Question for the Evangelical MAGAS.
Was God not allowed in this school?
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Question for the Evangelical MAGAS.
Was God not allowed in this school?
Damn, a FEMALE shooter :biggums:
That’s legit the first time I’ve heard of that happening.
And I have to say, it’s fcking sick how people turn every tragedy into a political point, including in this case the deaths of children.
It was a TRANSGENDER. A person with serious mental illness.
Shooter was a woman pretending to be a man. This will disappear from the news cycle in approximately 18 seconds.
If you're quick and you listen closely, you can almost hear the scrambling happening behind the scenes at the major news outlets.
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[QUOTE=JohnnySic;14749212]Shooter was a woman pretending to be a man. This will disappear from the news cycle in approximately 18 seconds.
If you're quick and you listen closely, you can almost hear the scrambling happening behind the scenes at the major news outlets.[/QUOTE]
Is it a man or a woman? I read its a dude trying to be a woman
Oof this thread is a major backfire for your political agenda.
Those of you who still only blame mental illness for these horrific school shootings are the reason why there aren't stricter gun laws in the US. It's obvious that having stricter laws on guns would significantly lower the rate of these shootings. People suffer from mental illness in every country and yet the US is by far and away the country with the most shootings because of the lack of gun control we have
"B-B-BUT MAH GUNS!! I need my gunsss!" Shut the **** up.
dam woman always trying to do what we do best ... be the best Mega man protesting life.
[QUOTE=SaltyMeatballs;14749271]Those of you who still only blame mental illness for these horrific school shootings are the reason why there aren't stricter gun laws in the US. It's obvious that having stricter laws on guns would significantly lower the rate of these shootings. People suffer from mental illness in every country and yet the US is by far and away the country with the most shootings because of the lack of gun control we have
"B-B-BUT MAH GUNS!! I need my gunsss!" Shut the **** up.[/QUOTE]
So how is banning gun sales going to stop a man from getting a gun?
1. There are billion of guns in america. How do you intend to confiscate it all?
2. After its all confiscated, how do you stop a guy with a mill from milling more guns?
3. After a gun is milled, how do we stop a criminal from purchasing said guns?
Please answer these practical questions before you make a general statement of "ban all guns"
[QUOTE=BigKobeFan;14749313]So how is banning gun sales going to stop a man from getting a gun?
1. There are billion of guns in america. How do you intend to confiscate it all?
2. After its all confiscated, how do you stop a guy with a mill from milling more guns?
3. After a gun is milled, how do we stop a criminal from purchasing said guns?
Please answer these practical questions before you make a general statement of "ban all guns"[/QUOTE]
Never said ban all guns. You'd have to be stupid to think that the rate of mass shootings wouldn't significantly decrease if STRICTER gun control laws are enforced.
Answer me this: How is the US far and away at the top of the list when it comes to mass shootings? There is a pretty strong correlation to the amount of mass shootings we have and the leniency of our gun laws and data backs that up.
If you actually care about the lives of innocent people, especially children, then you would be on the boat of enforcing stricter gun laws. Banning all guns would be dumb, but having stronger rules would be the right decision ESPECIALLY after all these shootings over the years.
[QUOTE=SaltyMeatballs;14749324]Never said ban all guns. You'd have to be stupid to think that the rate of mass shootings wouldn't significantly decrease if STRICTER gun control laws are enforced.
Answer me this: How is the US far and away at the top of the list when it comes to mass shootings? There is a pretty strong correlation to the amount of mass shootings we have and the leniency of our gun laws and data backs that up.
If you actually care about the lives of innocent people, especially children, then you would be on the boat of enforcing stricter gun laws. Banning all guns would be dumb, but having stronger rules would be the right decision ESPECIALLY after all these shootings over the years.[/QUOTE]
Answer my question chief.
But I'll answer yours. I would arm the school with officers and lock all gates except one way to get in. What stricter laws do you want or am proposing?
Here are the gun deaths by country. Where's the United states?
[url]https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country/[/url]
[QUOTE=BigKobeFan;14749334]Answer my question chief.
But I'll answer yours. I would arm the school with officers and lock all gates except one way to get in. What stricter laws do you want or am proposing?
Here are the gun deaths by country. Where's the United states?
[url]https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country/[/url][/QUOTE]
Sure. First question doesn't apply because I don't support banning ALL guns. In order to stop a criminal from purchasing guns, we should have much stricter background checks across the entire US.
And sure it would help to arm a school with officers and lock all gates but that doesn't solve the problem of mass shootings that don't take place in schools. The easy access to guns for criminals and people with mental illness is why so many shootings have happened in the US.
Here is the data I have been referring to:
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Amount of mass shootings in developed countries ^
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[QUOTE=SaltyMeatballs;14749353]Sure. First question doesn't apply because I don't support banning ALL guns. In order to stop a criminal from purchasing guns, we should have much stricter background checks across the entire US.
