Another Illegal Alien kills a U.S. citizen

Happened in Athens, GA. [url]https://www.foxnews.com/us/laken-riley-case-georgia-authorities-announce-suspect-custody-nursing-students-slaying[/url]


Illegal POS from Venezuela:

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Laken Riley the victim:

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Open borders is to blame. Joe Biden is to blame.

Wait, you mean it's not a great idea to have an open border and import hordes of migrants without knowing who they are? Who would have thought?

Tragic of course, but her being the wrong complexion means this story will be swept under the rug. Her life doesn't matter obviously. MAYBE if she was black there would be a minor uproar for a few days from enraged black delegates.

I wonder if this fine young scholar was getting free groceries on the taxpayer dime.

[QUOTE=Baller234;14887097]Wait, you mean it's not a great idea to have an open border and import hordes of migrants without knowing who they are? Who would have thought?

Tragic of course, but her being the wrong complexion means this story will be swept under the rug. Her life doesn't matter obviously. MAYBE if she was black there would be a minor uproar for a few days from enraged black delegates.

I wonder if this fine young scholar was getting free groceries on the taxpayer dime.[/QUOTE]

Georgia is predominantly a Red state, so the only hopeful outcome from this tragic incident is that if her parents or close relatives happen to be Democrat, that they're outraged enough to vote Republican in the next election. Hate to politicize her death, but there is one Party who is vehemently against illegal immigration, and there is the other Party who is not.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14887098]Georgia is predominantly a Red state, so the only hopeful outcome from this tragic incident is that if her parents or close relatives happen to be Democrat, that they're outraged enough to vote Republican in the next election. [B]Hate to politicize her death[/B], but there is one Party who is vehemently against illegal immigration, and there is the other Party who is not.[/QUOTE]

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Well, I don't. But any rational person would ask themselves how this could have been prevented, and the answer is obvious. If this person had no business being in this country, then this girl would be alive today.

Right and I got pretty sick last week after eating some spicy Kadai Chicken. I guess the rational thing to do would be to blame India for existing?

No. A rational person would recognize that this was a horrible thing that happened at the hands of a very bad man, and that he should be tried and punished as such.

As an aside, my coworkers daughter was good friends with Laken. In the same sorority and all that. She's pretty shaken up.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14887129]Right and I got pretty sick last week after eating some spicy Kadai Chicken. I guess the rational thing to do would be to blame India for existing?

No. A rational person would recognize that this was a horrible thing that happened at the hands of a very bad man, and that he should be tried and punished as such.

As an aside, my coworkers daughter was good friends with Laken. In the same sorority and all that. She's pretty shaken up.[/QUOTE]

Your comparison makes no sense and you're willfully ignoring the obvious. That this person was in this country illegally and should have never been here in the first place. Of course he's a bad person. But if he had never been in this country in the first place, this girl would be alive today. How hard is it to agree to that?

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14887130]Your comparison makes no sense and you're willfully ignoring the obvious. That this person was in this country illegally and should have never been here in the first place. Of course he's a bad person. But if he had never been in this country in the first place, this girl would be alive today. How hard is it to agree to that?[/QUOTE]

How does it not make sense? I’m illustrating your egregious leap in logic.

Sure, if the guy wasn’t here then this wouldn’t have happened. Just like if India didn’t exist, I wouldn’t have gotten sick last week.

The point I’m making is that there are more important and applicable things to address.

this wouldn't have happened if our borders were secure, period. this man entered our country illegally [B]under the guise of an "asylum seeker"[/B]. this is what happens when you bring scores of unvetted people into the country.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14887130]Your comparison makes no sense and you're willfully ignoring the obvious. That this person was in this country illegally and should have never been here in the first place. Of course he's a bad person. But if he had never been in this country in the first place, this girl would be alive today. How hard is it to agree to that?[/QUOTE]

You can try to stop as many people as possible but you are not stopping illegal immigration altogether. It's just a fact. People from poor countries see how well America is doing, and they will do whatever they can to get in by any means necessary. Border patrol is not stopping everyone. Regardless of which party is in power.

I do think Republicans would do better on border issue, if you are a one-issue voter. Most people are not one-issue voters. If there are 20 issues, I believe Republicans do better on perhaps 5 of them (border and illegal immigration are arguably two of them). Democrats are probably better for the nation overall on the 15 issues.

