That's why he struggled in the playoffs and nba finals.and his style of play is totally unplayable in today's nba.
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That's why he struggled in the playoffs and nba finals.and his style of play is totally unplayable in today's nba.
Wilt > Bran.
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14269528]That's why he struggled in the playoffs and nba finals.and his style of play is totally unplayable in today's nba.[/QUOTE]
He could finish and protect the paint. How would he be unplayable?
Wilt is the definition of a playoffs choker. For a guy his size he struggled offensively while being guarded by 6'9.5" Bill Russell.
Might be a better version of Gobert. Joel Embiid is going to drain several 3 pointers while being guarded by Wilt.
[IMG]https://www.basketballnetwork.net/app/uploads/2018/11/f4534618a2659d42cea994144fc66927.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14269535]Might be a better version of Gobert. Joel Embiid is going to drain several 3 pointers while being guarded by Wilt.[/QUOTE]
Embiid hasn't shot good against Gobert so he'd have his hands full with a better version
[URL]https://stathead.com/basketball/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id1=goberru01&player_id2=embiijo01#stats[/URL]
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14269535]Might be a better version of Gobert. Joel Embiid is going to drain several 3 pointers while being guarded by Wilt.[/QUOTE]
Unplayable in todays game and yet a better version of gobert?
[QUOTE=Gudo;14269543]Unplayable in todays game and yet a better version of gobert?[/QUOTE]
another worthless stiff
He was probably a more athletic version of Shaq but with different moves in the post.
You are an idiot Lebron 23.
Wilt in his first 7 seasons in the league, Wilt led the league in scoring every year, he played in 52 playoff games, but only played in 1 NBA Finals series. In his final 7 seasons in the league, Wilt never led the league in scoring, he played in 108 playoff games and played in 5 NBA Finals series. If the award existed at the time, Wilt would have been named the 1967 Finals MVP, and he was named the 1972 Finals MVP. Most of his critics love to bring up this out of context argument (e.g., 7.6 point difference between his regular season and playoff scoring average) in order to protect their sacred (e.g., Jordan, James, Abdul-Jabbar) cows.
I would bet the farm that none of his critics knows that in his 52 playoff games when he was a scorer Chamberlain averaged 32.8 points, 26.6 rebounds, and shot 50.5 from the field. No player in NBA history had a playoff series averaging 32.9 points and 26 rebounds, yet Wilt averaged that over the span of 10 playoff series.
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14269528]That's why he struggled in the playoffs and nba finals.and his style of play is totally unplayable in today's nba.[/QUOTE]
Bruh are u simple or something? You think if wilt came up today he'd have the same game?
[QUOTE=Bronbron23;14269549]Bruh are u simple or something? You think if wilt came up today he'd have the same game?[/QUOTE]
16 PPG Lakers in 80 games/53%
25 PPG 76ers in 44 Games/54%
*34.7 PPG Warrior's 36games/50%
Wilt Warriors playoff average is still the league record among all 30 franchise leaders in Playoff PPG, which includes Jordan Bulls.
Wilt played in 29 postseason series, the majority of them played from 1966-73, and Wilt's teams went 18-11 in them. Anyone wondering about Wilt's drop-off in career average points from the regular season to the playoffs (30.1 to 22.5) should know that when Wilt was the main shot taker on his team he put up 39.6 season PPG and 32.9 playoffs PPG. in his first seven years.
[QUOTE=Reggie43;14269547]He was probably a more athletic version of Shaq but with different moves in the post.[/QUOTE]
Wilt never had Shaqs bulk.
[QUOTE=Smoke117;14269557]Wilt never had Shaqs bulk.[/QUOTE]
Youre probably right. What I meant was they would have similar physical dominance over their competition.
