Oh wow, this is interesting. Put on your tin foil hats boys.

You may not remember but 7 years ago during a 9/11 memorial ceremony, Hillary Clinton had to be escorted from the event due to dehydration and fainted right as they were placing her inside the van. Or at least that was the official word from her camp.

The election was only a month and change out. Conservatives said it was proof she wasn't physically fit to run for office. Liberals said it was no big deal and that people faint all the time. For the most part though the story came and went.

You could see the video here. There are several versions currently circulating Youtube.

[video=youtube;TnbDZXoA78k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnbDZXoA78k[/video]

Okay now time to put on your tin foil hat. Are you ready?

I said are you ready?
























Okay. Don't say I didn't warn you.


















There are people saying that this video is not actually of Hillary fainting. They are saying she is being [B]arrested[/B] and [B]detained[/B] either by high ranking US military or a US intelligence agency.

At first I thought it was crazy, but after investigating the video pretty thoroughly, I have to say I'm intrigued.

For one, you can clearly see that her arms are restrained behind her back and her elbows are bent. An elderly woman who is feeling woozy and on the verge of fainting probably wouldn't ever voluntarily position herself like that. One might argue she was just leaning against the concrete pillar for support but at one point she is a few inches away from the pillar and her arms are still positioned behind her back. You get the best look at :31 seconds into the video. It really does look like her hands are restrained.

Then, right at the same time in the video, the woman (or agent) behind Hillary makes a motion right above where Hillary's "restraints" would be. It almost looks like she is setting her loose somehow. Immediately after she cuts Hillary loose, you see and hear a small metal object hit the floor by her right foot. This all occurs from about :31 to :34. Then the bald agent hoists her arm forward and they place her in the van. If this is all correct then she wasn't actually fainting, she was resisting and didn't want to go in the van.

This "theory" has been making the rounds for awhile now. I wasn't even aware of it myself. But if you look at every single version of this video on Youtube, the comments are flooded with people swearing she was being arrested here. Some are crazy Q people insisting she was being sent to Gitmo and that the Hillary we see now is a body double. Others are saying she was just being brought it by her real masters for interrogation of some kind.

But I have to admit, the video does look fishy and does look like she is resisting arrest.

Anyways I thought this was fascinating and wanted to share it.

Why aren't you using your AAK_AAP account anymore? :ohwell:

[QUOTE=Axe;14864424]Why aren't you using your AAK_AAP account anymore? :ohwell:[/QUOTE]

Did someone post this theory before?

If she was arrested you would have heard about it :facepalm

[QUOTE=RRR3;14864430]If she was arrested you would have heard about it :facepalm[/QUOTE]

Wow, what a retarded thing to say. Assuming that's what really happened, you absolutely would not have heard about it. This would suggest there are people pulling the strings at the deepest levels of government you and I aren't even privy to.

You can scoff at the theory all you want and call it crazy Q-nonsense, but to insist that they would actually tell that to the public is batshit retarded.

[QUOTE=Baller234;14864431]Wow, what a retarded thing to say. Assuming that's what really happened, you absolutely would not have heard about it. This would suggest there are people pulling the strings at the deepest levels of government you and I aren't even privy to.

You can scoff at the theory all you want and call it crazy Q-nonsense, but to insist that they would actually tell that to the public is batshit retarded.[/QUOTE]
Only time a federal politician would get arrested is if they were antiestablishment or they had optics so terrible the establishment wanted to get rid of them. In both cases you would obviously hear about it. Tell me how Hillary fits either category :lol

[QUOTE=RRR3;14864433]Only time a federal politician would get arrested is if they were antiestablishment or they had optics so terrible the establishment wanted to get rid of them. Tell me how Hillary fits either category :lol[/QUOTE]

Wow, I didn't think it was possible for someone to be this smooth brained. I can't believe we are even having this argument. It's like you invent new ways to be wrong about a subject.

I was totally prepared for people to mock me and cast this all aside as some crazy conspiracy theory.

I was definitely not prepared for, [B]"Hey! If Hillary Clinton was secretly being brought in by special ops, we would have heard!"[/B]

[IMG]https://media0.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Baller234;14864435]Wow, I didn't think it was possible for someone to be this smooth brained. I can't believe we are even having this argument. It's like you invent new ways to be wrong about a subject.

