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sorry if this is a bit repetitive guys - I'm just a huge fan of this photo. its one of my favorite sports images of all-time.
absolute cream of the crop right here, not a single scrub capable of sneaking into an all-time stat like this:
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Now show how many each has against 73-win teams.
Bonus points for erasing a 3-1 deficit and leading both teams in all statistical categories.
Lebron missed the Playoffs...
[QUOTE=MaxPlayer;13951372]Now show how many each has against 73-win teams.
Bonus points for erasing a 3-1 deficit and leading both teams in all statistical categories.[/QUOTE]
is something like that even possible?
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4th finals mvp in the coronavirus era.
[QUOTE=Lebron23;13951386]4th finals mvp in the coronavirus era.[/QUOTE]
Would be the GOAT chip considering the circumstances
[QUOTE=ImKobe;13951375]Lebron missed the Playoffs...[/QUOTE]
Kobe missed the PO's during his PEAK.
The only player to win MVP's in 3 different decades :applause:
Big. Game. James
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Get ready to welcome KD to this club next year when he wins FMVP
[QUOTE=Manny98;13951476]Get ready to welcome KD to this club next year when he wins FMVP[/QUOTE]
sure buddy.
I'll be the first to embrace KD if he pulls this off:
[QUOTE=MaxPlayer;13951372]Now show how many each has against 73-win teams.
Bonus points for erasing a 3-1 deficit and leading both teams in all statistical categories.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LAmbruh;13951475]The only player to win MVP's in 3 different decades
Big. Game. James
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[B][I][U][SIZE=7]LeThicc[/SIZE][/U][/I][/B]
[QUOTE=red1;13951528][IMG]https://shallowgraves.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ric-flair-woo.gif[/IMG]
[IMG]https://shallowgraves.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ric-flair-woo.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
#1 in PPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, plus/minus, clutch, Finals record (team ceiling), modern era winning
the goat standard
[QUOTE=FireDavidKahn;13951532][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETQWrV_X0AYCvgp?format=jpg&name=900x900[/IMG]
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[B][I][U][SIZE=7]LeThicc[/SIZE][/U][/I][/B][/QUOTE]
stack. those. wins.
[QUOTE=red1;13951538]stack. those. wins.[/QUOTE]
Elimination Game James:bowdown::pimp:
[QUOTE=FireDavidKahn;13951540]Elimination Game James:bowdown::pimp:[/QUOTE]
haters aint got shit - scrawny just like 3ball
[QUOTE=FireDavidKahn;13951540]Elimination Game James:bowdown::pimp:[/QUOTE]
Lebron fans believe it's better to win in 7 games than 5 games
Lebron fans think it's better to come from behind than dominate
Lebron fans think it's better to be the underdog and complain about facing the odds, rather than the perennial favorite that never loses
3ball is a virgin who sleeps at his mothers house
[QUOTE=red1;13951561]3ball is a virgin who sleeps at his mothers house[/QUOTE]
:roll:
[QUOTE=red1;13951561]3ball is a virgin who sleeps at his mothers house[/QUOTE]
Down the stretch of tight games (last 5 within 5), Lebron shot 41% on 3.0 attempts.per game for his career, compared to 47% on 3.6 attempts for 97' and 98' MJ (20% more attempts on better efficiency)
[QUOTE=3ball;13951566]Down the stretch of tight games (last 5 within 5), Lebron shot 41% on 3.0 attempts.per game for his career, compared to 47% on 3.6 attempts for 97' and 98' MJ (20% more attempts on better efficiency)[/QUOTE]
dude. we've been through this a million times.
jordan is LITERALLY 1-9 without pippen.
[QUOTE=red1;13951567]dude. we've been through this a million times.
jordan is LITERALLY 1-9 without pippen.[/QUOTE]
Losing in the 8 vs 1 matchup means nothing
Lebron's low seeds were simply lucky to avoid the playoffs in 04', 05' and 19' where they would've faced the same fate.