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14269545]another worthless stiff[/QUOTE]
Wilt is arguably the greatest 7 foot defensive center in NBA history. The late, great Harvey Pollack did keep track of blocked shots when Wilt played for the Warriors/76ers, and despite the 76ers in the 1980s later discarding a good number of those statistics that Pollack kept in his notebooks he estimated that the Big Dipper averaged 8-10 blocks a game during his prime years. In Chamberlain's last 2 seasons with the 76ers and his 5 years with Lakers, sportswriters (e.g., UPI, AP, Sixer/Laker beat writers) were being more diligent about keeping track of blocked shots. This was especially the case in the playoffs. Examples include...
1967 PLAYOFFS 21.7 PTS 29.1 REBS 9.0 ASTS 9.2 BLKS FG% 57.9
1968 PLAYOFFS 23.7 PTS 24.7 REBS 6.5 ASTS 9.7 BLKS FG% 53.4
1969 PLAYOFFS 13.9 PTS 24.7 REBS 2.6 ASTS 8.5 BLKS FG% 54.5
1971 PLAYOFFS 18.3 PTS 20.2 REBS 4.4 ASTS 6.0 BLKS FG% 45.5
1973 PLAYOFFS 10.4 PTS 22.5 REBS 3.5 ASTS 6.9 BLKS FG% 55.2
And also
I listed his blocked shot average for the 1967 playoffs (e.g., 15 games 9.2 blocked shots) in a prior post, but here are his statistics from each playoff series.
1967 EASTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS: PHILADELPHIA 76ERS VS.
CINCINNATI ROYALS
GAME 1 41 PTS 22 REBS 5 ASTS 9 BLKS
GAME 2 37 PTS 27 REBS 11 ASTS 6 BLKS
GAME 3 16 PTS 30 REBS 19 ASTS 14 BLKS
GAME 4 18 PTS 27 REBS 9 ASTS 12 BLKS
CONFERENCE PLAYOFF AVERAGE 28.0 PTS 26.5 REBS 11.0 ASTS 10.2 BLKS
1967 EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS: PHILADELPHIA 76ERS VS.
BOSTON CELTICS
GAME 1 24 PTS 32 REBS 13 ASTS 12 BLKS
GAME 2 15 PTS 29 REBS 5 ASTS 5 BLKS
GAME 3 20 PTS 41 REBS 9 ASTS 5 BLKS
GAME 4 20 PTS 22 REBS 10 ASTS 8 BLKS
GAME 5 29 PTS 36 REBS 13 ASTS 7 BLKS
CONFERENCE FINAL AVERAGE 21.6 PTS 32.0 REBS 10.0 ASTS 7.4 BLKS
1967 NBA FINALS: PHILADELPHIA 76ERS VS. SAN FRANCISCO WARRIORS
GAME 1 16 PTS 33 REBS 10 ASTS 9 BLKS
GAME 2 10 PTS 38 REBS 10 ASTS 10 BLKS
GAME 3 26 PTS 26 REBS 5 ASTS 8 BLKS
GAME 4 10 PTS 27 REBS 8 ASTS 15 BLKS
GAME 5 20 PTS 24 REBS 4 ASTS 13 BLKS
GAME 6 24 PTS 23 REBS 4 ASTS 6 BLKS
NBA FINALS AVERAGE 17.6 PTS 28.5 REBS 6.8 ASTS 10.1 BLKS
1967 Playoffs 15 games 21.7 PTS 29.1 REBS 9.0 ASTS 9.2 BLKS
Here is what I have in regards to Wilt's other blocked shot totals in the playoffs in other years besides 1967
1962 East Conference Playoffs Warriors VS Nationals
GAME 2 28 PTS 26 REBS 4 ASTS 12 BLKS
GAME 5 56 PTS 35 REBS 12 BLKS
1962 East Conference Finals Warriors VS Celtics
Game 7 22 PTS 22 REBS 14 BLKS
