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[QUOTE] Tony Jones: In a move that was expected, The [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Utah Jazz have informed point guard Kris Dunn they are guaranteeing his contract for the upcoming season,[/URL] League Sources tell The Athletic. Dunn has played well since coming to the Jazz last season. The former lotto pick finds a home
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
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no brainer. See if they are smart enough to start him now
[QUOTE] The [URL="https://www.nba.com/jazz/news/utah-jazz-sign-and-waive-isaiah-miller"]Utah Jazz have signed and subsequently waived guard Isaiah Miller[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.nba.com/jazz/news/utah-jazz-sign-and-waive-isaiah-miller"]Gabby Hundman @ NBA.com[/URL]
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a pg for the Stars
George/Miller
Christopher/Langford/Devoe/Kinsey
Sensabaugh/Juzang/Justice
Hendricks/Hauser(not sure if he can still play with the Stars or nor?)
Potter/Ongenda
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/21/the-utah-jazz-should-hold-off-on-trading-talen-horton-tucker-until-a-bigger-contract-can-be-brought-back-in-exchange/[/url]
[QUOTE]And Horton-Tucker should be traded. As we wrote before, the only reason for him to start in the preseason was to try and entice teams to acquire him in a deal. He’s not better than Jordan Clarkson or Collin Sexton scoring the ball, and Kris Dunn, someone he’s in direct competition with is better defensively and has become a more reliable scorer than Horton-Tucker.
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Ideally he'd be playing instead of The Bum until George is ready. If there's a trade make it. Don't want Lavine
[URL]https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/21/utah-jazz-preseason-complete-learn-team-anything/[/URL]
[QUOTE]Sadly, the answer was no. Collin Sexton, Kris Dunn, and Keyonte George didn’t do enough to take the job outright, though Dunn was the most consistent of the trio. Talen-Horton Tucker, on the other hand, showed enough passing skill and defense to take the job, for the time being. Collin Sexton will likely be the first guard off the bench most nights.
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Dunn certainly looks like he should start with Agbaji to me
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/22/the-5-utah-jazz-players-who-have-the-most-to-prove-this-season/3/[/url]
[QUOTE]He may not be better than former Jazz, current T-Wolves’ center Rudy Gobert currently, but many believe he isn’t far behind (if he’s behind at all). And that’s just off of one year, where he wasn’t even the starter for a lot of the season. Now, he has to prove that his rookie year wasn’t some fluke.
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yet to show he can guard in space :facepalm
The [URL="https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/273430/Jazz-Exercise-24-25-Options-On-Walker-Kessler-Ochai-Agbaji"]Utah Jazz have exercised team options for 24-25 on the rookie scale contracts of guard Ochai Agbaji and center Walker Kessler[/URL].
– via [URL="https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/273430/Jazz-Exercise-24-25-Options-On-Walker-Kessler-Ochai-Agbaji"]RealGM[/URL]
[QUOTE] Tony Jones: The [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Jazz informed forward Luka Samanic that he will be on the opening night roster,[/URL] which increase his contract guarantee to $600k……a nice story for Samanic, who came to the Jazz late last season. Today was his cut/guarantee date. He has another in January
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
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still waiting on Yurtseven I guess? Can't imagine they would cut him but they do have plenty of bigs
[url]https://kslsports.com/506498/utah-jazz-questions-remain-as-season-opener-nears/[/url]
[QUOTE]Talen Horton-Tucker started all five preseason games for the Jazz, and was the team’s second-leading minute-getter, perhaps a clear indicator that he should be the favorite to start on opening night.
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might just have wanted more of a look at him or to showcase him for others? To me he's behind Dunn, Agbaji, Sexton. I'd have him ahead of The Bum but they won't
[QUOTE]Conversely, Kris Dunn never started but was by far the Jazz’s most efficient guard, he looked comfortable initiating the offense and is the team’s best perimeter defender.
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Best finisher and best leader. Anyone but him starting is a joke!
[QUOTE]At this point, the only major surprise would be if George earned a starting spot on opening night. Otherwise, there’s evidence to support Horton-Tucker, Sexton, Clarkson, and Dunn all earning those spots.
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You forgot Agbaji who should start with Dunn
[QUOTE]Every NBA team wants to space the floor, but can Kessler do it well enough to help the Jazz this season? More success early in the year would go a long way toward confirming its effectiveness in his arsenal.
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I'd guess you will see it to open up Collins at the rim at times
[QUOTE]Dunn, Horton-Tucker, and George appear to be the frontrunners in a ten-man rotation based on preseason play.
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George hasn't earned it
[QUOTE]That would leave newcomer Omer Yurtseven out of the frontcourt rotation and would exclude Luka Samanic and Simone Fontecchio, both of whom finished last season showing improvement in their games.
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I'd imagine Omer at times against certain matchups.
How long until The Bum is traded is the biggest question?
[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/predictions-win-total-hardy-hardware-more/[/url]
[QUOTE]Why then would year two of that squad, under year two of coach Will Hardy, with year two of Lauri Markkanen as an All-Star and year two of Walker Kessler lead the Jazz to dip below that mark, let alone 34 wins?
