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Move over 99 Knicks and 07 Cavs.
This is basketball now. The 2013 grizzlies 2016 hawks 2016 raptors making the Finals. This is what happens when a LeBron is not in the league to stop them. Terrible teams like this actually make it to the Finals just to get slaughtered Nets vs Lakers (02) style
[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;15010724]Move over 99 Knicks and 07 Cavs[/QUOTE]
Wrong like usual.
[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;15005988]I expect the NBA to do anything possible to keep the pacers out of the NBA Finals for ratings. I have Knicks/Refs by Murder. Nothing will stop Silver from getting NYC in the Finals when they are this close......Nothing!
Poor Poor pistons and pacers smh[/QUOTE]
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This team destroys the Heat team of 2 years ago.
this team would beat gianna in 21
[QUOTE=Meticode;15010725]Wrong like usual.
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I got okc by human euthanasia. 4-0
Listen here. If the pacers win this series im leaving the site....thats it for me. i just flat out dont know shit about basketball. [SIZE=1]Barring injuries [/SIZE]
There is no way this sorry ass team without an alpha....beats this juggernaunt OKC team. There is no FU[I]C[/I]KING WAY ON EARTH.
Is OP stupid or on drugs?
The 2020 Heat were by far the worst finals team in the modern era.
Yeah both Heat teams as finalists were worse.
Nah... theyres been worse.
Don't compare playoff Chokers like the craptors and Hawks to Indiana. How you gonna get blown out and swept as a 1 seed?
Haliburton has been clutch, siakam very good, and the rest of the team is a flamethrower from deep with hard nosed defense and track meet hustle. OKC should handle them fine because of HCA and their all time great defense, but they've put on a show so far and knocked out some big dogs.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15010742]Is OP stupid or on drugs?[/QUOTE]
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Idk about the worst, but they are in the convo.
We have had a lot of underwhelming teams make the Finals out of the East since about 1999.
Mid-late 70's saw a lot of bad teams make the Finals.
We probably won't see a team as bad as the '76 Suns in the Finals.
Those last 2 heat teams that made the finals were utter shit.. pacers are much better than that.
OP is a known dumb fu*k
[QUOTE=coin24;15010824]Those last 2 heat teams that made the finals were utter shit.. pacers are much better than that.
OP is a known dumb fu*k[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=coin24;15010824]Those last 2 heat teams that made the finals were utter shit.. pacers are much better than that.
OP is a known dumb fu*k[/QUOTE]
They are pretty much on the same level. The 2020 Heat actually had a higher SRS than the current Pacers.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15010828]They are pretty much on the same level. The 2020 Heat actually had a higher SRS than the current Pacers.[/QUOTE]
Without Bam they were trash. The Heat were pitiful in both of their Finals appearances.
Funny how many of the all time weakest teams to make the finals have been in the east in recent years yet embiid can't even make the ECF.
:lol
Nobody counts the ****ing bubble....stop bringing up the 2020 heat...and im a lebron fan! nobody counts or takes anything about the bubble serious.
The 2023 heat would destroy this pacers team. cut it out
[QUOTE=tontoz;15010848]Funny how many of the all time weakest teams to make the finals have been in the east in recent years yet embiid can't even make the ECF.
:lol[/QUOTE]
You are a wizards fan...
If the 2023 Heat were so good how did Jokic dispatch them so easily?
[QUOTE=tpols;15010862]If the 2023 Heat were so good how did Jokic dispatch them so easily?[/QUOTE]
The lights were too bright for playoff jimmy. He wasn't the same player in the Finals or maybe he got hurt in the conference finals and played through it.
Either way he turned back into regular season jimmy.
[QUOTE=tpols;15010862]If the 2023 Heat were so good how did Jokic dispatch them so easily?[/QUOTE]
That's a good question
Embiid vs the Heat: 20/10/2 on 53%TS
Jokic vs the Heat: 30/14/7 on 67%TS
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15010823]Idk about the worst, but they are in the convo.
