so little[/I]
btw, remember that only MJ had [U]four[/U] #1 team offenses... With that in mind, I have a question for you - given that MJ had goat offenses with Rodman (4 on 5 offensively) and weak-scoring Pippen, wouldn't he have a juggernaut #1 offense with today's version of David Robinson (AD)?.. and wouldn't the juggernaut offense/superior brand of ball movement make these Lakers the perennial favorite that Lebron's brand could never achieve (but was always beaten by)?.. Like, everyone says that lebron is always the underdog in the Finals, but that's an indictment on him for failing to play the superior brand that would yield perennial favorites - he should have dominant teams like the spurs/warriors, but his brand prevents it... mj would have the perennial favorite with AD just like he had with the lesser Pippen - they'd threaten 70 wins FOR SURE[/QUOTE]
MJ played 5 seasons without Pippen
He won ONE playoff game
in FIVE years
WITHOUT Pippen
Thoughts?
he puts up .272% of his team PPG while the team's winning percentage is at .283%
thread started as if mistakes and negative stats aren't recorded
[QUOTE=SpaceJam2;13937822]MJ played 5 seasons without Pippen
He won ONE playoff game
in FIVE years
WITHOUT Pippen
Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
Guys?