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You cuttin' onions in here bro? Haven't cried in a while but a parent losing their child is a soft spot for me. RIP Xavier.
TDS and woke mind virus are the most prominent and fastest growing illnesses in the US, having overtaken 10's of millions of lives and counting. There are several on this very forum who suffer from at least one of these diseases, and many suffer from both.
I know it's all fun and games to troll about this stuff, but this is actually some serious shit. We've got half the country who are genuinely mentally ill and think they're on the right side of history. We have to vote for Trump, and then JD Vance in 2028 in order to at least limit the outbreak and hopefully instill some saneness back into our society. Our democracy is being threatened by the mentally ill which have infiltrated our government and military.
PLEASE VOTE RED. PLEASE. Our country is on the line.
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14930611]You cuttin' onions in here bro? Haven't cried in a while but a parent losing their child is a soft spot for me. RIP Xavier.
TDS and woke mind virus are the most prominent and fastest growing illnesses in the US, having overtaken 10's of millions of lives and counting. There are several on this very forum who suffer from at least one of these diseases, and many suffer from both.
I know it's all fun and games to troll about this stuff, but this is actually some serious shit. We've got half the country who are genuinely mentally ill and think they're on the right side of history. We have to vote for Trump, and then JD Vance in 2028 in order to at least limit the outbreak and hopefully instill some saneness back into our society. Our democracy is being threatened by the mentally ill which have infiltrated our government and military.
PLEASE VOTE RED. PLEASE. Our country is on the line.[/QUOTE]
You need to vote for Kamala, it's racist (and sexist) if you don't.
I think it's infected BOTH sides.
Last Friday, someone with a huge Trump sign on his truck parked near to my boss. He was triggered the whole day and kinda took it out on the employees. On the other side, I've heard conspiracy theories that sound absolutely looney. People need to stop reading all this politics and realize there stuff much more important like (figuratively) losing your child - how sad. Of course, I'm here posting on a political board but hey, no basketball and no tennis going on :-)
His son was born gay
Sounds like it’s more of a corrupt healthcare system trying to subscribe extra, unnecessary care to a billionaire’s child.
But doing a quick dive it seems into it:
Vivian reportedly tried to hide her true gender identity from her dad for several years.
— She officially adopted her mother, Justine’s, maiden name at the age of 18 in 2022, according to court filings.
— She filed a petition to change both her name and legal gender, and was quoted as saying she “no longer wishes to be related” to her father “in any way”.
— A Santa Monica judge issued a new birth certificate that reflected her changed name, and gender, while their ruling simply stated: “Xavier Alexander Musk to Vivian Jenna Wilson. The gender of the petitioner is changed from male to female.”
— Vivian filed the petition just three days after her 18th birthday, though the court documents weren’t made public until the day after Father’s Day.
— Vivian and her father reportedly have a strained relationship, with Musk disagreeing with her political views, claiming she believes that all rich people are evil.
Seems like Musk just doesn’t like that she’s different from his ideals of a son and he disagrees with her politics. From the little information here, it seems a bit extreme to completely want nothing to do with your father anymore, but we also don’t have her side of the story. Btw, it’s very easy to be progressive and woke minded when your dad is Elon and you have essentially infinite wealth to fall back on. I’d like to get some insight on how she lives, is it “oh, I ‘only’ live in this $4000/mo one bedroom in North Hollywood’” or is she out there grinding and making her own living? And While I don’t think progressivism and ‘woke culture’ is bad, I do think what mainstream media has hijacked and turned it into can dangerous at times, but on the flipside we can’t all just cry foul and attribute every gender identity case to that, some people just want to be the opposite sex and we should let them do what they want.
It's really disgusting, a parent should support their child through thick and thin, no matter what. Elon would rather label his son "dead" a blame the "woke mind virus" than support his own son. This is why LGBT have high suicide rates, people need a parent's love and approval. I would wager that Xavier will go on to take his own life, and we will see Elon blame the woke mind virus and not realize it was himself.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14930654]It's really disgusting, a parent should support their child through thick and thin, no matter what. Elon would rather label his son "dead" a blame the "woke mind virus" than support his own son. [B]This is why LGBT have high suicide rates, people need a parent's love and approval.[/B] I would wager that Xavier will go on to take his own life, and we will see Elon blame the woke mind virus and not realize it was himself.[/QUOTE]
He's 20 years old, not a child. Liberals say suicide rates among LGBTQ are a result of pressure from parents and society to conform but the facts say otherwise. The amount of LGBTQ in the 2009 who said they attempted suicide was 24% back when gay marriage was illegal in most of the country and society wasn't ready for the trans community. In 2017 when gay marriage was legal everywhere and society was more accepting of the trans community, 34% of LGBTQ say they attempted suicide. In 2023 41% of LGBTQ say they thought about suicide in the past year.