We have had a lot of underwhelming teams make the Finals out of the East since about 1999.
Mid-late 70's saw a lot of bad teams make the Finals.
We probably won't see a team as bad as the '76 Suns in the Finals.[/QUOTE]
Were the '76 Suns that bad? I started following the league in 1999, and for me the worst team in the finals have been the Nets in 2002 and the Cavs in 2007. Teams that were swept and didn't have even the slightest of chances to win. Before that I don't know whether there have been worse teams or not. The 1981 Rockets, maybe?
This is the new NBA now. There's good and bad.
The good thing is that more teams and more markets have a shot to make the finals now and win a championship. All you need is depth, shooting and maybe one or two standout players. They don't even need to be all time great. It's really all about the coaching and the system now. The NBA has finally achieved "parity" after 45 years.
The bad thing is that you're not really sure if you're witnessing greatness anymore. The winning team used to be the team that executed the best. Sure executing still plays a factor, but now since almost every team has figured out how to get open 3's, it really just boils down to which team is shooting better.
76-77 Blazers easily the worst NBA finals team to win it all. 80 Rockets worst team ever to just reach the finals. I don’t know about the 50-60’s.
[QUOTE=GOBB;15010957]76-77 Blazers easily the worst NBA finals team to win it all. 80 Rockets worst team ever to just reach the finals. I don’t know about the 50-60’s.[/QUOTE]
They're in the lower tier for sure, but "easily" the worst Finals team ever, a squad with peak Bill Walton that swept Kareem's Lakers and beat Dr. J's Sixers? Absolutely ridiculous statement.
Explain how they're easily worse than the '99 Knicks, '02/'03 Nets, '07 Cavs, or even the Suns team that made the Finals the year before them.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15010958]They're in the lower tier for sure, but "easily" the worst Finals team ever, a squad with peak Bill Walton that swept Kareem's Lakers and beat Dr. J's Sixers? Absolutely ridiculous statement.
Explain how they're easily worse than the '99 Knicks, '02/'03 Nets, '07 Cavs, or even the Suns team that made the Finals the year before them.[/QUOTE]
You’re comparing apples to oranges.
I listed the worst team to ever win an NBA finals.
I listed the worst team to ever reach the finals
[QUOTE=GOBB;15010957]76-77 Blazers easily the worst NBA finals team to win it all. 80 Rockets worst team ever to just reach the finals. I don’t know about the 50-60’s.[/QUOTE]
'77 Blazers were easily the best team to win a title from '74-'79. I don't know how you come to the conclusion that a team who had the #1 SRS in the league, a top 5 offense & defense, swept a peak Kareem, & beat a stacked Sixers team were the worst ever to win it all. Not to mention they started the season 50-10 the next season before Walton got hurt. They were on their way to repeat with ease before the Walton injury.
And the '80 Rockets didn't make the Finals. You are referring to '81.
In the modern era I always thought the '06 Heat team was pretty bad compared to other championship teams.
Then you have teams like the '75 Warriors, '78 Bullets, & '79 Sonics who were pretty weak champs.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15010828][B]They are pretty much on the same level.[/B] The 2020 Heat actually had a higher SRS than the current Pacers.[/QUOTE]
Not a chance. The 2025 Pacers beat the 2020 Heat in 4 or 5 games at the most, and it's not even competitive.
[QUOTE=Full Court;15010978]Not a chance. The 2025 Pacers beat the 2020 Heat in 4 or 5 games at the most, and it's not even competitive.[/QUOTE]
It's debatable, but my money will probably be on Miami. They knocked off a dominant Bucks team that won a title the very next season, & a Celtics team in the ECF that were better than the current Knicks. When you compare the Heat & Pacers, there aren't any major differences that set them apart. They are both good teams, not dominant, who overachieved.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15010977]'77 Blazers were easily the best team to win a title from '74-'79. I don't know how you come to the conclusion that a team who had the #1 SRS in the league, a top 5 offense & defense, swept a peak Kareem, & beat a stacked Sixers team were the worst ever to win it all. Not to mention they started the season 50-10 the next season before Walton got hurt. They were on their way to repeat with ease before the Walton injury.