1964 West Conference Finals Warriors VS Hawks
GAME 2 28 PTS 27 REBS 5 ASTS 15 BLKS
GAME 7 39 PTS 30 REBS 6 ASTS 12 BLKS
1965 East Conference Playoffs 76ers VS Royals
GAME 2 30 PTS 15 REBS 10 ASTS 12 BLKS
GAME 3 17 PTS 15 REBS 6 ASTS 9 BLKS
GAME 4 38 PTS 26 REBS 5 ASTS 11 BLKS
1965 East Conference Finals 76ers VS Celtics
GAME 1 33 PTS 31 REBS 11 BLKS
GAME 2 30 PTS 39 REBS 8 ASTS 8 BLKS
1967 PLAYOFFS 15 Games 21.7 PTS 29.1 REBS 9.0 ASTS 9.2 BLKS
1968 East Conference Playoffs 76ers VS Knicks
GAME 1 37 PTS 29 REBS 7 ASTS 10 BLKS
GAME 2 24 PTS 17 REBS 8 ASTS 12 BLKS
GAME 3 18 PTS 24 REBS 8 ASTS 11 BLKS
GAME 4 23 PTS 27 REBS 5 ASTS 6 BLKS
GAME 5 26 PTS 21 REBS 7 ASTS 14 BLKS
GAME 6 25 PTS 27 REBS 3 ASTS 10 BLKS
CONFERENCE PLAYOFF AVERAGE 25.5 PTS 24.1 REBS 6.3 ASTS 10.5 BLKS
1968 PLAYOFFS 13 Games 23.7 PTS 24.7 REBS 6.5 ASTS 9.7 BLKS
1969 PLAYOFFS 18 Games 13.9 PTS 24.7 REBS 2.6 ASTS 8.5 BLKS
1970 Western Conference Playoffs Lakers VS Suns
GAME 5 36 PTS 14 REBS 2 ASTS 10 BLKS
GAME 6 12 PTS 26 REBS 11 ASTS 12 BLKS
GAME 7 30 PTS 27 REBS 6 ASTS 11 BLKS
1970 Western Conference Finals Lakers VS Hawks
GAME 1 16 PTS 17 REBS 8 ASTS 11 BLKS
GAME 2 24 PTS 24 REBS 4 ASTS 7 BLKS
GAME 4 11 PTS 21 REBS 3 ASTS 10 BLKS
1971 PLAYOFFS 12 Games 18.3 PTS 20.2 REBS 4.4 ASTS 6.0 BLKS
1972 Western Conference Playoffs Lakers VS Bulls
GAME 3 16 PTS 14 REBS 9 BLKS
1972 Western Conference Finals Lakers VS Bucks
GAME 3 7 PTS 14 REBS 4 ASTS 10 BLKS
GAME 5 12 PTS 26 REBS 6 ASTS 11 BLKS
GAME 6 20 PTS 24 REBS 9 BLKS
1972 NBA FINALS LAKERS VS. KNICKS
GAME 1 12 PTS 19 REBS 0 BLKS
GAME 2 23 PTS 24 REBS 4 ASTS 8 BLKS
GAME 3 26 PTS 20 REBS 9 BLKS
GAME 4 12 PTS 24 REBS 12 BLKS
GAME 5 24 PTS 29 REBS 4 ASTS 8 BLKS
NBA FINALS AVERAGE 19.4 PTS 23.3 REBS 7.4 BLKS
1973 PLAYOFFS 17 Games 10.4 PTS 22.5 REBS 3.5 ASTS 6.9 BLKS
[QUOTE=coastalmarker99;14269553]16 PPG Lakers in 80 games/53%
25 PPG 76ers in 44 Games/54%
*34.7 PPG Warrior's 36games/50%
Wilt Warriors playoff average is still the league record among all 30 franchise leaders in Playoff PPG, which includes Jordan Bulls.
Wilt played in 29 postseason series, the majority of them played from 1966-73, and Wilt's teams went 18-11 in them. Anyone wondering about Wilt's drop-off in career average points from the regular season to the playoffs (30.1 to 22.5) should know that when Wilt was the main shot taker on his team he put up 39.6 season PPG and 32.9 playoffs PPG. in his first seven years.[/QUOTE]
Yeah forsure wilt was nice with it. I agree with op though. I don't think the offensive game he dominanted with back then would be as effective today. Defensively he'd still be a beast.
