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Seems that no load management and higher intensity games especially post ASB are taking lots of guys down..
Joel Embiid
Donovan Mitchell
Devin Booker
Jalen Brunson
Scottie Barnes
Russell Westbrook
Except Embiid all the others in the past couple of days.
And this really hurts the teams in question. Apart from the Clippers, all the other teams got way weaker.
I doubt load management would have prevented Barnes and Westbrook from breaking their hands.
Let's not forget the All-Star break wasn't long ago.
They just came back from almost a week of rest with the all-star break.
So cumulative fatigue and/cumulative wear&tear would mostly be ruled out for injuries immediately post all star break.
The type of injury causation you’re alluding to, would be for players who hadn’t had more than one day off in months, and had many back to backs recently.
I don't think players of the past would sit out with hand injuries. That's a boo boo only today's guys sit out with. Even ankle or knee stuff. Guys would play through. It's insane how many guys played 82 for as long as they did and always kept going no matter what.
[QUOTE=tpols;14889417]I don't think players of the past would sit out with hand injuries. That's a boo boo only today's guys sit out with. Even ankle or knee stuff. Guys would play through. It's insane how many guys played 82 for as long as they did and always kept going no matter what.[/QUOTE]
Players now need an excuse to rest so any chance they get, especially this late
[QUOTE=rawimpact;14889434]Players now need an excuse to rest so any chance they get, especially this late[/QUOTE]
Teams themselves force the players to sit. Imagine working at a job where your boss is a hypochondriac who puts you on mandatory paid leave every time you cough.
Danny Cunningham: Donovan Mitchell needs to play in 18 more games this season to reach the threshold to make All-NBA. [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The #Cavs have 22 games remaining in the regular season and Mitchell has already been ruled out of the next three[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/RealDCunningham"]Twitter RealDCunningham[/URL]
The games are more high speed and intense than ever.
There needs to be less games. Less games means more rest between games. That means higher quality games and less injuries.
[QUOTE=Baller234;14889530]The games are more high speed and intense than ever.
There needs to be less games. Less games means more rest between games. That means higher quality games and less injuries.[/QUOTE]
also less revenue. Won't happen
[QUOTE=tpols;14889417]I don't think players of the past would sit out with hand injuries. That's a boo boo only today's guys sit out with. Even ankle or knee stuff. Guys would play through. It's insane how many guys played 82 for as long as they did and always kept going no matter what.[/QUOTE]
For sure. Kobe broke his index finger on the shooting hand in the middle of the 2010 season in December and didn't miss a single game because of it, he adapted and changed his shooting form on the fly.
To be fair to Russ tho, he's had a ****ton of hand injuries and he can afford to miss games since he plays limited minutes off the bench for that team. He played through a lot of injuries in the past.
People really don't understand how a broken hand could be a problem for a point guard?
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14889538]also less revenue. Won't happen[/QUOTE]
Also, it would further skew stats between eras.
Whatever happened to evolving to bigger, stronger, faster? Why can't they stay on the court?
[QUOTE=RogueBorg;14889690]Whatever happened to evolving to bigger, stronger, faster? Why can't they stay on the court?[/QUOTE]
bound to more injuries when you're so much more skilled
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14889612]For sure. Kobe broke his index finger on the shooting hand in the middle of the 2010 season in December and didn't miss a single game because of it, he adapted and changed his shooting form on the fly.
To be fair to Russ tho, he's had a ****ton of hand injuries and he can afford to miss games since he plays limited minutes off the bench for that team. He played through a lot of injuries in the past.[/QUOTE]
Yup.
Kobe averaged 30/6/5 to lead a championship team with broken fingers and a crippled knee. Most guys would sit out with only 1 of those ailments and he played through them all at the same time.
[QUOTE=RogueBorg;14889690]Whatever happened to evolving to bigger, stronger, faster? Why can't they stay on the court?[/QUOTE]
Are you confusing basketball evolution with evolution by natural selection?
One happy middle ground solution:
Stretch the season.
Instead of November to may… October to June.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Rustler;14889646]Also, it would further skew stats between eras.[/QUOTE]
I think ppl care way too much about this tbh.
All that should matter is the quality of the current product. If by chance that meant reducing the number of games, I could care less how it bothers the historians. This is the same league that instituted a brand new shot worth more points after 28 years of not having one. The historical records or whatever you wanna call them were completely blown to shit anyway.
Absence of load management has nothing to do with it.
There were just as many, if not more injuries last year.