Poopsie's getting a hard on over this.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14887137]How does it not make sense? I’m illustrating your egregious leap in logic.

Sure, if the guy wasn’t here then this wouldn’t have happened. Just like if India didn’t exist, I wouldn’t have gotten sick last week.

The point I’m making is that there are more important and applicable things to address.[/QUOTE]


So you’re just dismissing the whole point cause you’re a Lib and I called Libs out. I mean, that’s all I gather from your weird explanation. The hell are you talking about India? We are talking about a current problem that is affecting this country at the moment and is at the forefront of every political discussion at the moment, with it now culminating in an innocent girl dying, and the shit that comes out of your mouth is, that there are more important and applicable things to address?? What? Tell that to her family.

Turn on the news, the illegal immigration crisis is dominating the headlines.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14887197]So you’re just dismissing the whole point cause you’re a Lib and I called Libs out. I mean, that’s all I gather from your weird explanation. The hell are you talking about India? We are talking about a current problem that is affecting this country at the moment and is at the forefront of every political discussion at the moment, with it now culminating in an innocent girl dying, and the shit that comes out of your mouth is, that there are more important and applicable things to address?? What? Tell that to her family.

Turn on the news, the illegal immigration crisis is dominating the headlines.[/QUOTE]

I acknowledged your point and then provided a counter. It’s generally how discussions work. Don’t play dumb and act like you don’t understand what I’m saying.

The funny thing is I’m actually vehemently against open borders for a slew of reasons. Theres plenty of them that are applicable to address. And it’s applicable to address that the family has something horrible that they’re going through and politicizing this death may not be what they want. Not everyone thinks in these terms like you do. I wouldn’t imagine that Libs and Joe Biden are on their minds right now.

Bad dudes exist in every corner of the world. There are plenty of legitimate arguments against unregulated immigration. Using a death of a girl you don’t give a shit about to make your point isn’t it.

ShawkFactory were you one of those hysterical libtards who blamed each and every Covid fatality on Donald Trump and the unvaccinated?

Just want to clear things up since we're on the subject of politicizing someone's death.

[QUOTE=Baller234;14887200]ShawkFactory were you one of those hysterical libtards who blamed each and every Covid fatality on Donald Trump and the unvaccinated?

Just want to clear things up since we're on the subject of politicizing someone's death.[/QUOTE]

No..

Honestly, with the conversations that we’ve had in the past do really believe that that’s me? I know we disagree on things and yes I do tend to lean left at times but I feel like I’ve been open with the fact that I view the world as gray rather than black and white. Some call it wishy-washy but it makes the most sense to me.

The human condition is very complex and labeling things so easily as some do based on agenda gets to me sometimes. I don’t claim to know everything but I think I’m very open.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14887209]No..

Honestly, with the conversations that we’ve had in the past do really believe that that’s me? I know we disagree on things and yes I do tend to lean left at times but I feel like I’ve been open with the fact that I view the world as gray rather than black and white. Some call it wishy-washy but it makes the most sense to me.

The human condition is very complex and labeling things so easily as some do based on agenda gets to me sometimes. I don’t claim to know everything but I think I’m very open.[/QUOTE]

Then you should acknowledge that this girl's death was helped brought upon by people (democrats) who willingly ignore the very real threat posed by mass illegal immigration.

If only Trump finished the wall he promised. :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=SATAN;14887214]If only Trump finished the wall he promised. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

Ain't it just Steve Bannon's scam?

This was all over the right-wing media.

Using big bold lettering that would only be used for the start of World War III.

The righties are just ecstatic over this.

[QUOTE=Lakers Legend#32;14887267][b]This was all over the right-wing media.[/b]

Using big bold lettering that would only be used for the start of World War III.

The righties are just ecstatic over this.[/QUOTE]
First you're buying all the Republicans books and now spending all day watching/reading right wing news.

Sorry blue fakkit.... the red doesn't want you're psychotic ass.

It has to be shown that illegals murder at a higher rate than our own citizens do.

If they murder at a lower rate, it is actually watering down our already high murder rate.

No one thought illegals would be 100% crime free.

Biden now scheduled to visit the southern border in Texas on Thursday.

Geeeeeee.... wonder why??

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14887137]How does it not make sense? I’m illustrating your egregious leap in logic.

Sure, if the guy wasn’t here then this wouldn’t have happened. Just like if India didn’t exist, I wouldn’t have gotten sick last week.

The point I’m making is that there are more important and applicable things to address.[/QUOTE]

This is an absolutely retarded analogy. :lol :facepalm

[QUOTE=tpols;14887545]This is an absolutely retarded analogy. :lol :facepalm[/QUOTE]

Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t make it retarded. Is it a little crass or insensitive? Sure, and for that I probably wouldn’t make it again.

But the logic follows. A negative event occurs, and people are very quickly assuming causation by something that I don’t believe to be the most important aspect of this type of crime. I think the biggest thing that should be considered here is that in every corner of the world, there are men who are going to act violently towards young women. It’s an unfortunate aspect of humanity and is not confined by nationality, race, ethnicity, etc. Banning illegal immigration (again, something I believe should be done, but for other reasons) isn’t going to make this problem go away.

So yes..because I don’t believe immigration to be the root cause here, I find it a disservice to Laken and her friends/family as well as future girls that this will happen to to focus on that for political reasons. Because it IS so politicized anyway then it might contribute to the desired outcome so I guess that’s fine. But it's like putting a bandaid on a hatchet wound.

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Back in August, I created a thread of an 11 year old Guatemalan girl was raped and murdered by an illegal alien and RRR3 and SouBeachTalents, (I won't count highwhey) created the narrative in the comments that the only reason as to why I made the thread was not because I was horrified about the death of a little girl that shouldn't have happened, but rather that it was to criticize Biden and his open border policy. And with that fake narrative, RMWG deleted the thread. And it away stuck out on how a fake narrative can be pushed to justify censorship. It was disgusting.

oh NOW suddenly one death is too many :roll:

During covid it's "who cares, it's only old people or people with bad hearts, they die anyway."

The tribalism is a joke.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14887551]Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t make it retarded. Is it a little crass or insensitive? Sure, and for that I probably wouldn’t make it again.

But the logic follows. [B]A negative event occurs, and people are very quickly assuming causation by something that I don’t believe to be the most important aspect of this type of crime. [/B]I think the biggest thing that should be considered here is that in every corner of the world, there are men who are going to act violently towards young women. It’s an unfortunate aspect of humanity and is not confined by nationality, race, ethnicity, etc. Banning illegal immigration (again, something I believe should be done, but for other reasons) isn’t going to make this problem go away.

So yes..because I don’t believe immigration to be the root cause here, I find it a disservice to Laken and her friends/family as well as future girls that this will happen to to focus on that for political reasons. Because it IS so politicized anyway then it might contribute to the desired outcome so I guess that’s fine. But it's like putting a bandaid on a hatchet wound.[/QUOTE]

You honestly sound like an extremely coddled small white boy that doesn't understand the real world is much tougher outside your little USA bubble.

Poor people with nothing particularly young males from some of these 3rd world countries experience death and violence to such an unbelievable degree they end up dishing out what they came from. Which is understandable and makes sense. But it also does make them dangerous to allow into our country with absolutely no vetting or background check. It's absurd.

Comparing it to Indian food or whatever bullshit you were talking about is so nonsensical its hard to put into words how bad your analogy was.

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MAD PROPS TO TRUMP FOR TURNING OFF HIS CAPS LOCK HERE!

Well, kind of. He turned it off and on.

AT LEAST IT WASN'T HIS USUAL CAPS ONLY! BECAUSE YOU KNOW, TO LET US KNOW HE'S NEVER NOT SCREAMING!

[QUOTE=tpols;14887577]You honestly sound like an extremely coddled small white boy that doesn't understand the real world is much tougher outside your little USA bubble.

Poor people with nothing particularly young males from some of these 3rd world countries experience death and violence to such an unbelievable degree they end up dishing out what they came from. Which is understandable and makes sense. But it also does make them dangerous to allow into our country with absolutely no vetting or background check. It's absurd.

Comparing it to Indian food or whatever bullshit you were talking about is so nonsensical its hard to put into words how bad your analogy was.[/QUOTE]
You calling someone a small white :roll:

[QUOTE=tpols;14887577]You honestly sound like an extremely coddled small white boy that doesn't understand the real world is much tougher outside your little USA bubble.