My point was if wilt came up today he'd obviously play differently and learn adopt all the skills that today's bigs have. His game would be different but he'd still dominate
[QUOTE=Bronbron23;14269570]Yeah forsure wilt was nice with it. I agree with op though. I don't think the offensive game he dominanted with back then would be as effective today. Defensively he'd still be a beast.
My point was if wilt came up today he'd obviously play differently and learn adopt all the skills that today's bigs have. His game would be different but he'd still dominate[/QUOTE]
Wilt would dominate offensively today all you to have look at is how the refs of his era treated him compared to the stars of the today
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-XTPVBOCLw&t=29s[/url]
If you let Wilt the strongest player of all time use his full physically in the post along with running over people in transition then he would still be as unstoppable nowadays just as he was back in the 1960s
How do you know he was limitedoffensively if you never saw him play? He averaged 50, he could score. Career 22.5 playoff ppg with 4 seasons over 30.
Every player in history is limited offensively.
Amusing thread considering you are a Bran stan. He doesn't exactly have the most limitless offensive repertoire himself *smirk*
Wilt attained his stats at the detriment to the teams offense hence why he didn't start winning until he took a lesser role on offense
Wilt is the biggest black hole in NBA history and it isn't even close. Plus his stats are heavily inflated due to playing 48 minutes a game and the high pace of that era
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14269610]How do you know he was limitedoffensively if you never saw him play? He averaged 50, he could score. Career 22.5 playoff ppg with 4 seasons over 30.[/QUOTE]
22.5 ppg playing 48 minutes at a extremely high pace with mediocre efficiency as he couldn't shoot the basketball to a
save his life?
That's absolutely horrific :oldlol:
Thanks for proving that It is the most overrated player in NBA history
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14269532]Wilt is the definition of a playoffs choker. For a guy his size he struggled offensively while being guarded by 6'9.5" Bill Russell.[/QUOTE]
Yep people blame Wilt not having enough help but the reality is Wilt had plenty of opportunities to beat Russell but choked when it mattered
[QUOTE=Thenameless;14269708]Every player in history is limited offensively.[/QUOTE]
Wilts high usage low efficiency playstyle limits the ceiling of his teams offense hence lack of success when it matters
[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/FsT10Fqd/Wilts-Correlation-PPG-and-Team-ORtg-2.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Smoke117;14269530]Wilt > Bran.[/QUOTE]
this
[QUOTE=zeerghit;14269894]this[/QUOTE]
i'm thinking a certain % of Dwight Howard-ism was in his soul and mind.
He couldn't win a big game unless his team was 30 points better than the opponent, lost tons of games when his team was only 25 points better from 1968 to 1973.
He seemed a nice guy, lacked the killer instinct of Russell and other greats of the game; seemed to wonder "what am i doing out here, is this really purposeful?" a lot, which isn't a good thing
had his head wandering all over the place, decided to show everyone up by going for the assist lead in the league and gave up several easy scoring chances just to beef his dime total, quit on D when he had 4 or 5 fouls because he didn't want to foul out of a game...
[QUOTE=Manny98;14269893]Wilts high usage low efficiency playstyle limits the ceiling of his teams offense hence lack of success when it matters
[/QUOTE]
Michael Jordan has a career FG% of 0.497.
Wilt Chamberlain has a career FG% of 0.540.
They changed the rules to not allow Wilt to dunk his free throws, otherwise he would have the highest FT% of all time.
Keep trying.
Guys like Zion and Giannis live in the paint. 67% of Giannis' FGA in his career come from below 10 ft, and 96% of Zion's FGA come from below 10 ft as well.
But Wilt can't produce in this era?
[QUOTE=HoopsNY;14270517]Guys like Zion and Giannis live in the paint. 67% of Giannis' FGA in his career come from below 10 ft, and 96% of Zion's FGA come from below 10 ft as well.