Instead, Lebron only made the playoffs high seeds/good teams and easy 1st round matchups.. ultimately, his high seeds were beaten by record amount, worse than MJ's 8 seeds
[QUOTE=3ball;13951575]Losing in the 8 vs 1 matchup means nothing
Lebron's low seeds were simply lucky to avoid the playoffs in 04', 05' and 19' where they would've faced the same fate.
Instead, Lebron only made the playoffs high seeds/good teams and easy 1st round matchups[/QUOTE]
Meanwhile JOrdan making the play offs with 30 wins:roll:
[QUOTE=FireDavidKahn;13951577]Meanwhile JOrdan making the play offs with 30 wins:roll:[/QUOTE]
That's irrelevant to the point that Jordan's low seeds were unlucky to make the playoffs as 8 seeds with impossible odds, while Lebron's low seeds avoided the playoffs in 04/05/19 so he avoided the impossible 1st Rd matchups...
Regardless, Lebron's high seeds were beaten by record amount, worse than MJ's 8 seeds
[QUOTE=3ball;13951575]Losing in the 8 vs 1 matchup means nothing
Lebron's low seeds were simply lucky to avoid the playoffs in 04', 05' and 19' where they would've faced the same fate.
Instead, Lebron only made the playoffs high seeds/good teams and easy 1st round matchups.. ultimately, his high seeds were beaten by record amount, worse than MJ's 8 seeds[/QUOTE]
dude. everything you've ever posted has been irrational. zero logic and common sense, just embarrassingly goofy fanboy shit. you outright trashed every single one of mj's teammates - compared rodman and grant to varejao and mo williams to pippen :roll:
you're a f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]cking joke. so I'll troll you too - MJ never won shit without phil jackson and pippen - phil won 5 rings without MJ. pippen carried the team without MJ, NO problem. :roll:
[QUOTE=red1;13951583]dude. everything you've ever posted has been irrational. zero logic and common sense, just embarrassingly goofy fanboy shit. you outright trashed every single one of mj's teammates - compared rodman and grant to varejao and mo williams to pippen :roll:
you're a f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]cking joke. so I'll troll you too - MJ never won shit without phil jackson and pippen - phil won 5 rings without MJ. pippen carried the team without MJ, NO problem. :roll:[/QUOTE]
MJ or his clone was needed for all 11 rings
You forget that MJ nearly made the Finals in 89' with a 6 seed [u]before[/u] Phil, who inherited a star already on the cusp of the Finals - MJ was the goat candidate in 1990 and Phil was the 1st time nobody coach.. So MJ "made" Phil just like he was making Collins (nearly made Finals in 89' with 6 seed).
Get your facts right so you won't misperceive and overrate Phil like everyone normally does
[QUOTE=3ball;13951589]
Get your facts right so you won't misperceive and overrate Phil like everyone normally does[/QUOTE] Phil jackson is overrated?!? What? The man has 11 rings, coach of the year, and has been selected to the allstar game 4X.
[QUOTE=3ball;13951589]MJ or his clone was needed for all 11 rings
You forget that MJ nearly made the Finals in 89' with a 6 seed [u]before[/u] Phil, who inherited a star already on the cusp of the Finals - MJ was the goat candidate in 1990 and Phil was the 1st time nobody coach.. So MJ "made" Phil just like he was making Collins (nearly made Finals in 89' with 6 seed).
Get your facts right so you won't misperceive and overrate Phil like everyone normally does[/QUOTE]
Loser. just an absolute disgusting loser.
no pip. no chip bitch.
[QUOTE=Turbo Slayer;13951596]Phil jackson is overrated?!? What? The man has 11 rings, coach of the year, and has been selected to the allstar game 4X.[/QUOTE]
MJ or his clone was needed for all 11 rings
You forget that MJ nearly made the Finals with a 6 seed [U]before[/U] Phil, so Phil inherited a star already on the cusp of the Finals - [I]indeed, it was MJ who was the goat candidate in 1990 and Phil was the 1st time nobody coach[/I].. So MJ "made" Phil just like he was making Collins (aka nearly made Finals in 89' with 6 seed).
mj's record without the GOAT perimeter defender and arguable GOAT second option:
1-9.
