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Currently, LeBron is the only 3/3 player in history in franchises played/won with
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There are only 3 other players in history who have won with 3 separate franchises:
Robert Horry (won with 3 out of 4 franchises played with)
Danny Green (3 ouf of 5)
John Salley (3 out of 5)
And the remarkable thing is that all of these are role players, whereas LeBron is unquestionably the man/Finals MVP through his winning endeavors. And on top of that he's 3/3, unlike any of the other three.
Kawhi has a chance to achieve this, but only because of his fraudulent tactic of sitting out an entire season in order to increase his odds of winning, which has been proven to work as far back as the 90s and as early back as last season. And even if Kawhi achieved this, it would be far less impressive due to him basically being a role-player when he won with the Spurs.
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Re: Currently, LeBron is the only 3/3 player in history in franchises played/won with
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There are only 3 other players in history who have won with 3 separate franchises:
Robert Horry (won with 3 out of 4 franchises played with)
Danny Green (3 ouf of 5)
John Salley (3 out of 5)
And the remarkable thing is that all of these are role players, whereas LeBron is unquestionably the man/Finals MVP through his winning endeavors. And on top of that he's 3/3, unlike any of the other three.
Kawhi has a chance to achieve this, but only because of his fraudulent tactic of sitting out an entire season in order to increase his odds of winning, which has been proven to work as far back as the 90s and as early back as last season.[b] And even if Kawhi achieved this, it would be far less impressive due to him basically being a role-player when he won with the Spurs.[/b][/QUOTE]
So that would be 2 role players, the other being Iggy, who won FMVP on Bran's dime?
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Re: Currently, LeBron is the only 3/3 player in history in franchises played/won with
[QUOTE=TheMan;14664975]So that would be 2 role players, the other being Iggy, who won FMVP on Bran's dime?
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Which Finals does MJ still win without Pippen, Grant / Rodman?
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Re: Currently, LeBron is the only 3/3 player in history in franchises played/won with
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;14664980]Which Finals does MJ still win without Pippen, Grant / Rodman?[/QUOTE]
None, MJ can't beat a team by himself...no one man can.
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Re: Currently, LeBron is the only 3/3 player in history in franchises played/won with
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;14664980]Which Finals does MJ still win without Pippen, Grant / Rodman?[/QUOTE]
47+ all star games for Lebrons teammates.
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Re: Currently, LeBron is the only 3/3 player in history in franchises played/won with
[QUOTE=TheMan;14664986]None, MJ can't beat a team by himself...no one man can.[/QUOTE]
So why bring up Iggy and Kawhit when we know what the context is about 2014 and 15?
When your 2nd option (Wade who some still called a superstar) puts up 89 offensive rating and a 120 defensive rating that equals a 7.9 gamescore...... that's hard to overcome.
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[QUOTE=Bacchus;14664989]47+ all star games for Lebrons teammates.[/QUOTE]
How many All-NBA teammates, by season, did he play with?
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[QUOTE=Hey Yo;14664980]Which Finals does MJ still win without Pippen, Grant / Rodman?[/QUOTE]
He was too busy getting literally bullied by 220 pound cs and pfs before the legacy savers were recruited.
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The fruits of collusion and team-hopping. Only in the mind of a Bronie is that a positive thing.
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Goat team hopping beta boy :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=Hey Yo;14664980]Which Finals does MJ still win without Pippen, Grant / Rodman?[/QUOTE]
The answer:
jordon didn't win a single first round without The Great Scott Pippen, and a single second round without The Great Scott Pippen + Grant/Rodman.
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Re: Currently, LeBron is the only 3/3 player in history in franchises played/won with
Inventing arbitrary shit again to push your guy? You know Jordan is the online franchise player that won more than 5 championships with the franchise that drafted him?
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[QUOTE=Overdrive;14665054]Inventing arbitrary shit again to push your guy? You know Jordan is the online franchise player that won more than 5 championships with the franchise that drafted him?[/QUOTE]
No. Inventing arbitrary shit is something like "finals winnings percentage", which has never been mentioned in GOAT discussions before LeBron. And something where jordon is still behind the 8/8 in finals multiple All-NBA 1st teams, All-defensive 1st teams & Finals MVP winner John Havlicek... who was drafted by the Celtics by the way.
