How screwed is Tesla?

Aside from the political standpoint, BYD just announced that their new charging stations can recharge a battery in 1/3rd of the time that a Tesla staion can.

And then the new Mercedes CLA can go 500 miles on a full battery (where the Model-3 can only go 350) and it costs around the same price.

[url]https://autos.yahoo.com/mercedes-takes-biggest-swing-yet-094531094.html[/url]

The Mercedes CLA also just has a much better aesthetic and simply looks cooler than any Tesla which badly need a revamp and haven't changed much since their inception.

And then, yeah, the politics. Europe has stopped buying them, and China sales have fallen off. Their main demographic was left leaning eco-minded people, good-ole-boys aren't buying Teslas. They are being vandalized left and right, and dealerships can't even give them away right now.

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[quote]Musk predicts that Optimus robots could generate over $10 trillion in revenue long-term, potentially becoming the most valuable part of Tesla's business.[/quote]

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Musk makes lots of predictions and promises that fail. He promised to have the US getting around in self-driving cars by now, but Tesla has fallen behind in that race and Waymo (owned by Google) is leading the country in self driving vehicles.

He also promised to have humans on Mars by now, but we all know that will never happen.

Twitter (X) was supposed to be the "Everything App". A place where you can do just about anything online you can imagine. Pay bills, make sports bets, buy stocks, make purchases at stores, etc. It will never be that.

So I wouldn't hold my breath on Tesla robots taking over, odds are it is another broken promise that will end up losing to another company who is more focused.

Not as screwed as your mom

I personally feel like he will deliver on Affordable Robots & Affordable Housing... He's not going to give a $hit about competition in the EV industry... but who knows what kinds of new models he may present in the future.

Elon is living in the future... He's 5 chess moves ahead of the game.... The EV industry was just a stepping stone to bigger and better things... again, like robots & cheap housing.

[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;14987075]I personally feel like he will deliver on Affordable Robots & Affordable Housing... He's not going to give a $hit about competition in the EV industry... but who knows what kinds of new models he may present in the future.

Elon is living in the future... He's 5 chess moves ahead of the game.... The EV industry was just a stepping stone to bigger and better things... again, like robots & cheap housing.[/QUOTE]

Bigger and better things for humanity? You just made a thread labeling him the false prophet. Wouldn't that mean he is going to usher in hell on Earth? This is similar to you labeling Trump the anti-Christ but at the same time you side with him on everything he is doing. Very strange.

These car companies would do better if they would go to a subscription model.

Automate the stations to swap batteries vs charge.

They can charge at a more economical time but also have a stock ready. This would completely eliminate the major issues.

It looks like the Tesla "affordable tiny homes" are all fabricated rumors. Tesla is not selling or making tiny homes from what I can see.

Op is super insecure and petty :lol :roll:

[QUOTE=warriorfan;14987089]Op is super insecure and petty :lol :roll:[/QUOTE]
Another day spent lighting up the ol' crack rock :ohwell:

[url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14513255/Ross-Gerber-ultimatum-Elon-Musk-Tesla-CEO.html[/url]

[QUOTE]A major Tesla investor made the stunning decision to call on Elon Musk to step down as head of the company as its stock prices plunge amid a nationwide boycott.

Ross Gerber went as far as to say that Musk has 'destroyed' the electric vehicle maker's reputation due to his work as the head of President Donald Trump's Department of Government Efficiency.

'I think Tesla needs a new CEO and I decided today I was going to start saying it, and so this is the first show that I'm saying it on,' Gerber told host Darren McCaffrey on Sky's Business Live on Tuesday.

'It's time for somebody to run Tesla,' he continued, arguing that Musk has stretched himself too thin across his work at DOGE and at X.

'There are too many important things Tesla's doing, so either Elon should come back to Tesla and be the CEO of Tesla and give up his other jobs, or he should focus on the government and keep doing what he is doing, but find a suitable CEO of Tesla.'

Gerber went on to say Tesla is 'absolutely' in crisis, as Business Insider reports that its shares plummeted 53 percent since reaching a record high in December, and its market value plunged by more than $800 billion during the same time period.

'The company's reputation has just been destroyed by Elon Musk,' he argued. 'Sales are plummeting, so yeah, it's a crisis.

'You literally can't sell the best product in the marketplace because the CEO is so divisive.' [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RRR3;14987098]Another day spent lighting up the ol' crack rock :ohwell:[/QUOTE]

Another day being……you.