I was totally prepared for people to mock me and cast this all aside as some crazy conspiracy theory.

I was definitely not prepared for, [B]"Hey! If Hillary Clinton was secretly being brought in by special ops, we would have heard!"[/B]

[IMG]https://media0.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I now you're braindead, but if you could read, you'd see I said that any politician the establishment wanted to arrest would be arrested publicly and for one of two reasons: they were against the establishment or they were just horrible optically. The establishment wouldn't arrest someone for another reason and if they did arrest someone for one of these reasons, they'd do so publicly to make an example of them. Now please tell us how Hillary is either of those things :roll:

I have my doubts theyd do this in broad daylight but its a funny theory :lol

[QUOTE=RRR3;14864439]I now you're braindead, but if you could read, you'd see I said that any politician the establishment wanted to arrest would be arrested publicly and for one of two reasons: they were against the establishment or they were just horrible optically. The establishment wouldn't arrest someone for another reason and if they did arrest someone for one of these reasons, they'd do so publicly to make an example of them. Now please tell us how Hillary is either of those things :roll:[/QUOTE]

Although we don't know for certain, for the sake of argument I'm going to put on my tin foil hat and operate under the assumption that she IS in fact being restrained and is in someone's custody in that clip.

If that's the case, then you're wrongly assuming she's being arrested here in the traditional sense with the intent to prosecute. It's not like she's being brought in by the county sheriff here and taken to the county jail for booking. It would most likely be some type of secret ops, either high ranking military or high ranking intelligence escorting her to god knows where for god knows what reason.

There are several powerful factions at war behind the scenes. For all we know Hillary is just a pawn in someone else's game. Perhaps she is being brought in by an enemy or one of her secret handlers (or blackmailers). The possibilities are endless really. And if that's the case, no they wouldn't fukking tell the public.

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14864447]I have my doubts theyd do this in broad daylight but its a funny theory :lol[/QUOTE]

I have my doubts too but I can't unsee what's in the video. The more I watch it, the more it looks like she's being arrested. Maybe she's too protected at home and this was their best opportunity.

Could be an enemy faction in opposition to Hillary. Could be someone from Trump's faction. Could be a blackmailer of hers. No way to know. All I know is that her arms look restrained and they aren't handling her like an elderly woman in need of medical attention. I also can't ignore the metal object hitting the floor and making a sound just as the woman behind her motions above her wrists.


edit:

Another thing to notice. When the black agent opens the door to the van, Hillary doesn't enter. It looks like she's resisting. If those were really her handlers and they were looking out for her, why isn't she listening to them?

It looks like they were saying "Get in" and she didn't want to. Then when she starts giving them a hard time, they cut her loose and the bald white guy grabs her by her other arm.

[video=youtube;cgraLeT65OA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgraLeT65OA[/video]

From my very good source, the fainting was legit. Hilary is physically ****ed up. But the appearance that she made, a couple of hours later, outside Chelsey's apartment, was a double.

Hillary was barely campaigning, the media giving her a pass on that. If you remember, there were a lot of weird moments, such as when the balloons started falling, and another similar moment when she started doing this weird movement while getting questions from the press.

If Hillary was being arrested in public, then there would be two options. Resist and make a scene, or cooperate. If she were to cooperate, then she would simply get in the van as if nothing was up. Killary just leaving, a non story, no medical episode. If she was not cooperating, then she would be making a scene. Which means that she would not be there standing stiff, her head would be moving from side to side, she would be talking. It would just look different.

Having said that, some of these people, including Hillary, have been arrested, causing them to have to wear a weird boot. McCain even put it on the wrong foot once, and people were like, wtf? I thought it was the other foot that was bad. Biden has had the boot, as well as Jill Biden.

It all sounds strange to us, the public, but we don't know how this hidden power operates.