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No Conley though I think Dunn can replace some of that if he plays and The Bum not miss as many games
[QUOTE][URL="https://saltcityhoops.com/keyonte-georges-blueprint-for-winning-rookie-of-the-year/"]Keyonte George wants Rookie of the Year[/URL], but I’m not sure if he’s ever met Victor Wembanyama. There’s some buzz for John Collins to give the Jazz back-to-back Most Improved Player hardware, but I’m not ready to hop on that bet yet. What I want to do is claim this as the year Markkanen gets on an All-NBA team. Last year the big man was just outside of the top 15 by two spots. If the Jazz are to take a leap, it will be because the Finnisher continues his ascent into stardom, something that is reasonable to expect if he stays healthy and remains confident.
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and they aren't tanking after the trade deadline again which very well could be the case
[QUOTE]Clarkson scored 45 points, his career high, two seasons ago after he went 7-13 from deep against the Sacramento Kings. Last year, he never eclipsed 40, as the season high was a 38-point performance against the 76ers, when he interestingly went 3-12 from deep. I’m willing to bet big this year, he tops the half-dollar and gets a 50-nugget game.
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what is interesting about it? That he only missed 9 3's?
[QUOTE]Picking for JC again, he needs just 43 more threes made to pass up Gordon Hayward for 4th on the all-time leaderboard. Let’s say he does so in 50 games, that would put him at 300 games in a Jazz jersey while it took Hayward 516 to get to his spot on the board.
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and one was a hell of a ball player and the other is A Bum
[QUOTE]Collin Sexton, Talen Horton-Tucker, and Kris Dunn will each take a turn as starting point guard this season. In fact, let’s get crazy: why not say that George and Clarkson will as well?
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because The Bum sucks? Could see George being the guy before March
[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/positive-takeaways-from-jazz-preseason/[/url]
[QUOTE]He only played the first half of each game, and there was no reason for him to play a second more other than helping him to stay warmed up for the start of the season. In 20 minutes per game, he averaged 16.8 points and 8 rebounds. His per 36 minute averages (he averaged close to 35 minutes last season), were 28.8 points and 13.8 rebounds. Considering he only shot 30.8 percent from three-point range compared to his career 37 percent mark, it’s looking like there is a real chance his scoring could even top his career high of 25.6 points from last season.
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started slow from 3 last year as well
[QUOTE]While he won’t be the opening night starter, Key has already shown enough to earn consistent rotational minutes. Those minutes will give him invaluable experience and could ultimately lead to him being the Jazz starting point guard before the season is over. Taken with the 16th pick in the draft, the Jazz might have gotten the steal of the draft.
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Who has he earned minutes over other than The Bum? I'm not seeing it. He should be with the Stars to start the year
[QUOTE]This was the biggest question mark coming into the season for the Utah Jazz. Who was going to be the starting point guard? Something that became obvious during the preseason though is that the question of who will be our starting point guard is not there due to a lack of talent. Utah lacks a standout, clear-cut starter, but every potential point guard on the roster seems to have legitimate strengths that will help the team to be successful. While each guard has some clear strengths, but some obvious flaws as well.
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clearly Dunn
[QUOTE]Clarkson seems to be the best of the guards. He is coming off a season scoring 20 points per game to go along with 4 assists. Whenever he is on the floor, it just feels like the offense is less bogged down because he has the ability to create for himself at any time but has also really seemed to grow as a facilitator.
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4 guys standing around while one dribbles and throws up prayers is beautiful to watch :facepalm
[QUOTE]Kris Dunn is clearly a fan favorite and many are clamoring for the Jazz to make him their starting point guard. For a player who doesn’t look to shoot very often, he runs the offense very well and seems to have a positive impact. There is just something about the way he plays that seems to settle the team. He is also a suffocating defender. Outside of Walker Kessler, Dunn is the best defensive player on the Jazz roster, and it’s probably closer than we realize. All that said, he doesn’t shoot. During the preseason, he attempted only five shots per game and shot 84 percent, because he only takes shots when there isn’t another option and he knows he can make them. Hard to win with a point guard who doesn’t seem to want to shoot the ball.
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until Kessler shows he can guard in space Dunn is their best defender. They have plenty of guys that will shoot. Having one that gets others the ball is welcome in my book
[QUOTE]That’s five legitimate ball-handling guard options for the Jazz, and they are all positive impact players, despite their flaws. The Jazz would love to have a Damian Lillard, Jrue Holiday, Donovan Mitchell level point guard, but the question mark revolving around the point guard position is not because they don’t have talent at the position.
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If Mitchell was a pg we'd still be talking about Gobert and Mitchell but we're not
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/23/ksl-named-top-50-players-utah-jazz-players-time-no-1-pick-right-call/[/url]
[QUOTE]And all three of these men can make equal claims to such spots against the broader NBA landscape. All three men could easily take claim to be the best the team ever had, and that’s probably why KSL ranked all three men in the Top 3 of their Top 50 list.