Yikes.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;14987111]Another day being……you.


Yikes.[/QUOTE]
Your life consists of talking to yourself on alts on a dying forum

[QUOTE=RRR3;14987114]Your life consists of talking to yourself on alts on a dying forum[/QUOTE]

:roll:

[QUOTE=RRR3;14987114]Your life consists of talking to yourself on alts on a dying forum[/QUOTE]

More projection from your mom’s basement :lol

I'm down 30% on my stocks so that sucks and I kept buying more all the way down.

I still think they're going to recover when they launch their robots or their self driving cars, but yeah, it doesn't look great right now. Elon needs to spend some more time soon on the business if they are to catch up.

[QUOTE=RRR3;14987114]Your life consists of talking to yourself on alts on a dying forum[/QUOTE]

:roll:

[QUOTE=RRR3;14987114]Your life consists of talking to yourself on alts on a dying forum[/QUOTE]

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Tesla is obviously doing great, they have Elon as CEO and he's close with Trump working with the government so he can enrich himself, or at least that's what Bill Gates was telling us just a few months ago.

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14987077]Bigger and better things for humanity? You just made a thread labeling him the false prophet. Wouldn't that mean he is going to usher in hell on Earth? This is similar to you labeling Trump the anti-Christ but at the same time you side with him on everything he is doing. Very strange.[/QUOTE]


You agreed with Trump on the vaccine... did you not? Trump got booed by his own MAGA crowd on that issue. I guess that makes you a Trump supporter.

I've called Trump a socialist many many times on this forum... I don't side with him on everything... and when I say bigger & better, I'm talking about technological advancements... so just because technology is improving does not mean it's good for humanity. Hell, I remember a world without the internet, those were better times.

Either way the false prophet, The Antichrist or any wolf in sheep's clothing is going to use means of deception and have something to offer, or be agreeable on many issues.

If I agree with Hitler that 2+2 = 4 and that the sky is blue... does that make me a Nazi? This is where the Liberal Left have lost touch with reality... it's like you are wanting to promote a woke retarded agenda that has no common sense just to oppose Trump. Sorry, but unfortunately I'm going to agree with the antichrist & false prophet on a few things because I can't go against common sense.

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[QUOTE=rawimpact;14987183]Imagine being so politically motivated, one hopes an American manufacturer who has made efforts to keep plants in states fails to a Chinese company...

And since you're so hellbent on showcasing Elon's failure, lets acknowledge what he has done just this week. First he successfully recovers the stranded astronauts; Charles Camarda (ex-NASA astronaut) touts him saving the entire space program. Then his X/Twitter evaluation recovers the 44B....

While you have what exactly?[/QUOTE]

Should I bump all the "Disney is done" threads in here? How much Bud Light is in your fridge?

I don't think Tesla will ever disappear, it's here for good (just like Disney and Bud Light) but the current happenings are definitely thread worthy. And my OP is more in relation to EV competition in general and advancements made from Mercedes and BYD than it is to say "BOOOO ELON".

Dooms, in relation to the Bible the "wolf in sheep's clothing" is someone who is claiming to be a man of Jesus but is secretly luring everyone to Satan. It's nothing to do with someone who is getting a following through the betterment of society.

Lying about being Christian is what makes one a "false prophet".

Last I looked Elon was atheist, although now that he has decided to go hard right, wouldn't surprise me if he claimed to be Christian.

So, this just happened


[url]https://www.newsweek.com/tesla-recalls-over-46000-cybertrucks-2047698[/url]

Tesla Recalls Over 46,000 Cybertrucks

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14987186]Should I bump all the "Disney is done" threads in here? How much Bud Light is in your fridge?

I don't think Tesla will ever disappear, it's here for good (just like Disney and Bud Light) but the current happenings are definitely thread worthy. And my OP is more in relation to EV competition in general and advancements made from Mercedes and BYD than it is to say "BOOOO ELON".[/QUOTE]

Both Disney and Budweiser outrage was based on politically motivated decisions the companies made. What exactly has Tesla done that was based on politics?

[QUOTE=rawimpact;14987191]Both Disney and Budweiser outrage was based on politically motivated decisions the companies made. What exactly has Tesla done that was based on politics?[/QUOTE]

Huh? The owner and CEO is right wing oligarch Elon Musk.

Elon has had more political influence than Disney and Bud Light added together and multiplied by 1000.