But Wilt can't produce in this era?[/QUOTE]
Thank you and he forgets to mention that Wilt would be allowed to get away with murder in this Nba as they actually allow players to play physically offensively compared to the '60s where it was a foul every time if you lowered your shoulder into a player.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-XTPVBOCLw&t=32s[/url]
I don't even care to rattle off stats. The only thing "limited" about his game is that he was a terror in the low post that couldn't be stopped. Far far far from any guard-helped backdoor specialist big like Gobert which I'm seeing from some extremely ignorant comparisons being made.
I've been doing a film study of his half-court set offensive moves for about 3 years now. Still not ready for completion but it will be one day. When it's complete threads like this will look just plain stupid. He had probably 300 post scoring and passing variations from either block going middle or baseline which is impossible to defend and it could end up being more than that. If God himself played center he could not guard Wilt Chamberlain based on the impossibility of predicting so many moves alone let alone the physical nightmare of a mistmatch against the greatest athlete in NBA history. You could dump him the ball and he'd be a GOAT tier problem for the opposing team in his time, today or tomorrow. Playoffs and Finals included. This guy dropped 45 on the Knicks in the Finals on a bum knee 9 months after major knee surgery that ended many players careers back then and he did it all on 2 point field goal attempts. The reason his numbers appear so skewed for his career are - he only played 1 series of 5 NBA Finals games as a scorer (attempting 24 shots per game in those 5 games) and averaged 29ppg that finals (averaged 33 vs those Celtics that regular season). The rest of his NBA Finals career he literally took 11.7 shots per game for all the other series combined. Because he was older and chose to play a Russell like role on all those teams as they often had good shooters or other ball dominant superstars much like the Celtics of that time.
How many moves does Rudy Gobert have in the post? Hell I'd wager Wilt has more moves in the post than all but maybe Kareem or Hakeem - but he was even more dominant than either of them if he caught it in the painted area and he was more likely to catch it that deep due to his strength - he's probably the most likely to score of any player in NBA history along with Shaq if it's a deep catch inside the paint and I'm not talking backdoor plays I'm talking possessions where he was guarded before the entry pass even hit his hand. Only guys like Kareem or Hakeem appear like they MIGHT have more total moves due to a little more flexibility outside the paint and even that I'm not actually so sure about because the number of moves Wilt seemed to have grows by 1 or 2 literally every time new footage is found.
Best way to limit Wilt offensively was to lock him out of the gym.
[video=youtube;1vCb-i8XpaQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vCb-i8XpaQ[/video]
There's a reason he was trying to lead the league in assists in the 70's and fool people. Like lebron. Mental midgets. Jack of all trades masters of none.
Especially how they talk about themselves. Insecurity, always.
[QUOTE=LAL;14270568]There's a reason he was trying to lead the league in assists in the 70's and fool people. Like lebron. Mental midgets. Jack of all trades masters of none.
Especially how they talk about themselves. Insecurity, always.[/QUOTE]
Bruh i don't know what you've seen from wilt but he in no way seemed insecure. He was as cool and confident as they come. I agree bron can come off as insecure at times. Sometimes his shit seems a bit forced. That wasn't the case for wilt.
[QUOTE=Manny98;14269893]Wilts high usage low efficiency playstyle limits the ceiling of his teams offense hence lack of success when it matters
[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/FsT10Fqd/Wilts-Correlation-PPG-and-Team-ORtg-2.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I'm not a big fan of charts and graphs, so I will simply rely on undiluted fact and put that data in its proper context. Prior to the arrival of rookie center Wilt Chamberlain, the 1958-1959 Warriors were not considered a threat to either the Nationals or the Celtics. Wilt's impact on the league and his team was immediate.
The 1959-1960 Warriors went from 32 wins the year before his arrival to 49 wins his rookie year, 46 wins his 2nd year, and 49 wins in his historic 1961-1962 season. In those 3 years, the Warriors went to the playoffs every year and Wilt produced the greatest 3 year individual run in NBA history. Chamberlain also produced the greatest rookie season in NBA history, he was named the league MVP, and if the playoffs are all that "really" matter, this chart's attempt to marginalize the importance of his scoring dominance is borderline laughable.