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Pete has no claim. Stockton, Malone, Gobert, Dantley, Pete, Deron than you can take whomever you choose
[QUOTE]Honestly, seeing Mark Eaton, Adrian Dantley, Maravich, Stockton, and Malone in the Top 10, is not surprising, even if you don’t agree with where some of the names fell. Seeing Andrei Kirilenko, Carlos Boozer, Deron Williams, Rudy Gobert, and Donovan Mitchell also in the Top 10 is rather surprising.
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No one outside of the statues had close to the impact as Gobert. Not surprising that they had Mitchell and others over him though :facepalm
[QUOTE]Not that they don’t deserve it. It’s just wild seeing more modern names etching their position in the upper echelon of the team’s history. Especially since Kirilenko bridged the gap from Malone and Stockton to Williams and Boozer, who then bridged it to Gordon Hayward (#14), who then bridged it to Gobert and Mitchell.
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Hayward was hardly a bridge for Gobert. The team sucked until Gobert made them good despite the supposed greatness of Hayward, Favors, Kanter and Burks :roll:
Jason Anderson: The [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Sacramento Kings are listing Chris Duarte as questionable for Wednesday’s season opener against the Utah Jazz due to left knee soreness, but the team is optimistic he will play.[/URL] Trey Lyles is out with a left calf strain. Utah doesn’t have anyone on its injury report.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/JandersonSacBee"]Twitter JandersonSacBee[/URL]
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2023/10/24/23927463/utah-jazz-must-make-playoffs-otherwise-season-would-be-failure-for-the-2023-24-season-nba[/url]
[QUOTE][h=2]If they can’t make the playoffs, or at least the play-in, something has gone terribly wrong[/h][/QUOTE]
You mean like A Bum being one of their featured players?
[QUOTE]Jazz coach [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2023/4/8/23671989/will-hardy-utah-jazzs-success"]Will Hardy[/URL] was looking like a mastermind. Following a summer of huge trades and roster turnover, he got the newly put together team to play fast and play for each other, leading to a [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2023/2/17/23591350/utah-jazz-rookie-walker-kessler-lauri-markkanen-participating-nba-all-star-weekend"]breakout season for Lauri Markkanen and rookie Walker Kessler[/URL].
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if it wasn't for The Bum starting he'd look like a mastermind
[QUOTE]If 37 wins was possible with Rudy Gay and Jarred Vanderbilt and Udoka Azubuike while Markkanen and Clarkson were watching in street clothes, then this year’s team, if healthy — with the continued success of the returning players and the addition of John Collins, Kris Dunn and Keyonte George — should be able to cobble together a handful of wins that would push them into a playoff berth.
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Unless Dunn is allowed to replace Conley it could get ugly
[QUOTE]I find it hard to believe that inserting Markkanen and Clarkson back into the lineup at the end of the year wouldn’t have netted the Jazz another five wins at least. Adding to that, I think this team is better than the post-trade deadline Jazz of last season, and so do the players — even the ones that have yet to play in a regular-season game with the Jazz.
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inserting The Bum helps no one
[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/group-scoring-trades-brigde/[/url]
[QUOTE][B][URL="https://twitter.com/danclayt0n"]Dan Clayton[/URL][/B]: Contrarian take here: I actually think there’s a solid chance it’s Collin Sexton. Clarkson has evolved impressively over his Jazz career, but John Collins’ arrival probably evens things out a bit behind Markkanen, especially within the starting group. Meanwhile, Sexton will be a designated defense-buster off the bench. His per-36 average last year (21.5) was actually right in line with his career figure (21.8) so I think as his minutes normalize he could easily jump. And while Clarkson’s raw numbers will likely be affected by some amount of democratization in the first unit, Sexton will play alongside sometimes-reluctant shooters like Kris Dunn, Ochai Agbaji, Kelly Olynyk and whichever of Simone Fontecchio/Luka Samanic finds himself in the 10th man role most often. That sounds like a recipe for a whole lot of Sexton.
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we don't actually know who's starting and coming off the bench and it could change through 20 games according to the coach. Anyone other than The Bum is great though
[QUOTE][B]Mark[/B]: Sexton. I feel pretty alone on an island with my belief in Sexton as a burgeoning playmaker. [URL="https://saltcityhoops.com/can-collin-sexton-be-the-guy-to-run-the-show/"]Smart[/URL] [URL="https://saltcityhoops.com/sextons-on-ball-scoring-knack-points-to-possibilities/"]people[/URL] have rightfully pointed out Sexton’s legitimate success as a scoring on-ball guy while noting his deficiencies as a passer, but I see more. Learning to play NBA point guard is so difficult. The top-tier guys already have the skill from day one, but lots of good point guards needed years of digestion of developmental minutes to exhibit real showrunning ability. Sexton can create so much space off the dribble, and learning real passing from those advantages will be easier. This will also be Sexton’s first fully-healthy season with the Jazz, and his first season /ever/ playing for a not-garbage team. His very high “give-a-shit” level matters, too. [/QUOTE]
I thought he looked like that guy after Conley was traded. He learned a lot. But Dunn should start and Sexton off the bench
[QUOTE][B]Clark[/B]: Sexton and Talen Horton-Tucker for Gordon Hayward.
