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I’m sure the 76ers are in on it but it sucks for people buying tickets.
Im not sure there is a realistic way to address it with a negative beyond award eligibility which impacts contract eligibility.
The teams are making so much money it’s not worth a lockout to try to work language into the cba to punish people who decide in advance to sit out 18-20 percent of the season. You just plan accordingly I guess.
Fans better learn to do the same.
He's constantly injured so makes sense
What's crazy is that there are still fans who think this guy is the best big man in the league...He's the Center version of James Harden.
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[QUOTE=RRR3;14948732]He's constantly injured so makes sense[/QUOTE]
Sure. People like him have existed forever. One of those Bill Walton 30 something game seasons as a Clipper was just a plan to have him play only home games and a couple others to see if he could make it through.
The issue is when people who don’t have such issues just kinda milk it and teams that are weak letting it happen.
I wonder what Jimmy Butler plays this year with Riley having called him out.
We done wit the 2020's!
Some teams played as many as 5 straight games back in the 60s.
[QUOTE=L.Kizzle;14948738]We done wit the 2020's!
Some teams played as many as 5 straight games back in the 60s.[/QUOTE]
A Wilt stretch:
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They can say what they want about his opponents the court was the same size. A lot of guys today wouldn’t make it up and down the court that many times at the pace they played.
Dude didn’t come out of a game the whole season other than when he was kicked out for a fight.
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14948741]A Wilt stretch:
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They can say what they want about his opponents the court was the same size. A lot of guys today wouldn’t make it up and down the court that many times at the pace they played.
Dude didn’t come out of a game the whole season other than when he was kicked out for a fight.[/QUOTE]
I know Wilt gets clowned on for his era and his playoff shortcomings, but that level of endurance isn't even human. Just looking at his game log from that season, on 12/08 he played [B]63[/B] minutes, then played 48 minutes the next 2 nights and 5 of the next 6, and did this while taking 40+ shots a game.
He will forever have a single MVP then
[QUOTE=rawimpact;14948749]He will forever have a single MVP then[/QUOTE]
He didn't even deserve that one.
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14948736]Sure. People like him have existed forever. One of those Bill Walton 30 something game seasons as a Clipper was just a plan to have him play only home games and a couple others to see if he could make it through.
The issue is when people who don’t have such issues just kinda milk it and teams that are weak letting it happen.
I wonder what Jimmy Butler plays this year with Riley having called him out.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't fully justify things but butler's namesake dad died last year. With the wild way he came up he had some issues not truly out of control and crazy but a little different.
Good news
Rest up for the playoffs and that one regular season game in Denver
[QUOTE=L.Kizzle;14948738]We done wit the 2020's!
Some teams played as many as 5 straight games back in the 60s.[/QUOTE]
Embiid would need surgery if he played 5 straight games. Everyone has different injury proneness and he is more close to Bill Walton than he is to Wilt unfortunately.
He'll duck Zhaq Edey.
His salary better be cut then. Imagine any of you wanted full pay but showed up for work 80% of the time?
[QUOTE=bullettooth;14948828]His salary better be cut then. Imagine any of you wanted full pay but showed up for work 80% of the time?[/QUOTE]
if the people I work for agreed to a contract saying I get the money no matter if I show up or not I would expect the money, no matter if I show up or not.
There’s a misconception that NBA contracts are required to be guaranteed. They aren’t. There is no language requiring you offer contracts that pay the same no matter how the player performs or is capable of performing. Teams just choose to do it because there is always another team ready to take your player if you won’t guarantee the contract.
Easy to hypothetically stand on principal till you realize that that hearing to it only means you’re gonna lose every single player who has options so winning is impossible.
It isn’t enough for you to be willing to lose. Every single owner has to agree not to compete. And that brings a number of much bigger problems that aren’t worth the trouble.
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14948833]if the people I work for agreed to a contract saying I get the money no matter if I show up or not I would expect the money, no matter if I show up or not.
There’s a misconception that NBA contracts are required to be guaranteed. They aren’t. There is no language requiring you offer contracts that pay the same no matter how the player performs or is capable of performing. Teams just choose to do it because there is always another team ready to take your player if you won’t guarantee the contract.
Easy to hypothetically stand on principal till you realize that that hearing to it only means you’re gonna lose every single player who has options so winning is impossible.