You want to blame parents and an unsympathetic society, but as society becomes more accepting of LGBTQ they are actually even more depressed. Hint. Don't blame parents, don't blame conservatives, don't blame heterosexuals. Blame social media. But that's only if you care about getting to the root of the problem rather than being able to finger point at someone you don't like. My guess is you'll continue doing the latter
[QUOTE=Media Moderator;14930662]He's 20 years old, not a child. Liberals say suicide rates among LGBTQ are a result of pressure from parents and society to conform but the facts say otherwise. The amount of LGBTQ in the 2009 who said they attempted suicide was 24% back when gay marriage was illegal in most of the country and society wasn't ready for the trans community. In 2017 when gay marriage was legal everywhere and society was more accepting of the trans community, 34% of LGBTQ say they attempted suicide. In 2023 41% of LGBTQ say they thought about suicide in the past year.
You want to blame parents and an unsympathetic society, but as society becomes more accepting of LGBTQ they are actually even more depressed. Hint. Don't blame parents, don't blame conservatives, don't blame heterosexuals. Blame social media. But that's only if you care about getting to the root of the problem rather than being able to finger point at someone you don't like. My guess is you'll continue doing the latter[/QUOTE]
They had high suicide rates well before social media Patrick. Adults need acceptance too, but Xavier grew up with Elon, and if a child of any age, has the love and support of at least one parent, they can make it through the rejection of society. But when there is no one to lean on, they are alone. And when you have no one in your corner, not even your own father, suicide looks attractive.
As a side note, Elon is autistic and I would bet that Xavier inherited that. Autism has very high rates of gender dysphoria. Woke mind virus doh.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14930665]As a side note, Elon is autistic and I would bet that Xavier inherited that. Autism has very high rates of gender dysphoria. Woke mind virus doh.[/QUOTE]
And you are more autistic and gay than both of them put together
[QUOTE=warriorfan;14930669]And you are more autistic and gay than both of them put together[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah? Well you're even more gay and autistic than that you big stupid pants!
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14930672]Oh yeah? Well you're even more gay and autistic than that you big stupid pants![/QUOTE]
cringe
[QUOTE=warriorfan;14930675]cringe[/QUOTE]
cringe
[B][U]IMO[/U][/B]
When one is an adult, one can make those kinds of life altering, permanent decisions. Not a child/minor. Talk of suicide (to parents) is fear mongering.
Do people think all of a sudden, mankind has just suddenly become more gay/transgender/whatever letter - these current percentages are off the chart - all this stuff just confuses/pressures already unstable kids.
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Do people think all of a sudden, mankind has just suddenly become more gay/transgender/whatever letter -.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it is because gender dysphoria is linked to autism, and autism levels are rising off the charts because humans are having children later in life rather than at a young age. Autism rates go way up the later in life you have kids. We are supposed to have children mid-20s, instead we get jacked up on viagra and reproduce mid-30s now. The result is more gender dysphoria and autism.
Elon already has autism, so it's already deep in his DNA.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14930689]Yes, it is because gender dysphoria is linked to autism, and autism levels are rising off the charts because humans are having children later in life rather than at a young age. Autism rates go way up the later in life you have kids. We are supposed to have children mid-20s, instead we get jacked up on viagra and reproduce mid-30s now. The result is more gender dysphoria and autism.
Elon already has autism, so it's already deep in his DNA.[/QUOTE]
Being more socially acceptable helps too. Searches for gay and trans porn is higher in red states because conservatives aren't any less 'gay', they're just repressed.
And before anyone gets their panties in a twist, I'm not using homosexuality here in a derogatory way. I can care less which consenting adults want to bang each other, just take it easy on the pda especially when there can be kids around.
Aside from the very low functioning end of the spectrum, autism is pretty much a made up disorder, much like ADHD, BPD and 'gender dysphoria'. They are create more jobs in the therapeutic, pharmaceutic and health industires.
To be fair though, I don't really have sympathy for Elon Musk here. Dude has 12 kids with 3 different women, runs multiple companies and spends his free time on twitter. When you're an absent father, its more likely one of your kids will become some kind of freak, fruit or tranny
[QUOTE=bison;14930697]Aside from the very low functioning end of the spectrum, autism is pretty much a made up disorder, much like ADHD, BPD and 'gender dysphoria'. They are create more jobs in the therapeutic, pharmaceutic and health industires.
To be fair though, I don't really have sympathy for Elon Musk here. Dude has 12 kids with 3 different women, runs multiple companies and spends his free time on twitter. When you're an absent father, its more likely one of your kids will become some kind of freak, fruit or tranny[/QUOTE]
Autism, ADHD, BPD are all very real things with gender dysphoria being linked. They are not a conspiracy to create jobs. Parents don't even bring their kids in to any of those professions without believing something is wrong to begin with.
And while it is true kids can "act out" to gain the attention of an absent parent, that is clearly not the case with Xavier who is 20 years old now. Research has shown that teens of children who are doing it as a trend of pressure always get out within 5 years time. Teens never stick with anything for that long. I guarantee you that he is on the spectrum like his father, and was legit born with a female brain.
[IMG]https://tacanow.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/press_release_2023_prevalence_c.jpg[/IMG]
Autism levels are rising rapidly, because we are having children later in life than ever before.
Up until the last 100 years or so we had been birthing mid-20s. It is not a subtle change we are going through.
On top of that medications like viagra are giving men who would have never had children before the ability to reproduce.
I blame the steroid using body builder freak crowd and professional sports for this shit.
I mean if you can artificially make an average man some masculine muscled out toxic freak show? Why can’t you make an average man a feminine weak toxic freak show?
It’s two sides to the same coin and the medical industry is playing both sides.
If you support dudes unnaturally using hormones to hit home runs or knock fools out then by default you are supporting the exact opposite. Dudes using hormones to become chicks.
Dudes wanting to play dress up and be chicks have been around forever.
Dudes wanting to be Hercules and be muscled out have been around forever.
The only difference now is you actually have a billion dollar industry willing to sell this dream with hormones and surgeries on a real “scientific” level.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14930705][IMG]https://tacanow.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/press_release_2023_prevalence_c.jpg[/IMG]
Autism levels are rising rapidly, because we are having children later in life than ever before.
Up until the last 100 years or so we had been birthing mid-20s. It is not a subtle change we are going through.
On top of that medications like viagra are giving men who would have never had children before the ability to reproduce.[/QUOTE]
You are only looking at it from first childbirth. The age gap between husband and wife was significantly different back in the 1800s. Men married later in life and they were cranking out kids til the woman was in her mid or late 30s and the father ,who was on average 5 years older than the wife, untill his late 30s or 40s. I don't recall a bunch of gay autists back in the 1800s. What has changed is less white children being born in the US. If you are really concerned about autism, you will want more white child births since whites are less likely to have autistic children than black, Hispanic or Asians.
This dichotomy of men wanting to either be more manly than they actually are or be more girly is an age old thing.
Seriously the only thing that makes modern times unique are drugs, steroids, surgeries, plastic, computers, yada yada yada.
Freak alphas and freak betas I think have always been the problem.
[QUOTE=Media Moderator;14930720]You are only looking at it from first childbirth. The age gap between husband and wife was significantly different back in the 1800s. Men married later in life and they were cranking out kids til the woman was in her mid or late 30s and the father ,who was on average 5 years older than the wife, untill his late 30s or 40s. [B]I don't recall a bunch of gay autists back in the 1800s[/B]. What has changed is less white children being born in the US. If you are really concerned about autism, you will want more white child births since whites are less likely to have autistic children than black, Hispanic or Asians.[/QUOTE]
:lol
[QUOTE=Media Moderator;14930720]You are only looking at it from first childbirth. The age gap between husband and wife was significantly different back in the 1800s. Men married later in life and they were cranking out kids til the woman was in her mid or late 30s and the father ,who was on average 5 years older than the wife, untill his late 30s or 40s. I don't recall a bunch of gay autists back in the 1800s. What has changed is less white children being born in the US. If you are really concerned about autism, you will want more white child births since whites are less likely to have autistic children than black, Hispanic or Asians.[/QUOTE]
First off I am sure autism existed on some level then, but second life expectancy in the 1800s was less than 40 years old, most men could not have children past that age simply because there was no hospital to save them from dying. Today we literally have men in their 50s jacked up on viagra impregnating women who are also older on average.
Also you aren't really doing math here. If a couple pumps out 8 babies and the first 6 are within their 20s, and the last two are in their 30s. That is still a much better percentage than a couple who only has two babies in their 30s. The population isn't being hit on the same level.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14930705][IMG]https://tacanow.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/press_release_2023_prevalence_c.jpg[/IMG]
Autism levels are rising rapidly, because we are having children later in life than ever before.
Up until the last 100 years or so we had been birthing mid-20s. It is not a subtle change we are going through.
On top of that medications like viagra are giving men who would have never had children before the ability to reproduce.[/QUOTE]
Men have been reproducing into middle age and even sometimes old age for all of time. It's the women that were always younger.
Viagra doesn't make your sperm any more potent or healthy... It literally just raises your blood pressure so you can have a boner longer.
:roll:
But the reason for autism isn't that, its today's awkward social structure where people are plugged into a phone or TV or computer all day and so they dont interact with each other physically as much at all anymore. Which makes them socially awkward in person and then they identify as autistic be cause of it.
Back in the day they'd just be considered nerds but there's a label for everything now.
[QUOTE=tpols;14930731]Men have been reproducing into middle age and even sometimes old age for all of time. It's the women that were always younger.
But the reason for autism isn't that, its today's awkward social structure where people are plugged into a phone or TV or computer all day and so they Don interact with each other physically as much at all anymore. Which makes them socially awkward in person and then they identify as autistic be cause of it.
Back in the day they'd just be considered nerds but there's a label for everything now.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/08/31/547320586/fatherhood-after-forty-its-now-a-lot-more-common-study-finds[/url]
And that was 7 years ago.
Autism is given at birth not by a cell phone, but I will acknowledge that a rise in diagnoses is probably a big part of that 317%. Although in the year 2000 we were still diagnosing at high levels.
[QUOTE=tpols;14930731]
Viagra doesn't make your sperm any more potent or healthy... It literally just raises your blood pressure so you can have a boner longer.
:roll:
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Viagra gives OLD MEN who otherwise wouldn't be having sex and reproducing, the ability to have sex. In previous times they would have exited the gene pool.
This is millions of men, and it is new to us as well. It can't be understated.
Medicine in general is saving lives and giving humans who would have otherwise died and exited the gene pool, the ability to reproduce. This simply did not exist before modern times.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14930705][IMG]https://tacanow.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/press_release_2023_prevalence_c.jpg[/IMG]
Autism levels are rising rapidly, because we are having children later in life than ever before.
Up until the last 100 years or so we had been birthing mid-20s. It is not a subtle change we are going through.
On top of that medications like viagra are giving men who would have never had children before the ability to reproduce.[/QUOTE]
better vote democrat
hope and change
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14930705][IMG]https://tacanow.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/press_release_2023_prevalence_c.jpg[/IMG]
[B]Autism levels are rising rapidly, because we are having children later in life than ever before.[/B]
Up until the last 100 years or so we had been birthing mid-20s. It is not a subtle change we are going through.
On top of that medications like viagra are giving men who would have never had children before the ability to reproduce.[/QUOTE]
Ironically, this also comes back to the woke mind virus.
To me, there are very definitely differences between boys and girls - but the public school system admires (and probably rewards) feminine straits - sitting still, keeping quiet, empathy, etc. For my boys, every (end of) paper towel roll, gift wrap paper roll, stick became a sword or gun. And they were raised/homeschooled (mostly) by a mother and older sister. They're just more active, energetic, boisterous, can't stay still compared to my daughter. IMO, it's a disservice to not give them space and freedom to just be boys.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14930654]It's really disgusting, a parent should support their child through thick and thin, no matter what. Elon would rather [B]label his son "dead"[/B] a blame the "woke mind virus" than support his own son. This is why LGBT have high suicide rates, people need a parent's love and approval. I would wager that Xavier will go on to take his own life, and we will see Elon blame the woke mind virus and not realize it was himself.[/QUOTE]
No fan of Elon but lets not be too judgemental here. It is quite easy to say what we would do when dealing with someone else's issues.
He did and he did not say that. It is a little less awful in the full quote.
[QUOTE]"I lost my son, essentially. They call it 'deadnaming' for a reason. The reason they call it ‘deadnaming’ is because your son is dead."[/QUOTE]