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would be funny if Hayward was back here
[QUOTE][B]Steve[/B]: It has to involve the guards. With playing time needed for Sexton, THT and Dunn, it doesn’t seem like there is enough pie at the table. I can also foresee Keyonte George pulling up a chair. If he develops and is ready that quickly, the Jazz will be shopping some guards elsewhere. Did I answer the question? I don’t know, but I’ll also say this: I don’t think the big trade with all the picks and assets happens in-season this year.
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Olybyk and Collins could go too. How long will they continue to try to play big? Hendricks and Sensabaugh will need time eventually as well
[QUOTE][B]Clark[/B]: Seven: Markkanen, George, Hendricks, Walker Kessler, Brice Sensabaugh, Clarkson, Abagji.
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Won't be going anywhere as long as The Bum is around
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/24/ranking-every-utah-jazz-player-by-how-impactful-they-can-be-this-year/[/url]
[QUOTE]Christopher isn’t a great shooter and is already on his second team after just being drafted a couple of years ago. He’s got some issues as a prospect. For Potter, he’s coming in second. He’s a solid rebounder, but he isn’t athletic enough to make up for a lack of refined shooting. Then there’s Juzang, the most likely of the three to see any real-time on the pro squad.
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I'll go with the guy that could still be in college and was a 1st round pick :facepalm
[QUOTE]This means that Yurteven is basically just sitting on his hands for most games. He’s a solid defender, and a decent rebounder but he isn’t really doing much else to get eyes on him. He’s a fine backup but unless someone gets hurt, Yurtseven isn’t likely to see many minutes or make any meaningful impact.
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he'll get minutes when they play some of the bigger centers in the league I imagine
[QUOTE]Simone Fontecchio looked good in the FIBA World Cup, helping lead Italy to a nice showing. There was some belief from us that he may crack into the rotation with how well he played but that doesn’t seem likely to happen. Unlike some on the team, Fontecchio isn’t that far down the depth chart. He’s right behind[URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/17/5-realistic-trade-targets-for-the-utah-jazz-some-point-this-season/"] Lauri Markkanen[/URL] and maybe Ochai Agbaji, depending on if the team feels Agbaji can replace Markkanen for a spell.
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pretty sure Agbaji will get most of those minutes until Hendricks or Sensabaugh do anyway
[QUOTE]Despite being buried further behind the starter than someone like Omer Yurtseven, Luka Samanic may find more minutes to play due to those ahead of him. Samanic is the team’s third-best power forward, just behind[URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/17/5-realistic-trade-targets-for-the-utah-jazz-some-point-this-season/"] Taylor Hendricks[/URL] and starter John Collins. Samanic isn’t going to get minutes over Hendricks, as Hendricks is a vaunted prospect (and Samanic is not). And he’s not going to get minutes over Collins, as he’s the new addition the team is quite excited about.
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Lauri is their best 4. Samanic they see as more of a 3 I think
[QUOTE]He is only (ha, only), 6’6, so he’s likely not an option at power forward and definitely not at center. So he’s limited to just perimeter positions. And due to the fact he isn’t a strong ball-handler and isn’t a great passer, he isn’t a point guard. So he’s stuck playing just the shooting guard and small [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/17/5-realistic-trade-targets-for-the-utah-jazz-some-point-this-season/"]forward positions.[/URL]
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not too hard to imagine in today's NBA in smaller lineups and certainly in the Gleague where he will be
[QUOTE]Dunn is everything Horton-Tucker is, but better. He’s a better defender, better rebounder, better passer, and even a better scorer. The only reason why it makes sense for Horton-Tucker to start over Dunn is because the team is trying to trade Horton-Tucker.
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wouldn't say he's a better scorer. If he wanted to be he might but he doesn't want to be
[QUOTE][URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/17/5-realistic-trade-targets-for-the-utah-jazz-some-point-this-season/"]If he can keep[/URL] his shot falling at a consistent rate and become the perimeter defender needed to pair with Walker Kessler, Agbaji may not be a bench player for very much longer.
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he should be starting
[QUOTE][URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/17/5-realistic-trade-targets-for-the-utah-jazz-some-point-this-season/"]Speaking of[/URL] the second-best scorer, have we talked about Jordan Clarkson? Clarkson, as we’ve mentioned before, is Collin Sexton’s final evolution. As with Sexton, Clarkson really only does one thing very well; sore. But unlike Sexton who doesn’t shoot many threes or has spells where he’s inconsistent, Clarkson does in fact shoot threes and hardly ever has a long cold snap.
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he's cold a lot more than he's hot :roll:
[QUOTE]So yes, Clarkson isn’t elite from three, but he is from inside the arc. He’s a career 51% from inside the three-point line and it shows, namely in last year’s Sixth Man of the Year Award. He can be a genuine difference-maker on offense. If he’s able to play solid defense, which would be a year-to-year improvement for Clarkson, then the Jazz may even see Clarkson make the All-Star team in 2024.