[QUOTE=3ball;13951599]MJ or his clone was needed for all 11 rings
You forget that MJ nearly made the Finals in 89' with a 6 seed before Phil, so Phil inherited a star already on the cusp of the Finals - [I]indeed, it was MJ who was the [B]goat candidate in 1990[/B] and Phil was the 1st time nobody coach[/I].. So MJ "made" Phil just like he was making Collins (aka nearly made Finals in 89' with 6 seed).[/QUOTE] I agree with everything you said. [SIZE=6][B]:D [/B][/SIZE]
But theres one thing I dont understand... How MJ was considered the goat in 1990? Elaborate more.
[QUOTE=Turbo Slayer;13951604]I agree with everything you said. [SIZE=6][B]:D [/B][/SIZE]
But theres one thing I dont understand... How MJ was considered the goat in 1990? Elaborate more.[/QUOTE]
He was a goat [I]candidate[/I]
He wasn't considered the actual goat until he could "elevate his teammates" like Bird and Magic did - that was the running narrative at the time... No one cared that his cast was worse - he was expected to "elevate" those shit teammates like Bird and Magic did and damn sure wasn't allowed to team-hop onto a super-team
So people bashed MJ and his scoring until he won a ring, even though all his teammates (Woodridge, Pippen, Grant, BJ) grew by leaps and bounds next to him.. And once they'd grown sufficiently, they won (despite only 1 all-star teammate) and never lost again when mj played a full season
[QUOTE=3ball;13951610]He was a goat [I]candidate[/I]
He wasn't considered the actual goat until he could "elevate his teammates" like Bird and Magic did - that was the running narrative at the time... No one cared that his cast was worse - he was expected to "elevate" those shit teammates like Bird and Magic did and damn sure wasn't allowed to team-hop onto a super-team
So people bashed MJ and his scoring until he won a ring, even though all his teammates (Woodridge, Pippen, Grant, BJ) grew by leaps and bounds next to him.. And once they'd grown sufficiently, they won (despite only 1 all-star teammate) and never lost again when mj played a full season[/QUOTE] cool shit. Thumbs up! :banana:
[QUOTE=red1;13951369]sorry if this is a bit repetitive guys - I'm just a huge fan of this photo. its one of my favorite sports images of all-time.
absolute cream of the crop right here, not a single scrub capable of sneaking into an all-time stat like this:
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClXdOhhWkAA3H_f.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Just wanted to say this photo needs to have Kareem take the place of Magic as KAJ won the finals MVP in 71 and 85 and in 80 after Magic's great game 6, Kareem had the most votes for this award, but because he was not present the voters were asked to change their votes so Magic would win the award. This is covered in the book "Kareem" pages 140 - 141 and tells what happened from the perspective of one of the voters.
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goat
[QUOTE=red1;13951602]mj's record without the GOAT perimeter defender and arguable GOAT second option:
1-9.[/QUOTE]
I love how people use this stat as if it's supposed to mean anything now that everyone knows that this only accounted for three playoff series, those being MJ's first three in the league lol.
[QUOTE=Cyrus334;13952620]I love how people use this stat as if it's supposed to mean anything now that everyone knows that this only accounted for three playoff series, those being MJ's first three in the league lol.[/QUOTE]
...and spread out over a 3 year period. Most of these kids seem to like being idiots.
[QUOTE=Cyrus334;13952620]I love how people use this stat as if it's supposed to mean anything now that everyone knows that this only accounted for three playoff series, those being MJ's first three in the league lol.[/QUOTE]
You can tell the low IQs pretty quickly.
The fact that they EXPECT a rookie Jordan to beat a prime Bird just shows me they think Jordan's the GOAT :oldlol:
[QUOTE=superduper;13952713]You can tell the low IQs pretty quickly.
The fact that they EXPECT a rookie Jordan to beat a prime Bird just shows me they think Jordan's the GOAT :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
His career has a divison
With Pip
No Pip
Want to see the #s?