why I haven't taken the vaccine and won't for at least 10 years

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this is my uncle. he was a medical doctor and helped develop vaccines for 30 years. he injected chimpanzees and killed thousands perfecting drugs to safely use on humans. he moved every 4 or 5 years because PETA would threaten him and his family. he said it takes up to 8 or 10 years to find out long term effects. for people my parents age they don't really have a choice. but for anyone under the age if 50 with no serious health issues it would actually be far more dangerous to take a new vaccine that hasn't gone through proper testing than it would be to catch covid and simply wait it through. for the short term you might be OK but a few years from now you might have kidney failure or some other problems. I think its like a 1 in 1400 chance of dying from covid. is that really worth signing up to be a lab rat

unless you're a heavy smoker or suffer from obesity/other major health issues or you're over the age of 50. do not take anything. not for at least 8 to 10 years. my uncles tossed out so many chimps in trash bags testing drugs for far less serious things than covid. so imagine how powerful this stuff must be.

Hundreds of millions of people have been vaccinated now. If there's any side effects at all, whether short term or long term, would've been detected by now. And indeed we have detected plenty of side effects like nausea, fever, joint pain, etc in some people. One might be forgiven for thinking, "but it's only been a few months. What about side effects that would take years to show up?" Nope. With this many people vaccinated, there's nothing that will show up that hasn't already. These vaccines aren't mysterious substance, they're well researched and scientifically very sound.

[QUOTE=iamgine;14346437]Hundreds of millions of people have been vaccinated now. If there's any side effects at all, whether short term or long term, would've been detected by now. And indeed we have detected plenty of side effects like nausea, fever, joint pain, etc in some people. One might be forgiven for thinking, "but it's only been a few months. What about side effects that would take years to show up?" Nope. With this many people vaccinated, there's nothing that will show up that hasn't already. These vaccines aren't mysterious substance, they're well researched and scientifically very sound.[/QUOTE]



except tons of people have had bad reactions and some even dying from it and every single time they're marking it down as natural causes while hospitals couldn't wait to mark down a car crash victim as covid related lol. sorry but it takes a minimum of 3 to 4 years to find long term effects and just to be safe they do a minimum of 8 years just to be safe for most drugs that get approved. most damaged organs can hang on for a few years before causing extreme pain and failure. I guess long term effects is just a made up thing lmao. its really just 2 to 3 month effects. and btw they're already banning some vaccines due to blood clots. it's already proven they didn't do enough testing. people are also having heart problems. have you ever seen those commercials where at the end they say "may lead to heart disease, possible stroke, seizure and 20 other things. do not take if you are or have and they list another 20 things... know how they find out all of these things? through many years of research. right now you are the research. have fun

I won't take the vaccine... ever because i am a young healthy adult who rarely get's sick

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[QUOTE=kenneth_griffin;14346454]except tons of people have had bad reactions and some even dying from it and every single time they're marking it down as natural causes while hospitals couldn't wait to mark down a car crash victim as covid related lol. sorry but it takes a minimum of 3 to 4 years to find long term effects and just to be safe they do a minimum of 8 years just to be safe for most drugs that get approved. most damaged organs can hang on for a few years before causing extreme pain and failure. I guess long term effects is just a made up thing lmao. its really just 2 to 3 month effects. and btw they're already banning some vaccines due to blood clots. it's already proven they didn't do enough testing. people are also having heart problems. have you ever seen those commercials where at the end they say "may lead to heart disease, possible stroke, seizure and 20 other things. do not take if you are or have and they list another 20 things... know how they find out all of these things? through many years of research. right now you are the research. have fun[/QUOTE]
One might be forgiven for thinking, "but it's only been a few months. What about side effects that would take years to show up?" Nope. With this many people vaccinated, there's nothing that will show up that hasn't already. Would be different if the sample is only a few hundreds or a thousand.

[QUOTE=iamgine;14346437]Hundreds of millions of people have been vaccinated now. If there's any side effects at all, whether short term or long term, would've been detected by now. And indeed we have detected plenty of side effects like nausea, fever, joint pain, etc in some people. One might be forgiven for thinking, "but it's only been a few months. What about side effects that would take years to show up?" Nope. With this many people vaccinated, there's nothing that will show up that hasn't already. These vaccines aren't mysterious substance, they're well researched and scientifically very sound.[/QUOTE]

Err how do you get long term effects after only a few months. Are you stupid ?