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:oldlol:
[url]https://sircharlesincharge.com/2023/10/24/nba-wrap-around-primer-teams/14/[/url]
[QUOTE][h=3]Utah Jazz[/h] [LEFT][B][I]Starting Lineup
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[/LEFT] Collin Sexton
Jordan Clarkson
Lauri Markkanen
John Collins
Walker Kessler
[LEFT][B][I]Key Bench Players
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[/LEFT] Keyonte George
Ochai Agbaji
Talen Horton-Tucker
Taylor Hendricks
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Pretty sure Olynyk will play and Dunn should
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50765183/keyonte-george-feels-like-he-belongs-after-jazzs-season-opening-loss-to-kings[/url]
[QUOTE]"To be completely honest with you, I feel like I belong," George said. "Since we've been playing, I think that was the most comfortable I've ever been in an NBA basketball game."
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he looked better than the preseason
[url]https://kslsports.com/506594/how-did-talen-horton-tucker-win-starting-job-for-jazz/[/url]
[QUOTE]“Talen pairs well with Jordan, and Jordan is very much a good pairing with Lauri because he provides a second threat offensively, a second ball handler, a second playmaker, kind of a second focal point of the offense,” the coach explained. “So when we made the determination that Jordan was going to play with Lauri, Talen was the best fit to play with Jordan.”
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too bad The Bum sucks
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/25/2023-2024-utah-jazz-season-guide-preview/2/[/url]
[QUOTE]The team is also not deep at the center position. [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/24/ranking-every-utah-jazz-player-by-how-impactful-they-can-be-this-year/"]Walker Kessler[/URL] is on the rise and Kelly Olynyk is a very good backup, but should either get hurt or see foul minutes, then you may have to turn to Omer Yurtseven who hasn’t looked great this preseason.
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He's looked fine and you'd have Lauri and Collins as well as Potter
[QUOTE]Beyond that, we think there’s going to be some hardware coming to the Utah Jazz. While we’re not picking Walker Kessler for winning the Defensive Player of the Year Award, we are expecting him to make the 2nd Team All-Defensive Team. We think he’s a true gem in the NBA and a difference-maker on defense.
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yet to show he can guard in space and the Fact that his minutes were limited last night I presume because of the matchup says a lot
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2023/10/26/23934011/takeaways-from-the-utah-jazz-opening-game-highlights-analysis-2023-season[/url]
[QUOTE][h=2][B]The Jazz starting lineup might be really bad[/B][/h][/QUOTE]
The Bum alone is awful. Talen wasn't even in the rotation last year until they went into tank mode after the deadline.
[QUOTE]One of the most glaring things from the Jazz’s first game was the disparity of 3-pt attempts. The Sacramento Kings took 58 threes compared to Utah taking 28. The percentages weren’t far off either at 37% and 32% respectively. As Will Hardy mentioned that becomes a math problem at some point and that’s hard to overcome. With all the shooting on this Jazz team, there’s no reason they can’t take things to another level. The question is, is it possible with the current starting lineup? What we saw last night was the starting guards unable to set up their shooters with threes. Over the next set of games we’ll see if the starting lineup can improve. If not, the need to make some changes.
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Dunn will set guys up for 3's and Agbaji(or Sexton) unlike The Bum will hit 3's
[QUOTE]Consider this the beginning of the campaign for Keyonte George to become the starting point guard for the Utah Jazz (that’s probably too large for a sign). When George had the ball, great things happened. He was surprisingly poised in a chippy, sometimes violent game, and was also efficient (3/5 from the field). What’s better is the offense flowed while he ran the show with players getting into their actions. Open threes were finally being taken! It’s one game and it was against a Sacramento defense that isn’t known for being great, but it was a great sign and should start the momentum to get him his starting role, one he probably should have already.
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He looked good but based on pre-season he shouldn't have even been playing. Let's not rush things
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/26/big-letdown-utah-jazz-look-bad-tonight/[/url]
[QUOTE]Will Hardy needed to call timeouts a few times to settle the troops, but refused to do so. He needs to improve at this and realize when things are getting out of hand.
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might have us another COTM that is a lot smarter than all of us?
[QUOTE]Lauri Markkanen needs to do a better job on the perimeter. Steph Curry goes 5-7 on the night, you take it because it could’ve been 9-11. If Harrison Barnes goes 5-7 on the night, you have to start wondering where your life went wrong. It’s not all on Markkanen, team defense in the NBA never is all on one guy, but Markkanen has to play better on defense. Now, we say that to say this; he had a solid offensive night. He had a double-double with 19 points and 10 rebounds, two steals an assist, and looked comfortable all night on offense. There are going to be nights like this from Markkanen on defense, as he’s not going to be as quick as every forward he faces, but he balanced out a shoddy defensive outing with a very solid offensive one.
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I wouldn't expect much defensively from a 7 footer playing the 3
[QUOTE]As with Lauri Markkanen, there were struggles from the defense and he and John Collins had to carry that. Collins got beaten up by Domantas Sabonis, and that’s not in dispute. He, however, did play much better offensively than he previously did in the preseason. 15 points, 11 rebounds, two assists, and a steal; not a bad stat line. Shore up the defense, and the Jazz may have something with Collins in the lineup.