And sure it would help to arm a school with officers and lock all gates but that doesn't solve the problem of mass shootings that don't take place in schools. The easy access to guns for criminals and people with mental illness is why so many shootings have happened in the US.
Here is the data I have been referring to:
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Amount of mass shootings in developed countries ^
[IMG]https://i.ibb.co/TRC18rG/Firearm-Page-1.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
What a ****ing retard
Criminals cannot purchase guns already
[QUOTE=Lakers Legend#32;14749193]Question for the Evangelical MAGAS.
Was God not allowed in this school?[/QUOTE]
What a dilemma, huh?
[QUOTE=BigKobeFan;14749380]What a ****ing retard
Criminals cannot purchase guns already[/QUOTE]
Yeah go ahead and ignore my other points you ****ing birdbrain :oldlol:
Your idea to stop mass shootings is to arm all schools with officers and lock all gates is so stupid because that doesn’t solve mass shootings outside of schools. No point in arguing with retards who are so close minded
[QUOTE=BigKobeFan;14749334]Answer my question chief.
But I'll answer yours. I would arm the school with officers and lock all gates except one way to get in. What stricter laws do you want or am proposing?
Here are the gun deaths by country. Where's the United states?
[url]https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country/[/url][/QUOTE]
The high school I graduated from had 2,728 students for the 2018-19 school year. Add teachers and faculty, and you've got around 3,000 people to get into the building through that one door. How long will that take? And what if there's an emergency (fire, gas leak, bomb threat) and those people need to get out of the building? I'm sure nobody will panic and the evacuation will be peaceful and orderly.
Armed officers sounds great, except there have been way too many school shooting in recent years where officers stood around outside and didn't do squat while kids were being killed inside.
[QUOTE=BigKobeFan;14749313]So how is banning gun sales going to stop a man from getting a gun?
1. There are billion of guns in america. How do you intend to confiscate it all?
2. After its all confiscated, how do you stop a guy with a mill from milling more guns?
3. After a gun is milled, how do we stop a criminal from purchasing said guns?
Please answer these practical questions before you make a general statement of "ban all guns"[/QUOTE]
The US will never be able to get rid of 100% of all gun deaths, it's important to not think is such black and white ways.
We have to make it more difficult for insane people to acquire them, resulting in LOWER gun death rates. This tranny isn't going to visit an inner city black market to purchase illigal guns.
Australia accomplished this, so we know it can be done.
Why do you not want stricter gun laws? If you are a law abiding adult who can get your own guns, why would you not want it to be more difficult for sickos to get purchase them?
[QUOTE=SaltyMeatballs;14749397]Yeah go ahead and ignore my other points you ****ing birdbrain :oldlol:
Your idea to stop mass shootings is to arm all schools with officers and lock all gates is so stupid because that doesn’t solve mass shootings outside of schools. No point in arguing with retards who are so close minded[/QUOTE]
When was the last time you saw a mass shooting where the perp is waiting outside the door for people to come out and shoot? This isnt scarface bro
[QUOTE=Off the Court;14749426]The US will never be able to get rid of 100% of all gun deaths, it's important to not think is such black and white ways.
We have to make it more difficult for insane people to acquire them, resulting in LOWER gun death rates. This tranny isn't going to visit an inner city black market to purchase illigal guns.
Australia accomplished this, so we know it can be done.
Why do you not want stricter gun laws? If you are a law abiding adult who can get your own guns, why would you not want it to be more difficult for sickos to get purchase them?[/QUOTE]
What regulation are u proposing for this stricter gun law measure? All you do is copy what cnn says and say we need stricter laws. So what is it that you want?
[QUOTE=baudkarma;14749419]The high school I graduated from had 2,728 students for the 2018-19 school year. Add teachers and faculty, and you've got around 3,000 people to get into the building through that one door. How long will that take? And what if there's an emergency (fire, gas leak, bomb threat) and those people need to get out of the building? I'm sure nobody will panic and the evacuation will be peaceful and orderly.
Armed officers sounds great, except there have been way too many school shooting in recent years where officers stood around outside and didn't do squat while kids were being killed inside.[/QUOTE]
So youve never heard of one way doors? That lock from the outside?
lmao at the cucks in this thread
Politics aside she looks like that eleven girl from stranger things
[QUOTE=SaltyMeatballs;14749271]Those of you who still only blame mental illness for these horrific school shootings are the reason why there aren't stricter gun laws in the US. It's obvious that having stricter laws on guns would significantly lower the rate of these shootings. People suffer from mental illness in every country and yet the US is by far and away the country with the most shootings because of the lack of gun control we have
"B-B-BUT MAH GUNS!! I need my gunsss!" Shut the **** up.[/QUOTE]
The usual non-argument from the dumb anti-gun crowd.