[QUOTE=iamgine;14346498]One might be forgiven for thinking, "but it's only been a few months. What about side effects that would take years to show up?" Nope. With this many people vaccinated, there's nothing that will show up that hasn't already. Would be different if the sample is only a few hundreds or a thousand.[/QUOTE]


Based on what? Your cnn viewing:lol idiot

It's counter intuitive I know.

[QUOTE=iamgine;14346437]Hundreds of millions of people have been vaccinated now. If there's any side effects at all, whether short term or long term, would've been detected by now. And indeed we have detected plenty of side effects like nausea, fever, joint pain, etc in some people. One might be forgiven for thinking, "but it's only been a few months. What about side effects that would take years to show up?" Nope. With this many people vaccinated, there's nothing that will show up that hasn't already. These vaccines aren't mysterious substance, they're well researched and scientifically very sound.[/QUOTE]

The vaccines just rolled out a few months ago and you know the long term? What?

That makes no sense.

[QUOTE=coin24;14346512]Err how do you get long term effects after only a few months. Are you stupid ?[/QUOTE]

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What he's saying makes no sense. You could vaccinate 100 trillion people and would still have to wait years to see long term. I don't know how somebody could be so stupid to say what hes saying.

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What he's saying makes no sense. [B]You could vaccinate 100 trillion people and would still have to wait years to see long term[/B]. I don't know how somebody could be so stupid to say what hes saying.[/QUOTE]

I thought that before, cause that's what a laymen would think. But turns out it's not true. Any side effects would've been detected by now cause of the huge sample numbers.

The ingredients of the vaccine are negligible. This isn't a wonderdrug and seems safe

so people wanna talk about the unstudied long term effects of the vaccine, but don't wanna mention that the long term effects of covid are unstudied as well. seems like a whole lotta bullshit to me.

i don't know how many times this has to get talked about here. i think a common sense approach to this is fairly simple. if you're old or vulnerable, get vaccinated. if you're young and healthy, then make your own decision on whether you want to roll the dice on either getting the vaccine or catching covid.

it's when you start pushing your beliefs on other people like you're all-knowing one way or the other is when you look like a f***ing clown.

It seems there have been a lot of side effects, but the msm isn’t reporting that now are they?
Just like they’re not reporting dr 2 masks lying on the stand and had his emails exposed

If this is the source also telling you it’s safe to inject god knows what into yourself, maybe it’s time to think twice?

[QUOTE=iamgine;14346531]I thought that before, cause that's what a laymen would think. But turns out it's not true. Any side effects would've been detected by now cause of the huge sample numbers.[/QUOTE]

Long term effects are defined as a year or multiple years later. There's nobody on earth that's had the vaccine that long. You arent even able to specify on what the exact reasoning is behind what you said.

Apparently some people do not get the meaning of "long term" in regards to long term effects. These vaccines rolled out in December. There is not a single person in the world who has been vaccinated for even a year. Long term effects are just that meaning they manifest over time after a few years. Anyone who took the vaccine willingly submitted to being a long term trial test subject for a vaccine for a virus with a 99.8% recovery rate. :facepalm There are a LOT of stupid people in this world.

[QUOTE=diamenz;14346537]so people wanna talk about the unstudied long term effects of the vaccine, but don't wanna mention that the long term effects of covid are unstudied as well. seems like a whole lotta bullshit to me.

i don't know how many times this has to get talked about here. i think a common sense approach to this is fairly simple. if you're old or vulnerable, get vaccinated. if you're young and healthy, then make your own decision on whether you want to roll the dice on either getting the vaccine or catching covid.

it's when you start pushing your beliefs on other people like you're all-knowing one way or the other is when you look like a f***ing clown.[/QUOTE]



the chances of catching covid are pretty slim. especially now. the chances of feeling the possible side effects of a drug in 4 or 5 years is 1 in 1 if you take the drug

I've been going out regularly for groceries and having friends over on the weekend since.covid began and I have yet to even catch a cold let alone see any signs of covid in me.