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most of that was in the 1st half
[QUOTE]If Jordan Clarkson’s defense was cheese, it’d be Swiss, because there’s nothing but holes in it. That said, he had a wonderfully efficient offensive night. He led the team in scoring, putting up 24 points, had a nice six assists to only two turnovers, and shot 50% on the night. He’s not a good defender at all, case in point the 51 three-point shots the Kings attempted, but he did his job which is to produce offense. Is he the answer as a starter? Maybe not with the rotation as is, but no one can say he wasn’t as good of a version of Jordan Clarkson as he could be. We know what he is and what he isn’t and this is the best Clarkson can really be.
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and he's not going to be that good usually
[QUOTE]Four turnovers in a game is abysmal, especially when you play fewer than 20 minutes. Admittedly, [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/24/kris-dunn-grateful-utah-jazz-grateful/"]Kris Dunn[/URL] played fine, but for as many people, ourselves included, who advocate for him to be the team’s starting point guard, he can’t keep turning the ball over.
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play him with the starters and I bet he looks a lot better
[QUOTE]The defense [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/25/nba-expansion-coming-will-affect-utah-jazz/"]was bad.[/URL] Just pure bad. The Sacramento Kings shot 51 three-point shots. Read that number again, because it’s unbelievable. That’s bad enough. What’s even worse is how two of their starting forwards went ham on the Utah Jazz’s defense. Harrison Barnes was taking some very easy-looking shots, and Domantas Sabonis looked like his father and Nikola Jokic rolled into one. Walker Kessler played just 22 minutes because of how little impact he was having on the game on his own. And it’s not all on him. When you have a starting five that includes Talen Horton-Tucker and Jordan Clarkson, and then you play Keyonte George and Collin Sexton; of course, you’re going to give up a lot of points. Will Hardy is supposed to be a smart coach, yet we’re left wondering why he thought this lineup was going to do anything against the Sacramento Kings.
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His love of The Bum says it all
[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/game-one-overreactions-and-observations/[/url]
[QUOTE]Sabonis is a tough matchup across the entire NBA, but you’d hope that Kessler could’ve done better when faced with a small-ball threat. Looking closer, the stats show that the Kings went 3-for-4 from deep with Kessler as the primary defender on an outside shooter. The Kings also went 10-for-17 (58%) everywhere else on the court when Kessler was the closest defender.
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which is why the all D/DPOTY is way premature. He has yet to show he can guard in space
[QUOTE]The Jazz also tried out the 3-guard, and even the 4-guard, lineups. [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/UTA/2024.html"]Basketball Reference[/URL] pointed out that Agbaji primarily played small forward for most of his minutes (around 79% and then 21% at power forward) and George played some small forward as well (22%), even JC had a turn (3%).
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figured Agbaji would get most of the minutes behind Lauri at the 3
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2023/10/27/23932858/observations-from-utah-jazz-first-outing[/url]
[QUOTE]Last night, Utah couldn’t even hang their hat on smart shots. 60% of the Jazz’s shots came from 3 or at the rim. Now compare that to Sacramento’s 71%. A perfect example was a 3rd quarter, contested floater by Clarkson amid three defenders which missed and was immediately followed by a wide-open, swished transition 3 from De’Aaron Fox.
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typical Bum
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/27/we-already-have-to-talk-about-the-utah-jazzs-lineup-and-rotation/[/url]
[QUOTE]Sexton, Clarkson and Horton-Tucker? You can’t keep all three, and play George and expect good efforts on defense. It’s not going to happen. The team won’t survive with the Jazz playing three guys who are known for not playing good defense, and a rookie while rotating them all through at such a vital position. And this isn’t a “well, it’s the first game of the season, don’t overreact”, because we know that those there men don’t play well on defense.
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Tucker is supposedly starting because of his defensive potential.. Sexton plays hard at that end
[QUOTE]That’s why there has to be someone to tug on Will Hardy’s ear and tell him that the Jazz need to start Kris Dunn and Ochai Agbaji over Horton-Tucker and Clarkson. The team should look for trade offers for Sexton and Horton-Tucker, and return Clarkson to the sixth-man role where he can shoot at will and play the minimal defense we expect from him.
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Agreed on the starters but The Bum needs to go and either Sexton or Tucker
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/27/the-utah-jazz-are-going-to-have-a-problem-winning-while-playing-6-guards/[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz need another forward and maybe another power forward or center. There’s no reason to be playing the likes of Horton-Tucker or George when you have better, more season, and more consistent players ahead of them.
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they have plenty of bigs. Need wings. Lauri isn't a wing
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/27/utah-jazz-protect-nba-expansion-draft/[/url]
The Bum if he's still here and Sexton or Collins probably
Shams Charania: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Suns star Bradley Beal (back) will miss Saturday’s home opener vs. Jazz and Devin Booker (foot) is expected to be doubtful to play for second straight game[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania"]Twitter ShamsCharania[/URL]
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2023/10/28/23927497/jordan-clarkson-locks-up-kawhi-leonard-to-help-jazz-beat-clippers[/url]
[QUOTE]Hardy’s point about Clarkson continuing to grow is one that should not be overlooked. We have a lot of evidence to support the assertion that Clarkson is able to do just about anything that could be asked of him.