In the deciding Game 3 of the 1960 Eastern Playoffs, Chamberlain scored 53 points on 24-42 from the floor in a victory over the Nationals. In the 1960 Eastern Conference Finals, the Warriors were down 3-1 against the heavily favored Celtics, so Wilt simply destroyed Bill Russell to the tune of 50 points on 22-42 from the floor to extend the series to a Game 6.
In the deciding Game 5 of the 1962 Eastern Playoffs, Wilt scored 56 points, grabbed 35 rebounds, and blocked 12 shots in a victory over the Nationals. Prior to the 1962 Eastern Conference Finals, most sportswriters predicted that the Celtics would sweep the Warriors, but Wilt and those less than impactful scoring numbers helped to take the Celtics to the brink.
The teams split the first 6 games with the Warrior's winning Games 2, 4, and 6. In the spirit of combining fact and context, Chamberlain averaged 38.3 points in the Warriors 3 wins and 30.0 points in their 4 losses. In-Game 7 of this hard-fought series, Frank McGuire asked Wilt to concentrate on defence and Chamberlain responded by blocking 14 shots.
A controversial goaltending call against Wilt wiped out his 15th blocked shot and the Celtics led 107-102 with only a few minutes left in the contest. Wilt then went back to his meaningless scoring ways and scored the games next 5 points to tie the score at 107. Sam Jones, not Bill Russell, then won game 7 at the buzzer with a 20-foot jump shot.
This narrative was repeated in the 1965 Eastern Conference Finals when Wilt's 76ers again took the heavily favored Celtics to a Game 7, and Chamberlain again scored down the stretch (e.g., last 6 points of the game) to cut the Celtics lead to 1 point. Russell then hit the backboard supporting wire on an inbounds pass, but Havlicek bailed him out by stealing Hal Greer's inbounds pass.
In that series, Chamberlain became the ONLY player in NBA history to average a 30-30 in a playoff series. If any other player in NBA history averaged 30.1 points and 31.4 rebounds against Bill Russell in a playoff series, ESPN would set aside 24 hours to blather on about why this player is the "real" GOAT. In the 2nd half of Wilt's career, the talent level of his teams allowed him to concentrate more on passing the ball and playing defence, but his offensive game was still good enough to make him the most impactful player on 2 of the 5 greatest teams (e.g., 1966-1967 76ers, 1971-1972 Lakers) in NBA history.
[QUOTE=LAL;14270568]There's a reason he was trying to lead the league in assists in the 70's and fool people. Like lebron. Mental midgets. Jack of all trades masters of none.
Especially how they talk about themselves. Insecurity, always.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
Someone who was confindent enough to make bets on anything, to take up any sport he wanted, from track and field to tennis to water polo to marathons to car racing, who literally believed he'd beat Muhammad Ali in boxing and wasn't backing down and was negotiating the fight for whole months, who was spitting on idiots who were asking him "how's the weather up there" (while answering "it's raining"), who hit on more women in a day than the average ISH poster will do in a lifetime, etc, decided to lead the league in assists because he was "insecure" and a "mental midget". ROFL, man, Wilt detractors are the Flat Earthers of sports, calling competitiveness and having multiple ambitions and interests "insecurity".
[QUOTE=coastalmarker99;14270692]I'm not a big fan of charts and graphs, so I will simply rely on undiluted fact and put that data in its proper context. Prior to the arrival of rookie center Wilt Chamberlain, the 1958-1959 Warriors were not considered a threat to either the Nationals or the Celtics. Wilt's impact on the league and his team was immediate.
The 1959-1960 Warriors went from 32 wins the year before his arrival to 49 wins his rookie year, 46 wins his 2nd year, and 49 wins in his historic 1961-1962 season. In those 3 years, the Warriors went to the playoffs every year and Wilt produced the greatest 3 year individual run in NBA history. Chamberlain also produced the greatest rookie season in NBA history, he was named the league MVP, and if the playoffs are all that "really" matter, this chart's attempt to marginalize the importance of his scoring dominance is borderline laughable.