Disney's stock price hasn't done $hit for 10 years... those investors should be way more pissed than any Tesla investor.

As far as stock goes? Disney has probably peaked. But Tesla is currently trading at a P/E ratio of 113. Meaning if you purchased the entire company, it would take 113 years to make your money back at it's current revenue. And it's revenue is shrinking rapidly right now.

Nvidia who is supposed to rule the future of the AI industry only has a P/E of 40.

For a regular company that maintains constant profits, a P/E of 20 is ideal. For a growth stock with a bright future? A P/E of 30 or 40 is okay. But a P/E of 113 who's profits are trending down? unsustainable.

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14987208]Huh? The owner and CEO is right wing oligarch Elon Musk.

Elon has had more political influence than Disney and Bud Light added together and multiplied by 1000.[/QUOTE]

Stop dancing around the question. What has Tesla, not Elon, Tesla done that was politically motivated? Because the two companies you cited as examples of contradiction made [U]company decisions[/U] fueled by politics.

[video=youtube;wR6i0mHfb2Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR6i0mHfb2Y[/video]

[QUOTE=rawimpact;14987214]Stop dancing around the question. What has Tesla, not Elon, Tesla done that was politically motivated? Because the two companies you cited as examples of contradiction made [U]company decisions[/U] fueled by politics.[/QUOTE]

Elon IS Tesla. Who regularly spews hatred toward the left every single day on Twitter. I am sure right now he is typing up some post trying to convince you that half the country suffers a mind virus. He is no victim here.

Bud Light? just having a trans person in a commercial isn't even political. They didn't even take a shot at the right. Caitlyn Jenner is right leaning. And on top of that the company as a whole didn't create the ad. It was one woman in the marketing department.

Disney is the same story. Like having a black lead in a movie is political? Cry me a river.

Damn. Bill Gates took it up the ass extra hard last night.

:roll:

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14987218]Elon IS Tesla. Who regularly spews hatred toward the left every single day on Twitter. I am sure right now he is typing up some post trying to convince you that half the country suffers a mind virus. He is no victim here.[/QUOTE]

let me use your logic and way of thinking...

So do You support Terrorist Attacks on Tesla????? You support Terrorism???

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[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;14987226]let me use your logic and way of thinking...

So do You support Terrorist Attacks on Tesla????? You support Terrorism???

[video=youtube;pLXSotkY1oU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLXSotkY1oU[/video][/QUOTE]

I thought you said that YOU were going to use my logic? :oldlol:

Asking me a question is not using anyone's logic. It's just asking a question.

No I do not support burning vehicles. But I would be worried about the company as a whole because of it.

And on that note, Tesla insures it's own vehicles. They do not use an insurance company. So all those vehicles that are vandalized? Tesla themselves has to pay for it.

"Terrorism" being used loosely by Trump btw. It's the destruction of property. Just like Kid Rock shooting up a bunch of Bud Light.

Usually terrorism has to involve actual violence against a human.

Perhaps this is all Elon's 5D chess move to get the right on board with buying EVs to save the planet from global warming.

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14987230]"Terrorism" being used loosely by Trump btw. It's the destruction of property. Just like Kid Rock shooting up a bunch of Bud Light.

Usually terrorism has to involve actual violence against a human.[/QUOTE]


If MAGA vandalized Disney for being woke... it would be WWIII for Leftists... and would absolutely be called Alt Right Domestic Terrorism... not destruction of property.

but leftists want to call it an "act of violence" if we don't use correct pronouns and misgender somebody

[video=youtube_share;iD72t_vbySw]https://youtu.be/RESsY2y8G2s?si=iD72t_vbySw[/video]

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14987230]It's the destruction of property.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14987231]Perhaps this is all Elon's 5D chess move to get the right on board with buying EVs to save the planet from global warming.[/QUOTE]


How's that climate change fight going for Democrats? I think that was the top issue for every Democrat in 2020... do y'all even care about that issue anymore?

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There are people throwing molotov cocktails at dealerships, people who tried to plant explosives, shot at teslas because of political association. That is textbook terrorism.

Shooter fires at Tesla dealership in Oregon, the location's second such incident this month
[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/03/14/tesla-dealership-shot-at-oregon/82407358007/[/url]

Woman arrested after explosives discovered at Tesla dealership
[url]https://www.foxnews.com/us/woman-arrested-after-explosives-discovered-tesla-dealership[/url]