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about everything but not suck. Let's not forget he had a typical Bum performance of bricks and pounding the ball into submission while his teammates stood around watching
[url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/karolis-lukosiunas-1.html[/url]
1st round pick of the Stars. Doesn't look like much on paper. Can shoot a bit. A guard. 6'5
[url]https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4067770/isaac-johnson[/url]
2nd round pick. 6'9 PF i guess. Not much of a shooter. Rebounds. Can pass a bit. Got some steals so maybe plays D?
Miller/Langford
Christopher/Devoe/Kinsey/[SIZE=3]Lukosiunas[/SIZE]
Sensabaugh/Juzang/Justice
Hendricks/Johnson/Hauser(not sure if he can still play with the Stars or nor?)
Potter/Ongenda
Not sure who made it from their tryout last month. I imagine camp starts anyday? They play in a couple weeks
Andy Larsen: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Taylor Hendricks, Brice Sensabaugh, Johnny Juzang, Micah Potter, and Josh Christopher are all out for tonight, as they’ve been assigned to the G-League SLC Stars[/URL]. Collin Sexton is also listed as probable, due to a right wrist strain.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/andyblarsen"]Twitter andyblarsen[/URL]
[url]https://kslsports.com/506791/jazz-fall-in-first-road-game-against-suns/[/url]
[QUOTE]However, with the increasingly impressive play from rookie Keyonte George who scored 12 points, grabbed seven rebounds, and dished out six assists in 27 minutes against Phoenix, the leash for Horton-Tucker can’t be long.
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as long as as The Bum is allowed his unlimited leash than a 22 year old ought to have a pretty long one too
[QUOTE][B]The Jared Butler ‘[URL="https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612762/players-traditional?Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Pre%20Season&dir=D&sort=PTS"]This Ain’t the Preseason Anymore[/URL]‘ Award goes to:[/B]
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could give it to George. He has been a lot better though the 2nd half last night wasn't that good. Great 1st half!
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2023/10/29/23927498/utah-jazz-phoenix-suns-walker-kessler-early-season-struggles-and-john-collins-in-game-savvy[/url]
[QUOTE]I don’t think that anyone is concerned about Kessler at this point because it’s only three games into the season and he’s playing with some new guys. His timing is a little off and he’s had a few bad nights. I’m confident that he’ll get back to being himself.
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I'd guess it's the new guys especially Collins. Collins is a great rim runner that can shoot the 3 too. Kessler is probably trying to figure out where he should be depending on where Collins is?
[QUOTE]“It’s an undervalued skill, but Kris is really good at it,” Kessler said. “Obviously I haven’t been playing as well as I wanted to, but it’s early so I’m just trying to stay positive.”
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went from a high lottery to the Gleague so he gets it. Probably wouldn't have made it back otherwise
[QUOTE] Andy Larsen: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ochai Agbaji has been diagnosed with a knee contusion,[/URL] is listed as questionable vs. DEN tomorrow.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/andyblarsen"]Twitter andyblarsen[/URL]
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knee on knee. That shit hurts
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/29/keyonte-george-shouldnt-be-getting-minutes-over-ochai-agbaji/[/url]
[QUOTE]He could be the second-best player this season when it’s all said and done, or nearly unplayable; we simply don’t know. All we know is what we’re seeing right now. Simply put, he’s someone who can do well on offense, but he’s a defensive liability. And considering the biggest issue the team is currently facing is its perimeter defense, George just [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/27/we-already-have-to-talk-about-the-utah-jazzs-lineup-and-rotation/"]isn’t a player[/URL] who makes sense to play.
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We know he's getting better and looks like he belongs. Based on pre-season I didn't think he should be playing but he's shown once the lights go on he's a different player. The Bum is the one that shouldn't be playing!
[QUOTE]Not over Ochai Agbaji. Agbaji has seen his minutes decline over the first three games from 19 to 12 to just six minutes of action against the Phoenix Suns. Likewise, George shouldn’t be playing 27 minutes. Not over Agbaji.
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Agbaji got hurt and is mostly playing the 3 because they have too many guards and Bums :facepalm
[QUOTE]George shot 4-12 from the floor in his latest outing against the Suns, a truly terrible night of offense from the rookie. And if that wasn’t bad enough, his defense was nearly as problematic. He’s someone who is going to hurt the team as he plays. If he can’t score consistently to offset his poor defense, then what is he providing the team?
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he was great in the 1st half. Sounds like he got tired in the 2nd half on his first back to back. He was one of their best players in the 1st for sure
[QUOTE]Especially when George is taking shots away from Kelly Olynyk, Simone Fontecciho, Collin Sexton, and Lauri Marrkkanen. Sexton isn’t a great player but he’s a far better scorer than George. He may be worse defensively but George hasn’t exactly proven to be a reliable defender.
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Simone had a good game in garbage time but he's mostly been awful. Kelly doesn't need shots to be good. Not sure Sexton is a worse defender right now. He at least plays hard at that end. George might be their best pg outside Dunn
[QUOTE]George has only proven one thing so far in his very short career; he’s inconsistent. If the goal is to see what the rookies and youngsters can do, tank for a better pick, and worry about competing down the line, okay, play George. But if we’re to believe the players and the coaches that the goal is the playoffs, George shouldn’t be getting minutes.