I like my chances because I wash my hands, don't touch my face and wear a mask when around new people. I also try to keep my inner circle of friends small and I'm never around kids either. in my situation there is no reason whatsoever to get the vaccine and risk my body

I'm not a smoker. I'm 37. an average weight. no health conditions. if I do somehow get covid then that's when I will start worrying about possible side effects years from now. I'm not gonna sign up for it

Seems like iamgine ruffled some feathers this morning. :lol Of course this vaccine will have some side effects but nothing even close to widespread like some of these anti-fax people are telling people.

[QUOTE=kenneth_griffin;14346593]the chances of catching covid are pretty slim. especially now. the chances of feeling the possible side effects of a drug in 4 or 5 years is 1 in 1 if you take the drug

I've been going out regularly for groceries and having friends over on the weekend since.covid began and I have yet to even catch a cold let alone see any signs of covid in me.

I like my chances because I wash my hands, don't touch my face and wear a mask when around new people. I also try to keep my inner circle of friends small and I'm never around kids either. in my situation there is no reason whatsoever to get the vaccine and risk my body

I'm not a smoker. I'm 37. an average weight. no health conditions. if I do somehow get covid then that's when I will start worrying about possible side effects years from now. I'm not gonna sign up for it[/QUOTE]

My wife and I have lived our lives normally since the "15 days to stop the spread" ended. We did wear mask for a while however we quit long before the mandate in our state ended. We do live in Texas where they did not lock down near as hard as the blue states so most businesses were open. I have been in hundreds of stores and restaurants maskless for several months now. So far I only had one store insist I wear a mask to enter so I politely declined and went to another store. My wife and daughter did catch the virus but neither got very sick. So far I have avoided it. I have never once been scared of a virus with a 99.8% recovery rate and I will NEVER get the "jab". I am 52 and in great health so I am not worried. Anyone who let all the the fear porn pushed so hard by the mainstream media rule their life is an idiot.

[QUOTE=tpols;14346548]Long term effects are defined as a year or multiple years later. There's nobody on earth that's had the vaccine that long. You arent even able to specify on what the exact reasoning is behind what you said.[/QUOTE]

As a year? Thousands of people took the vaccines in May/June of last year as part of the research studies to find out safety and efficacy. We have reached a year for those people. We will soon see how well the vaccines have fared in them over a year. The studies have been ongoing and they have been keeping a close eye on those patients regularly as part of the research. If lots of them were dying or getting serious side effects in mass by now, we would know.

[QUOTE=bladefd;14346610]As a year? Thousands of people took the vaccines in May/June of last year as part of the research studies to find out safety and efficacy. We have reached a year for those people. We will soon see how well the vaccines have fared in them over a year. The studies have been ongoing and they have been keeping a close eye on those patients regularly as part of the research. If lots of them were dying or getting serious side effects in mass by now, we would know.[/QUOTE]

You are one dumb asshole for championing this cause. Theyre going to get everything they want done because of idiots like you.

[QUOTE=bladefd;14346610] If lots of them were dying or getting serious side effects in mass by now, we would know.[/QUOTE]


no.. because I've seen many celebrities drop dead since the vaccines were made available and a lot of them were 40/50/60 with no real.health issues and suddenly a week after their shot they died. and not one single time has there been an investigation or allegation. theyre shut down quickly. youre banned for even talking about stuff like that. it's censored and that scares me. don't trust a government that works with a country that has been proven to manufacture the very thing that they want us to get vaccinated for

[QUOTE=tpols;14346702]You are one dumb asshole for championing this cause. Theyre going to get everything they want done because of idiots like you.[/QUOTE]

You are too far down the rabbit hole to bother arguing with. Stay down there.

[QUOTE=kenneth_griffin;14346793]no.. because I've seen many celebrities drop dead since the vaccines were made available and a lot of them were 40/50/60 with no real.health issues and suddenly a week after their shot they died. and not one single time has there been an investigation or allegation. theyre shut down quickly. youre banned for even talking about stuff like that. it's censored and that scares me. don't trust a government that works with a country that has been proven to manufacture the very thing that they want us to get vaccinated for[/QUOTE]

Which celebrities? And you sure they had the vaccines and dropped dead afterwards? Link me to these celebrities.