It isn’t enough for you to be willing to lose. Every single owner has to agree not to compete. And that brings a number of much bigger problems that aren’t worth the trouble.[/QUOTE]
you travel like every other week dawg
Well PG just blew out his knee so Joel is gonna have to man the f"ck up and play 82 now :oldlol:
[QUOTE=fourkicks44;14948841]Well PG just blew out his knee so Joel is gonna have to man the f"ck up and play 82 now :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
You just gave me Andrew Bynum flashbacks
[QUOTE=highwhey;14948836]you travel like every other week dawg[/QUOTE]
I did write that from my actual home, but I just returned from a couple weeks away due to power outages. I was in Orlando specifically for a Ramen place I like before going to Virginia Beach to wait it out.
but if I did still work, and my contract said I would be paid even if I were off bullshitting in San Diego I would insist I be paid.
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life sure comes at ya fast don't it?
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[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14948741]A Wilt stretch:
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They can say what they want about his opponents the court was the same size. A lot of guys today wouldn’t make it up and down the court that many times at the pace they played.
Dude didn’t come out of a game the whole season other than when he was kicked out for a fight.[/QUOTE]
That same season, the Warriors had 14 back to backs, 9 3-day stretches, 2 4-day stretches, and this 5 day stretch. But Wilt only averaged 48.5 minutes per game that year.
Embiid would be taking off at least 27 games with his new rule (assuming he doesn’t get hurt 😄).
Is this real life?
What has happened to the American athlete?
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14948993]Is this real life?
What has happened to the American athlete?[/QUOTE]
They started making insane amounts of money.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14948993]Is this real life?
What has happened to the American athlete?[/QUOTE]
You are talking about a dude whose favorite drink is a Shirley Temple.
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14949003]They started making insane amounts of money.[/QUOTE]
Yea.
as of right now, there are nine players in history with 300 million in career earnings. Seven of them are in the league right now. That list is gonna be a hell of a lot longer soon.
there are two players with an individual $300 million contract on the Celtics alone. Six players on the Celtics either already have or are scheduled to make more in one season than Kobe made in any season of his career despite being the highest paid player in the league for seven consecutive years ending in 2016. That’s how much the money has gone up and how quickly it happened.
An nba star is a half billion career earner now if he so much as stays healthy.
Wemby is gonna sign for 450 in 3 years. And he won’t even be the first to get 400. That’s gonna be SGA.
These people are all half a billion earners without counting shoe deals and off court dealings.
They all have too much money to dictate terms to.
I got to the point I would quit before inconveniencing myself a little before Covid and that’s exactly what I did. And I damn sure don’t have NBA money. I don’t have 80s nba money.
These people are too rich to respect a boss.
And I can’t blame them.
There comes a point im just not being told what to do anymore. And it’s well short of a half billion.
They’re richer than a lot of the individuals in ownership groups. These guys are signing individual contracts for more money than the previous era of owners sold their teams for.
And I don’t mean 50 years ago. The 76ers were purchased for 287 million the season before Embiid was drafted.
The 76ers cost less than Jaylen Brown.
Owners have very little leeway in that situation. Some real Batman/Joker shit
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It's hard to imagine how this guy has fans....
Maybe he will make it past the second round now......
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That choking piece of shit could sit out the whole regular season for all I care that's not going to prevent him from flopping like always come playoff time
So much for any chance of HCA. I can't imagine that's gonna be good for locker room morale.
its about time. im just looking for one actual try in the playoffs with healthy embiid. george likely will be rdy for start of yr not a worry
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14949028]Yea.
as of right now, there are nine players in history with 300 million in career earnings. Seven of them are in the league right now. That list is gonna be a hell of a lot longer soon.
there are two players with an individual $300 million contract on the Celtics alone. Six players on the Celtics either already have or are scheduled to make more in one season than Kobe made in any season of his career despite being the highest paid player in the league for seven consecutive years ending in 2016. That’s how much the money has gone up and how quickly it happened.
An nba star is a half billion career earner now if he so much as stays healthy.
Wemby is gonna sign for 450 in 3 years. And he won’t even be the first to get 400. That’s gonna be SGA.
These people are all half a billion earners without counting shoe deals and off court dealings.
They all have too much money to dictate terms to.
I got to the point I would quit before inconveniencing myself a little before Covid and that’s exactly what I did. And I damn sure don’t have NBA money. I don’t have 80s nba money.
These people are too rich to respect a boss.
And I can’t blame them.
There comes a point im just not being told what to do anymore. And it’s well short of a half billion.
They’re richer than a lot of the individuals in ownership groups. These guys are signing individual contracts for more money than the previous era of owners sold their teams for.
And I don’t mean 50 years ago. The 76ers were purchased for 287 million the season before Embiid was drafted.
The 76ers cost less than Jaylen Brown.
Owners have very little leeway in that situation. Some real Batman/Joker shit
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Pretty much.
I think this is also combined with guys who haven't gotten their maxes yet protecting themselves. There's a lot more incentive to keep yourself healthy when there's 300 million on the line vs 6 or whatever like it used to be.
[QUOTE=Manny98;14949045]Maybe he will make it past the second round now......
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That choking piece of shit could sit out the whole regular season for all I care that's not going to prevent him from flopping like always come playoff time[/QUOTE]
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They dont give these out in the 2nd round...you have to win the whole thing.......stay mad
Well I guess he's never going to get hurt then! [I]lol.[/I]
[QUOTE=bullettooth;14948828]His salary better be cut then. Imagine any of you wanted full pay but showed up for work 80% of the time?[/QUOTE]
You the average joe got to stop imagining what your job would say if he did what pro athletes did. Apples and oranges. Embiid brings a ton of value to the franchise where you are just a number. Replaceable. And you very well may be a hard worker, well liked by coworkers. But at the end of the day? You’ll get replaced in a second with no f*cks given if the replacement isn’t 1/2 as good as you were. You don’t replace Joel Embiids so easily.
Breaking news teams have been doing load management for some time. I’m not defending it and I think it’s wack. But we average joes got to stop using our lives in comparison with theirs.
Not true. This is just more evidence of Joel Embiid being a major bitch. He is incapable of being a #1 guy on a title team, he has negative intangibles. Not even zero, he's worth negative in that regard because of his ho ass
[QUOTE=GOBB;14949915]You the average joe got to stop imagining what your job would say if he did what pro athletes did. Apples and oranges. Embiid brings a ton of value to the franchise where you are just a number. Replaceable. And you very well may be a hard worker, well liked by coworkers. But at the end of the day? You’ll get replaced in a second with no f*cks given if the replacement isn’t 1/2 as good as you were. You don’t replace Joel Embiids so easily.
Breaking news teams have been doing load management for some time. I’m not defending it and I think it’s wack. But we average joes got to stop using our lives in comparison with theirs.[/QUOTE]
Embiid is turning 31 and has yet to take Philly to a conference finals :oldlol:
let than sink in for a second before you talk about value, I'd be fuming if my franchise player that I'm paying 50 odd million year has failed year in and year out to do anything of significance when it matters
[QUOTE=Carbine;14949918]Not true. This is just more evidence of Joel Embiid being a major bitch. He is incapable of being a #1 guy on a title team, he has negative intangibles. Not even zero, he's worth negative in that regard because of his ho ass[/QUOTE]
Spoken like someone who has no lats. I’m sure you have value to someone/some place. Just not here
[QUOTE=Manny98;14949921]Embiid is turning 31 and has yet to take Philly to a conference finals :oldlol:
let than sink in for a second before you talk about value, I'd be fuming if my franchise player that I'm paying 50 odd million year has failed year in and year out to do anything of significance when it matters[/QUOTE]
Sixers and Embiid are in the same page with back to back games.
Sixers just gave Embiid $193mil over 3 years
Sixer have been careful/cautious with Embiid health since he’s been a Sixer
You don’t do this for a player if he didn’t present value to your franchise. Guess who else may not play in back to backs? Paul George. Another player where “injury” has been attached to his career. A guy sixers spent big bucks on at that. You guys can call them names like juveniles in high school. Fact remains they have value to a franchise where you don’t at your place of employment.
And again I have to emphasize this because some of you are slow. I’m not for load management in the nba. Never have never will. But as a fan of the nba? I’ve come to accept guys are gonna be handled like fragile goods. Me getting bent out of shape over it changes nothing. At the end of the day unfortunately for embiid and George? They have to be closer to 100% come playoff time. For them to have a realistic chance getting past rd 2. We shall see how the years goes…
Some players may rest more than they need to but Embiid legitimately needs it, the dude is made of glass. You have to do everything you can to get him into the playoffs healthy if you're the Sixers.