[QUOTE=jstern;14864508]From my very good source, the fainting was legit. Hilary is physically ****ed up. [B]But the appearance that she made, a couple of hours later, outside Chelsey's apartment, was a double.[/B]

Hillary was barely campaigning, the media giving her a pass on that. If you remember, there were a lot of weird moments, such as when the balloons started falling, and another similar moment when she started doing this weird movement while getting questions from the press.

If Hillary was being arrested in public, then there would be two options. Resist and make a scene, or cooperate. If she were to cooperate, then she would simply get in the van as if nothing was up. Killary just leaving, a non story, no medical episode. If she was not cooperating, then she would be making a scene. Which means that she would not be there standing stiff, her head would be moving from side to side, she would be talking. It would just look different.

Having said that, some of these people, including Hillary, have been arrested, causing them to have to wear a weird boot. McCain even put it on the wrong foot once, and people were like, wtf? I thought it was the other foot that was bad. Biden has had the boot, as well as Jill Biden.

It all sounds strange to us, the public, but we don't know how this hidden power operates.[/QUOTE]

This is what people in the comments are saying as well.

Lol, I'm going to need you to clarify what you mean.

A body double? How? If so, where is the real Hillary lol?

[QUOTE=Baller234;14864552]This is what people in the comments are saying as well.

Lol, I'm going to need you to clarify what you mean.

A body double? How? If so, where is the real Hillary lol?[/QUOTE]

Again, it's difficult to imagine how certain things are done behind the scenes by those who have access to unlimited money and world power, so it's always important to have an open mind. I can only go by my source, but certain people have doubles. Like Uday Hussein, it's all a matter of finding someone that looks similar to the person that needs a double, and then performing surgery. You saw what good of a job they did with Uday, and that was in 1980's Iraq. So imagine how much more advance things are now in 2023 with the backing of this evil power.

[IMG]https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxra4pmu5C1qkwgmqo1_500.jpg[/IMG]

The double is not Hillary, she would not be able to answer questions as her, so was used to make an appearance outside of Chelsey's apartment, wave to the crowd, beaming smile showing that she's healthy. The real Hilliry Clinton getting attended to.

And then finally, this [URL="https://rumble.com/v2hyd4a-proof-of-bidens-mask.html"]Biden Mask or Body Double? The Viral Video That Has Everyone Talking (rumble.com)[/URL] which unfortunately you will never see on YouTube, and so I can't embed the video


[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fhoh8XbaEAAJ_hZ?format=png&name=360x360[/IMG]
I don't remember where I saw the video.

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fhohmf0aUAAcVZT?format=jpg&name=900x900[/IMG]

[QUOTE=RRR3;14864430]If she was arrested you would have heard about it :facepalm[/QUOTE]

You honestly think we would have? Think of how powerful the Clintons are for a minute. Now, think about how powerful the Deep State is.

If she was arrested by a small rogue faction of our Justice Department, then the Deep State got her out and erased this little misstep of hers from existence.

I don't see what the big deal is: people faint all the time.

[QUOTE=jstern;14864560]Again, it's difficult to imagine how certain things are done behind the scenes by those who have access to unlimited money and world power, so it's always important to have an open mind. I can only go by my source, but certain people have doubles. Like Uday Hussein, it's all a matter of finding someone that looks similar to the person that needs a double, and then performing surgery. You saw what good of a job they did with Uday, and that was in 1980's Iraq. So imagine how much more advance things are now in 2023 with the backing of this evil power.

[IMG]https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxra4pmu5C1qkwgmqo1_500.jpg[/IMG]

The double is not Hillary, she would not be able to answer questions as her, so was used to make an appearance outside of Chelsey's apartment, wave to the crowd, beaming smile showing that she's healthy. The real Hilliry Clinton getting attended to.

And then finally, this [URL="https://rumble.com/v2hyd4a-proof-of-bidens-mask.html"]Biden Mask or Body Double? The Viral Video That Has Everyone Talking (rumble.com)[/URL] which unfortunately you will never see on YouTube, and so I can't embed the video


[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fhoh8XbaEAAJ_hZ?format=png&name=360x360[/IMG]
I don't remember where I saw the video.

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fhohmf0aUAAcVZT?format=jpg&name=900x900[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Might explain this too...