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[QUOTE=Overdrive;14665054]Inventing arbitrary shit again to push your guy? You know Jordan is the online franchise player that won more than 5 championships with the franchise that drafted him?[/QUOTE]
Nvm.... misread your post
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[QUOTE=TheGoatest;14665057]No. Inventing arbitrary shit is something like "finals winnings percentage", which has never been mentioned in GOAT discussions before LeBron. And something where jordon is still behind the 8/8 in finals multiple All-NBA 1st teams, All-defensive 1st teams & Finals MVP winner John Havlicek... who was drafted by the Celtics by the way.[/QUOTE]
Inventing arbitrary shit is what you do best :confusedshrug:
Magic never won a ring without KAJ, it never gets brought up BECAUSE IT'S A RETARDED ARGUMENT yet that's all you do to discredit MJ, in fact, that's all you have :oldlol: But keep on doing your thing, you're a joke, even Bronies think that, 'grats on your Stupidest Poster win BTW :applause:
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Re: Currently, LeBron is the only 3/3 player in history in franchises played/won with
[QUOTE=TheGoatest;14665057]No. Inventing arbitrary shit is something like "finals winnings percentage", which has never been mentioned in GOAT discussions before LeBron. And something where jordon is still behind the 8/8 in finals multiple All-NBA 1st teams, All-defensive 1st teams & Finals MVP winner John Havlicek... who was drafted by the Celtics by the way.[/QUOTE]
Hondo was never the undisputed franchise player for the Celtics, not even when he won FMVP.
Ofc this thread is arbitrary BS just as much as the thing I posted or 6/6 is.
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[QUOTE=TheMan;14665064]Inventing arbitrary shit is what you do best :confusedshrug:
Magic never won a ring without KAJ, it never gets brought up BECAUSE IT'S A RETARDED ARGUMENT yet that's all you do to discredit MJ, in fact, that's all you have :oldlol: But keep on doing your thing, you're a joke, even Bronies think that, 'grats on your Stupidest Poster win BTW :applause:[/QUOTE]
Magic made the finals without KAJ. Not to mention game 6 of the 1980 finals. Looks a little better than 1-9 and zero .500 seasons out of 5 attempts. :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=Overdrive;14665070]Hondo was never the undisputed franchise player for the Celtics, not even when he won FMVP.
Ofc this thread is arbitrary BS just as much as the thing I posted or 6/6 is.[/QUOTE]
No, your post is arbitrary because it features a grey area, that is defining a "franchise player", especially because a multiple All-NBA 1st teamer, multiple All-defensive 1st teamer, Finals MVP apparently isn't a franchise player. My post is about something that is only done by LeBron. Currently, nobody else has a perfect 3/3 record when it comes to franchises played/won for. "Franchise player" or not. And the only other three players who are 3/4 or 3/5 haven't not only been All-NBA 1st teamers/All-defensive 1st teamers/Finals MVP winners like Havlicek, but they don't even have a single all-star selection between them.
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I think op should be banned again for spamming the same shit multiple times.
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[QUOTE=TheGoatest;14665079]No, your post is arbitrary because it features a grey area, that is defining a "franchise player", especially because a multiple All-NBA 1st teamer, multiple All-defensive 1st teamer, Finals MVP apparently isn't a franchise player. My post is about something that is only done by LeBron. Currently, nobody else has a perfect 3/3 record when it comes to franchises played/won for. "Franchise player" or not. And the only other three players who are 3/4 or 3/5 haven't not only been All-NBA 1st teamers/All-defensive 1st teamers/Finals MVP winners like Havlicek, but they don't even have a single all-star selection between them.[/QUOTE]
Of course your stuff is arbitrary. Nobody gives a shit if Lebron won with 1 or 20 teams. It doesn't matter. It's not a real archievement or stat. It's like those "first player to score 23 points 8 rebounds 12 rebs in a game played within 200 miles of an airbase on sunday, but not in february"-stats espn always comes up with.
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[QUOTE=TheGoatest;14665077]Magic made the finals without KAJ. Not to mention game 6 of the 1980 finals. Looks a little better than 1-9 and zero .500 seasons out of 5 attempts. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Yes he did make the Finals without KAJ and lost to MJ, and KAJ was having a great 1980 Finals and credit Magic for stepping up but I love how you bring that up but won't mention MJ carrying the 98 Bulls when Pippen missed half the season and finally MJ carrying the Bulls when Pippen was hobbled with a back injury and basically missed the second half of the Finals GM 6. Either you didn't know that because you weren't around or you're an intellectually dishonest moron.