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Brett Siegel: [URL="http://twitter.com/brettsiegelnba/status/1767263896513982724?s=46&t=bsTHbtMSqHXbNGi0vWP8hw"]Donovan Mitchell will miss his 18th game of the season tonight, meaning he will be ineligible for MVP and All-NBA. Here are the others he joins on this list:[/URL] Joel Embiid (PHI) Jimmy Butler (MIA) Kyrie Irving (DAL) Julius Randle (NYK) Kristaps Porzingis (BOS) Bradley Beal (PHX) Jamal Murray (DEN) Karl-Anthony Towns joins the list with 13 more absences. Trae Young joins the list with five more absences. Devin Booker joins the list with four more absences.
– via [URL="http://twitter.com/brettsiegelnba/status/1767263896513982724?s=46&t=bsTHbtMSqHXbNGi0vWP8hw"]Twitter[/URL]
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14891485]Brett Siegel: [URL="http://twitter.com/brettsiegelnba/status/1767263896513982724?s=46&t=bsTHbtMSqHXbNGi0vWP8hw"]Donovan Mitchell will miss his 18th game of the season tonight, meaning he will be ineligible for MVP and All-NBA. Here are the others he joins on this list:[/URL] Joel Embiid (PHI) Jimmy Butler (MIA) Kyrie Irving (DAL) Julius Randle (NYK) Kristaps Porzingis (BOS) Bradley Beal (PHX) Jamal Murray (DEN) Karl-Anthony Towns joins the list with 13 more absences. Trae Young joins the list with five more absences. Devin Booker joins the list with four more absences.
– via [URL="http://twitter.com/brettsiegelnba/status/1767263896513982724?s=46&t=bsTHbtMSqHXbNGi0vWP8hw"]Twitter[/URL][/QUOTE]
Four of those names were All-NBA players as well.
All-NBA centers
1 Jokic
2 Sabonis
3 Gobert
Guards
1 Shai; Luka
2 Steph; Ant
3 Dame; Brunson
Haliburton (tho, he's close as well to being out.) Maxey on the outside
Forwards
1 Giannis; JT
2 KD; Leonard
3 AD; Bron
AllNBA eliminated the center spot so Gobert won't make it and Sabonis is iffy.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14891654]AllNBA eliminated the center spot so Gobert won't make it and Sabonis is iffy.[/QUOTE]
Since when did they eliminate the center spot? Doesn't make since seeing how the past 3 MVPs have been centers.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14891654]AllNBA eliminated the center spot so Gobert won't make it and Sabonis is iffy.[/QUOTE]
Nevermind, i remember now. How dumb of the NBA. They didn't get rid of it when DeAndre Jordan and Tyson Chandled were 1st team but now when All-Time centers in Jokic and Embiid they due away with it.
[url]https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/274976/Joel-Embiid-Not-Anywhere-Close-To-Returning-From-Meniscus-Injury[/url]
[QUOTE=L.Kizzle;14891676]Since when did they eliminate the center spot? Doesn't make since seeing how the past 3 MVPs have been centers.[/QUOTE]
They have stopped putting position requirements on All-NBA selections. If they wanted, they could pick 10 guards, or 10 centers.
[QUOTE] Michael Scotto: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ben Simmons underwent a successful microscopic partial discectomy earlier today to alleviate the nerve impingement in his lower back.[/URL] Simmons is expected to make a full recovery in time for training camp next season, Brooklyn Nets announce.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto"]Twitter MikeAScotto[/URL]
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full recovery from back surgery :facepalm
Not a superstar but siakam's desperate block attempt against coby white near the end of the 4th qtr. the previous night resulted into a leg injury for the latter. :facepalm
Wolves, Clippers, Sixers all have their title odds close to zero after recent injuries...
[QUOTE=Baller234;14889530]The games are more high speed and intense than ever.[/QUOTE]
No, there is actually more standing around in today’s game. Yes there is a higher pace because of lack of physicality, resistance and defense in general. So that isn’t the case whatsoever. If it was that high speed, there would be less emphasis on weight lifting and adding bulk. I think it’s due to a different set of circumstances plus these Gen Zers are pussified
[QUOTE] Brian Lewis: So Ben Simmons’ surgery – done in Miami, where he did his rehab – appears to be a less severe version of the last one he got, and on the left side as opposed to the original right side. If he’s back for camp as the #Nets expect, it also implies a shorter recovery timeline.
– via Twitter NYPost_Lewis[/QUOTE]
both sides ****ed now