[IMG]https://images.news18.com/ibnlive/uploads/2023/10/joe-biden-2023-10-7bb09de6a3f1f309c944a7e3033d1f39-3x2.jpg[/IMG]

I just remembered Zelenskyy [URL]https://www.bitchute.com/video/tKmd77r1f6GA/[/URL]

I really hate that you can't post these on YouTube, even if it's from a live, televised broadcast. I can't embed it.[URL="https://www.bitchute.com/video/tKmd77r1f6GA/"]

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Jstern what is your opinion of this.

For 33 seconds in this video, Joe Biden doesn't blink. From :12 to :45.

[video=youtube;Y-y3RS2Ihxc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-y3RS2Ihxc[/video]

The average person blinks anywhere from 12-20 times a minute. Lol you have to virtually torture yourself to try and go that long without blinking. How does this frail old man who's reading a speech and had his mind occupied manage to go 33 seconds?

Either that is a lizard person, a robot or it's CGI.

Lol I really don't know wtf is going on. :oldlol:

Would love to hear what some of board libs think. You know, the so called more reasonable posters who don't engage in wild conspiracy theories.

^he literally looks like a robot under remote control.

I've scrolled through some convincing tic toc vids of fake Joe Biden.

We know for a fact Hillary did it... so idk why it's so far fetched to suggest there could be a Joe Biden body double.

I've been saying Trump has one for awhile now... The more Orange he looks, the more likely it is that it's his body double.



All it takes is a expert impersonator and an expert makeup artist... not that hard to pull off, but most of you have already concluded this is impossible.

[QUOTE=Baller234;14864887]Jstern what is your opinion of this.

For 33 seconds in this video, Joe Biden doesn't blink. From :12 to :45.

[video=youtube;Y-y3RS2Ihxc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-y3RS2Ihxc[/video]

The average person blinks anywhere from 12-20 times a minute. Lol you have to virtually torture yourself to try and go that long without blinking. How does this frail old man who's reading a speech and had his mind occupied manage to go 33 seconds?

Either that is a lizard person, a robot or it's CGI.

Lol I really don't know wtf is going on. :oldlol:

Would love to hear what some of board libs think. You know, the so called more reasonable posters who don't engage in wild conspiracy theories.[/QUOTE]

The lack of blinking in that situation is fine, so I wouldn't think too much of it. It usually means that the person is focused on something. In this case, the teleprompter and the importance of the performance. But I immediately could tell that it's the double based on his voice. He was also a little more animated and more coherent. Gun to my head, that's not Biden.

Having said that, it reminded me around August 2000, the camera was pointing at Bill Clinton sitting, watching or waiting for someone to give a speech. On very little sleep, he had this smile on his face and he would not blink. I thought that was odd.

Axe's avatar sincerely popped into my head. (As in, I'm not bringing him up to make fun of him). Because to me, it basically looks like [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?483790-Why-is-that-your-current-avatar&p=14101126&viewfull=1#post14101126"][B]a pervy guy looking at some teenage girls undressing in the girl's locker room[/B][/URL]. Which is something that one would expect Bill Clinton to do.

Now he also can't get over of my avy. Seek help.

[Img]https://www.autismspeaks.org/sites/default/files/styles/wysiwyg_small_width/public/Autism_Speaks_VerticalDS_Full_RGB_150dpi%20%281%29.png?itok=PjWDnAPa[/img]

[QUOTE=Axe;14864998]Now he also can't get over of my avy. Seek help.

[IMG]https://www.autismspeaks.org/sites/default/files/styles/wysiwyg_small_width/public/Autism_Speaks_VerticalDS_Full_RGB_150dpi%20%281%29.png?itok=PjWDnAPa[/IMG][/QUOTE]

You know, I didn't know much about you, but I felt bad for you [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?483790-Why-is-that-your-current-avatar&p=14101126"][B]in that thread[/B][/URL], because after 3 days it had zero comments. I went out of my way to look up a picture of this Mogul Khan to bump the thread, which shows what a nice guy I am. I saved the thread by bumping it, leading others to comment.