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The Jazz have mostly been awful in 2 of their 3 games. Who should be getting minutes if not the future of the team? It will pay off later
[QUOTE][URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/27/the-utah-jazz-are-going-to-have-a-problem-winning-while-playing-6-guards/"]Not over Agbaji at least[/URL]. If you want to sit Talen Horton-Tucker, go for it. Give George Horton-Tucker’s minutes. Give George minutes from guys who are either hurting the team or aren’t long for the team. Don’t give George minutes that should be given to guys who can help balance the defense out.
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who are these great defenders that should be playing?
[QUOTE]Agbaji likewise Kris Dunn, and Walker Kessler, need to be given good minutes to help this horrific defensive start. George isn’t a bad prospect, he’s just not ready to contribute in meaningful ways, and if you really intend to compete, then George can’t be the priority.
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Kessler hasn't been good and Dunn who I love hasn't been great either. The Bum sucks period. I'm all for the kid getting time. He belongs
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/29/lauri-markkanen-needs-featured-legit-no-1-scoring-option-utah-jazz-win-games/[/url]
[QUOTE]So far, through three games, the Utah Jazz are far from the playoff team we thought they’d be. They’re among the worst, if not the worst defensively; something we feared could be the case due to their collection of offensive-minded guards, while also a middling, unimpressive offense. The team as a whole isn’t shooting well, and guys we thought would be big contributors to the team, like Ochai Agbaji, are sitting on the bench watching. Even the defensive dynamo that was supposed to be Walker Kessler is playing uninspired ball.[/QUOTE]
Playing a 7 footer at the 3 like it was 1990 has nothing to do with it!
[QUOTE]Clearly, giving guys like Jordan Clarkson, Collin Sexton, and Talen Horton-Tucker 31.4 shots per game isn’t helping this offense. We’re hopeful Clarkson gets better as the season goes on, but Sexton doesn’t shoot threes and Horton-Tucker is the 14th-worst shooter in the league.
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why would you expect The Bum to get better? He's always sucked and is in his 30's now. Sexton can shoot and score. Talen could be a bench piece once The Bum is dealt
[QUOTE]This means either telling the likes of Clarkson, Sexton, and Horton-Tucker to find Markkanen more often or putting in guys who won’t take away from the best shooter on the team. This team’s only victory came when Markkanen out-bodied the opposition and dropped 35 on the Los Angeles Clippers.
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Going to have to put the ball in Dunn's hands. Those guys aren't known for their passing :lol
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/29/simone-fontecchio-may-have-played-himself-into-more-minutes/[/url]
[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz are playing a 10-man rotation right now, with a heavy focus on the guard play for the team. Through the the first three games, the Jazz have played five or six guards in all three games, giving them sizeable minutes. It’s not worked all that well and the team’s defense has suffered. While the focus is still on a poorly advised 10-man rotation, the Jazz did give another forward more time on Saturday against the Phoenix Suns.[/QUOTE]
The Jazz sucked on D last year so blaming it on the guards when they are playing 3 bigs up front in a league where most play one big is laughable
[QUOTE][URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/09/09/with-the-fiba-world-cup-over-for-simone-fontecchio-its-clear-he-deserves-minutes-for-the-utah-jazz/"]The Jazz tapped Simone Fontecchio[/URL] to get some minutes and he made the most of those minutes; playing 18 of them, while having a great night of shooting. Fontecchio went 5-8 from the floor (3-6 from three) while scoring 13 points and bringing in three rebounds. All while posting a BPM of +6; the highest on the Jazz out of anyone.
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much of it was meaningless garbage time
[QUOTE][URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/09/07/simone-fontecchio-shows-his-value-as-a-scorer-by-not-playing/"]The Utah Jazz need size[/URL] on the wings; watching a group of guards who are all closer to 5’11 than they are 6’6 try and guard longer, more established wing players has been brutal. The teams’ defense is the worst in the league and guys like Walker Kessler and Kris Dunn are being exploited due to the lack of team defense around them.
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Simone should be playing the 4 in today's league. That is where the defensive problems start
[QUOTE]Guys like Jordan Clarkson, Collin Sexton, and even Talen Hoton-Tucker are not helping this team stop guys and all three have had some scoring fits as well. Clarkson could bounce back, but the team needs to worry about finding guys who can hit their shots consistently, which is a hard task right now. After all, it’s not just that they’re not hitting their shots, it’s also that they’re not playing good defense either.
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When has The Bum ever done anything consistently other than pound the ball. throw up prayers and brick them? Sexton and Talen are both young and have upside anyway
[QUOTE]Each man may be able to bring something to the table but each of the three lacks a major element of their game that is holding back the team. Fontecchio may also suffer from the lack of a certain skillset, but right now he’s the best option the team has for a quick fix to not only their defense but their three-point shooting woes.
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I believe Simone was the worst player on the team last year that isn't A Bum. He's not the answer to anything but an expiring contract for Ainge