Horford: 1-10
Tatum: 2-10
White: 3-11
16-54 as a team. They shot more threes than twos.
And they still lost to the Pacers who only took 23 threes. That’s less than half.
The game is broken.
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Horford: 1-10
Tatum: 2-10
White: 3-11
16-54 as a team. They shot more threes than twos.
And they still lost to the Pacers who only took 23 threes. That’s less than half.
The game is broken.
You just shoot 3’s for the regular season and let the law of averages generate enough wins to make the playoffs. 3’s are the most effortless way to play basketball, allowing the C’s to leave gas in the tank for the postseason and avoid injuries. More and more teams have adopted this philosophy and it’s only going to get worse.
thats crazy, almost as crazy as the fact that OP weighs 400 pounds.
Knicks beat the Magic by 23 (on the road) last Friday and only went 4-15 from 3. All their other shots were falling
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As I've said a few times recently, shooting under 35% on 40 attempts ain't efficient basketball. It's all fine when the shots are falling, but you're gonna have your 10/40 nights and it's just hideous to watch. And they just keep shooting because teams have set their entire strategies around generating 3's, and a generation of players who only knows 3's and layups, so there's no fallback for the off-nights.
Normally when a team loses a game you can look up their stats and find something bad.
[QUOTE=Phoenix;14966271]As I've said a few times recently, shooting under 35% on 40 attempts ain't efficient basketball. It's all fine when the shots are falling, but you're gonna have your 10/40 nights and it's just hideous to watch. And they just keep shooting because teams have set their entire strategies around generating 3's, and a generation of players who only knows 3's and layups, so there's no fallback for the off-nights.[/QUOTE]
That’s why they will be rudely scraped in playoffs, esp without Porzingis.
-Smak
At this point it's not surprising anymore since they were averaging 51 a game or something?
The NBA has clearly shifted to an offensive focus on three point shooting, but defense hasn't adapted yet. Every team, every game, they're leaving shooters wide open for three point shots time after time. Sometime an open shooter is a result of good offensive plays, but many times it's not. When are teams going to learn they have to change up their defense to match the new offense?
Pretty interesting tactic from OP, trying to mask the fact that he weighs 400 lbs.
[QUOTE=MrFonzworth;14966299]Pretty interesting tactic from OP, trying to mask the fact that he weighs 400 lbs.[/QUOTE]
:roll::roll:
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14966274]Normally when a team loses a game you can look up their stats and find something bad.[/QUOTE]
no shit
historically when the 3-ball isn't working you find an alternative. That's not evident in todays game... it is too one-dimensional and I think that is what OP was suggesting
[QUOTE=rawimpact;14966331]no shit
historically when the 3-ball isn't working you find an alternative. That's not evident in todays game... it is too one-dimensional and I think that is what OP was suggesting[/QUOTE]
And I am pointing out how silly this is. The Celtics are playing their worst ball in two seasons and still one of the best teams in the NBA. The last two weeks have been rough but they're still likely to win 60 and won a Championship. But they need to change everything up because they are having their first losing streak in years? OP is just hoping that the Celtics are weak enough that the knicks have a chance.
[QUOTE=rawimpact;14966331]no shit
historically when the 3-ball isn't working you find an alternative. That's not evident in todays game... it is too one-dimensional and I think that is what OP was suggesting[/QUOTE]
Well, here-in lies the issue. If you fall behind due to your 3ball not falling, you kind of need 3’s to get back in the game. Most great comebacks in basketball history have come due to getting out from long range. Plus, shooter’s mentality. If I’m 1/8 shooting, that just means I’m going 5 or 6 on my next 8.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14966343]And I am pointing out how silly this is. The Celtics are playing their worst ball in two seasons and still one of the best teams in the NBA. The last two weeks have been rough but they're still likely to win 60 and won a Championship. But they need to change everything up because they are having their first losing streak in years? OP is just hoping that the Celtics are weak enough that the knicks have a chance.[/QUOTE]
Yikes. I’m simply pointing out how terrible the game has become when you have teams continuously chuck up 3-pointers despite them missing so many. At no point in the game did the coaching staff change the game plan to stop shooting 3’s. Like, at what point do teams ask themselves “Okay, this shit ain’t working tonight”?
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14966372]Yikes. I’m simply pointing out how terrible the game has become when you have teams continuously chuck up 3-pointers despite them missing so many. At no point in the game did the coaching staff change the game plan to stop shooting 3’s. Like, at what point do teams ask themselves “Okay, this shit ain’t working tonight”?[/QUOTE]
There-in lies the issue, modern teams aren't built with contingencies. Like the offenses now are centered around various ways to take the 3. And most of these guys are now hard-coded to shoot them regardless. That's evident when you see a fastbreak and guys run to the 3point line instead of head towards the basket. We've seen teams trade 3/4/5 possessions in a row of taking them without a single make, at no point does going inside for a two enter the equation.
The reality, there are few teams today that shoots the 3 'that well' to be taking 40 of them. The Warriors dynasty ended 5 years ago, but the league just took the blueprint and ran with it, I would argue needlessly, because no-one features three shooters with the combined prowess of Steph/Klay/KD. Hell no team has shooters as potent as Steph and Klay by themselves.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14966372]Yikes. I’m simply pointing out how terrible the game has become when you have teams continuously chuck up 3-pointers despite them missing so many. At no point in the game did the coaching staff change the game plan to stop shooting 3’s. Like, at what point do teams ask themselves “Okay, this shit ain’t working tonight”?[/QUOTE]
And the Celtics are stubbornly sticking to the style that won them 64 games and a Championship. Acting like the Celtics' approach isn't consistently highly successful is stupid. You want to complain it's boring? Whatever, you like what you like. You want to argue that it doesn't work? That's an argument with reality.
The warriors should definitely get the blame for making threes a very common trend in the games these days.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14966391]And the Celtics are stubbornly sticking to the style that won them 64 games and a Championship. Acting like the Celtics' approach isn't consistently highly successful is stupid. You want to complain it's boring? Whatever, you like what you like. You want to argue that it doesn't work? That's an argument with reality.[/QUOTE]
I’m only talking about an observation based on one game, not the season as a whole as you are referring to. This isn’t criticizing the success of the Celtics because they do have players that can make the three. It’s a criticism on how ugly the game can be when you have teams that all they do is chuck up threes, and in this instance, they just kept chucking despite missing so many. And it actually led to them losing the game even when the opposing team shot less than half of those 3’s. So it’s an observation about how the game has changed and teams are more reliant on the three than ever before. I find it troubling that at no point did Boston decide that it was better for them on an off night to take it to hole instead.
Even if the three is the key to their success, the game is ugly now because of it.
Ainge and Stevens intentionally assembled a roster full of guys that can hit threes. They didn't do that to not shoot them. A shooter isn't going to stop shooting because his shots aren't falling in the first quarter. So why would a team fill of shooters act that way? The Celtics concern themselves with the type of threes they are shooting, if they are good looks created off of good ball movement orare the shots well-contested? That's the thinking that judges their offense, not the simplistic approach of "are we on today?" If the shots they take are good looks the offense will almost always be effective.
Whether or not you find it entertaining is a different issue, and something they aren't going to concern themselves with. If the NBA feels like they have an entertainment quality problem then they will have to find the right rule changes to make the Celtics and other teams play a different way just like how they made rule changes that led to the 3 spam.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14966405]Ainge and Stevens intentionally assembled a roster full of guys that can hit threes. They didn't do that to not shoot them. A shooter isn't going to stop shooting because his shots aren't falling in the first quarter. So why would a team fill of shooters act that way? The Celtics concern themselves with the type of threes they are shooting, if they are good looks created off of good ball movement orare the shots well-contested? That's the thinking that judges their offense, not the simplistic approach of "are we on today?" If the shots they take are good looks the offense will almost always be effective.
Whether or not you find it entertaining is a different issue, and something they aren't going to concern themselves with. If the NBA feels like they have an entertainment quality problem then they will have to find the right rule changes to make the Celtics and other teams play a different way just like how they made rule changes that led to the 3 spam.[/QUOTE]
This sounds a lot like peak Harden and Houston. Obviously Celtics are favorites, but losing games just because you have no plan B, that is what happened with those Houston teams. Of course with playoffs being all 7 game series, the odds probably even out.
[QUOTE=90sgoat;14966435]This sounds a lot like peak Harden and Houston. Obviously Celtics are favorites, but losing games just because you have no plan B, that is what happened with those Houston teams. Of course with playoffs being all 7 game series, the odds probably even out.[/QUOTE]
No one on the Celtics plays anything at all like Harden. And it's not like they can't generate 2s, they just prioritize the three because it's more efficient. Something most of the league does. They just do it better.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14966252]Horford: 1-10
Tatum: 2-10
White: 3-11
16-54 as a team. They shot more threes than twos.
And they still lost to the Pacers who only took 23 threes. That’s less than half.
The game is broken.[/QUOTE]
Wow.. they lost a team that shot less than half of their 3s. Boston is so lame.