But as time went by, it became clear that Axe had an irrational hatred of Donald Trump and a lot of woke tendencies, and he couldn't stand the fact that I liked Trump and that unlike him and Blade, I was unvaccinated. He reached a point where he couldn't contain his frustration and began disparaging me at every opportunity. Even when I was away from ISH, constantly bumping the [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486994-Trump-is-going-to-win"][B]Trump is going to win thread[/B][/URL]. And not just with his Axe account, but his Stanley Kobrick's.

Just your typical, woke, radical, disgusting, leftist, who happens to be obese. One can only hope that it's all just an act.

[QUOTE=jstern;14864922]The lack of blinking in that situation is fine, so I wouldn't think too much of it. It usually means that the person is focused on something. In this case, the teleprompter and the importance of the performance. But I immediately could tell that it's the double based on his voice. He was also a little more animated and more coherent. Gun to my head, that's not Biden.

Having said that, it reminded me around August 2000, the camera was pointing at Bill Clinton sitting, watching or waiting for someone to give a speech. On very little sleep, he had this smile on his face and he would not blink. I thought that was odd.

Axe's avatar sincerely popped into my head. (As in, I'm not bringing him up to make fun of him). Because to me, it basically looks like [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?483790-Why-is-that-your-current-avatar&p=14101126&viewfull=1#post14101126"][B]a pervy guy looking at some teenage girls undressing in the girl's locker room[/B][/URL]. Which is something that one would expect Bill Clinton to do.[/QUOTE]

I mean I wouldn't say the blinking thing is an undeniable smoking gun, but it's pretty close IMO.

I think the only way someone can go 33 seconds without blinking is if they're actively trying not to blink. If someone challenged you not to blink for 33 seconds, you might be able to do it but it would be very uncomfortable.

An average person who's not paying it any mind is going to blink. I don't care how focused they are on something else in that moment or if they're trying hard to read something. 33 seconds? You're blinking.

That is a weird fukking video.

[QUOTE=Baller234;14865268]I mean I wouldn't say the blinking thing is an undeniable smoking gun, but it's pretty close IMO.

I think the only way someone can go 33 seconds without blinking is if they're actively trying not to blink. If someone challenged you not to blink for 33 seconds, you might be able to do it but it would be very uncomfortable.

An average person who's not paying it any mind is going to blink. I don't care how focused they are on something else in that moment or if they're trying hard to read something. 33 seconds? You're blinking.

That is a weird fukking video.[/QUOTE]

Like I said, gun to my head, I think that's a double. Just that, since the double is still human, I wouldn't base it on the blinking.

Not blinking for 33+ seconds is rare. Blinking tells a lot about a person current physiological state. So I view it more as a sign. In a similar way that somebody limping would be a sign. The more anxious, the higher the blink rate (such as people getting interviewed on a cable news station). In contrast, the more focused someone is, the lower the blink rate.

And for me, if I wanted to beat the shit out of a threat, my focus would be extremely high.

This video popped into my mind. Skip to 4:15 after the initial blink, or click on this link for 4:15 [URL]https://youtu.be/BemHqUqcpI8?t=255[/URL]

[video=youtube;BemHqUqcpI8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BemHqUqcpI8[/video]

You can't really see the blink rate, other than it's very low. Because he was just a person minding his business, and now the interrogator is accusing him of something he didn't do. (If he was guilty, his blink rate would be higher.)

A monkey facing a threat in the wild will not blink as much, because their complete and full focus has to be on the threat, and despite how fast blinking is, one blink is an interruption of that.

So because of that logic, despite how long he went without blinking, my initial thought, since I lean towards it being a double, is that his performance in delivering the message that he's reading has him in a state of complete focus where nothing else matters. (And you can kind of tell that his performance wasn't up to par. Versus a hypothetical double that has mastered Biden and has done this numerous times).

Having said all that. I did find the lack of blinking by Bill Clinton back in August 2000 particularly odd, because he wasn't in a situation where his body chemistry would have him blinking less. Perhaps he was high on some medication. Which could also be a contributing factor with the Biden double video.

[QUOTE=jstern;14865247]:rant[/quote]
Lmao what an autistic meltdown. Hopefully, you finally get a renewal of your adderall prescription this coming monday. :oldlol: