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How many of you have realized Wemby can surpass MJ/LeBron/whoever you have as GOAT?
I have never seen anyone like this guy. He is like a 2k created player came to life. Once that idiot Popovich stops sabotaging the Spurs completely people will begin to realize it more. He is a raw 20 year old and he’s probably already top 20ish in the NBA. People will bring up the Spurs horrible record but they are a godawful roster outside of Wemby and abysmally coached to the point everyone argues that Popovich is trying to lose every game on purpose. He’s already one of the best defenders in the league by any metric. And he’s a developing star on offense as well. He could easily be like a 35/12/5/2/4 guy at his peak. As a LeBron fan, I’d love to see Wemby surpass him. He’s such a likable guy and a really unique player archetype how can you not cheer for him?
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It’s obviously possible, but to assume it at this point or suggest that what hes done so far puts him on track for it, is a tremendous underestimation of just how unthinkably high Lebron has set the GOAT bar.
Lets see Yama take this Spurs group to the finals in a couple years the way Bron did with an equivalent 07 Cavs team. Let him play 21 seasons and become the alltime scoring champ. Wait for him to unveil his wiener on national television and amaze a global audience with the glory of his 13 inch behemoth.
When he does all that, we can talk.
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Re: How many of you have realized Wemby can surpass MJ/LeBron/whoever you have as GOA
There have been players, all players have the opportunity to surpass the guy widely considered borderline unanimously to be the greatest of all time since 1998 that hasn’t been topped since. Potential doesn’t mean it’s a lock to happen. So yeah, everyone has that opportunity and chance, technically.
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[QUOTE=WhiteKyrie;14888448]There have been players, all players have the opportunity to surpass the guy widely considered borderline unanimously to be the greatest of all time since 1998 that hasn’t been topped since. Potential doesn’t mean it’s a lot to happen. So yeah, everyone has that opportunity and chance, technically.[/QUOTE]
Petrified. Can't wait till you start hating on Wemby
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Yes, Wemby has the potential to be the GOAT.
Personally, I hope he stays healthy and realizes his potential.
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Re: How many of you have realized Wemby can surpass MJ/LeBron/whoever you have as GOA
[QUOTE=WhiteKyrie;14888448]There have been players, all players have the opportunity to surpass the guy widely considered borderline unanimously to be the greatest of all time since 1998 that hasn’t been topped since. Potential doesn’t mean it’s a lock to happen. So yeah, everyone has that opportunity and chance, technically.[/QUOTE]
Wemby has more potential than any of them most likely and has the work ethic/competitive fire to back it up supposedly. Has a strict diet(no zion situation) sleeps 12 hours a night(following lebron and Federers strat for longevity). Was getting rdy to be the no1 draft pick when he was like 13
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[QUOTE=RRR3;14888450]Petrified. Can't wait till you start hating on Wemby[/QUOTE]
You are a weird guy
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[QUOTE=RRR3;14888450]Petrified. Can't wait till you start hating on Wemby[/QUOTE]
This is a strange response to a pretty simple and straightforward post...
Wemby has the gifts to be a GOAT tier player, we have to see how long he can hold up with such a huge frame injury wise, that would be my biggest concern.
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Advanced stats favor Chet. Gotta surpass him first, then we can talk about other, more lofty goals
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[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14888470]Advanced stats favor Chet. Gotta surpass him first, then we can talk about other, more lofty goals[/QUOTE]
Yea…
Wemby is definitely a more dominant player than Chet and I think the advanced numbers in this case have a lot to do with the team performance.
Chet is a plug and play guy and is performing at a high level doing the little things and being okay with not getting many shots in a particular night. I don’t know for a fact that Wemby would be the same because of the nature of the position he’s in. But he might have come in with more to prove and that could have been more toxic to team environment.
If you’re starting a team from scratch though it’s clearly Wemby.
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I don't think he will tbh. Power to him if he does though.
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Yeah he's capable of putting up peak Hakeem numbers. Idk about GOAT because it's so hard to win 4-5, you need a great team and a lot of luck to consistently make deep Playoff runs.
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[QUOTE=ImKobe;14888486]Yeah he's capable of putting up peak Hakeem numbers. Idk about GOAT because it's so hard to win 4-5, you need a great team and a lot of luck to consistently make deep Playoff runs.[/QUOTE]
You don't have to win 4-5 to be GOAT, especially in today's league with so much parity. But he should win multiple titles assuming Spurs aren't incompetent boobs.
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DESTROYING Chet right now :applause:
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Completely shat on Chet in the clutch. Anyone who thinks he isn’t the best rookie is a retard
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[QUOTE=RRR3;14888498]Completely shat on Chet in the clutch. Anyone who thinks he isn’t the best rookie is a retard[/QUOTE]
but but the advanced stats say...
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I'm a believer. I just hope he develops his body more like KG and AD and not KD. Garnett and Davis both were listed around 220 pounds as rookies and added 30+ pounds of size without impacting their mobility. The Big Ticket weighed in at 253 pounds in his MVP season; AD was already 253 pounds by late 2015.
255-260 is a good target for Wemby. Should take him 3-5 years of slow and steady strength and conditioning.
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[QUOTE=ImKobe;14888503]but but the advanced stats say...[/QUOTE]
I remember when Ron Boone cast the one vote against Chris Paul for ROTY because Deron beat him head to head. :roll:
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[QUOTE=ImKobe;14888503]but but the advanced stats say...[/QUOTE]
Anyone using box score stats that are heavily efficiency based for players in much different situations is disingenuous at best. Wemby has been practically sabotaged by his team this year and Chet is the 3rd guy on a title contender.
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[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;14888504]I'm a believer. I just hope he develops his body more like KG and AD and not KD. Garnett and Davis both were listed around 220 pounds as rookies and added 30+ pounds of size without impacting their mobility. The Big Ticket weighed in at 253 pounds in his MVP season; AD was already 253 pounds by late 2015.
255-260 is a good target for Wemby. Should take him 3-5 years of slow and steady strength and conditioning.[/QUOTE]
Davis certainly isn't the guy I'd be looking at if I wanted to stay healthy :lol
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Can't quit me! Poor little guy DESPERATELY spamming my threads while tears splatter down his face after Wemby the GOAT french player exposed his low bball IQ yet again :roll:
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14888505]I remember when Ron Boone cast the one vote against Chris Paul for ROTY because Deron beat him head to head. :roll:[/QUOTE]
Wemby is beating him H2H and has been outplaying him the past 2-3 months. IDK what else is there to say.
Going into this game since Jan 1st:
Wemby: 23/10/4/1/4 59.3%TS 27.5 mpg
Chet: 16/8/3/1/3 63.1%TS 30.4 mpg
outplayed him 2 out of 3 times and the one time he didn't they both struggled shooting the ball
It's over bro
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[QUOTE=ImKobe;14888512]Wemby is beating him H2H and has been outplaying him the past 3 months. IDK what else is there to say.
Going into this game since Jan 1st:
Wemby: 23/10/4/1/4 59.3%TS 27.5 mpg
Chet: 16/8/3/1/3 63.1%TS 30.4 mpg
It's over bro[/QUOTE]
it's not a 2 month award. It's Rookie of the Year
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Re: How many of you have realized Wemby can surpass MJ/LeBron/whoever you have as GOA
"Dumb as a rock" Xiao at it again
:roll:
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14888513]it's not a 2 month award. It's Rookie of the Year[/QUOTE]
Outplayed H2H twice, better counting stats across the board despite playing less minutes, creeping up on efficiency and most advanced stats.. Wemby's been the favorite for ROY for over a month now on betting sites but go ahead and make your bread, put your money where your mouth is.