Explain to us what stricter gun laws is. What does "stricter gun laws" mean to you? It's comical how you say it's obvious stricter gun laws would significantly lower the rate of these shootings, but Neanderthals such as yourself never truly explain what that is. Just another buzz word or buzz phrase to spout so you can feel like you're doing something about it.
[QUOTE=SaltyMeatballs;14749324]Never said ban all guns. You'd have to be stupid to think that the rate of mass shootings wouldn't significantly decrease if STRICTER gun control laws are enforced.
Answer me this: How is the US far and away at the top of the list when it comes to mass shootings? There is a pretty strong correlation to the amount of mass shootings we have and the leniency of our gun laws and data backs that up.
If you actually care about the lives of innocent people, especially children, then you would be on the boat of enforcing stricter gun laws. Banning all guns would be dumb, but having stronger rules would be the right decision ESPECIALLY after all these shootings over the years.[/QUOTE]
Oof, this ape now CAPITALIZED the word STRICTER so we can all know that he means business. But again, this is such an empty statement without meaning.
But of course we know exactly what Salty Bitchballs is talking about. He's talking about a gun ban. This clown ain't fooling anyone.
[QUOTE=BigKobeFan;14749433]What regulation are u proposing for this stricter gun law measure? All you do is copy what cnn says and say we need stricter laws. So what is it that you want?[/QUOTE]
These people are incapable of answering the question. They linger in that gray area forever between a full-on gun ban and them saying they're not coming for your guns. They will never take a side one way or the other cause they are cowards. That's why they never define what the word "Stricter" means to them. They get off on just coming on an internet message board and shoving the word "stricter" in our face so that they can seem as being proactive to the situation. That word is their security blanket even though they have never officially taken a position.
Proposals have been thrown out for years, even decades now.
1. Deeper background checks, look into mental health background, drug prespcriptions etc. This shooter was probably on anti-depressants and could have been flagged from that.
2. Look into illegal drug and addiction history. Has the person been in treatment for drug abuse, etc. If you are being treated for meth addiction you shouldn't be allowed to purchase an AR15.
3. Raise age limits, this can be vary based on firearm type. 30+ to purchase assault weapons, 25+ an all firearms. This is no longer the wild west, 18 year olds don't need guns.
4. Regulate based on primary residence. Rural home owners have more options than urban homeowners. If you live in the city you don't need 20+ rifles.
5. Regulate the total number of guns allowed to own. No single person needs enough guns for an army.
6. Ban all gadget type devises like bump stocks, enormous clips, etc
7. Run buy back programs, this cleans black market guns off the streets.
And I'm not opposed to solutions offered by the gun nuts either. More security at schools is a good idea. Let's do all of it. It won't solve the issue 100% but it will decrease the amount of total deaths. It's time to stop being tribal about this and do something real.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;14749452]Proposals have been thrown out for years, even decades now.
1. Deeper background checks, look into mental health background, drug prespcriptions etc. This shooter was probably on anti-depressants and could have been flagged from that.
2. Look into illegal drug and addiction history. Has the person been in treatment for drug abuse, etc. If you are being treated for meth addiction you shouldn't be allowed to purchase an AR15.
3. Raise age limits, this can be vary based on firearm type. 30+ to purchase assault weapons, 25+ an all firearms. This is no longer the wild west, 18 year olds don't need guns.
4. Regulate based on primary residence. Rural home owners have more options than urban homeowners. If you live in the city you don't need 20+ rifles.
5. Regulate the total number of guns allowed to own. No single person needs enough guns for an army.
6. Ban all gadget type devises like bump stocks, enormous clips, etc
7. Run buy back programs, this cleans black market guns off the streets.
And I'm not opposed to solutions offered by the gun nuts either. More security at schools is a good idea. Let's do all of it. It won't solve the issue 100% but it will decrease the amount of total deaths. It's time to stop being tribal about this and do something real.[/QUOTE]
While all those proposals would be agreed upon by people on both sides of the aisle, which one of these proposals would have singled out this most recent shooter? Which one would she have raised a red flag on that would have prohibited her from obtaining the weapons she purchased?
The anti-depressant proposal will never hold and can be dismantled right away. Suffering from depression is not a recipe for mass murder. You cannot make that connection. I suffer from depression and the last thing I want to do is go on a shooting spree.
Age limit can be dismantled too. Plenty of people over 25 or 30 kill too. I don't think someone hellbent on killing is going to feel less likely to kill if they realize they can't obtain a gun until they reach a certain age. I'm not saying I disagree. I'm saying this is a band-aid for the inevitable.