In the deciding Game 3 of the 1960 Eastern Playoffs, Chamberlain scored 53 points on 24-42 from the floor in a victory over the Nationals. In the 1960 Eastern Conference Finals, the Warriors were down 3-1 against the heavily favored Celtics, so Wilt simply destroyed Bill Russell to the tune of 50 points on 22-42 from the floor to extend the series to a Game 6.
In the deciding Game 5 of the 1962 Eastern Playoffs, Wilt scored 56 points, grabbed 35 rebounds, and blocked 12 shots in a victory over the Nationals. Prior to the 1962 Eastern Conference Finals, most sportswriters predicted that the Celtics would sweep the Warriors, but Wilt and those less than impactful scoring numbers helped to take the Celtics to the brink.
The teams split the first 6 games with the Warrior's winning Games 2, 4, and 6. In the spirit of combining fact and context, Chamberlain averaged 38.3 points in the Warriors 3 wins and 30.0 points in their 4 losses. In-Game 7 of this hard-fought series, Frank McGuire asked Wilt to concentrate on defence and Chamberlain responded by blocking 14 shots.
A controversial goaltending call against Wilt wiped out his 15th blocked shot and the Celtics led 107-102 with only a few minutes left in the contest. Wilt then went back to his meaningless scoring ways and scored the games next 5 points to tie the score at 107. Sam Jones, not Bill Russell, then won game 7 at the buzzer with a 20-foot jump shot.
This narrative was repeated in the 1965 Eastern Conference Finals when Wilt's 76ers again took the heavily favored Celtics to a Game 7, and Chamberlain again scored down the stretch (e.g., last 6 points of the game) to cut the Celtics lead to 1 point. Russell then hit the backboard supporting wire on an inbounds pass, but Havlicek bailed him out by stealing Hal Greer's inbounds pass.
In that series, Chamberlain became the ONLY player in NBA history to average a 30-30 in a playoff series. If any other player in NBA history averaged 30.1 points and 31.4 rebounds against Bill Russell in a playoff series, ESPN would set aside 24 hours to blather on about why this player is the "real" GOAT. In the 2nd half of Wilt's career, the talent level of his teams allowed him to concentrate more on passing the ball and playing defence, but his offensive game was still good enough to make him the most impactful player on 2 of the 5 greatest teams (e.g., 1966-1967 76ers, 1971-1972 Lakers) in NBA history.[/QUOTE]
Also, if you analyze Wilt's high scoring seasons game by game, you'll see that there's a positive correlation between Wilt taking many shots and his teams winning. Only his half season stint with the Sixers in '65 looks like an exception and in '66, the rule returns. If Wilt not shooting was really a good thing, then people should stop criticizing him for not scoring enough or not taking enough shots in certain crucial games.
Btw, notice also how, in that high scoring season frame of this graph, there's also a positive correlation between his high scoring and his team winning.
[QUOTE=Manny98;14269890]22.5 ppg playing 48 minutes at a extremely high pace with mediocre efficiency as he couldn't shoot the basketball to a
save his life?
That's absolutely horrific :oldlol:
Thanks for proving that It is the most overrated player in NBA history[/QUOTE]The only thing proven here is that you're either too lazy to fully look up his stats or just another dishonest troll. In his Laker years he played a reduced role with 5 seasons under 20 ppg in the playoffs including 10 ppg when he was 36. Before he went there he had 5 postseasons of 9+ games over 28 ppg. 3 of those runs were over 33 points, and a 35 point peak. A 35 ppg postseason would be a highlight for any player in NBA history. Efficiency? Horrible FT shooter but he shot 52% from the field for his postseason career. No honest evaluation of Chamberlain's stats by a person of at least average intelligence can conclude that he wasn't a dominant offensive player.
No one here watched wilt play
I always said his most valuable days were the 1970s when he was a defensive anchor and not a franchise player. He's not a good guy, he's a deadbeat dad even though he's rich. I also read he would cuss out the stat boy for making a mistake on his stats. He sat on the bench at the end of game 7 of the 1969 finals and Bill Russell publically called him a pu*ssy for it. In other words, he's the worst leader ever and an asshole.