Poor people with nothing particularly young males from some of these 3rd world countries experience death and violence to such an unbelievable degree they end up dishing out what they came from. Which is understandable and makes sense. But it also does make them dangerous to allow into our country with absolutely no vetting or background check. It's absurd.

[B]Comparing it to Indian food or whatever bullshit you were talking about is so nonsensical its hard to put into words how bad your analogy was[/B].[/QUOTE]

You understand that I was simply comparing a line of logic...not the actual situation right? You seem to not be able to grasp that. I explained the comparison and the line of thinking I was referencing. Again, you not being able to understand it isn't my problem.

[QUOTE=Off the Court;14887576]oh NOW suddenly one death is too many :roll:

During covid it's "who cares, it's only old people or people with bad hearts, they die anyway."

The tribalism is a joke.[/QUOTE]

Yea because the left was so concerned about spreading Covid...

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Mind you this was during the initial alpha strain when people were still dying in larger numbers. Long before there were even talks about a vaccine.

Off the Court & ShawkFactory downplaying a horrific tragedy that could have easily been avoided if not for retarded and corrupt democratic policies that benefit no one.

But they're just being honest and objective guys, honest.

[QUOTE=Baller234;14887623]Off the Court & ShawkFactory downplaying a horrific tragedy that could have easily been avoided if not for retarded and corrupt democratic policies that benefit no one.

But they're just being honest and objective guys, honest.[/QUOTE]

How am I downplaying it? By not completely agreeing with the reasoning behind it that you and others have auto-assigned?

Positing a different angle on the issues behind it is not downplaying it. If anything, considering other aspects..is the opposite. You see a headline and make associations without giving it any other thought.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14887626]How am I downplaying it? By not completely agreeing with the reasoning behind it that you and others have auto-assigned?

Positing a different angle on the issues behind it is not downplaying it. If anything, considering other aspects..is the opposite. You see a headline and make associations without giving it any other thought.[/QUOTE]

This murderous criminal couldn't have entered the country in the first place if not for unchecked illegal immigration. You could thank democrats for that.

He also wouldn't have been free to commit murder if he'd been held in custody and deported back when he was first arrested. But rather than hold him in custody, he was released back onto the streets twice. You could thank soft on crime democrats for that too.

This murder is entirely the fault of democratic policies. This woman would still be alive if we had sane leadership.

[QUOTE=Baller234;14887627]This murderous criminal couldn't have entered the country in the first place if not for unchecked illegal immigration. You could thank democrats for that.

He also wouldn't have been free to commit murder if he'd been held in custody and deported back when he was first arrested. But rather than hold him in custody, he was released back onto the streets twice. You could thank soft on crime democrats for that too.

This murder is entirely the fault of democratic policies. This woman would still be alive if we had sane leadership.[/QUOTE]
"Anti-establishment" guy DEMANDS we have even MORE of a police state to make him feel safe :oldlol:

[QUOTE=RRR3;14887649]"Anti-establishment" guy DEMANDS we have even MORE of a police state to make him feel safe :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

i wonder if laken riley felt safe.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14887626]How am I downplaying it?[/QUOTE]

You're never did. The only way he knows how to argue is to strawman.

I feel like this kind of narrative is so dumb. Just because one illegal alien decides to do crime, what about the other millions of illegal aliens who live peacefully? What if a study comes out and find that citizens do more violent crime than illegals?


Instead, we should already know the pro and cons of illegal immigration and decide if we'd support the politicians with a relaxed policy towards it.

[QUOTE=RRR3;14887649]"Anti-establishment" guy DEMANDS we have even MORE of a police state to make him feel safe :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

This post is so stupid it's painful.

As a country, we reserve the right to secure our borders and prevent outsiders from sneaking in. Not sure why you would equate that with having a police state when that has [B]zero[/B] to do with policing our own citizens.

Safety and security are two of the biggest obligations a government has to it's tax paying citizens. That includes keeping violent criminals off the streets. So yes as someone who pays taxes actually I do expect to feel safe. In fact if the average person isn't safe walking about freely in their own country, that signals a colossal failure of government.

That you would downplay this in some weird attempt to try and own the cons is sad and pathetic.

I really feel bad for you. You're not a good person and you need serious help.