[B]And the '80 Rockets didn't make the Finals. You are referring to '81.[/B]
In the modern era I always thought the '06 Heat team was pretty bad compared to other championship teams.
Then you have teams like the '75 Warriors, '78 Bullets, & '79 Sonics who were pretty weak champs.[/QUOTE]
Clearly
[QUOTE=GOBB;15010957]76-77 Blazers easily the worst NBA finals team to win it all. 80 Rockets worst team ever to just reach the finals. I don’t know about the 50-60’s.[/QUOTE]
Hawks made the finals with a losing record one year...Bullets were a bad team as well. Jason Kidd's Nets were also godawful
57'Hawks
59'Lakers
71 Bullets
80' Rockets
99' Knicks
02' Nets
03' Nets
07' Cavs
20' Heat
25' Pacers
[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;15010732]I got okc by human euthanasia. 4-0
Listen here. If the pacers win this series im leaving the site....thats it for me. i just flat out dont know shit about basketball. [SIZE=1]Barring injuries [/SIZE]
There is no way this sorry ass team without an alpha....beats this juggernaunt OKC team. There is no FU[I]C[/I]KING WAY ON EARTH.[/QUOTE]
Finally I Have something to root for.
There's been a bunch of EC teams that are far worse IMO. Pacers are decent overall.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15010865]That's a good question
Embiid vs the Heat: 20/10/2 on 53%TS
Jokic vs the Heat: 30/14/7 on 67%TS[/QUOTE]
Now list every injury Joel had vs the heat that year....
Yes every.....That means multiple....
The best team the 02 and 03 Nets had to go through in their run to the Finals was a Rasheed Less Pistons that barely won 50 games in a very weak East.
[QUOTE=tpols;15010808]Nah... theyres been worse.
Don't compare playoff Chokers like the craptors and Hawks to Indiana. How you gonna get blown out and swept as a 1 seed?
Haliburton has been clutch, siakam very good, and the rest of the team is a flamethrower from deep with hard nosed defense and track meet hustle. OKC should handle them fine because of HCA and their all time great defense, but they've put on a show so far and knocked out some big dogs.[/QUOTE]
:applause:
They also started out poorly but are 50-16 including playoffs since the New Year. Really good team.
OKC is a great team and will probably win but this isn’t a slouch. They won’t fold and OKC better come correct.
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15011032]:applause:
They also started out poorly but are 50-16 including playoffs since the New Year. Really good team.
OKC is a great team and will probably win but this isn’t a slouch. They won’t fold and OKC better come correct.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. This has the making of being a really good finals series. Hopefully it delivers.
[QUOTE=Reggie43;15011024]The best team the 02 and 03 Nets had to go through in their run to the Finals was a Rasheed Less Pistons that barely won 50 games in a very weak East.[/QUOTE]
I forgot about the Nets. Sheesh that team was underwhelming lol
[QUOTE=John8204;15010996]Hawks made the finals with a losing record one year...Bullets were a bad team as well. Jason Kidd's Nets were also godawful
57'Hawks
59'Lakers
71 Bullets
80' Rockets
99' Knicks
02' Nets
03' Nets
07' Cavs
20' Heat
25' Pacers[/QUOTE]
71 Bullets had like 4 Hall of Famers I think. Unseld, Monroe and Gus Johnson and I feel like someone else was in this team I'm forgetting.
[QUOTE=L.Kizzle;15011098]71 Bullets had like 4 Hall of Famers I think. Unseld, Monroe and Gus Johnson and I feel like someone else was in this team I'm forgetting.[/QUOTE]
They were also 42-40, and got swept and creamed by KAJ and Oscar
January 1st onward, the Pacers played at a 58 win pace.