And finally, the amount of guns a person owns can be dismantled too. You can own 100 guns, but if you're going to commit mass murder, you can't bring all 100 guns with you.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;14749452]Proposals have been thrown out for years, even decades now.
1. Deeper background checks, look into mental health background, drug prespcriptions etc. This shooter was probably on anti-depressants and could have been flagged from that.
2. Look into illegal drug and addiction history. Has the person been in treatment for drug abuse, etc. If you are being treated for meth addiction you shouldn't be allowed to purchase an AR15.
3. Raise age limits, this can be vary based on firearm type. 30+ to purchase assault weapons, 25+ an all firearms. This is no longer the wild west, 18 year olds don't need guns.
4. Regulate based on primary residence. Rural home owners have more options than urban homeowners. If you live in the city you don't need 20+ rifles.
5. Regulate the total number of guns allowed to own. No single person needs enough guns for an army.
6. Ban all gadget type devises like bump stocks, enormous clips, etc
7. Run buy back programs, this cleans black market guns off the streets.
And I'm not opposed to solutions offered by the gun nuts either. More security at schools is a good idea. Let's do all of it. It won't solve the issue 100% but it will decrease the amount of total deaths. It's time to stop being tribal about this and do something real.[/QUOTE]
1. We all agree to this. No one with mental issues like the shooter should own a gun.
2. This is the same as #1
3. Age limits do not limit a shooter, the shooter here is 28 years old. Limiting the total amount of firearms will do NOTHING. Recent shooters have 5-10 guns, your limits solve nothing
4. same as #3
5. again same as #3
6. california has all of these regulations in place, yet look at what happened in Monterey Park
7. Now I know you are a joke. This is the same as selling drugs to the government as a buy back program
guns are only part of the equation. guns or no guns, people find a way to kill. guns are just convenient. stricter gun laws may prolong a premeditated shooting or force the shooter to go another route to kill people, but ultimately they're gonna get the job done. bombs, vehicles, whatever.
unfortunately, this is ingrained into our culture at this point. i wonder how many potential shooters there are right now who saw this shooting on the news and are contemplating their chance. it doesn't take much for someone who's 'had it up to here' to snap.
The answer as always is better mental health care. There are other countries that haven’t banned guns that don’t have the problem the US does with shootings so guns being legal isn’t the cause. Additionally, banning guns for everyone besides law enforcement makes a fascist takeover very easy
[QUOTE=RRR3;14749487]The answer as always is better mental health care. There are other countries that haven’t banned guns that don’t have the problem the US does with shootings so guns being legal isn’t the cause. Additionally, banning guns for everyone besides law enforcement makes a fascist takeover very easy[/QUOTE]
republicans don't want to propose any sort of universal hc program and to be fair, neither do dems.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14749487]The answer as always is better mental health care. There are other countries that haven’t banned guns that don’t have the problem the US does with shootings so guns being legal isn’t the cause. Additionally, banning guns for everyone besides law enforcement makes a fascist takeover very easy[/QUOTE]
Well said, RRR3.
(things you thought I would never say)
Other countries have mental health care issues but they do not come close to the gun related violence in 'Murica.
The problem is the all too easy access to guns.
And the Republicans non-response?
Calls for a Christian revival.
This shooting took place in a Christian school.
Where was Jesus?
On a cigarette break?
[QUOTE=Lakers Legend#32;14749528]And the Republicans non-response?
Calls for a Christian revival.
This shooting took place in a Christian school.
Where was Jesus?
On a cigarette break?[/QUOTE]
What in God's name are you babbling about??
[QUOTE=Gruppenführer;14749530]What in God's name are you babbling about??[/QUOTE]
this guy throws everything against the wall and hopes something sticks. When it sticks, he has jasper, blade, axe, retard3, off the hinge defend his point
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14749441]The usual non-argument from the dumb anti-gun crowd.
Explain to us what stricter gun laws is. What does "stricter gun laws" mean to you? It's comical how you say it's obvious stricter gun laws would significantly lower the rate of these shootings, but Neanderthals such as yourself never truly explain what that is. Just another buzz word or buzz phrase to spout so you can feel like you're doing something about it.[/QUOTE]
You realize homicide rates are higher in states with weaker gun laws right genius? :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14749444]Oof, this ape now CAPITALIZED the word STRICTER so we can all know that he means business. But again, this is such an empty statement without meaning.
But of course we know exactly what Salty Bitchballs is talking about. He's talking about a gun ban. This clown ain't fooling anyone.[/QUOTE]
Please show me where I implied banning all guns because I explicitly said I don't support banning all guns. You'd be a complete dumb **** to think that having stricter gun laws wouldn't lower the rate of mass shootings.
And the fact that you sound like you care more about guns than the possibility of reducing the deaths of innocent people shows what kind of shitty person you really are. But then again, im not really surprised