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[QUOTE=TheMan;14665131]Yes he did make the Finals without KAJ and lost to MJ, and KAJ was having a great 1980 Finals and credit Magic for stepping up but I love how you bring that up but won't mention MJ carrying the 98 Bulls when Pippen missed half the season and finally MJ carrying the Bulls when Pippen was hobbled with a back injury and basically missed the second half of the Finals GM 6. Either you didn't know that because you weren't around or you're an intellectually dishonest moron.[/QUOTE]
i won't be surprised if he would create threads like, "Lebron wore the largest condom evah"
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Ran away when it was too hard...3 times...and stacked the deck with prime top tier players....
Can't achieve anything without prime top tier players.
Bubble scrimmage awards also don't count
No AD...no playoffs out West
No kyrie no cavs chip
No ray....1 ring only
22-33 finals record
Swept twice
Gentleman's swept twice
4 fmvp to direct opponents
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[QUOTE=TheMan;14665131]Yes he did make the Finals without KAJ and lost to MJ, and KAJ was having a great 1980 Finals and credit Magic for stepping up but I love how you bring that up but won't mention MJ carrying the 98 Bulls when Pippen missed half the season and finally MJ carrying the Bulls when Pippen was hobbled with a back injury and basically missed the second half of the Finals GM 6. Either you didn't know that because you weren't around or you're an intellectually dishonest moron.[/QUOTE]
You mean Magic was about to win the 1991 finals by winning game 1 until he got jordon into foul trouble in game 2 and The Great Scott Pippen stepped up to guard him. :oldlol:
The Great Scott Pippen missed zero, as in ZERO playoff/finals games in all the Bulls championship runs. The same goes for Dennis Rodman and Horace Grant by the way. But let's talk about the ONE game where he "basically missed the second half".
On the other hand, LeBron (while missing zero playoff/finals games himself) had Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, AD and even going back to Larry Hughes all miss a shitload of playoffs/finals games, yet you still give him shit for losing series he had no business being in to begin with, due to his injured supporting cast. Talk about ultra-hypocrisy.
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[QUOTE=Overdrive;14665096]Of course your stuff is arbitrary. Nobody gives a shit if Lebron won with 1 or 20 teams. It doesn't matter. It's not a real archievement or stat. It's like those "first player to score 23 points 8 rebounds 12 rebs in a game played within 200 miles of an airbase on sunday, but not in february"-stats espn always comes up with.[/QUOTE]
I know that LeBron haters like yourself don't give a damn about his championships, or how he's about to pass Kareem.
But I clearly remember the media mentioning John Salley becoming the first player to ever win a championship with three different teams when he won with the Lakers in 2000. And he got exposure for this despite being a bench-warming giga scrub, and winning those chips basically on a coincidence. Meanwhile LeBron won with 3 different teams as the undisputed man and Finals MVP. And on top of that he hasn't played for a franchise that he hasn't won with.
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[QUOTE=TheGoatest;14665227]I know that LeBron haters like yourself don't give a damn about his championships, or how he's about to pass Kareem.
But I clearly remember the media mentioning John Salley becoming the first player to ever win a championship with three different teams when he won with the Lakers in 2000. And he got exposure for this despite being a bench-warming giga scrub, and winning those chips basically on a coincidence. Meanwhile LeBron won with 3 different teams as the undisputed man and Finals MVP. And on top of that he hasn't played for a franchise that he hasn't won with.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the media mentions arbitrary things. Refer back to my post.
I'm no Lebron hater - see the Lebron-scorer thread - I just hate stans like you or 3ball. You're a disservice to your favourite player without even noticing.
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[QUOTE=Bawkish;14665185]i won't be surprised if he would create threads like, "Lebron wore the largest condom evah"[/QUOTE]
:roll:
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[QUOTE=TheGoatest;14665226]You mean Magic was about to win the 1991 finals by winning game 1 until he got jordon into foul trouble in game 2 and The Great Scott Pippen stepped up to guard him. :oldlol:
The Great Scott Pippen missed zero, as in ZERO playoff/finals games in all the Bulls championship runs. The same goes for Dennis Rodman and Horace Grant by the way. But let's talk about the ONE game where he "basically missed the second half".
On the other hand, LeBron (while missing zero playoff/finals games himself) had Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, AD and even going back to Larry Hughes all miss a shitload of playoffs/finals games, yet you still give him shit for losing series he had no business being in to begin with, due to his injured supporting cast. Talk about ultra-hypocrisy.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TheMan;14665262][IMG]https://c.tenor.com/BzdybKbJj7gAAAAd/moving-goalpost.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Are you trying to sum up your posting career in one gif? Like how you suddenly started talking about everything but stats in your "stats that prove jordon is the greatest" thread?