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[QUOTE=RRR3;14888510]Can't quit me! Poor little guy DESPERATELY spamming my threads while tears splatter down his face after Wemby the GOAT french player exposed his low bball IQ yet again :roll:[/QUOTE]
:roll:
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[QUOTE=Proctor;14888516]:roll:[/QUOTE]
Not getting to call Rudy the GOAT French player anymore has him LOSING it. Desperately going around trying to downplay Wemby :roll: "N-n-n-no it's illegal to be that good on defense and actually have offensive skill! :cry:"
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[QUOTE=RRR3;14888517]Not getting to call Rudy the GOAT French player anymore has him LOSING it. Desperately going around trying to downplay Wemby :roll: "N-n-n-no it's illegal to be that good on defense and actually have offensive skill! :cry:"[/QUOTE]
Does Gobert actually come into any genuine conversation about the best French player?
It's Wemby and Tony Parker, and more distantly someone like Diaw. Wemby was already better than Gobert ever was a month into the season.
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[QUOTE=ImKobe;14888515]Outplayed H2H twice, better counting stats across the board despite playing less minutes, creeping up on efficiency and most advanced stats.. Wemby's been the favorite for ROY for over a month now on betting sites but go ahead and make your bread, put your money where your mouth is.[/QUOTE]
Ron Boone voted for Deron over Paul because of head to head. ROTY is on a per minute basis now? He'll probably win it. Hype goes a long ways. He certainly doesn't deserve it at this point.
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[QUOTE=Proctor;14888519]Does Gobert actually come into any genuine conversation about the best French player?
It's Wemby and Tony Parker, and more distantly someone like Diaw. Wemby was already better than Gobert ever was a month into the season.[/QUOTE]
When Wemby carries a bad team he can enter the conversation. Tony Parker and Diaw and Greg Monroe and whomever else you're trolling with
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[QUOTE=Proctor;14888519]Does Gobert actually come into any genuine conversation about the best French player?
It's Wemby and Tony Parker, and more distantly someone like Diaw. Wemby was already better than Gobert ever was a month into the season.[/QUOTE]
Well Gobert is up there if you ignore the playoffs :lol
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wish he could quit me. Pathetic:facepalm
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14888521]When Wemby carries a bad team he can enter the conversation. Tony Parker and Diaw and Greg Monroe and whomever else you're trolling with[/QUOTE]
Rudy has never done that and on top of that has been a large portion to blame when his great teams have fell short. He has zero to show for himself. Parker is a champion. Diaw is a champion. Gobert is DPOY?
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Well he could. But usually people his size will be very injury prone if they push themselves. Lets see him after his first serious injury.
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14888520]Ron Boone voted for Deron over Paul because of head to head. ROTY is on a per minute basis now? He'll probably win it. Hype goes a long ways. He certainly doesn't deserve it at this point.[/QUOTE]
Are you comparing Wemby to Deron here? Deron and CP3 weren't even close with their averages & advanced stats their rookie year, it was an easy win. Wemby is shitting on Chet and is a MASSIVE favorite to win the award. There's 0 discussion to be had.
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[QUOTE=Proctor;14888525]Rudy has never done that and on top of that has been a large portion to blame when his great teams have fell short. He has zero to show for himself. Parker is a champion. Diaw is a champion. Gobert is DPOY?[/QUOTE]
from one of the worst teams to 6th best record in the league as soon as Gobert replaced Kanter and than the next 7 years that followed. What great teams? They all over achieved! Zero other than multiple DPOTY/all D/All NBA/all[star/playoff upsets. Parker was a champion on a great team. Diaw was a role player on a great team. Bobby Hansen is a champion too :roll:
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[QUOTE=ImKobe;14888550]Are you comparing Wemby to Deron here? Deron and CP3 weren't even close with their averages & advanced stats their rookie year, it was an easy win. Wemby is shitting on Chet and is a MASSIVE favorite to win the award. There's 0 discussion to be had.[/QUOTE]
they weren't close but that was the argument for years. Deron beat Paul head to head. Saying a guy is rookie of the YEAR based on a head to head matchup is ridiculous! Chet has better advanced number and has been doing it all year. Getting shit on? :facepalm
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14888556]they weren't close but that was the argument for years. Deron beat Paul head to head. Saying a guy is rookie of the YEAR based on a head to head matchup is ridiculous! Chet has better advanced number and has been doing it all year. Getting shit on? :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Better counting stats by a mile + better H2H. Chet is a distant 2nd.