As for your last sentence, what evidence do you have that covid was manufactured and by the government. Who manufactured it?

[QUOTE=Manny98;14346479]I won't take the vaccine... ever because i am a young healthy adult who rarely get's sick[/QUOTE]

I owe you an apology. The circumstances for the covid vaccine aren't the same as the nutjobs who are out there saying all vaccines cause autism.

[QUOTE=Charlie Sheen;14346955]I owe you an apology. The circumstances for the covid vaccine aren't the same as the nutjobs who are out there saying all vaccines cause autism.[/QUOTE]

Yup.

I never had a problem with getting vaccines my whole life for other things, but those vaccines were tested for many years and had legit deadly conditions behind them ~ meningitis, hepatitis, tetanus etc. Don't **** around with major brain, liver, and blood infections.

This? This is bullshit. There are hardcore nefarious motives behind these never before seen societal lockdowns and forced mass needle jabs. Media has never advertised vaccines like this before and they've even gone as far to PAY people to take it.

Some dumb ****ing sheep my guy... ruining it for all of us because they bought into it early, and,now their egos are tied to it so they won't turn around.

[QUOTE=bladefd;14346943]Which celebrities? And you sure they had the vaccines and dropped dead afterwards? Link me to these celebrities.

As for your last sentence, what evidence do you have that covid was manufactured and by the government. Who manufactured it?[/QUOTE]


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"diabetic complication" lmao

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convenient

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good timing though

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still no cause of death reported

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my phone nearly blew up putting this video on YouTube. bells and buzzes going off every second. internet cutting out multiple times. taking 20 minutes instead of the usual 30 seconds. HOOOOW CONVENIENT

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[QUOTE=Charlie Sheen;14346955]I owe you an apology. The circumstances for the covid vaccine aren't the same as the nutjobs who are out there saying all vaccines cause autism.[/QUOTE]
:cheers:

[QUOTE=iamgine;14346531]I thought that before, cause that's what a laymen would think. But turns out it's not true. Any side effects would've been detected by now cause of the huge sample numbers.[/QUOTE]

Completely illogical what's your source/proof?

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good timing though[/QUOTE]

is that a wide angle lens or are his hands really that big? holy shit.

After taking the second dose, would your shoulder be attached to a car's body when you're in close proximity to it?

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"diabetic complication" lmao[/QUOTE]

How do you know he died after getting the vaccine? What evidence do you have to link his death to covid vaccine?

[QUOTE=Rocket;14346575]Apparently some people do not get the meaning of "long term" in regards to long term effects. These vaccines rolled out in December. There is not a single person in the world who has been vaccinated for even a year. Long term effects are just that meaning they manifest over time after a few years. Anyone who took the vaccine willingly submitted to being a long term trial test subject for a vaccine for a virus with a 99.8% recovery rate. :facepalm There are a LOT of stupid people in this world.[/QUOTE]

One could be forgiven for thinking, "but it's only been a few months. What about side effects that would take years to show up?" Nope. With this many people vaccinated, there's nothing that will show up that hasn't already. Would be different if the sample is only a few hundreds or a thousand.

[QUOTE=bladefd;14347362]How do you know he died after getting the vaccine? What evidence do you have to link his death to covid vaccine?[/QUOTE]

I dont. thats the thing. they won't investigate and every time something like this happens it's swept under the rug. the fact that every single time someone dies the very next day there's a headline that says "not due to vaccine" means ....ITS PROBLY DUE TO THE F*CKING VACCINE

otherwise why push this much propaganda and censorship

[QUOTE=bladefd;14346943]Which celebrities? And you sure they had the vaccines and dropped dead afterwards? Link me to these celebrities.

As for your last sentence, what evidence do you have that covid was manufactured and by the government. Who manufactured it?[/QUOTE]


Are you that fkn stupid?

Fauci is being grilled for it right now. :lol they’ve been funding the research of these virus labs all around the world, and guess where, wuhan.